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Game 28 - vs Golden State

For the first time this year, the Warriors visit Sacramento. And for the first time this year, the Kings are going to try to take a win from GSW Hoops. (Not to imply they haven't tried to win the last two matches...oh, who am I kidding?)

STARTERS

SACRAMENTO
PG - Shaun Livingston 1, Mike Bibby 0. (Actually, it's probably like Mike Bibby 15, Shaun Livingston 1, but I live in the moment.)
SG - That's two below-average games against the Clippers this season. Which is strange, because at LAC was his 20-point breakout game last season.
SF - Ron Artest belongs in a Clippers uniform, I'm telling you. Damn you Geoff Petrie.
PF - Kenny Thomas actually had a decent game. But Shareef Abdur-Rahim still had a superior outing.
C  - Brad Miller is playing well... on offense.

GOLDEN STATE
PG - Baron Davis has been excellent this year. And the Warriors are .500. Keep dreamin', though, Oakland.
SG - Jason Richardson doesn't seem to be the best fit in Nellie's offense. That's a bit unexpected.
SF - Matt Barnes is a starting forward in the NBA. Discuss.
PF - Mickael Pietrus had 26 pts, 7 rebs, and 4 stls last night against Boston. Gulp.
C  - Andris Biedrins > Darko Milicic. I'll keep saying it until someone agrees.


THE LINE:
It's even. I think the Kings can pull this one out, just because we all think they can't. When in doubt... pick the opposite of what you think you should.

INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT NOTE:
The Clippers leave for a road trip on Monday. They'd like to not have Corey Maggette at that point, as it is a fairly important trip. Think they might concede a concession Geoff Petrie wants this weekend? Hmm?

PREGAME HAIKU
Golden State? Oh god.
They'll just run us off the court.
Hope is for naives.

(Yay, I finally resorted to inventing a word!)

Enjoy the game, please.

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Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
Who is going to guard Davis tonight? It was pretty obvious last time that he was way too much for Bibby. When you have to have your small forward defend the opposing point guard, it says a lot about the team defense. Or at least Mr. Bibbilicious defense. Funny, you don't hear Jerry and Grant mentioning this facet of the game.

by Observer on Dec 30, 2006 9:20 AM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
What do you think Petrie wants in addition to Maggette?  Looking at the rosters, I don't really see anything I think the Clippers would do.  They won't give up a first round pick (not in THIS draft).  They won't give up Ross, who MDSr thinks could be Bruce Bowen.  So if it's not Maggette for Artest straight up, I don't think it's happening.
The Clippers - the Best NBA Team in LA!

by Steve Perrin on Dec 30, 2006 10:17 AM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
I think Petrie might be holding out for a protected 1st round pick or maybe a swap option of first rounders this year.  If things deteriorate with Artest, he might settle for a second round pick or a protected pick next year.  Personally, I believe he should and probably is looking at blowing up the roster.  Muss has probably seen enough to make a decision on who he wants around the next few years.  I say move Bibby, Artest, and Miller plus anyone else that might have value to another team like Shareef with his low post game.  You build around Martin and Garcia and hopefully some young talent that some trades/high draft choices may bring and look to sign a big free agent this year or next.  I would much rather see a young hustling team get it handed to them than an old unathletic team which we have now play mediocre ball.  The Bibby/Stojakic/Miller core didnt work last year and the Bibby/Artest/Miller core wont work this year.  They are just complementary players who you cant build a team around.
Damn you Robert Horry!!!

by chupacabra on Dec 30, 2006 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
build around martin and garcia, yikes!. i love martins game and he's my favorite king, but can someone say lottery for years to come.

by CrownUs93 on Dec 30, 2006 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
Bye synthetic ball.
You gnashed Nash hands way too much.
We love the leather.

The Dubs are going to try to win this one like they have the past two games - beat us in the first half or even in the first quarter. Here's to hoping the Kings can start well and keep it rolling! I'm so ready to see some posterizing - by the Kings. Play Price!

by pyro on Dec 30, 2006 12:49 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
price isn't playing much because douby is the draft pick, price is the odd man out, which is stupid because douby hasn't shown an indication he is ready yet, but experience breeds confidence so coach on muss

by CrownUs93 on Dec 30, 2006 1:08 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
I like Douby and I know rookies need game time and a couple of years, look at KMart, but we also need to develop Price first then Douby, right? I think the second year is the make-or-break-it year for players.

by pyro on Dec 30, 2006 1:30 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
The games I did see Price in play about 2 weeks ago he was making some bad decisions and taking some ill advised shots.  That might be why he got benched.

by bballblog on Dec 30, 2006 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
If making bad decisions and taking ill advised shots were a prerequisite for benching, Bibby, and Artest would already be picking splinters from their behinds. I have the feeling that there are forces in place that are keeping this coach from, well, coaching.

Despite the poker-face, Geoff Petrie cannot be happy with the brothers Maloof becoming more involved in day to day decisions (see Artest trade and Adleman dismissal). I see the only remnants of the past regime still around and performing poorly. TRADE PETRIE.  

by dccamp on Dec 30, 2006 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
Ronnie Price isn't getting paid what Bibby and Artest are getting.  And despite how poorly both Bibby and Artest have been playing, in the interest of winning, I'd rather have both of them on the court than Price.

If you have any of the games on tape go back and look at them.  Price was really out of control with some of his shots, and some of his decisions.  Salmons has proven he can pick up some time at the point and Price has been given enough minutes this year to solidify his job as the back-up PG.  He's had a few good performances but I'm not as high on him as everyone else is.  

With our record as it stands I'd rather have Douby getting some minutes than Price right now, especially when Price was given the opportunity and blew it.

by bballblog on Dec 30, 2006 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
I like Price's defense better than Bibbey's which isn't saying much. He is more athletic than Mr. B. Many of his mistakes are the result of not having that much experience. I say if you are trying to build a core of young talent, go with Price at PG, Martin at off guard and Salmon at small forward. Garcia really hasn't been very impressive. There is always hope for improvement but he might be good trade bait.

by Observer on Dec 30, 2006 3:33 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
I honestly think all of us are coming down too hard on Bibby.  He's clearly hurt.  He's had some games where he's been flat out horrible and I think it's moreso due to the injury over any problems with the team.

I'd be curious to see what we were saying last year about Bibby versus this year.  You can tell he's not the same player.  Last night was the first night where he looked like the Bibby of old, aside from his 32 point 10 assist game earlier this year, and the first half of the home game against Utah.

by bballblog on Dec 30, 2006 5:42 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
Bibby hurt? It was just a two games ago that his sycophants Jerry and Grant were hailing the return of Mr. B. You can't have it both ways. On nights that he does crap he is hurt and nights when he does well he is fit. Make up your mind Bibby lovers.

by Observer on Dec 30, 2006 7:15 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
Bibby has been hurt since the preseason, "Observer".  He hurt his wrist and was supposed to sit out the first 3 weeks, or did we all forget about that?  He never did, then he did something to his leg in the first Utah game, then AGAIN the 2nd Utah game.

The fact is he hasn't been sitting out like Artest has.  Mind you, I'm a fan of BOTH players and have no problem keeping both of them or trading both of them it's good for the team and gets us closer to winning a championship.  I have an Artest jersey, I have an Artest shirt, I have two Bibby jerseys.  But the fact is, if trading either one of them gets the team closer to a championship, I'm all for it.

I don't care what Reynolds or Grant says.  Bibby has clearly been hurt.  He had a lot more explosiveness in the preseason and he has shown SOME OF it tonight.  But you can tell it's effecting him.  He's had maybe 2 complete games the whole year.

by bballblog on Dec 30, 2006 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
35-25 after 1 quarter. Yeeha. Add that to the 10 point margin quarters for "Stats Corner".

Bibby has 14, and Martin 9. Yeah, baby.

Kings-obsessed. A's obsessed. More ramblings: louisgray.com

by louismg on Dec 30, 2006 7:42 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
Also... no sign of KT anywhere. Salmons got the start. Even Douby and Garcia have playing time tonight.
Kings-obsessed. A's obsessed. More ramblings: louisgray.com

by louismg on Dec 30, 2006 7:42 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
They said KT is out with the flu as they were talking about the starting line-ups.

by bballblog on Dec 30, 2006 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
BTW, I can't hang with you guys all night, so kingme18, you're officially in charge. :-)

Go Kings!

Kings-obsessed. A's obsessed. More ramblings: louisgray.com

by louismg on Dec 30, 2006 7:43 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
douby, douby, douby, douby, douby

by CrownUs93 on Dec 30, 2006 8:12 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
74-43 at the half. Kings are crushing it. Must be because TZ is there?

39-18 in the second quarter.

16 for Douby!
14 for Bibby
11 for Martin
10 for Garcia!
10 for Abdur-Rahim

No sign of KT. That could be why we're winning too.

Now... the dreaded 3rd quarter comes next.

Kings-obsessed. A's obsessed. More ramblings: louisgray.com

by louismg on Dec 30, 2006 8:15 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
I can see why people are so high on Quincy now... Can this be his breakout game?? I always envisioned Quincy being the spark plug off the bench, eventually. Hopefully he do this to team that play better defense than the Spurs.

by kingme18 on Dec 30, 2006 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
I mean to the Warriors and hopefully he can do this to a good defensive team like a Spurs, Rockets or Mavs.

by kingme18 on Dec 30, 2006 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
I was gone for a while but... WOW... where in the world did that come from????

What happened to KT?

by kingme18 on Dec 30, 2006 8:17 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
Quincy Douby showed in that first half why he's getting minutes now and Price isn't.

by bballblog on Dec 30, 2006 8:19 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
that was like in cartoons where they crimp a hose and the water just builds up and finally explodes

by CrownUs93 on Dec 30, 2006 8:20 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
Good start to the 3rd quarter for the Kings.

by kingme18 on Dec 30, 2006 8:38 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
Hate to be a pessimist but 26 opponent points in the 3rd quarter is still a bit a disappointing.

Third quarter is the best time to change the tempo of a game and thats why when the Kings get blown out during the 3rd quarters, the Kings struggled tremendously.

by kingme18 on Dec 30, 2006 8:58 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
Ahem... Garcia? 3-14 shooting? Really?
Kings-obsessed. A's obsessed. More ramblings: louisgray.com

by louismg on Dec 30, 2006 9:18 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
Despite the poor shooting, Garcia had a fantastic defensive game: He was great on the board, had a few steals, and was just an overall pest.  However, it was obvious that he was exhausted in the 2nd quarter. His shots, though pretty good looks and in his range, were all short.

by Kusian on Dec 31, 2006 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
This game was SO fun to attend!!! The crowd was going nuts for Douby - the new and improved #8. I know...he is a rookie and this won't happen every night but it sure was fun to watch Quincy's party. Lots of standing O's for the team. I have not been in Arco with this much energy in a long time.

Classic moments in the second half: Muss had to sub in the starters to give the bench a break.

by pyro on Dec 31, 2006 1:41 AM PST reply actions  

Re: Game 28 - vs Golden State
yes...that was sweet, wasn't it?

Maybe the best 5 players for the Kings aren't the starters but some configuration with the bench players when the starters muck it up. Let's hear it for meritocracy as to who should get the 'start'....

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by Rhondda Nunes on Dec 31, 2006 4:16 PM PST reply actions  

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