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Now This is the Team I Know

I've talked about my sordid history as a Kings fan before. Growing up, listening to KFBK 1530 on the AM dial, I listened to the Kings find any way they could to lose just about every game.

From the 1988-89 season to the 1993-94 campaign (when I was 11 to 16, i.e. my formative years), the Kings won between 23 and 29 games a season. Forget about the playoffs. This was a team that couldn't even sniff a 40% winning percentage. In this "era", the Kings finished 6th or 7th in the Pacific Division every year.

No matter who the Kings threw out there... Kenny Smith, Rodney McCray, Danny Ainge, Vinny Del Negro, Wayman Tisdale... Antoine Carr, Duane Causwell, Lionel Simmons... Spud Webb, and finally, Mitch Richmond... the team stunk. We expected them to stink, and while I celebrated their occasional wins, we expected disaster.

In the 1990-91 campaign, the losing became a national joke. After losing the team's first 7 games, the Kings won 87-82 on the road against the Washington Bullets. They would go on to lose the next 37 games on the road, finishing 1-40 away from Arco that season. Then, the Kings lost the first 6 games on the road to start the 1991-92 season, setting an NBA record for futility that still stands, at 43 consecutive losses. (See: Basketball.com: "Most consecutive road games lost")

17 years later, we again have a team in the cellar of the Pacific Division (albeit with 5 teams, not 7). We again have a team with a winning percentage that starts with a ".3". We again have a team with players we root for, players we loathe, and... a seven game losing streak on the road to start the season. The Kings' 0-7 start is the worst in the NBA away from home. (The Knicks are 0-6 and the T-Wolves are 0-4)

Maybe the Kings aren't out to break their own record here. Maybe they're better than that historic 1990-91 team was. But while I enjoyed the "fat" years of Webber/Divac/Bibby/Christie/Jackson and continually reaching the playoffs every season, part of me says that those years were not legitimate, and the Kings are back to playing their appropriate role.

Welcome back, Kings. Some sick parts of us missed you.

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Re: Now This is the Team I Know
1987-88  The Reggie Theus led, Bill Russell/Jerry Reynolds coached Kings finish 24-58.

1997-98  The Mitch Richmond led, Eddie Jordan coached Kings finish 27-55.

2007-08  The Kevin Martin led, Reggie Theus coached Kings finish...

The NBA in Sacramento. Where consistency happens.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Nov 25, 2007 11:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Now This is the Team I Know
2007-2008:The Kevin Martin, Theus coaching Kings are a improvin'.....

They finished 33-49.let's see how close that stays
(or gets).

by Rhondda Nunes on Nov 27, 2007 12:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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...and to the people that voted 5-0 in the home stand poll, please contact me immediately. I would like to sell you my stake in the Tower Bridge.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Nov 25, 2007 11:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

That's just being mean
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Nov 26, 2007 1:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And ironically I enjoyed it
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Nov 26, 2007 1:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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Nice commentary Louis. And you're right about the sick side that believes this is the Kings place. It's hard to shake that thought.
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Nov 26, 2007 1:55 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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Thanks - I'm mostly interested in why nobody questions which sick parts?
Kings-obsessed. A's obsessed. More ramblings: louisgray.com

by louismg on Nov 26, 2007 7:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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Because we just ate breakfast?

by Ziller on Nov 26, 2007 9:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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I just assumed you meant stomach and head. Was I wrong?
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Nov 26, 2007 12:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Now This is the Team I Know
Maybe we don't question the sick part, 'cuz' we kinda like it like that...(Sick, I know).

by Rhondda Nunes on Nov 27, 2007 12:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Now This is the Team I Know
Current #1 result on search for 1990-91 Sacramento Kings: an auction for one game-worn Bobby Hansen Kings jersey, starting bid $165.  Hurry--auction ends tomorrow!

by jgurney on Nov 26, 2007 7:05 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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Bobby Hansen? Christ that's depressing.

Will I some day feel that way I hear the name Francisco Garcia?

by Ziller on Nov 26, 2007 7:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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Did Hansen ever drop +30 and block shots?  My memory of Bobby Hansen is as an unathletic white guy who averaged maybe 5 or 6 points a game.

El Flaco may not turn out as good as we like, but he'll never be a scrub. He's got way too many tools.

by Kusian on Nov 26, 2007 10:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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As depressing as Bobby Hansen being our starting shooting guard, he was the better of the trade components coming back.  Least we all forget the Eric Leckner era.
Damn you Robert Horry!!!

by chupacabra on Nov 26, 2007 11:27 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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Only the Kings of that era could parlay the first pick of the draft for Bobby Hansen, Eric Leckner, and Utah's first round pick which I believe ended up being Duane Causewell or Eric Bonner.  Jeez no wonder we sucked for the better part of the 90's.
Damn you Robert Horry!!!

by chupacabra on Nov 26, 2007 11:35 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Now This is the Team I Know
And this deal (and deals like them) is why we are slow to criticize Geoff Petrie. I call it the Axelson Effect.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Nov 26, 2007 12:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Now This is the Team I Know
Ah yes.  Don't forget that the team had possibly the most inept management team in the history of professional sports at that time.  The anti-Wooden, Bill Russell at coach, noted cheapskate Greg Lukenbill holding the purse strings, and the aforementioned architect Joe Axelson.  
Damn you Robert Horry!!!

by chupacabra on Nov 26, 2007 1:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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Whoa, whoa, whoa buddy! Gregg wasn't a cheap skate. Save that kinda backhand pimp-slap for Jim Thomas. Gregg was the poorest owner in the NBA, and it almost broke him trying to keep the Kings.
Gregg bought and brought the Kings more out of civic pride(and to lure a baseball team) than anything else.

W/o him, we don't have anything to bitch about, remember that.

The wise man tells you Where you have fallen And where you yet may fall - Invaluable secrets! The world may hate him. But good men love him.

by Psychrates on Nov 26, 2007 5:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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Nice points, KTR.  I know Gregg personally, so that kind of talks gets me going a bit. As you said, no Gregg then no professional sports in Sactown.

I'm not saying that I'd want him back for an owner; but it took his pit bull personality to get things rolling.  We all owe him a thank you for making it happen.

by Kusian on Nov 26, 2007 6:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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Before GL I had to travel to Oakland to watch my favorite team get trounced. Now I don't have to leave the city. Thanks, Gregg!

Seriously, dude was a pioneer with some serious brass ones to pull off what he did considering his limited financial resources and a non-existent corporate landscape (remember, this was a military town when he moved The Kings here).

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Nov 26, 2007 6:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Now This is the Team I Know
It was a "government" town.
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Nov 27, 2007 3:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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Tell him I remember the presentation @ David Lubin Elementary, he's brought me tons of happiness. and his daughter's beautiful.

Oh, yeah: Tell him I said thank you, too.

The wise man tells you Where you have fallen And where you yet may fall - Invaluable secrets! The world may hate him. But good men love him.

by Psychrates on Nov 26, 2007 8:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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Not trying to bash Greg but a duck is a duck.  I tip my hat to the man for spearheading the move to get the Kings here but for many years during his tenure the Kings didn't shell out money for free agents, basically got into a MMA deathcage match yearly with the agents of the team's lottery picks over rookie contracts, and were notoriously cheap in investing in the scouting/coaching/basketball operations of the team.  Probably the only reason Jerry Reynolds held on for so many years during that period is that he worked for cheap and the team didn't have to pay anymore money to replace him.  And before everyone deifies Greg,  I don't think that it was a coincidence that the person to lead the "civic pride posse" to bring the Kings to town also was the same person who had the most to gain fiancially from developing Natomas as the principle land owner and developer there at the time.
Damn you Robert Horry!!!

by chupacabra on Nov 26, 2007 7:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Now This is the Team I Know
Bob Lurie had his warts too, but without him we are looking at the Denver Giants. Gregg was by no means perfect, but I think the point here is that he was not cheap as much as his funds were limited.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Nov 26, 2007 7:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Now This is the Team I Know
The duck quacking is the WHOLE reason you're able to roast the duck. Like it was said previously, there wasn't money to spend, the players we had weren't worth the money(Theus included, 20ppg from the PG was not superstar material in the 80's!)they asked for, and no way in hell were we going to get a player of star caliber by free agency or trade.

Remember these as our best players?
Spud Webb(Atlanta Hawks cast-off)
Danny Ainge(Boston Celtics cast-off)
Mitch Richmond(GS's mistake)

Name better players pre-Adelman era, I dare ya.

You don't spend 10.6 w/o expecting to make some money off it, agreed. But if you can't make a corollary between the Kings arriving and the prosperity of this town, you're not trying.  
BTW, everyone loves Jerry, but no one sane person thinks he's beneficial to the organization, besides locals faking a heart attack from the sideline during a pickup game.

The wise man tells you Where you have fallen And where you yet may fall - Invaluable secrets! The world may hate him. But good men love him.

by Psychrates on Nov 26, 2007 9:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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I never tried to disparage the Kings importance to the city, just point out that the ownership was inept.

As for better players pre-Adelman than the ones you named, a couple of guys named Eddie Johnson, Otis Thorpe weren't too bad...

 

Damn you Robert Horry!!!

by chupacabra on Nov 26, 2007 9:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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I will agree with you on that point, chupacabra. Lukenbill entrusted the player decisions to Axelson, who proved to be quite inept. And bringing in Bill Russell, Dick Motta, etc. did nothing to help the situation. It's fair to say that Sacramento was the only venue where a team that bad could sell out night after night.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Nov 26, 2007 10:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Now This is the Team I Know
Agree 214, the truth is in the middle somewhere..
Damn you Robert Horry!!!

by chupacabra on Nov 26, 2007 7:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Now This is the Team I Know
Yes. & wouldn't you say section 214, that it's a testament to the passion of B-Ball fans in Sacramento giving all that love to poor King's teams that in other areas of the country woulda just produced a collective civic yawn?

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by Rhondda Nunes on Nov 27, 2007 12:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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