The Beno kool-aid
I think we can all agree that Beno's producing about 70-80% of what Bibby would be, and for a significantly cheaper price. It makes sense then, if our season is going nowhere by the trade deadline, to trade Bibby on the cheap for whatever you can get. (Hey, that Miami #1 and J-Will doesn't look too bad right now, right?)
But Udrih's not a long-term solution by any means. I know we have a really small sample size this year (he's only played in 14 games and only started in 12) but he's posting a 15/3.5/4 this year in 35 minutes per game. I'd like those numbers from a shooting guard maybe, but not a point. It's pretty difficult to have a winning team when your point guard is only having 4 assists a game. Hell, Ron "I'll take any shot" Artest is leading the team in assists. Not a real good sign.
Do I think he's a good player? Yeah. But we're going to need a better passer at the point to bring our team to the next level. The obvious choice would be to take Rose/Mayo in the lottery but I don't think we'll be that bad. Maybe we could even get a stopgap point guard who passes better. There's even one that would be available who has 5.6 assists per game over 33 minutes per game. Not fantastic, but better than what we've got. We could even have a little change of pace - Udrih to score, and this guy to feed the big guys and K-Mart.
Who, you ask? Well...as I said, J-Will and that Miami #1 doesn't look so bad right now.
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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Beno Is a Decent Passer
by dalt99 on Dec 12, 2007 8:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
true, but
by coachtheus on Dec 12, 2007 9:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But...
This is not to say that he is the long term answer at point guard. I'm just not ready to rule out the possibility yet. That said, if Rose or Mayo were available you'd have to grab them. But as I mentioned in an earlier thread, Udrih is probably good enough that you don't have to reach for Jarreyd Bayless, Darren Collison or Ty Lawson. Keep Beno and draft a big instead.
by section214 on Dec 12, 2007 8:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
For crying out loud, dalt!
by section214 on Dec 12, 2007 8:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think...
I think Drew is the perfect complement with Brad along with Mikki coming off the bench.
Eric Snow, Damnon Jones, Drew Gooden and Ira Newble + #1 pick for Bibby, Kenny Thomas anyone?
I'd do that deal.
by kingme18 on Dec 12, 2007 9:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
70-80%?
Let compare Bibby last season with Beno this year:
Bibby: 34 mins, 5.7-14.2 FG, .404 FG%, .360 3P%, 1.1 STL, 2.4 TO, 4.7 AST, 17.1 PTS.
Beno: 35 mins, 5.7-12.6 FG, .455 FG%, .382 3P%, 1.3 STL, 2.4 TO, 4.1 AST, 14.9 PTS.
Pretty similar.
You might argue that Bibby just had an off year, but I see it as more of a continuation of a downward trend over the last few seasons.
But Bibby was coming off a preseason injury, as is Beno. Beno is also learning a new system and new teammates, so I'd expect his play to improve as the season goes on.
I also think Beno gives us more on the defensive end, if for no other reason than he has younger legs.
Is he our future, I don't know. Should we trade Bibby? Yes. I say move Bibby for any one or more of the following, Prospect, Cap space, draft picks.
I don't disagree with your diary, just wanted to add some punch to the Kool-Aid.
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 13, 2007 4:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Agree, Agree, Agree
I like the ability Beno has to break down the defense off the dribble - it may not be showing up currently in the assist numbers, but I have a feeling it will once this team feels more comfortable in Theus' offense.
The one stat that stands out to me? The field goal percentage. It's nice to have a PG that goes to the hole and actually finishes, even amongst the tall timber.
And Beno is four years younger than Bibby, and should only get better as he gets more PT.
Is Beno the long-term solution? My guess is yes, if we can resign him.
by otis29 on Dec 13, 2007 6:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreeing with Otis?
by jjham15 on Dec 13, 2007 8:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You deserve credit on that
by pookeyguru on Dec 13, 2007 8:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Beno Koolaid
One of the positives is that Beno is scoring at a more efficent rate and with less shots. I don't think it's a coincidence other players scoring have gone up with Beno. He simply has gotten the ball to the other players in better spots than Bibby has in the past.
by pookeyguru on Dec 13, 2007 7:15 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Another thing that's helping matters
by pookeyguru on Dec 13, 2007 7:41 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Fighting for control...
by jjham15 on Dec 13, 2007 8:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As compelling as this team is
by pookeyguru on Dec 13, 2007 8:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately
by otis29 on Dec 13, 2007 9:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And when I say "unfortunately"
It was more wishful thinking that Artest could harness his ego enough to allow his immense talent to shine in this offense.
by otis29 on Dec 13, 2007 9:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We are all in agreement...
by jjham15 on Dec 13, 2007 9:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
more beno
by Murf on Dec 13, 2007 12:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Tommy was a good coach
by pookeyguru on Dec 13, 2007 1:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Beno's love in
by Mityt on Dec 13, 2007 1:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Beno ! Beno! Beno
by pookeyguru on Dec 13, 2007 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you talking about NBDL teams or Euro teams?
by jjham15 on Dec 13, 2007 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's a NBA talent
by pookeyguru on Dec 13, 2007 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Douby
by section214 on Dec 13, 2007 7:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's especially true because he plays
by pookeyguru on Dec 13, 2007 7:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no surprise
Beno Udrih
Leandro Barbosa
John Salmons(yup!)
Luis Scola
Tony Parker
Manu Ginobili
The Spurs know what they're doing! So I say stay with Beno, the Spur draft pick.
by kingsfaninjapan on Dec 13, 2007 3:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Those are the highlights
by pookeyguru on Dec 13, 2007 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
okay
Udrih
Scola
Parker
Ginobili
and you have a two time all star, a finals mvp, and another all star. The point is the Spurs know talent and they always seem to get it with late first round picks. We all know Parker and Ginobili are up their on the list at their positions. Scola's still new to the NBA, and now Udrih is an early candidate for MIP.
by kingsfaninjapan on Dec 13, 2007 3:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The spurs organization is great
by pookeyguru on Dec 13, 2007 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
by kingsfaninjapan on Dec 13, 2007 4:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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