Who Should Stay? Who Should Go?

They need to get rid of Kenny Thomas, Artest, then Miller. The Poodle is just downright horrible. Artest for obvious reasons and Miller because he doesn't ever seem to want to play ball. I know he had problems with his foot this year too so I don't see that getting better with his age.

The need to keep Martin, Justin Williams and Garcia, all for obvious reasons, age and athleticism. The rest of the team can stay or go.

Personally, I'd like to keep Ronnie Price, just for his energy. He is definitely this teams new Bobby Jackson and needs some more PT to get his shot down. Salmons never impressed me and Shareef is slow but still has a bit of a post game so that might be nice to keep too. Corliss would be nice for that energy off the bench and his wisdom for the young guys.

If memory serves, Artest and Carlisle don't mix.  Carlisle is an awesome coach, though, so maybe the Kings will see fit to bring him in while giving Ron the boot.  I bet they could liquidate him for draft picks and an expiring contract.

To trade you need another team to take your players, is there really a market for most of the "talent" the Kings have?

Thomas - unlikely is an overpaid role player with a long term dea who sulks if he doesn't start/play

Miller will he ever be healthy?  Does he really care? Is basketball important to him?

Bibby clutch shooter, can score, couldn't guard a blind man in a phone box, not overly keen on listening to coaching. is owed decent money but only for two more years.  A team in contention would value his scoring and other talent could hide his defensive liabilities, If J will can play for championship winner Bibby can!

Artest, a talent but has "baggage"

Petrie and the Kings got the short end of the stick with Webber getting hurt, they either were stuck with him or they took what they could get and got other teams bad contracts.  Could you imagine what it would be like if Webb was still her and they traded for Artest, good luck coaching that group.  What other options did Petrie have once Webber got hurt, after last year this team looked like a playoff contender, it will be interesting to see what happens now

For a new coach I don't want a lifer ie the Del Harris, (would he want to leave Dallas anyway?), I'm for picking a Mario Elie, Ivaroni type.

One for Adelman he got the players he had to play to the best of there abilities, Thomas was decent last year in spots

Jason Williams is nice, it would be good to have him coming off the bench to provide rebounds and energy and see what he can become.  I would not give him big money.  But if a Toronto cames along and offers him a Yogi Stewart type deal I'd wish him well.  Its the same issue with Ronnie Price, if he is your back up point thats not good, but as guy 8-10 on the bench thats great

If you act in haste you tend to repent at leisure

i think you have to go young and see who establishes themselves as the leader of this team.  you trade bibby and miller, and even take a little less in the miller trade just to get rid of him.  let's face it, with the way the team is stacked right now, there is no way the team is going to win a championship, but the playoffs aren't totally out of reach.  and with the young players, making the playoffs would be a start.  then rebuild this thing in the next couple of years through the draft and free agency.

as for shareef, he is nice off the bench so i wouldn't be opposed to him staying.  he is a quality guy and you can always use those.  

i say build around martin, garcia, price, williams and a free agent and/or draft pick.  the kings have nice young talent and with the help of the draft and/or free agency they could be dangerous to play.

 

I'd personally like to see us go after Ivaraoni(sp.) grab a mike conley jr in the draft and just run up and down the court, ala the Suns.  That way at least our rebuilding years are entertaining.  I am pretty sure I read this somewhere, but I agree with whoever proposed this idea initially.

Obviously this wouldn't work with the likes of Miller since he can hardly jog let alone run, unfortunately we are going to end up taking other peoples contracts to get rid of ours. It should be an interesting off-season either way, as I see us making a lot of different moves regardless of which coach/philosophies we adopt.

Final thought, we definitely need a coach before our speculation on players makes any sense...

Mo I also feel that you are on to something here. Bibby is probably our best asset for trading followed by Artest. I think we can get the bigs we need from dealing both of them and then draft Conley Jr.

If we would have stayed at the 8 pick I think the whole team would look different than it does with the 10 pick. With Hibbert, Oden, Horford and Wright gone, we have no choice but to either draft the 5th or 6th best big man or the #1 point.

Dream situation we would get one of the first three picks and get the stud we need to help us today. We would still deal Artest but, Bibby and Martin make for a nice back court for the immediate future. Living in reality and planning for us to pick at 10, I would rather draft Conley than Noah and build from there.

Lastly, Petrie is the architect. After watching what has happened to Dallas, who is considered a good defensive team, I see us going to coach "I" and trying to outscore everyone again. Offense sells tickets, this sad attempt at playing defense does not.

I think because of a combination of poor years and contracts that run into the next century, B-Rad and the Poodle/K9 are here to stay unfortunately as everyone has already mentioned.  We should be able to move Bibby and Artest because they still have some value and moveable contracts.  Reef might also be a prime candidate to be moved.  His contract isn't quite the albatross that some of the others on this team are and contending teams are always looking for a low post scoring option.  With that being said I see Martin, Garcia, Douby, Miller, Thomas, Salmons, and Williams as probable returns to the roster.

We can probably deal Douby in a package with other players and Salmons could yield us a about as much as Shareef. The best possible situation in my book is to jettison both of these guys because they are not long term fixes. We wasted 25 million on Salmons when we could have had Matt Barnes for less than 1 mill. Martin, Garcia and Williams (I would love to keep Price as well but I doubt he wants to come back) should be the staring point. Add Miller because he is untradeble and just pay Kenny Thomas off and ask him to leave.

I know they aren't going to buy him out but they should. He is a disruptive ass who needs to be some where else, much like Ron-Ron.

I don't think K9 was utilized properly, EVER under Muss. Musselman never gave K9 an opportunity to show what he can do offensively. Let's not forget has had 30 point outbursts with us under Adelman. I don't think Muss ever gave him a chance offensively and K9 quite frankly never understood why.