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Nothin' Cooking, Says Petrie

by Tom Ziller on Sep 13, 2007 8:15 AM PDT in Free Agency/Trades

The Bee's Marty McNeal got Geoff Petrie on the horn. Here's the result:

Kings basketball president Geoff Petrie left Wednesday for Madrid, Spain, to see the final few days of the European championships. He said there was nothing on the table for the Kings in terms of a trade, so what the Kings have now likely will be what we'll see when they open training camp next month.

Some general managers get set on a roster early in the summer and don't get involved in trade talks until the season begins. Petrie isn't one of those: Several of his moves have come later than the usual rush (the Bonzi Wells trade, the Shareef Abdur-Rahim), and rumors have placed the Kings in trade talks into the preseason before (such as the Kenny Thomas-Desmond Mason talks two years ago, which I've been told by two people were really close to being consumated).

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Re: Nothin' Cooking, Says Petrie

Geoff Petrie should be tossed out on his ass. This is a pure and simple failure to do his job. It's obvious to everyone on Earth but Petrie and the Maloofs that this team needs major changes, but Petrie will apparently be happy with an outside chance at 40 wins. Just pathetic.

by Carl on Sep 13, 2007 9:13 AM PDT reply actions

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Your right, Geoff Petrie is an idiot and should have just told Marty Mac the whole master plan. Better yet, maybe he can go on that drunk ass hole's radio show and tell all of us via the air waves who and what he is looking to trade because that's what a good GM would do.

We are slipping into the NBA abyss.

by jjham15 @ Sactown Royalty on Sep 13, 2007 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions

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Gas Station Employee: I'm picking up your sarcasm.

Richard Hayden (David Spade): Well, I should hope so, because i'm laying it on pretty thick.

by Kusian on Sep 13, 2007 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions

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The problem is that Petrie's has some "plan," but he's done essentially nothing to execute it. That includes trades to shed or reduce salaries, buying out contracts - whatever it takes.

I can "plan" to put wings on pigs, but that means squat until you seem them fly. Waiting out multi year deals is not a plan for improvement. It's an excuse for inaction.

by Carl on Sep 13, 2007 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Nothin' Cooking, Says Petrie

How is Geoff Petrie failing to do his job? Because he can't move underachieving players with overachieving contracts (Kenny Thomas and Brad Miller)? I think he already came out and said that the team is in rebuilding mode. It's not like this is his final answer. But contracts must be worked through sometimes. Kind of like getting into a lease with a horrible roommate, but having to gut out that year because you signed the contract. Anyways, GO KINGS.

by kingsfaninjapan on Sep 13, 2007 11:11 AM PDT reply actions

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Well, the devil's advocate in me says that your giving Petrie a pass for not moving contracts that HE acquired.

But that's as far as I will go...gotta agree with jjham here. Petrie is the last GM in the league that would spill anything to the local or national media. That doesn't necessarily mean he is working on something, but I think this whole subject is a non-issue.

by otis29 on Sep 13, 2007 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions

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I don't think it's a matter of giving GP a "pass." IMO, the issues are separate: (1) Did GP (and the Maloofs)overpay for Bibby, Miller, and KT? Well, the answer now is obvious. Of course, they did. (2) With that said, should GP try and trade crap contracts for crap players with equally bad contracts? I think not.

He has little choice - absent some idiot GM handing us a gift - but to wait until contracts expire and/or one or more of these guys performs better and becomes tradeable in exchange for a decent player(s).

by Kusian on Sep 13, 2007 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions

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The funny thing is that I don't think anyone was saying these guys were overpaid when the contracts were initially signed. Bibby, Miller and KT all had really good years the season before signing. Show me the GM (or the blogger or fan or whoever!) who can predict a player's ups and downs throughout that player's career.

by kingsfaninjapan on Sep 13, 2007 12:44 PM PDT reply actions

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True. It seems like the nature of the NBA is that players almost always end up looking overpaid. It's a young man's game and when folks age and skills diminish, it looks like the GM/owners overpaid for the talent.

by Kusian on Sep 13, 2007 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions

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I have to fully agree with this. GMs can't predict what is going to happen. You can only go on what info you have up to this point. Player xyz does well one season or a few and gets rewarded with a raise or better job offer. This is done in 'hopes' that this trend will continue and that player will produce for a few years. Players go into it with the hopes of doing well, but they even cannot predict what will happen. Sure, they can try their hardest to do well but crap happens. The age bug hits you all of a sudden (SAR), you get injured (B52), off court issues affect your game (Ron-Ron), you seem to be in a slum you can't get out of (Bibby), so many things can affect how a players season(s) turn out. My point is this, it is all a guessing game. Some people guess better then others and take chances on players in hopes things pan out. I don't know if any of this made a lick of sense to anyone but to me it does and that is what matters I guess.

by idjpg85 on Sep 13, 2007 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Nothin' Cooking, Says Petrie

I said they were overpaid. But I have no proof so Ill leave it at that.

I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Sep 13, 2007 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions

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Did Petrie sign KT or did he come from philly with that bloated luggage? I thought it was the latter but I can't remember.

trade em all

by kangsfan on Sep 13, 2007 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions

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He was part of the trade.

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by section214 on Sep 13, 2007 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Nothin' Cooking, Says Petrie

i'm not one for thread jacking but i can personally guarantee spencer hawes will have a better rookie season than greg oden

Whether your dominating the playground, the last one to leave the gym, or your big time like Mike Bibby...

by CrownUs93 on Sep 13, 2007 1:42 PM PDT reply actions

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sorry guys, didn't see the diary

Whether your dominating the playground, the last one to leave the gym, or your big time like Mike Bibby...

by CrownUs93 on Sep 13, 2007 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions

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No harm, no foul. Long live Shawes' knee.

by Tom Ziller on Sep 13, 2007 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Nothin' Cooking, Says Petrie

We can go back and forth all day about the good and bad decisions GP has made, the value of a player, contract theory, etc, etc.

But how does one judge a General Manager's career?

I propose two measures:

Team net revenues minus gross costs
Total wins minus total losses

How do you think GP will do?
This is by no means my idea of final authority, but I'd be curious to see how you guys agree or oppose the measures.

by NYCFan @ Sactown Royalty on Sep 14, 2007 7:47 AM PDT reply actions

Re: Nothin' Cooking, Says Petrie

Great measuring sticks, though I wonder how much say GP has over revenues and costs (that is, how much payroll freedom is he truly given - I have no idea).

The next thing would be to use these measuring sticks to judge all of the GM's over the past 5-10 years and see where Petrie ranks. My guess would be somewhere between 6-10.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Sep 14, 2007 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions

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Good point on payroll control.

by NYCFan @ Sactown Royalty on Sep 14, 2007 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions

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