Kevin Johnson, Mayor of Sacramento?
Sacramento News & Review's Cosmo Garvin with the big scoop: Kevin Johnson might announce as soon as tomorrow a decision to run for mayor of Sacramento.
What would Mayor KJ would do for local arena talks? It couldn't hurt, that's for sure. It would've been more valuable four years ago, when Heather Fargo contributed to screwing the relationships up. But it cannot hurt.
KJ took a lot of lumps from the recent series of stories in the Sacramento Bee regarding St. HOPE's latent property holdings in Oak Park. But you cannot buy his name recognition. Today, more Sacramentans know KJ's face than Fargo's, and she's been mayor for, like, a decade. If he's in, he wins.
UPDATE: I can't believe I missed this on first read: Garvin (and the political minds he quotes) notes a KJ candidacy might provoke Assemblyman Dave Jones to jump in the frey. Honestly, nothing good (in strictly arena terms) could come of that: He doesn't need to defend his Assembly seat this June, so there's no chance he gets out of the way in the Legislature, and he certainly has his constituency. You'd think KJ would cream him, but if he didn't... Mayor Dave Jones would destroy local hopes for a new arena. DE-STROY. Need I remind you, he recently tried to get the Cal Expo board to refuse to even talk to the NBA about agreeing to negotiate over terms under which a new arena could conceivably be negotiated for. He wants nothing to do with the Sacramento Kings, which is a problem for those of us who'd like the Kings to stay in Sacramento. Go KJ.
UPDATE #2: Marcos Breton get an emergency Bee column on the subject up about four hours after the News & Review's piece... and does not mention the News & Review. Stay classy, Marcos. (You'd think a metro columnist who was a longtime sports columnist at the only daily in town might get to this story first? Yikes.)
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He's...
Curtis Park don't have economic problems
TZ
Couldn't be any worse
Dave Jones
Torrid Love Affair With RE Graswich
TZ, you just can't allow that type of thing on this site. The visual will haunt me for years.
Guess
I wouldn't rule out the Graswich affair, though.
Back in the day
He and Jones sound like soul-mates to me.
by LeaguePassAddict on Jan 24, 2008 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
Maloofs should really have Jones wacked.
by jjham15 @ Sactown Royalty on Jan 24, 2008 8:24 PM PST reply actions
Mayor
I really don't think KJ would have that much traction. As biased as the Bee articles were, there was a lot of truth in them and there are/were lots of former St. HOPE employees/parents who've complained for years about the school. Also, current neighbors of bad properties KJ owns. Not saying that they're right to complain only that they'd be easy enough for an opponent to trot out to repeat their claims.
At least two historic properties (Esther's and Don Ju's) he owns were allowed to deteriorate to the point of possibly being torn down. Currently, they are still in that state of disrepair.
As nice as his 40 acres property is, I think the actual residents of Oak Park derive more benefit from the charitable Wellspring Women's Center than they do from having a neighborhood Starbucks.
If Fargo runs, she'd be hard to attack given that she was recently diagnosed with MS. I suspect that if she truly felt she couldn't campaign and win against KJ she might withdraw due to her health and then you would have a (Kings) sympathetic current city council member who might be more electable. I.e. Rob Fong.
I've also read that termed out state Assemblywoman Deborah Ortiz is interested in running for mayor. I really don't know how she keeps getting elected to office, but she does it consistently.
Both are minority candidates who'd probably have wider support than KJ.
I think there are other candidates who'd come forward in a heartbeat if KJ's candidacy convinced Fargo to retire and those other candidates would be much much harder for him to beat.
But that's just my increasingly deflated two cents worth.
KK
I'd vote for Ortiz
But...
Which explains your decision and my conclusion.
And with this comment, I'm done discussing her.
KK
This was meant for pookey
Sorry.
by KK on Jan 24, 2008 9:14 PM PST up reply actions
Ummmm
Ummm...dieux
I wasn't trying to pick a fight and I really wasn't clear about what I was trying to say either.
I was trying to make clearer my reasons for not understanding WHY she keeps getting elected without getting deeper into it than I am comfortable doing. I am not an intimate of hers, I've just moved around her periphery for years and know some of the same people she does and some family. I'm not trying to defame anyone, or discourage anyone from voting for her should she decide to run for mayor.
Back to my original intention. I don't think Kevin Johnson could win if he decided to run for mayor.
Should KJ decide to run, he could open the race to a whooooole bunch of other candidates who I think would crush him. Including, possibly, Dave Jones, Deborah Ortiz, or Rob Fong (maybe even Sandy Sheedy) and any of them would probably beat him handily. Remember, this election is strictly for residents of the City of Sacramento, not the County of Sacramento. City voters seem to like Mayor Fargo a lot.
Because it's a City only vote, I have no more dog in this fight than Pookey does. I was just expressing my opinion as was he.
Boy, I am re-closing this can of worms. Again.
No offense intended towards you, Pook!
: )
One last peek into the can of worms...
The most registered (and likely to vote) voters reside in the wealthier areas within the city: Land Park, South Land Park, Curtis Park, River Park, Elmhurst, and East Sac.
The City has probably picked up more voters in other areas (Downtown, Midtown, Oak Park etc.) since I was last a resident and politically active within the City confines, but I don't think there are enough newer voters to change the outcome of what the older neighborhoods want. And as those older neighborhoods get increasingly expensive they are (IMHO only) less likely to vote Democrat and lean more Republican. So, fewer socially responsible bills will pass and God forbid spending any tax money on retaining the Kings.
Again, my devalued .02 cents.
Okay First off No worries mayne
I don't know the demographics of the city, but I highly doubt that the City has a much higher % of Republicans. But that's a personal opinion of someone who did live there recently.
As far as to how the vote breakdown I agree with KK that KJ's popularity is probably the biggest thing that he has going for him. I also agree that the older neighborhoods, all of whom which vote, won't give a damn about the Kings anymore than other neighborhoods. The biggest change in the City now vs say 1997 is the rise of Natomas which is more of a suburb, and has more suburb values, than anywhere else in Sac at the moment.
Natomas voters...
Natomas is in foreclosure Hell and the Army Corps of Engineers just threw Natomas 13 levels deeper into Hell by declaring the levees unsafe. Non-floodplain flood insurance in Sacramento is a few hundred bucks a year, I have no idea what "New Orleans style disaster-waiting-to-happen" flood insurance costs and Natomas is about to find out. Check out TZ's excellent link on the right side-bar to Sacramento Land(ing) and Lander's excellent links if you really want to delve into nerdland. Yes, I am a nerd. I love the Kings but defer to y'all here because you know basketball better than I will ever know it. I'm no expert in economics/politics either, but I am less awed by econo-nerds than by the basketball demi-gods on StR. Seriously.
As far as Dem vs. Rep within the city? I think it's tilting...too damn much money in those houses in the older neighborhoods. Even Elmhurst is over $500K for teardowns. East Sac south of Folsom Blvd is near a million for the same, over a million if it's been improved. East Sac between J and Folsom and between around 33rd and 50th? Fuggidaboutit. McKinley Park? Pshaw! I love these old neighborhoods and the houses but I will never be able to live there again unless I win the lottery! That's too much money to be Democrats, isn't it? Midtown is being condo-converted with condo's starting around $400K for maybe 500-600 sqft. Like I said, it's just a feeling but when people moving into the areas have that kind of money, they're usually not Democrats.
KK
Okay Mayne Some things
My point is that the mentality of the suburbs is the mentality of the suburbs. That mentality exists far greater in Natomas than other parts of Sac. That's all that point was. As far as the foreclosure's I doubt you will see an improvement toward the Kings in attitude there. So your point is well noted.
As far as the money it takes to buy those house's I see your point but vastly disagree. East Sac is not a large base of Sac's population, and in all reality the lower income Sac voters will still drive that election. I do think, though, that a drive in those prices of real estate has alot to dow ith the Bay Area influx, and last I checked plenty of Bay Area richies are Dem's.
I hear you mayne , dos.
I agree with you about the condos yet they seem to be holding their prices and selling. I am totally WTF? on those sales. If they were budging much, I'd be out of the 'burbs and back into town. Maybe, someday, they'll come down. When they do, I'll opt for the SFH instead of condo Hell with their endless monthly fees.
You're spot on that the 'burbs support the Kings better than the city does, but the reality is that there are very few incorporated 'burbs. The wealthier (and most susceptible part) of Natomas hasn't been incorporated yet. But these are also the 'burbs most threatened with foreclosure and flood insurance into the thousands of dollars per year. ARCO is a part of the city, yet there are vast swaths of North Natomas that aren't. The city didn't want them when they were farm land. The city did want them when they were converted to housing and the values were rising, but these are the riskiest of city acquisitions. Now, their values are falling and they have a huge flood risk (like they didn't always). Is it feasible to incorporate them now (and is there time?) before the next mayoral election? I don't think so.
If you were the city, why would you? You gain a failing asset. Pardon me but, you gain your newest ghetto. A ghetto of 2,000+ sqft houses, but another ghetto. Another neighborhood that doesn't generate enough in taxes to pay for the needed infrastructure of schools and road maintenance. Another neighborhood of blighted housing, of boarded up windows, and increasing crime. Even though the city is in the middle of trying to acquire North Natomas, I would bet you they find a way out of it and leave the governance to the strapped county.
Seriously, things have changed since you left here, Pook. It's scary times all around unless you just focus on basketball...then it's LESS scary times!
Pessimistically,
KK
This response...
BUT, I love your signature. I absolutely loved to watch Corliss last year, and back in the day. Pride goes a long way, and he always played balls-out.
by 27freethrows on Jan 24, 2008 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
As long as it isn't stupid
27freethrows
But thanks for complimenting my ability to discern good writing.
KK
Thread Points
Second, if we are to nominate an StR member for the race I choose Kusian, as it will force pookey to vote Republican.
Third, I have and will continue to support the only mayorial candidate who has stayed above the lies and innuendo, the only candidate who has never deviated from his plan of feeding this country and has served billions of his constituents - I am voting for Mayor McCheese.
You better go national then buddy
Will Sir Charles be appointed Vice Mayor?
To quote a friend of Johnson's, I may be wrong...but I doubt it...
Great narrative RB
Johnson's run
The only way I see it is, if Fargo faces a tough competitor (I think KJ has his own problems with running), she MAY decline to run based on her health (recent multiple sclerorsis diagnosis).
If she decides to retire instead of running, this is what would open up the race for KJ to enter. Other politicians are deferring to Fargo because, how do you debate/anihilate your opponent when they're sick? You can't without seeming to be uncaring.
Should Fargo retire, then the whole candidate pool opens up and nobody has to be reticent about any other candidate's failings. This is where KJ's possible opponents hammer him on his Oak Park holdings. (Read my previous comments so that I don't beat a dead horse). I am not saying that his critics are right, but I am saying they have a point. He came into Oak Park as a savior of blight, he was going to save the ghetto he grew up in. This is/was an admirable goal. His record there is spotty. I don't necessarilly blame him because no one man can do it all. But he was billed as the one man who could.
I will say this again. I think the current neighborhood is better served by Wellspring Women's Center than it is by a Starbucks. But that's just my opinion. If I can think that uneducated opinion up in 30 seconds of contemplation, how badly would his political opponents kill him on everything else in his real estate portfolio in the Oak Park area? For Christsake's, when he bought Esther's Bakery and Don Ju's club, they were functioning businesses. Now they are threatened with being demolished because the roofs have caved in! I'm not asking him to earthquake proof the buildings but how do they fall into that kind of disrepair?
If there's a legitimate reason for it to happen then so be it, but KJ has never explained it, as far as I know.
If you'd like to donate to Wellspring, as I do, here's the link: http://www.wellspringwomen.org/ Didja think I don't care about what happens in this community? Not likely, but that's the reason I am so passionate about this topic. What Kevin Johnson has done is admirable, what he has tried to do and failed to do is dismal. Fourty Acres is admirable, but the people (and employees) it has drawn come from the suburbs, it hasn't really helped the people who live in the neighborhood.
Here's a link to the current city council districts and the city limits (Pookey, note that most of the North Natomas growth is not included). This is an urban city where most neighborhoods are either extremely wealthy or extremely poor...and that in the extremely poor areas, most of the adjacent poor areas are excluded from the city limits.
http://www.cityofsacramento.org/ns/your-neighborhood/maps-and-boundaries/documents/all_council8x11-c
olor.pdf
This is the most current map available from the City of Sacramento.
I don't hate Kevin Johnson, I realize he has tried, and he has done some good. But in the real world his attempts don't garner the same accolades as they do when presented by the basketball press and fans.
re: Johnson's Run
As to the broader point about Johnson in Oak Park, I think you're talking about 2 different approaches to changing a city. Wellspring, the Jesuit Volunteer Core, etc. interact directly and with immediacy with Oak Park. Johnson's intention was to change the culture of the community and to do what-for lack of some less inflammatory term-has been done in dozens of neighborhoods in dozens of bigger cities nationwide (the Mission District, Harlem, Los Feliz) and gentrify Oak Park. That doesn't mean overrunning the area with what you refer to, rather misguidedly, as "suburbanites," it does mean creating a sense of identity within Oak Park beyond it being the part of Broadway that people don't cross into. In order to do that you have to create incentive for people to come, can you think of any thriving neighborhood in Sacramento that doesn't traffic in people not exclusively from that neighborhood? That is why the 40 Acres Gallery and the work at Sac High and even the much maligned Starbucks in reality are so important. Because they reinvent the image of the place. In late December Charles Barkley held a question and answer and book signing session at 40 Acres; that a person like Barkley would spend any relevant time in Oak Park outside of a photo op seemed an impossibility a little less than a decade ago. Remember, along those same lines, the surprise Nas concert at the Colonial last year? And I think that speaks to the broader concern with Johnson. Not that he hasn't been effective, but that he has been effective and it begs the question why has he not done more. The issue with the properties reported by the Bee wasn't so much what had happened, it was why it had happened. Johnson has a reputation, deserved or not I don't know, for being a micro manager with an inherent inability to delegate. The more responsibility he has assumed, the general sentiment has been, the less oversight there is in his myriad of ventures. Consequently the Bee story just validated that to dozens of detractors. To me that's the bigger question with KJ running for Mayor. With the school, his Oprah appearances, his non profit, does he have time to lead this city? And more importantly does he have time to lead this city effectively? That we need a big picture Mayor doesn't change the reality that Sacramento asks said leader to make a lot of small picture decisions. Kevin Johnson instantaneously leads a level of credibility to this city Fargo doesn't, but if Johnson can't bring himself to care about a stoplight on H Street, that credibility only goes so far.
rbiegler
I look forward to reading more of your comments. I think that we see the same points but interpret the results differently. I really do appreciate your insights and will spend some time thinking about things from your perspective.
I suspect I look at it in a micro-economic way (i.e. how have you lifted the current community directly) vs. your macro outlook (i.e. how do you lift the neighborhood as a whole).
Gentrification and image isn't what I thought KJ intended in Oak Park, but that may simply have been my misunderstanding of his motives.
I may be misunderstanding your intent. I will re-read your thoughts with a clearer and less tired brain tomorrow...and maybe again on Sunday. You've given me a lot to think about.
I still think there's a big difference between hammering an opponent over moral/ethical lapses (good) and hammering an opponent with a terrible disease (bad). I have heard and read that there is a lot of resistance on the part of current politicians to face Fargo because of this. I've heard they are waiting for her to term out in four years. I have no idea if that's the real reason or not. If it is true, I still think KJ's candidacy brings all of them out of the woodwork to run against him and her.
Thanks again for providing much food for thought.
KK
by KK on Jan 25, 2008 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
Mayoral Race
I don't doubt he has questions to raise over his dealings with his Oak Park properties, Arnold had issues over his treatment of women but that didn't stop him
In reference to the Charter school and the critisism there teachers love to complain, its a hard job I know, but they whine, they always have and always will. Face it who wants to bash a teacher thats a hard battle to win PR wise
Interestingly enough Marcos Breton in his column two days ago, said that Mayor Fargo is conspicuos by her absense in council meetings to discuss budget cuts and that the report on the levies was also a current topic. How interesting that he seems involved in the KJ for Mayor story

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