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thanks for the videos

sounds like we have alot to be excited for

by Vp on Oct 2, 2008 8:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Douby training with the best

Paul Pierce, Baron Davis, Chauncey Billups. Hopefully, his passing improved. His career high for assists in a game is 3.

by rc360 on Oct 3, 2008 10:15 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Quincy

Doesn’t exactly inspire with his offseason commentary. He might want to hire a speaking coach. Let’s hope improvement shows up on the court though.

by thekangarooster on Oct 3, 2008 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I-Doubylieve!!!!!!!

For all you idiots that think i’m Quincy everytime I write post, i’m the highschool teamate he’s talking about that plays for Cal-State Fullerton. I hate when I stick up for my friends you got idiots on here that just want to assume i’m actually Quincy… By the way, didnt any of yall watch him in summer league? I mean I dont get why people on here continually put him down? I gurrante you he’ll prove his worth this season…

by JustaRealDude on Oct 3, 2008 1:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude

There were three comments before yours on this post: one said we have a lot to be excited about, one commended Q for his offseason work in Vegas, and the third noted he’s awkward on camera. When people jokingly refer to you as Quincy, it’s a joke. Because you’re supportive enough to come off like fam, which you are, in a way.

No one here dislikes Q. You think everyone would not be ecstatic if he came out gunnin’ in preseason?

by Ziller on Oct 3, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is a saying TZ

Common sense isn’t common….

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Oct 4, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good summer league

Quncy did have a good summer league, but that doesn’t mean much by itself. As a third year player, Quincy should dominate summer league.

The problem is that Qunicy is clearly a two and he’s got Kevin Martin in front of him. Francisco Garcia and Bobby Jackson (to some degree) will compete for and probably get minutes at that spot. So where and when does he play?

Qunicy is in a tough situation. He has a history with the team, warranted or not, as a guy who isn’t going to get minutes. His NBA shooting percentages are poor. I think Quincy should continue to say the right things and work as hard as he can as long as he’s a King. But unless there’s an injury, he’s probably going to have to prove himself somewhere else.

Shut up and Coach

by Carl on Oct 3, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Quincy Douby

Which is why I hope he lands somewhere else. He’s not going to beat out Martin, and he’s not a point guard. There just does not appear to be enough opportunity for him here.

Love the passion, JustaRealDude. Of course, I’m an idiot, so you probably have to take that into account.

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by section214 on Oct 3, 2008 4:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Section214 no pun intended with idiot reference. I didn’t mean it in a disrespectful sense. My theory is, Quincy is a part of the evolution of small guards in this league today. Especially in the western conference now. You got Ben Gordan, Gilbert Areanas, Allen Iverson,Jason Terry, Monte Ellis (who Quincy absolutely destroyed over the summer in a work out). Then you got rookies coming in like Russel Westbrook, OJ Mayo, Eric Gordan & SECTION214, no pun intended with the idiot comment. I really didnt meant it in disrespectful sense, im sorry. But just hear me out, here’s my theory on Quincy. Quincy ia a part of the evolution of undersized guards taking over this league. Especially in the western conference where you find alot of big name undersized guards playing on good teams. You got Jason Terry, Barbossa,Allen Iverson, Monte Ellis(who Quincy absolutely destroyed in a workout over the summer in Vegas) Ben Gordan, Gilbert Areanas, & Daniel Gibson. Then you got Russel Westbrook, Oj Mayo(overated & garbage)Jared Bayless, Eric Gordan & Dj Augustine who are rookies y’all all would of love to have & would of praised if they were drafted by the kings. Quincy is hands down a better scorer & defender than al those rookies y’all wanted. And he has the potiential to be just as good as Iverson, Areanas, Terry & Gordan. I wouldn’t count Ellis because I feel he’s a better player than Monte on both sides of the ball. Monte is just more athletic if you asked me. But all in all Quincy is a major sleeper in this league and y’all don’t even realize it. Y’all would accept any of those bigger name players that I mentioned over him & y’all don’t even realize he’s just as good as any of them & better than most of them.

by JustaRealDude on Oct 3, 2008 5:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Allen Iverson

was league MVP and led a team whose second highest scorer was Theo Ratliff to the Finals. I have the highest hopes for Douby, we have a special celebration at my house every time he enters the game, but he will never be Allen Iverson or Jason Terry or Gilbert Arenas or even Leandro Barbosa.

by passionforPERPS on Oct 3, 2008 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry I’m blogging from a iPhone right now so excuse to repeat in the message

by JustaRealDude on Oct 3, 2008 5:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok besides Iverson, please tell me why he couldn’t be just as good as Jason Terry, Leandro or Gilbert? None of those guys do anything more special than what Quincy can do. Quincy is a better defender than those guys hands down. And please don’t say he’s not cuz if you do then you crazy because those guys don’t pride themself on defense. Terry does. Little bit but that’s about it. Quincy is still young and can score with the best of them. But if you really break down all of these guys games, you can understand what I’m talking about. But I can’t expect people that really don’t play the game to understand that so it’s pointless trying to make a point on here. Y’all see a guy drop 30 and deem him a great player, but really analyze how he got that 30 points. OJ Mayo for instance. Ok yea he might of average 20 in college, but the man needed like 20-25 shots just to get that 20pts. The guy is overated but I can bey anything if the kings would of drafted him, y’all would be on here praising how great he is. It’s hard talking basketball with people that don’t really know the game

by JustaRealDude on Oct 4, 2008 10:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey,

I’m not even going to touch your comment that Quincy is as good as Gilbert Arenas. But I would like to point out that saying that people who don’t share your (perhaps biased?) opinion of Douby’s talent level are idiots, crazy, or don’t know the game is rude.

You’re entitled to have your opinion, and you know the guy, and we respect that he’s a friend. But don’t call the rest of us out because we disagree with you.

I think everybody would love to see him have a breakout season and really be able to help the team. But the fact of the matter is that he hasn’t yet proven that he’s that guy, regardless of what he showed in the guard-friendly, no defense, no pressure world of summer league this one year.

Again, I’d love to see him do well, but don’t tell me he’s as good as Barbosa, Arenas, or any of the other guys you named. If he was, he’d play, here or someplace else.

Let's go home.-Kevin Martin

by LeaguePassAddict on Oct 4, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually the player I'm glad the Kings did not get out of every single player the Kings could have drafted

if they were #1 was OJ Mayo. So in that sense you’re entirely wrong. But you probably won’t read this, so, well that is that.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Oct 4, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That of course doesn't include the fact that Mayo is a legit 6'5 without shoes

And Quincy doesn’t stand 6’5 with them. (I know he got long ass lanky arms, but I don’t care about that. I’m talking about height.)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Oct 4, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Originally Mayo didn't interest me

but then I read several articles about his work ethic. Granted, I’d have been pissed if he was taken #1, but at #3 or #4, he’s honestly a good pick. He’s never going to be a “smaller Lebron James” – but he can most definitely be an elite level shooting guard. Obviously, we’ve got that in the Kings, so yes – I guess I’m glad the Kings didn’t pick him.
Jason Thompson has me all sorts of weird forms of excited. I don’t know with that kid, he could either revolutionize the postion, or he could fall to the wayside as a mistake and be Brian Cook for the rest of his career. I’m staring at a royal flush draw after the turn, and all I want to do is go all in.

…yes, I’ve recently started playing massive amounts of Poker.

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by iashwash on Oct 5, 2008 2:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Play Spades

It’s a real game. Your points on Mayo could be astute. I think there is a possibility that the could become elite if he outgrows some of his childishness and work his ass off. That is always a strong possibility I suppose.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Oct 5, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

1. I appologized for the idiot comment. 2. Never said he’s as good as Areanas. I said he has the potiential. Nobody even thought Gilbert would of been that good. The dude wasnt even drafted first round. He went through the same stuff Quincy did before he hit stardom. Im not being biased at all. Im just saying, the guy has the ability to be just as good as any of them.

by JustaRealDude on Oct 4, 2008 12:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

man, do I hope your right

I really, really like Quincy – he seems like a nice kid, and I agree with your analysis of the progression of the smaller two guard (though I still think that size is king in the game today), and how Douby can really continue the mold.
However, your taking hypothetical ability and potential talent to extremes that Quincy might not be able to take them, not necessarily because he (as a player) isn’t good enough, but because of the facts of the situation.
 He’s a shooting guard. Worse: He’s a small shooting guard. Worse yet: He’s a small shooting guard on a team that just committed about 80 million dollars to two shooting guards (Martin and Frisco). Now he has to earn a spot in the line-up on a team that’s rebuilding, who would therefore be more willing to gamble on another, younger prospect rather than continue with something that hasn’t worked yet. Those are long odds, any way you stack them.
And sadly, those odds have been stacked against him. Not only did the team have too many 2s, it had not enough 1s during his first two years, and Quincy was therefore forced to be something he wasn’t. A combination of bad handles, weight, and inconsistency (in coaches, in playing time, in teammates, in his own play) all would make for a bad situation for a point guard, let alone a lifelong 2 learning to be an NBA 1.
So, now, the team has to find his position. The coach has to give him a role to determine whether they should extend him. But they have to do that while giving alot of other (more valuable) talent the time they need to develop. And they have to mantain a decent winning average. So, how to fit Qunicy in? From a critical management perspective, it is alot easier and less costly to scrap “The Douby Project” than it is to see it through. No one wants to see that happen, but that is the nature of the game.

We all know Douby’s potential. He broke the shooting record that Martin broke that Peja set. Thats why he’s on the team. But, he is by no stretch a Barbosa, an Ellis, a Gilbert nor a Terry. Why? Because while all those guys are small, they can all handle the ball and make basketball decisions – they can play the one. That gave them time to find their role in the league and blossom, minimizing the gamble (from the coaches perspective) of putting them at the two. However, Douby has not shown that – which isn’t a criticism, it just means that he is most assuredly a shooting guard. Which is why he is in the situation that he is in.

We love to hear your perspective, and as a good friend to many ball players, I can definitely understand your frustration with seeing Douby not get the burn you feel he deserves. But, please, don’t criticize our basketball understanding – apology accepted.

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by iashwash on Oct 4, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also IW

Garcia can play the 3 which is just compounding the list (I realize you were probably being nice in omitting this) of what Douby can’t do.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Oct 4, 2008 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and salmons can play the 2

et cetera et cetera, but yeah, your right in that there are even more reasons why Douby’s situation is particularly difficult for him to rise out of.

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by iashwash on Oct 4, 2008 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

IASHWASH i read everything you said and I totally respect your opinion an agree with you 100%. You really made alot sense with your statement for real.. But sorry to all I offended and I promise from now one I’m just going to be more careful with what I say on these bloggs. But all in all, i’m just really defending my friend. I grew up with dude and watch him go through soo much to get to the league, and I just want to see him succeed. I also want to see the team succeed and bring back the glory days they had during the early part of this decade so that Sacramento can have someone to really be happy about. I can gurrante one thing, we all having the common goal of seeing all of those players succeed and have a great season.

by JustaRealDude on Oct 4, 2008 9:06 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I think that it is fair to say

that everyone that posts here hopes that you are right about Quincy Douby.

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by section214 on Oct 4, 2008 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's equally true of Shelden Williams I suspect Section

Douby isn’t a troublemaker, and he isn’t a punk. He hasn’t complained, and he hasn’t gotten everything a young player needs to succeed. I hope he succeeds in the league, and it would be nice if it was in Sacramento. But we all know, unlike Shelden Williams who fills a dire need, Douby does not fill a dire need which hurts Reggie Theus in finding creative ways to get the most out of Quincy. A team like OKC Seattle would do well with a players like Douby and Westbrook provided Westbrook could handle the ball well enough.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Oct 5, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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