Quincy, We Hardly Knew Ye

by section214 on Oct 21, 2008 10:32 PM PDT in Commentary Comment 12 comments

My continuing series of dedicating way too much space on fringe players (you should have seen what I was working on for Noel Felix)-

I’ve come to praise Quincy Douby, not bury him. There will be no unibrow jokes here. JustaRealDude will not go nuts while reading this story.

Quincy Douby will not have his contract extended by the Kings. This is what happens a lot to players selected with the 19^th pick of a draft. Kevin Martin, Francisco Garcia, Gerald Wallace – those are supposed to be the exceptions. Quincy Douby is the rule.

A lot will be made of who the Kings could have drafted in 2006. Rajon Rondo was still available, as were Marcus Williams and Jordan Farmar. Daniel Gibson, Paul Millsap and Leon Powe were all 2^nd rounders. Sergio Rodriguez went late in the 1^st round, as it was known that he was going to stay overseas for at least a little while longer. But let’s dissect these players. Everybody passed on the 2^nd round players (some teams passed on them twice), so we’ll dismiss those as a crap shoot. Williams already wore out his welcome in New Jersey, and now word out of Golden State is that they are not particularly enamored of him. Farmar might have been a nice little fit for the Kings, at least earning the extension that Douby did not receive as a viable backup PG. Rondo? World champ, baby. But he may be the classic example of being in the right place at the right time. I mean, how does a guy barely average five assists a game when you’re playing with Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen? The guy can’t throw it in the ocean. Had he come here he may have gone the way of Orien Greene. Geoff Petrie doesn’t suffer poor shooting, no matter how well you defend (right 3-Wil? Right, She-Wil?).

All of that said, Quincy Douby is shaping up as Geoff Petrie’s weakest draft pick. And that’s a shame, because Quincy Douby just might be an NBA basketball player. When he is healthy and confident, he is a handful offensively. The perimeter shooting, the runners, the tear drop shots. This is a sixth man waiting to happen, instant scoring. But his health has been an issue, and he could not fill the role that Kings needed him to fill, that of backup point guard.

So at the end of this season, Quincy Douby will become a free agent, and that is great news for Quincy Douby. He will have the opportunity to go shopping. Maybe he can be the guy that gives Ray Allen the longer rest that he will most likely need in Boston. Maybe he could find a home with the Warriors after they tire of Cap’n Jack. How about New Jersey for the post-Vince Carter era? My bet is that Quincy Douby lands elsewhere, and perhaps even flourishes.

And I hope that he does succeed. Quincy Douby is a square peg that the Kings tried to pound into a round hole, and he never complained, and he always tried. He’s a nice guy, and seemingly a good teammate. It’s impossible not to root for him.

One more year of table scrap minutes, Quincy. And then perhaps then you can launch your career. Good luck and good health.

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Nice

Well thought out and well presented. Nothing really to add, other than I hope Q makes the front office regret this decision.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Oct 21, 2008 10:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Great post

You absolutely covered everything I was thinking. Very nicely done.

Shut up and Coach

by Carl on Oct 21, 2008 11:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Quincy can flat out score. I don’t follow college basketball much but I did get to see him tear up my St. Mary’s Gael’s defense better than any other player I’d ever seen before (including Adam Morrison). I feel the main problem with Quincy is that we already have a player who does everything he does but much better and much more efficient. I don’t even have to mention his name. Quincy’s chance with the Kings was to make it at back up point guard. Unfortunetly it wasnt meant to be. I feel he could be a nice fit with some other teams in the league looking for a back court scoring punch off the bench. His defense hasn’t been terrible either. With Garcia and Martin, I just don’t think there is room for Quincy in the King’s future. I feel he can be a better Eddie House at some point in his career. He’ll never be a starter but he could fill an important role for a team.

by Ball in Cup on Oct 22, 2008 1:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

SECTION 214, I AAPLAUD YOU!!!!

Section 214, this was a well thought out article for real.. It’s unfortunate they made that decision but everything happens for a reason. Sometimes things like this work in players favors because they usually play better during a contract season. But I really loved the article, you did a great job. I emailed it to Quincy and he kinda felt good reading it, knowing the fans still appreciate him.. Sometimes he wonders if he’s even good enough to be in the NBA., and reading little articles like this motivates him alot. And I appreciate the shout out in the article too.. LoL

by JustaRealDude on Oct 22, 2008 3:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

The draft,

is such a crapshoot, I don’t know wow you can criticize this teams management, when clearly they have a tremendous track record in the draft.

by mattman on Oct 22, 2008 10:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Quincy < Farmar, Rondo, And A Guy Named Boobie

On draft night the world saw a guy who was 6’3" and weighed 175 pounds get drafted by the Kings. This unibrowed skelitor is, was, and never will be a true point guard. He was drafted at the beginning of the dreadful Mussleman Era with a Kings team that desperately did not have a point guard to back up Mike Bibby. So why would Petrie, in his infinite wisdom, draft someone who was going to have to change his natural position based on his limited size in the NBA? Reason: The dude can shoot. Just like the majority of Kings Draft picks within the past decade, Petrie picked a young talent based on his skills as natural scorer. The draft picks of Martin, Garcia, Stojakovic, Turkoglu, and even Thompson and Hawes are not coincidental in the least. These proven scorers are drafted by design and strategy which snowballed the success of the glory years of Sacramento and should (by design) lead us to the next generation of triumph.

So why was Quincy such a monumental failure of a draft pick? First, Petrie not only passed up on better players, which he did, but he passed up on better point guards in the draft. The Kings have been in desperate need for a true point guard since the 2006 draft and they passed on NBA Finals point guards Jordan Farmar and Rajon Rondo as well as a guy who was in the Eastern Conference Championship named Boobie (His name Daniel Gibson, I just enjoy writing out the name Boobie).

Second, Douby never showcased his skills as a scorer like Geoff has envisioned. On occasion he teased Kings Fans with a few high scoring games and a handful of nifty blocks and steals but he was consistently inconsistent with his play. That unpredictable style of play will not stand if you are Geoff Petrie. Just ask Jason Williams, Cuttino Mobley, or even Nick Anderson (Yeah… that was a Nick Anderson reference!) GP relies on solid players and Dr. Q just couldn’t hold his own.

I could sugarcoat this, but the Doubster just isn’t worth it. Quincy is a well mannered kid from Queens New York. But the bottom line is that he is too weak to play in the NBA. This preseason was supposed to showcase the young man hungry for a chance in the big time NBA. Under that pressure, injury barring Quincy Douby proved that he could not demonstrate what it takes to make it. Most would agree that this hometown hero would get posted up by Vincent Chase in Queens Boulevard if the opportunity arouse. Quincy Douby is going to look fantastic in a Clipper jersey. Happy trails Dr. Q!

by the3rdK-Mart on Oct 22, 2008 10:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

If everyone knew that these types of people would be such great players,

they would have been picked in the top ten, they weren’t because we did not know how good they would actually be.

by mattman on Oct 22, 2008 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

But we NEEDED a point guard...

and Petrie took the gamble for a scorer vs. the need for a point guard. That gamble was a definite loss.

by the3rdK-Mart on Oct 22, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That actually is irrelevant,

Did we need a 3 guard when we picked Wallace, Turkolu, or Cisco? The answer to that question is absolutely not. When you are doing a draft you tend to take the player you think will be the best, obviously Quincy was the thought by our scouting department and Geoff. Furthermore, I believe that when drafted Quincy was thought of as drafting a point guard because Geoff thought it would be a easy transition for him.

by mattman on Oct 22, 2008 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mattman

I think you would be hard pressed to find a StR regular who doesn’t agree that Petrie is an excellent GM. 214 didn’t criticize the team’s management, as you suggested; in fact, he went out of his way to make the point that you just repeated about everyone underestimating some of the talent in that draft. The closest he came to criticism was to say that Douby looks like Petrie’s weakest pick, a dubious (hehe) distinction that someone has to bear.

And the point about drafting a PG is completely valid. I think Douby is going to become a successful NBA player, but any time a first-round draft pick can’t get regular minutes it has to be viewed as a failure. We passed on guys at needed positions (PG, PF, C) for a skinny scoring guard, something we had an abundance of. And as far as Wallace and Turkoglu are concerned, they are both excellent examples of contradictions to your point. Those two are talented players who were picked despite the fact that the SF position was well filled, and now they are both talented players flourishing on other teams.

by furious.d on Oct 22, 2008 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Its not over yet

Q will stll be a restricted FA next year. This could be a break-out year – who knows?

I wish him the best.

Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !

by lietothegirls on Oct 27, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

My point is

Q needs one last look. He has improved since last year. Let’s wait and see what he can do this year before writing him off. My guess is we will see a much more matured player. With Cisco out a couple of weeks, hopefully Quincy can come back and get some of those minutes.

by KingsFan on Oct 22, 2008 11:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs