A Good Sign for Quincy Douby
by Tom Ziller on Oct 6, 2008 8:00 PM PDT
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PrintThe Bee's Melody Gutierrez has a quick mention of what Reggie Theus is saying about Quincy Douby. It sounds good.
Douby has been recovering from a right ankle sprain since Friday. Theus said Douby's injury followed a great performance at training camp.
"Offensively, we know what he can do," Theus said. "The way we've been playing better suits him. But, defensively, he's been pretty good. It's unfortunate that he twisted his ankle the other day, but he's been good on both ends of the court."
Last year, Douby's defense seemed much more consistent than his offense. His length really bothers the opposing attacker at times, and he had a few nutty blocks on the perimeter. Of course, staying in front of the attacker and making the correct decisions on screen-rolls ... that's more important than getting a piece of one out of every 100 shots. Hopefully, that's the improvement Theus is talking about, because that's what will allow Theus to keep Douby on the floor to work out the kinks in his in-game shooting.
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One of the things I always loved about Rick Adelman
Was that he tended to say positive things about young players like Douby and the like. He didn’t always say at it times when people noticed, and I’m glad you pointed out Reggie’s mention, even a small one, because mostly Reggie hasn’t had any negative aspects of training camp this year. Which is in, to contrast of last year, a tremendous upgrade for a head coach.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Yeah
put this with comments about K9 and he seems to have learned something about how a coach should deal with the media. It’s a good sign.
Regarding Douby. I like him, but unfortunately I don’t see him getting more than 5-6 minutes a game, no matter how well he does in camp. There just aren’t enough minutes. There’re 144 minutes do divide between PG, SG, and SF. Figure 94 minutes to the 3 starters, that leaves 50. 25 go to Cisco. That leaves 25 minutes for BJax, Greene and Douby to split up. Figure 15 for Jax, and 5 each for Greene and Douby.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 6, 2008 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't forget about Brown
And I agree that Reggie is doing a better job keeping his feet out of his mouth this season.
Shut up and Coach
I don't think Brown will make the active
roster. Starting 5 + Cisco, Jax, Greene, JT, Sheldon, Hawes and Douby makes 12. K9 and Brown are inactive.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 6, 2008 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Miller is inactive for the first five
So Brown will be around at least that long. I also don’t see spot for him unless something happens, but I kind of see something happening – just don’t know what.
Shut up and Coach
Baseball bats?
That would lead to Jim Kozimor being the new play by play guy.
I’m kidding. The appropriate response to Peaches is duct tape rather than baseball bats. Lots of duct tape.
Shut up and Coach
Does google work at all in that equation?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Turnovers and Rebounding
the two things that the Kings and Reggie want to change. Bobby Brown is as close to a real point guard as we’ve had since Bobby Hurley. No way Reggie sits Brown on inactive. If Beno gets hurt who would you rather take over the point Cisco, BJax or Brown. I vote Brown.
I know everyone thinks that Reggie favors vets, but he’s already given notice to Mikki that he needs to increase his rebounds if he wants to stay in as a starter. Advantage, anyone who doesn’t turn over the ball or can rebound.
Amick just posted a possible starting lineup of Hawes, Moore, Salmon, Cisco & Beno, which should give us some clues. Who backs up Hawes- JT? Who backs up Mikki- Shelden? Who backs up Beno- Brown? Who backs up Cisco- BJax or Jones? Who backs up Salmons- Greene"?
The basketball may be a little ruff, but the substitutions should be very interesting.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
Over and Under of the Inactive List
Through the first 5 games the over/under is above 60- combined ages of inactive players. After 5 games the over/under could be anywhere. We have an abundance of players that play more than one position. So, excluding trades or injuries, I’d have to guess it will be Shelden or Moore, or Greene’, or BJax. My reasoning is that they reach will be the 3rt of 4th on the depth chart for their positions.
If we’re going to want to see what the rookies can do, your going to want to see Greene’ & Brown. Even if Mikki loses his starting job he can still back up PF & C. Everyone knows that I have very high hopes for Shelden. Soooooooooo, I see BJax cheering from the expensive seats.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
Underestimating Douby
Reggie likes shooters who can defend and Douby is that. Yea, I know he’s too short and bigger guards can get up and shoot over him. Well, I’d rather have the opponent shooting fade away jumpers than driving past our guys for a layup or easy feed under the rim.
Douby brings the same thing as BJax or at least the BJax of old. Their both quick and score quicker. So, todays BJax vs Douby, I say advantage Douby. Besides Theus has no history with Bobby like Kings fans.
Tomorrows game will be interesting in that Martin & Douby may no play. So, who starts at SG? If Reggie starts Cisco he has to bring in Greene’ who is still Greene’ defensively. He sould start BJax, but don’t be surprised if Bobby Jones see’s minutes before Bobby Jackson.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
Reggie likes the
vets. Also I think Jax will be our #2 PG. Cisco will split time backing up Martin and Salmons with the left over minutes at the 3 going to Greene and at the 2 going to Douby.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 6, 2008 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
NOt to be contrarian
But name me a coach who won’t give a vet the nod over a young pup on reputation alone?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
A desperate coach
One that wasn’t able to win consistently with the vets he had last year. A coach who may be in the last year of his contract. A coach who’s done hiding behind cliche’s and willing to take a stand. The question is do any of these discribe Theus.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
Desperate? Not quite
Hiding behind cliche’s? Taking a stand. Whoa these are hard concepts for me at 840 am. I’m going to stick with distributive properties.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I don't understand
how you are being contrary when you state a generalization of my specific point. For example: If I say California test scores are declining and you respond with test scores are declining in every state, you are not stating a contrary position.
Maybe you think that my statement was intended as a criticism of Reggie and you were defending him, but my statement was not a criticism, it was a defense of my playing time allocation. I could have said most, if not all coaches will favor the veteran. But most coaches don’t coach our team.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Oct 7, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Well there are some that might view that
I knew you are aware that most coaches favor vets, but I was simply pointing it out for posterity. Larry Brown plays vets too. Vet’s do have their purpose in the NBA after all. It’s one reason many stick around in a league where 30 new players are guaranteed spots on a roster.
I don’t know if you were criticizing Reggie or not, and I don’t care to be honest Kfan. I was just saying that the “playing vets” angle is a typical one amongst a NBA coach overall. That’s why I’m not really sure pointing it out in Reggie’s case has much to do with either here or there.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Reggie's changin?
Theus made two comments I find interesting. In an interview he said that he still stands by the statement that the players determine playing time by how they practice. Then he added with a smile that he might be hiding behind the statement.
Then the other day he said he was looking forward to the new offense so that the guys weren’t going to keep looking to him, and he wouldn’t have to call so many plays.
Are we seeing a more open an honest Reggie? Miller see’s a change in the way he drives them at practice. More understanding when their tired, I think was the jest of his statement.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
Doobs
I dunno, I feel like this kid can be an asset. He can shoot, even if it hasn’t always been evident in games. The defensive effort is there, and he’s built to present a mismatch for opposing offenses. I agree with what hightops said, if Cisco isn’t around, Douby is probably an instant-energy gangbusters sixth man type.
I just don’t know how he’s going to get minutes on this team, and it’s too bad. I feel like if he could get some solid minutes, he’d produce. He’s not a Gerald Wallace kind of talent, but if/when he goes, you just know he’s going to stick it to you when you face him.
Alas, you can’t keep everyone.
In conclusion, I haven’t really said anything.
Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.
You've said nothing
And yet you’ve said it all. Agreed 100%. I like Douby. I loooove Kevin Martin. There’s the rub.
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by section214 on Oct 6, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Quincy nice trade bait to remove the dog pound from the presence of the EC vicinity?
One can hope for that can’t we?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
One idea that comes to midn
Even though I despise every fiber of his being, trading for Antoine Walker, and buying him out so all you pay his remaining salary for this season, and not for the 2 seasons that any team would have the option of not paying him had they kept his contract all year. For the right of getting rid of Kenny Thomas and having to include Quincy Douby is there a worse thing than that?
Well, Walker’s mouth would be my biggest thing. I don’t know if peace should have a dollar amount, but they might consider any trade of Thomas to be upsetting that very valuable peace they for the most part have at the moment.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I know I'm ashamed to say that
But there is worse out there than Kenny Thomas. I was just pointing out, yet again, why trades can be so difficult to accomplish.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
My gut
Is telling me that Douby will have a “break-out” year this season. I hope I’m right. I don’t know if that means he will become a 20 minute per game player or that he will just see marked improvement, but I feel good about him this season for some reason.
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20 a game?
Not at the 2. KMart is good for at least 35 a night.
Not at the 1. Please, please, please, not at the 1.
Not at the 3. Too small to defend any other 3 in the league, too small to shoot over them.
I don’t see it.
Let's go home.-Kevin Martin
by LeaguePassAddict on Oct 7, 2008 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't have
a clue. Depends on Reggie.
I’d rather see Bobby B get minutes – if he’s up to it – than BobbyJ .
I’d rather see Anyone get minutes than KennyT (I’ve seen ENOUGH)
I’d still look to trade Mikke early (sorry Mikki!) if the kids seem to have a reasonable game.
eternal skeptical optimist
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