The Difference Aggression Makes
If there's a common thread among Sacramento's successes (in the win column and on an individual basis) this season, it's aggression. Spencer Hawes has been a marvel because he has been really aggressive. He attacks the rim on both ends, coming up with more blocks than we dreamt and a highlight putback slam nightly. (See below.) Jason Thompson's entire paint presence is predicated on pure aggression. He fills the lane on guard penetration like a bulky Mikki Moore. He pounds the boards from absurd angles, inserting himself into action he hasn't been invited to. Kevin Martin's season turned to the black when he started attacking in transition, stabbing through the passing lanes and darting to the rim in the half-court.
Beno Udrih had the best game of his career because he decided he's a rocket, not a ballistic missile. He hit plenty of outside shots against the Clippers -- six of nine jumpers further than 15 feet, according to this shot chart from ESPN.com. Two other shots came from 13-15 feet, just inside the foul line. One (the make) was an aborted drive, the other (the miss) a curl off a high Brad Miller screen. But nine other FGAs came in the lane, within eight feet. That's aggression. That's taking the action to the opponents, and not meekly acceding to their position.
It seems simplistic and clichéd to say that "you have to take the fight to the enemy," but it's so true in the NBA. It can be trouble at times -- John Salmons learned that with four of his 19 shots blocked -- but in total, with these NBA rules in place and this style at the throne, aggression rules. Look at Boston. On both ends of the ball, the Celtics were constantly the more aggressive team throughout last season, from the opening tip to the final whistle. An attacking mentality counts for a whole lot of beads right now ... especially in November when (cliché alert, one more time) a lot of players aren't really in kill mode.
Of course, one game of aggression doesn't a season make. A 30/7 night shouldn't have us building statues -- how many times did Mike Bibby drop 30 on a mediocre team? I don't profess to insist Beno can be so good 30/7 is more worth a golf clap than a "ZOMG!!1" -- that's Kevin Martin business -- but he should be better than he has been, which would make 30/7 look less like a "Tony Delk goes for 50" and more like a "Brad Miller gets a double-double." I want 30/7 to be inside the realm of potential possibility any night. For that to happen, Beno's game-to-game scoring needs to be stronger and he can't follow up a 7-assist game with only one or two dimes in the next match. Beno needs to be more good more often. A few exclamatory outbursts might have gotten him a contract, but it's not going to get the Kings to .500 forever.

There's another storyline dealing with aggression here: Jason Thompson, and his relationship with Reggie Theus. In the second half, with the Clippers surging, the Kings inbounded the ball. The spacing was awful on the right elbow. Salmons had the ball, and Brad Miller was trying to set a high screen or something. I don't know. It was bizarre. Thompson was parked in the post, strong side. He had (I believe) Al Thornton on his back. Salmons didn't get the ball to him, and it ended with a lost possession on the wing. The camera zoomed in on Theus. You could hear him. "I told you to pass the [expletive deleted] ball inside! How [expletive deleted] difficult is that?" Theus can scream. He's not a screamer, really, but he can SCREAM. And while I never saw Salmons much in his days under Larry Brown in Philadelphia, I'm not sure he's ever been yelled at like that in any empty(ish) gym with the cameras on and at least one rookie on the court. Luckily, Salmons' cover rang down to the opposite wing, so Salmons wasn't within 30 feet of Theus. Had it been different, someone might have punched the other. A King hasn't been dressed down publicly like that since Ron Artest told Beno to "give him the [expletive deleted] ball" in the middle of an offensive possession in the middle of last season.
I've gone off track. The point: Thompson came out in the third quarter pounding the Clippers. POUNDING them. In the first six minutes of the quarter, Thompson had four points and three rebounds. His eyes were dancing. His fingers were tingling. He was physically seething. ... And Theus wanted the ball in his hands. He was as furious as he has been in 13 months because Thompson didn't get the ball. Salmons is a good great teammate, and a quiet, hard-working dude. And Theus wanted to crush him because he couldn't get Thompson the ball.
I personally made a huge deal out of Theus' ridiculous pro-Artest rant last April, in which the coach insisted that without Ron the Kings had no one "to give the ball to." I have moved past the absurd semantic debate -- we all have. It was an unfortunate blip that helped no one or nothing. But Theus insisted in the aftermath that his point was that you need to be able to pound the ball inside to someone to relieve pressure on the guards. It's a fair point. Martin has never had a post player to receive kick-outs from. (I think Artest had an assist on a post kick-out to Martin once, maybe twice last season.) Beno doesn't have that. Salmons hasn't had that.
Now, they have that. Thompson is your proverbial "get the ball to" player. For all his warts, Theus doesn't discriminate based on Thompson's age or lack of flawless execution. JT has lit up the coach's eyes and, in theory, made Theus' (still confusing and unfinished) system come to life. The Kings needed a bucket, and Theus demanded that Thompson get it. That's a reward for the aggression Thompson showed, and it's a sign that there needs to be more aggression.
Thompson and Hawes get the point. Udrih understood, if only for one night. You know Martin knows, and Salmons was aggressive but not smart in L.A. That's five players, folks. That unending search for identity ... could it be that Theus' motif revolves around taking the fight to the opponent, making yourself the aggressor?
We'll see over the next few months.
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I know it doesn't matter...
…but I Rec’d this anyway.
Great read.
by smgmatt on
Nov 13, 2008 8:51 AM PST
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Brilliant points cuz I'm doing the same (rec'd)
We’re all saying the same thing at this point. It’s nice to have active, tough options. Reading through some of Theus’ comments was that it was clear this team needed to have an option that Theus felt he could rely on down low. Regardless of how you feel about Kevin, he isn’t that guy. (Which is not to say Kevin isn’t one of the 2 most valuable players on this team. Because he is.) Jt and his ability to get the ball and make team’s pay for mismatches, well that’s not always easy to do. It’s easy to talk about, but as Al Thornton proved last night, quickness is not necessarily all it takes to exploit a matchup. It’s knowing how you want to exploit it, and the Clippers are rudderless. (I wonder if any of that has to do with MDsr at this point.)
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by pookeyguru on
Nov 13, 2008 8:56 AM PST
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Agreed
Doing the rec thing even though it doesn’t matter, great read.
Love that Theus is now an advocate for JT to have the ball in his hands. Can’t ask for much more out of a guy who has been blasted for a lack of developing the younger players. Drastic change.
And 4-5 always somehow feels better than 3-6. Long road ahead, but we’re moving along.
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by Exhibit G on
Nov 13, 2008 9:09 AM PST
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Rec'd for this statement alone
Love that Theus is now an advocate for JT to have the ball in his hands. Can’t ask for much more out of a guy who has been blasted for a lack of developing the younger players. Drastic change.
Bingo!
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by pookeyguru on
Nov 13, 2008 9:10 AM PST
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Love that Theus is now an advocate for JT to have the ball in his hands.
Mikki Moore can’t remain the starter at Power Forward much longer.
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by Carl on
Nov 13, 2008 10:54 AM PST
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Following up
Thompson’s per 36 minute numbers are 17 and 10. Those numbers are just ridiculous for a relative unknown taken number 12. Can he possibly keep it up? We’re going to find out.
On a related note, Hawes is at 16 and almost 10 rebounds, with 2.6 blocks. Bobby Brown is shooting 53% on both twos and on threes. Even Shelden Williams is averaging 12 and 10 per 36 minutes.
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by Carl on
Nov 13, 2008 11:00 AM PST
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Youth is served Carl
Tally HO! (i love the fact Bobby Brown is 14th!!!!! in David Thorpe’s rookie rankings. This is a much bigger deal than where JT rates.)
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by pookeyguru on
Nov 13, 2008 11:03 AM PST
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Brown
Especially when you consider that he wasn’t even listed on Thorpe’s first several rankings.
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by section214 on
Nov 13, 2008 3:12 PM PST
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Excellent point
(I’m still wondering why the Hornets wouldn’t offer him what the Kings did.)
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by pookeyguru on
Nov 13, 2008 3:33 PM PST
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Other shoe theory
Bill Simmons used to write about the “other shoe theory”. He compared it to when you’ve got a girlfriend, but you’re constantly waiting for the other shoe to drop. You know that something terrible could happen or will happen, but you don’t know when. So sometimes teams shy away from players because they fear that the other shoe could drop at any time.
Either that or they just blew it.
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by Exhibit G on
Nov 13, 2008 6:02 PM PST
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This begs for some research Ex G
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by pookeyguru on
Nov 13, 2008 6:12 PM PST
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You guys must have heard of all the Shenannigans he and Whitney have gotten into
Napear: "Going in to the final timeout what did the coach tell you?"
Bibby: "I asked the coach if I should go and he said, I don't really know what he said."
by kangsfan on
Nov 14, 2008 12:36 AM PST
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I'm optimistic
because what Thompson does is the sort of thing he should be able to do regardless of the quality of the opposition: He’s 6-11, strong, active, aggressive, tough and with good hands. He goes for rebounds and has the athleticism to get them.
Also, based on his 20 second post-game interview last night on LA local TV, I get the impression he’s smart, mature and can talk about the game in a heady, coach’s kid type of way. I think he’s very impressive.
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by Holmdel on
Nov 13, 2008 11:05 AM PST
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If he gets a left hand
Around the basket, look out.
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by otis29 on
Nov 13, 2008 11:12 AM PST
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Indeed
While I also am skeptical to this theorized “system” that Theus may or may not have, I very much encourage his play of our two young bigs. I have to think that as long as he at least has the ears and eyes of his players, and a discernable direction, we can keep feeding him some wiggle room with regards to wins and losses.
I think at this point we can say that the last few games – even withing K-Mart – have been a success, with some of that being claimable by Theus.
At this point, all we can hope is that we keep cruising.
by Citadel 29 on
Nov 13, 2008 8:54 AM PST
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See my comment below
He’s still trying to ‘sell it’ as TZ gets at.
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by lietothegirls on
Nov 13, 2008 9:21 AM PST
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Nicely done TZ
As an aside, I was gandering at Beno’s stats – last night was Beno’s 66th career start. Take a look at his numbers as a starter:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3845/splits?year=career&type=Fielding
Not too damn bad. 13.7 points, 4.8 assist (2 to 1 assist to turnover ratio), and 3.3 rebounds in just over 33 minutes per game. Shooting 47.9% from the field and 40% from three.
For an offense with great wing scorers and emerging post players, and with Brad running the offense a good portion of the time, I think these numbers are perfect from our PG.
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by otis29 on
Nov 13, 2008 8:57 AM PST
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ClipperSteve had some harsh feelings
And frankly, I don’t blame him.
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by pookeyguru on
Nov 13, 2008 9:00 AM PST
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Man, I thought we could be depressing.
Going through the comments on that thread is downright depressing, but its hard to be optimistic with a 1-9 start and losing to a K-Martless Kings.
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by moproblemz on
Nov 13, 2008 11:02 AM PST
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They're 1-7 homes
But nonetheless, that is all very true. And wouldn’t you be depressed if you’re a clipps fan right now?
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by pookeyguru on
Nov 13, 2008 11:04 AM PST
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Right now?
They’ve made the playoffs twice in the last 15 years. They’ve won 40+ twice and 30+ 6 times in the last 15 years. Ouch.
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by Kfan in Korea on
Nov 13, 2008 11:39 AM PST
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And one of those 40+ years was the year they went 41-41
2 years ago with Brand, and the other time was 3 years ago when they made the Western Semi’s vs the Suns and lost in 7 games.
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by pookeyguru on
Nov 13, 2008 11:46 AM PST
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Theus is trying to teach the vets
That there really are some low post options now, its hard as they just weren’t ther the last few years and thhey just aen’t used to it.
Theus is right I think. If they figure it out it will make things easier for the wings. ADD to thier scoring chances at other points in the game.
He’s trying to build faith in a complete inside/out game.
Good luck to him. I do believe he’s right.
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by lietothegirls on
Nov 13, 2008 9:03 AM PST
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Having Martin & Garcia will make this easier too
People are missing how valuable Cisco is to this team. It’s amazing they’re 4-5 without him, and with Martin/Miller been gone for 7 of the 9 games.
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by pookeyguru on
Nov 13, 2008 9:06 AM PST
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Agree
And we are all pretty happy with JTs play, but Spencer has shown the potential to be a prolific scorer in the low post as well. That’s about 1.5 more options than we’ve had the last few years (Ron-Ron’s occasionaly forays into the paint aside).
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by otis29 on
Nov 13, 2008 9:08 AM PST
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Yep
I’m starting to get very encouraged about this teams growth curve. I really do think over .500 is in reach the way hawes and JT are playing.
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by lietothegirls on
Nov 13, 2008 9:12 AM PST
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TZ complains a bit about Theus' offense system
I get it and agree but I think what we’re seeing is that Theus, just in the last five games is changing what they talked about in pre-season, he’s realized his options have changed and is re-tooling the offense ‘on the fly’.
He never expected he’d have these real low post options Hawes and JT are providing, at least not this soon.
Go baby, go!
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by lietothegirls on
Nov 13, 2008 9:31 AM PST
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It's called adjusting to your talent necessarily
Not having Martin or Cisco changes a lot of things for Reggie too.
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by pookeyguru on
Nov 13, 2008 9:34 AM PST
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Yes of course, but more than that
Options, options he didn’t know he’d have.
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by lietothegirls on
Nov 13, 2008 9:40 AM PST
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Or options he didn't know he'd have right away
But I agree, he’s doing what he must to reflect the type of talent he has on the team, and the atittude/style the team needs to play with too. None of these things are necessarily criticisms either.
Lots of coaches continue to play a style with personnel that aren’t suited for. At least Reggie’s TRYING to win with what he’s got.
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by pookeyguru on
Nov 13, 2008 9:42 AM PST
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Last night's game
This was one of the few games I’ve been able to watch from start to finish this season, and it reiterated just how damn hard it is to win on the road in the NBA.
There was not one single moment in that game where I thought the Clippers were the better team, or had outplayed the Kings for any significant stretch of time. But there were the Clippers, in the 4th quarter, only 2 points down, because they suddenly got hot from the 3 point line.
That’s why it takes HUGE coconuts for a team to be plus .500 on the road in this league. Road games are a grind, and the home team almost always makes a run.
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by otis29 on
Nov 13, 2008 9:06 AM PST
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Making it more impressive
Is the Kings missing Cisco & Kmart and the game was the 2nd of a b2b.
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by pookeyguru on
Nov 13, 2008 9:11 AM PST
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I can see
Why the posters at the Clippers blog are discouraged. All the factors you mentioned, plus the Clips were on a homestand and had two days of rest…yeesh.
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by otis29 on
Nov 13, 2008 9:15 AM PST
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Kaman
wants out of there, out of the big city . . . .
Thats never good.
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by lietothegirls on
Nov 13, 2008 9:16 AM PST
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We considered ourselves a playoff contention team....
…now I’m in line with those who think we are lottery bound.
by Newtybar on
Nov 13, 2008 9:36 AM PST
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Yes
They came out mad, aggressive because they felt they should have beaten the Pistons (I’m not so sure, I think a veteran team showed itself) – ya gotta love it.
But they certainly COULD have beaten them, and down two of your first seven, I thought it was great and I thought last night was a great answer.
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by lietothegirls on
Nov 13, 2008 9:15 AM PST
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Congrats to you guys for gutting this out....
Your guys showed some heart last night, something the Clips seem to be lacking. On Clips Nation we were already counting you guys out as an easy win…a “given.” We’ve made excuses for our team all season and you guys showed us what we are really worth…nada.
I see a lot of potential in your new guys. Whoever had the vision to pick Jason Thompson out at 12, needs a solid pat on the back. Kid can play.
by Newtybar on
Nov 13, 2008 9:34 AM PST
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I'm willing to bet
That Geoff Petrie (Prez of Operations/GM), Wayne Cooper (Assistant GM), Jerry Reynolds (Direcror of Player Personnel—his basketball position—he’s better known as the analyst on TV), and Scotty Stirling (Head Scout) probably all had a lot of input in the decision. I’m also willing to bet that regardless of who was on the board at 12, Thompson had to be 1 or 2 on the list.
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by pookeyguru on
Nov 13, 2008 9:41 AM PST
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Yep, JT is looking good
When he was picked, there was a collective “WTF” around here, but Geoff Petrie’s track record of success in the draft seems to be playing out again.
Good luck to your Clips, hopefully that team can get it together. On paper, they have way too much talent to be a lower-tier lottery team.
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by otis29 on
Nov 13, 2008 9:42 AM PST
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Clippers will get it together
There’s too much talent on the Clippers for them not to be competitive. I haven’t watched the games, so I can’t point to the problem, but that team will get better.
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by Carl on
Nov 13, 2008 11:05 AM PST
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The Obvious Factor in Last Night's Win (<- sarcasm)
Jason Hart DNP-CD
Brian Skinner DNP-CD
by #12Pick...who? on
Nov 13, 2008 9:52 AM PST
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That doesn't always translate
Brand leaving, kaman wanting out, If they don’t believe – they won’t win.
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by lietothegirls on
Nov 13, 2008 2:24 PM PST
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A couple of notes:
Beno’s abnormally stellar production feels like more of a fluke than something he can reproduce on a consistent basis. He had the hot hand tonight, but as a scoring point guard is something that can easily come and go; the vast majority of his shots came off longish jumpers, which are shots that can turn into misses with a little extra defense or a shooter suddenly getting cold.
Beno isn’t really much of a distributor, which has always been my big problem with him. I really wish he’d dedicate himself to finding ways to create shots for other guys, but it seems like Salmons (with his interior drives since he’s exceedingly creative at getting into the lane and isn’t afraid of contact) and Miller (with his playmaking ability from the post) are the only ones that can run any kind of offense.
Also, Donte Greene also looked pretty decent on the offensive end but I can see what Reggie meant when he mentioned his lack of defensive awareness; he makes a lot of mistakes on that end. It’s still great to see him getting out on the court (especially since he’s a lot more of an SF than Jason is), since it’s obvious he has potential to be a special player.
by jeremy548 on
Nov 13, 2008 10:11 AM PST
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Your points on Beno are well taken
I have a man crush on the guy, but this is one stellar game – for the remainder of the season he has been anywhere from average to terrible.
But, he’s still a young point guard, with less than a year’s experience as a starter. I’d like to think that a Beno-Bobby Brown PG tandem will at the very least plug one hole we won’t need to worry about down the road. We just need good solid play from that position, and not necessarily a distributor as long as the offense is predominantly run out of the high post OR if we end up with more of a post-up oriented offense.
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by otis29 on
Nov 13, 2008 10:16 AM PST
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I'd like to see Beno...
…be a consistent scoring threat who made very few turnovers and looked to get it into the post. I think that is realistic.
I don’t think he’ll ever be much more dynamic a distributor.
The thing I think he needs to focus his effort on is being a less vulnerable defender and being in physically top shape to limit injury absences.
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by Holmdel on
Nov 13, 2008 11:02 AM PST
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I think those are fair honest & realistic sentiments
Which is probably why I’m dreaming about Mike Conley at this point, because I’m becoming cynical the Kings can ever get a shot at Ricky Rubio.
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by pookeyguru on
Nov 13, 2008 11:05 AM PST
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I'm not sure where I read it, but it sounds like Conley could be availible at some point.
Mayo is becoming their cornerstone player; they would prefer a non distributing PG that compliments Mayo and allows him to hold the ball while still being effective. In that regard someone like Beno who can create on his own and is not a big distributor could be a good guardmate for Mayo.
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by moproblemz on
Nov 13, 2008 11:12 AM PST
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What I said in my Mikki lotto balls fanpost Mo
In fact I said that exact very thing. (We on the same wavelength mayne!)
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by pookeyguru on
Nov 13, 2008 11:18 AM PST
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Good points
Beno’s niche is going to be to get in the lane and get easy buckets – and to bust his outside shots. I think he can be a traditional point guard and initiate the offense for periods of time, but that’s not his strength right now.
I thought his defense was passable last night. He worked extremely hard to come off screens and stay with Baron. But you can see his defensive limitations…he’s not Mike Bibby, but he ain’t gonna be Gary Payton either.
But (here comes the man crush talking), how do we know this is all the kid can be? There’s always the possibility that he evolves and improves in some of the areas he’s currently deficient.
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by otis29 on
Nov 13, 2008 11:17 AM PST
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Donte' can't stay on the floor yet
5 pts, 2 rbds, 2 fouls, and 2 turnovers in eight minutes. . .
Thats a true rookie line there, not ready for prime time.
Give him some more practice time or a month in Reno and then maybe, maybe he’ll be ready to contribute this year.
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by lietothegirls on
Nov 13, 2008 2:27 PM PST
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Not Getting All Mushy but
that is great article!Haven`t read a anything even close in The Bee or anywhere else,thanx for the read.
I tend to agree w/ jeremey548, Beno needs to learn to distribute the ball more.Right now he`s a score first PG,reminds me off Bjacks 1st tenure.Beno is young,hopefully he`ll stay aggessive & dish more dimes!
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Nov 13, 2008 10:46 AM PST
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Wait!
You guys forget that this isn’t the type of team where the PG will get a lot of assists, there is a lot of High-Low action with Brad Miller. I saw a lot of good passes by Beno last night and I usually see good passes by him, I feel assists are more of a team makeup thing as opposed to just the players thing. If you look at the makeup of the teams with High Assist point gaurds they don’t really have the personnel that has game in the post, but are mostly spot-up shooters and athletic bigs lacking in the skills department. I know that argument is a little scattered, but I would like someone to look further into this.
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Chris Paul has three guys who live on the ‘catch and shoot’.
(not that he isn’t great)
Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !
by lietothegirls on
Nov 13, 2008 2:29 PM PST
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Understood
Just would like to see the guy stay aggressive and cut to the hole,then dish out for a wide open 3 or down low for a dunk, rather than look for his own shot.All we have on our team is 3 pt shooters ,come on even the bigs!
by hudson101 on
Nov 13, 2008 3:50 PM PST
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Great read TZ
agree with most of the discussion above.
One thing:
Beno Udrih had the best game of his career because he decided he’s a rocket, not a ballistic missile.
I believe a ballistic missile is a rocket.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on
Nov 13, 2008 11:53 AM PST
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Good point
I guess I’m calling ICBM style rockets "ballistic missle" and tank artillery "rocket." Fair point, though.
A proposed revision:
Beno Udrih had the best game of his career because he decided he’s a Calliope, not a Trident.
by Ziller on
Nov 13, 2008 12:41 PM PST
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Nice
and helps clear it up for me.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on
Nov 13, 2008 12:49 PM PST
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TZ
wonderful article man. I noticed about 10 days ago that I’m coming here first rather than going to the Bee as I have done for years.
The clips last night looked like the team I was afraid we were after the first 4 games. I think what we are seeing is a team (players and coach) discovering who they are and getting excited about the discovery. I agree with Pooky, this team is only get better when we have cisco on the floor, in my view as big of a deal as getting brad back (not to mention Kevin). I still think we are going to get beat a lot but we are going to get better faster than I thought possible this season.
BTW, I think I understood the missle/rocket thing better than calliope/trident thing. Great job.
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
by Bluejohn on
Nov 13, 2008 12:45 PM PST
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The reason Beno looked like a rockstar
Was because last night played to his strengths. Theus had a good gameplan coming into Staples Center. Clippers have extremely poor pick and roll defense execution. Beno and Brad Miller murdered them all night long with this. It doesn’t help that Camby or Kaman didn’t step up to help defend when Baron got caught with a screen.
by Newtybar on
Nov 13, 2008 1:03 PM PST
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What a read
I felt like I should have paid for it. Well done, TZ.
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by section214 on
Nov 13, 2008 3:16 PM PST
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Easy to tell greatness isn't it?
When someone does something so well it’s become expected is one definition I believe. TZ definitely falls in that category. Something monumental had to be said, and lo & behold, he says it.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on
Nov 13, 2008 3:34 PM PST
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Totally agree
That was Kreidler-esque, which is just about the highest compliment I pay to someone who writes about sports. Scott Howard-Cooper, TZ has put you on notice.
Shut up and Coach
by Carl on
Nov 13, 2008 6:44 PM PST
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rebounds
What amazes me is that this team has only been outrebounded twice this season! It’s been a while since we were able to clean up the glass effectively as a team.
formerly kingfaninhawaii
by kingsfaninjapan on
Nov 13, 2008 3:59 PM PST
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Off Topic
But the listing of the Tahoe Park Blue Devils as your “soccer” team is rather awesome. (It’s never wrong to show interest in a slice of home.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on
Nov 13, 2008 4:10 PM PST
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Good call on the rebounds
and long time no see.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on
Nov 13, 2008 4:23 PM PST
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Haha
All I saw was the avatar and I thought: are replying to yourself??
Now on the topic: I was going to ask that question before because I wanted to know how many teams we beat on the boards. I was not that surprised that we beat that many teams. Rebounding has been much improved and I attribute that to Shock and Hawes
by eduardo_m7 on
Nov 13, 2008 4:47 PM PST
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Don't attribute it to them
They ARE the reason.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on
Nov 13, 2008 4:51 PM PST
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