Trade With the Nets: Poll

by rc360 on Nov 14, 2008 8:33 AM PST

With Jason Thompson and Spencer Hawes playing well for the Kings as of late, Moore looks like he'll be hitting the bench later this year. The Nets have been shopping sophomore Sean Williams, who got 8 blocks on the Kings last season in NJ. He got buried on the bench behind Josh Boone, Yi Jianlian, Brook Lopez, Eduardo Najera and Ryan Anderson. He also saw his minutes drop after the All-Star Break when Jason Kidd was traded to the Mavs. So here's an idea.

Trade Moore back to the Nets with Shelden Williams for Sean Williams and Stromile Swift. Sean is on a pretty cheap rookie contract and has a $1.4 million team option for 2010. He's only been given 25 minutes in 3 games. Swift's in his last year with $6.2 million left on his contract and hasn't stepped onto the court because of a back injury. Moore has a $2 million buyout option for next year that the Nets could excercise and his contract expires next season. Shelden's contract expires this season.

Stats:

Sean Williams (07-08): 5.6 PPG, 53.8% FG, 4.4 RPG, 1.5 BPG, 17.5 MPG

Stromile Swift (NJ 07-08): 5 PPG, 3.3 RPG, 0.9 BPG

Mikki Moore (08-09): 6.9 PPG, 59% FG, 3.6 RPG, 23 MPG

Shelden Williams (08-09): 3.9 PG, 3.3 RPG, 11.7 MPG

I think it works for both teams. The Kings get some extra cap space when Swift's contract expires and get another young big on a cheap contract. Both Moore and Williams can be let go after this season. What do you think?

Poll

Should the Kings trade Mikki Moore and Shelden Williams for the Nets' Sean Williams and Stromile Swift?

Make the trade.

73 votes

Don't do it.

38 votes

111 votes | Poll has closed

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Why does NJ make this trade exactly?

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by otis29 on Nov 14, 2008 8:43 AM PST reply actions

That's the point

I’m afraid, that for Nets it would be expiring contract for expiring contract(s) plus they lose Williams, who has presumably not so bad price at the market. Maybe add a second-round pick?

by KingsFanfromCentralEurope on Nov 14, 2008 8:45 AM PST up reply actions

I don't want

Stromile Swift. He’s a bum of epic proportions.

I don’t think the team picks up Mikki’s options in 2009 unless he explodes and we make the playoffs.

Jason, Spencer are waiting on the wings ready to take the reigns from Mikki.

Sean Williams is an intriguing prospect but his maturity and lack of a motor limits his potential.

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by kingme18 on Nov 14, 2008 9:01 AM PST reply actions

yeah

but better than shelden williams. id do this for 2 reason.

one, we already know what shelden brings to the table…and it isnt much.

two, it clears up playing time for JT and Hawes.

i dont see any negatives in this trade.

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by Raiders19494 on Nov 14, 2008 10:31 AM PST up reply actions

I proposed a Nets deal like this in the Mikki Ping Pong Balls thread....

and I think my trade makes more sense for the Nets. Douby and Moore for Williams and Swift actually gives the Nets the perimeter player they need while freeing up post minutes for Lopez and others. Douby is also a local guy who might thrive going home.

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by jjham15 on Nov 14, 2008 10:44 AM PST reply actions

Yeah I agree with you JJ

Very much so in fact. That’s the kind of talent the Nets would prefer to get back, as opposed to Shelden who isn’t much of a talent to the Kings or anybody else at this point. But he is expendable. (I’m not sold he doesn’t have a place in this league. I’m just curious as to where.)

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by pookeyguru on Nov 14, 2008 11:42 AM PST up reply actions

I hate guys who can't hit Free Throws

and I don’t know why exactly the Nets would give up on Williams so soon so I think its unlikely unless we sweeten the pot somehow (no #1 pick!)

- but I’d do it from our end 1) because of the rotation reasons mentioned by others, 2) this may be repeating, but it gives JT / Hawes the job, the minutes

3) I don’t think it hurts us and may help

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by lietothegirls on Nov 14, 2008 10:54 AM PST reply actions

On 2nd thought

We really need a SF/SG back, not two PF types

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by lietothegirls on Nov 14, 2008 11:00 AM PST reply actions

So the Nets

trade a cheap guy buried on their bench (Se.Williams) for a more expensive guy that will be buried on their bench (Sh.Williams). So then it comes down to Moore (another redundancy for them) for Swift. Not seein’ it for the Nets.

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by section214 on Nov 14, 2008 12:15 PM PST reply actions

What about the trade JJ suggested?

Douby/Moore for Swift/Williams?

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by pookeyguru on Nov 14, 2008 12:32 PM PST up reply actions

Certainly makes more sense

The Nets get perimeter shooting help, while we replace Mikki’s buyout number with a guy that could potentially work in behind Hawes and Thompson as a shot blocking presence off the bench. GP hates guys that can’t shoot, though, and Se.Williams’ range is about 6 inches and in.

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by section214 on Nov 14, 2008 12:38 PM PST up reply actions

and can't hit FTs

which drives me crazy

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by lietothegirls on Nov 14, 2008 12:52 PM PST up reply actions

Gotta have guys who can do other things besides shoot

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by pookeyguru on Nov 14, 2008 7:51 PM PST up reply actions

If we lose Douby

(and I’m not saying we shouldn’t) we definately need a SG/SF back, too dangerous, too thin there

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by lietothegirls on Nov 14, 2008 12:53 PM PST up reply actions

I don't think so...

Garcia will be back eventually but in the mean time Bobby Jackson and John Salmons are versatile enough to cover the spot and in a small line-up the Kings can even use Bobby Brown at the point with Beno at the two. The key to Petrie as a GM is that he always looks for versatility in his players just for this type of situation.

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by jjham15 on Nov 14, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions

Beno

Cannot play the 2 effectively.
We need some 3 pt shooting, perimeter defense and an ability to just score if needed.
I’d be for a defensive minded 3/2 that can hit the 3 off the bench.
Just one injury to KM, Cisco or Salmons would leave us very very thin at the wing positions – as we can see now with Douby out (or gone later).

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by lietothegirls on Nov 14, 2008 2:40 PM PST up reply actions

We need a 'catch and shoot' guy

Besides Cisco.

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by lietothegirls on Nov 14, 2008 2:42 PM PST up reply actions

No team is immune to injury.

Look at the Spurs and let’s see how Phoenix looks tonight without Barbosa, Nash or Barnes. Cisco is the player the Kings need and when he comes back the Kings look surprisingly good. Also, I disagree with whether Beno can play the 2 or not. He is certainly big enough to guard most shooting guards in the league and he can score in bunches when needed as seen against the Clipps. Is he a long term fix? No, but Douby isn’t really an NBA player so I could care less if he is on the roster or not.

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by jjham15 on Nov 14, 2008 3:34 PM PST up reply actions

hmmm trade to the Magic??

I like the idea of Reddick from the Magic coming aboard the Kings.
He would give us a shooter off the bench. Although he went from 6th man to 12th man in Orlando in a month.

So as was suggested in another thread a bit of Moore/Douby for Bogans/Reddick that makes us heavy and the 2 guard spot. Although Bogans does play decent D, and can drill the 3. So it might not be a bad idea.

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by lifestyleforthesellout on Nov 14, 2008 2:45 PM PST reply actions

I don't know if salaries match

or contract length, or whether they’d give up Bogans (they do need to get more athletic/dynamic at guard)
or whether they think Q might work for them.

but I’d be for that, I don’t think it makes us too heavy at the wings. Bogans can play the 3 can’t he?

Subtracting MM would give us the minutes for JT and Hawes. I’m not worried about the feelings of guys we bring in..

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by lietothegirls on Nov 14, 2008 2:53 PM PST up reply actions

Doesn't look like the salaries quite match

7.2mil from us, 5.1 from them

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by lietothegirls on Nov 14, 2008 2:59 PM PST up reply actions

You could make it work

if Orlando used their Dooling trade exception. Here’s the trade machine link.

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by Kfan in Korea on Nov 14, 2008 3:06 PM PST up reply actions