History
Note – This post has very little to do with basketball. It is not intended to be political, though it is a social commentary. Should you proceed with the reading of this piece, I hope that you enjoy it. If not, long live your right to choose.
I was born in 1959, and it has always ticked me off. Had I been born a year later, I could have made the claim that I was a ‘60’s child – astronauts and Camelot, peace signs and VW Microbuses. Free Love! Instead, I was a cold war baby, which apparently meant (among other things) that my mom was entitled to play the role of the shoe wielding Nikita Khrushchev while my backside was the desk. The 1959 birth year also means that I’m currently living in my sixth decade, even though I’m not yet 50. These are the things that piss old people like me off when we’re not chasing the neighbor kids off our lawns (and stay off, you little bastards! I just fertilized!).
The timing of my birth did afford me with a couple of pieces of wonderful timing. I grew up watching Willie Mays play centerfield for the San Francisco Giants and I was appropriately aged when I met my wife. And with all due respect to the moon landing, I was just old enough to understand the greatest social event of the ‘60’s (and my life) – the civil rights movement.
When the civil rights movement first hit our lone television, I didn’t quite understand it. I was born and raised in California, and I had friends on my street and at school of all types. This may have been the lone benefit of being on the lower half of the middle class scale in the ‘60’s – it provided for more seasoning in the melting pot. Nevertheless, as a result of my environment I quickly learned that there were good and bad people in the world, and race, creed, color or gender had nothing to do with it.
When my dad would take me to see Mays (and McCovey and Cepeda and Marichal) play, he would remind me that he could not go and see such players when he was a boy, and it always annoyed him that he was deprived the opportunity to see Josh Gibson or Satchel Paige (in his prime) on the same field with Carl Hubbell, Mel Ott and Ralph Terry. (Dad grew up in New York, and our family will “celebrate” 81 years as Giants fans next year. Remember that whenever you think that it has been tough being a Kings fan. In nearly half a century I still have not seen the Giants win a World Series. But I’m not bitter…) As dad would say, “I paid my nickel and goddammit I should have been able to see the best players for my money!” It was hard to argue with the man, especially since he was tarring roofs at age 13 and nickels were hard to come by. Besides, he was bigger than me and he had the keys to the car, so who was going to argue?
My dad’s basketball upbringing was filled with watching 5-8 guys with names like Cohen and O’Shaunessey and Donatelli. The two-handed set shots and total lack of movement was not exactly inspirational, though I’m sure that wouldn’t have stopped TZ or me from writing about it on our Smith Corona’s and then hand delivering the finished product throughout the neighboring brownstones. Today, we are free to follow players as varied as Martin, Garcia, Hawes, Thompson, and Udrih.
What does any of this have to do with the Sacramento Kings, StR, you, me, or the price of Chai Tea at Starbucks? Well, I’ll (finally!) tell you. On Tuesday, November 4th, we are being given the opportunity to make our voices heard in the form of our right to vote. Who you vote for pales in comparison to the casting of the vote itself, exercising that hard earned right that should always be cherished and protected. The fact that an African American leads one of the major party tickets fills me with pride. I emphasize that this is not an endorsement of the candidate. It is a whole hearted endorsement of the circumstance, that we are now setting our political playing field in a manner similar to our sports playing fields – let all of the best players play, and may the best players win. I am amazed and humbled and thrilled that this has happened in my lifetime.
As I mentioned earlier, my dad was tarring roofs at age 13, with the bulk of his earnings going to supporting the home in which he lived. I worked in an industrial laundry at 16, but it was summer work and I got to keep my money for myself. My daughter? She’ll be 16 in a couple of years, and I’m thinking that it will be Abercrombie or Pac-Sun for her. And so we push the rock forward.
Tuesday, November 4, 2008. Vote your heart. Vote your soul. Vote your brilliance. Vote American. Vote.
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Might also be worth
mentioning that other social movement of the 60s/70s, the women’s equal right movement. This election will produce either the 1st non-white president or the 1st non-male vice president. Pretty historic either way.
This isn’t an endorsement either, just thought it fit in with your commentary.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 2, 2008 11:27 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
My family was very politcally conscious. I’m a few years younger than you and my earliest fomative memories in order: Moon landing, Watergate, bell bottoms and peace signs, and the last years/days of Vietnam, 25,000 more dead after LBJ declared it a lost cause, the soldiers coming home to no parades, some spite and disgust, recession and gas lines (really!) – a country divided trying to escape itself. The last phrase sums up the confusion I sensed as a boy – but did not understand .
And my friends say I’m too serious . . ..
Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !
by lietothegirls on Nov 3, 2008 10:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But hey, I'm in hawaii this week for a little work
and hopefully a lotta fun – so its all good!
Enjoy the games I’m going to miss
Go Kings!
Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !
by lietothegirls on Nov 3, 2008 10:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Have fun in Hawaii
If you remember the Moon landing, I’d guess you’re a little older than me. I was 4. I remember a rocket taking off and being upset that my mom was making me “watch history” when all I wanted to do was go play. But I don’t remember watching the actual landing as a young child.
I have memories of watergate(no after school kid’s shows just old men talking) and the gas crisis. I don’t remember Vietnam, my parents must have sheltered me from that or I just didn’t pay attention.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 3, 2008 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Paying Attention is overrated
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 4, 2008 3:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good article Section
However there is still an obvious divide in politics and the majority of American opinion and that is the divisive topic of religion. It is great that we have an African American candidate as well as two women who have played important roles in this election year, however if any of them were not christian they would be immediately discredited and left with no shot at victory. Religous divide seems to be the last real barrier between equal opportunity and as you stated, letting the best ‘players’ compete. Differing religion does not decide morals and ideals in which the majority of a population can agree with.
Please do not let this thread become a bitter debate between the two remaining candidates or of religion as Section’s post brings no political bias and I am not arguing against the goodness of the Christian religion but for the opportunity for other religions to have a say in our melting pot of a country.
Again great article section and I can’t agree more that the votes cast are far less important than the casting of the vote.
Napear: "Going in to the final timeout what did the coach tell you?"
Bibby: "I asked the coach if I should go and he said, I don't really know what he said."
by kangsfan on Nov 2, 2008 12:09 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Edit
the second paragraph was meant to say that religion should not be the deciding factor and candidates should not be excluded because of it. I did not mean that religion should have a say in our politics.
Napear: "Going in to the final timeout what did the coach tell you?"
Bibby: "I asked the coach if I should go and he said, I don't really know what he said."
by kangsfan on Nov 2, 2008 12:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Great post
I’m going to keep my political opinions to myself, as this isn’t the venue. I just want to say that I wholeheartedly agree with your post. Thank you.
Shut up and Coach
by Carl on Nov 2, 2008 12:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Our structure is meant to promote stagnancy,
which isn’t necessarily bad but it does make voting less consequential. Its not the end of the world if you choose not to vote or vote third party because aside from judges neither can realistically expect to implement much change.
The state election is the important one with prop 4 and 8.
by passionforPERPS on Nov 2, 2008 1:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that
I think the symbol of Obama being president is pretty much that. But prop 4 & 8 will hurt Californian’s if passed.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 2, 2008 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Its not the end of the world if you choose not to vote or vote third party because aside from judges neither can realistically expect to implement much change.
I completely disagree with this. These candidates are radically different on major, major issues. Their policies are absolutely going to change America in fundamental ways.
- McCain wants to stay in Iraq. Obama wants to leave.
- Obama’s health care plan involves offering lower priced health care to every American by getting a group deal for everyone who doesn’t currently have health care. McCain’s plan involves giving every family a $5,000 tax credit, taxing health care as salary and eliminating the health care deduction for employers.
- McCain’s tax cuts hew to business owners and the wealthy. Obama’s tax cuts hew to people making less than $200K.
- Obama believes the economy should be stimulated through the middle class. McCain believes the economy should be stimulated through tax cuts to businesses and corporations.
- McCain thinks drilling is a primary solution to our oil problems, while Obama thinks investment in new energy technology is the way to go.
- The candidates are completely opposite on social security, equal rights for gays, foreign policy, health care, the economy, abortion and any number of other issues.
Our country is in too much trouble for nothing to change. I’m not endorsing either candidate (here), but changes WILL be made and this election WILL impact your life in a major way.
Shut up and Coach
by Carl on Nov 2, 2008 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You damn smart middle class guy
How dare you make a point intelligently?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 2, 2008 2:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i think you got confused,
you argued that the two canidates are very different but i never said they were the same, I said our structure promotes stagnancy. To everything you said all i have to say is checks and balances. If you think healthcare is going to be restructured under obama youre wrong. Likewise if you think we will start drilling for oil in Alaska should Mccain be elected, youre wrong. And congress showed Bush that they wouldnt accept any old SS plan, so whatever ends up happening there will be a compromise.
As for the differences in gay rights, abortion and possibly a few other issues you named thats where my exception of appointing judges applies because thats all supreme court business but even there you have checks and balances, Bush couldnt Harriet Myers passed.
I agree change will come but in the way that cyclical change always comes; itll be less about the actors and more about the cycle. I disagree that this election will impact my life in any way whatsoever; that is most likely not true for most but in my current situation, it is the case.
by passionforPERPS on Nov 2, 2008 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you argued that the two canidates are very different but i never said they were the same, I said our structure promotes stagnancy. To everything you said all i have to say is checks and balances. If you think healthcare is going to be restructured under obama youre wrong.
If Obama wins, Democrats will control the Presidency and both houses of Congress. The courts aren’t going to keep them from implementing at least some of their agenda.
I agree change will come but in the way that cyclical change always comes; itll be less about the actors and more about the cycle. I disagree that this election will impact my life in any way whatsoever; that is most likely not true for most but in my current situation, it is the case.
The last eight years brought 9/11, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, a housing boom, major tax cuts for the wealthy, an increase in economic inequality, $4 per gallon gas and a major economic meltdown. Many of these things would not have happened would the election have turned out differently in 2000 or 2004.
And you think the next President isn’t going to change anything that affects you? It’s absolutely your right to think what you want. I’d encourage everyone else to vote. Either way, things are going to change.
Shut up and Coach
by Carl on Nov 2, 2008 5:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's an American's duty to vote
And there is no other two ways about it. It’s your heritage if you’re American to vote. If you don’t like it move. To say, Iraq.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 2, 2008 10:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
First, let me say that I appreciate the sentiment of the post. It has been amazing to see a woman and an African American tussle for their party’s support, as well as the presidency. I thought it would happen eventually, just not so early in my lifetime.
The last eight years brought 9/11, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, a housing boom, major tax cuts for the wealthy, an increase in economic inequality, $4 per gallon gas and a major economic meltdown. Many of these things would not have happened would the election have turned out differently in 2000 or 2004.
That is one of the most misleading comments I’ve read in quite some time. I know it’s popular to blame Bush for everything that’s happened since 2000, but there’s a reason Congress has an even lower approval rating.
Rather than encouraging everyone to get out and vote, I would encourage everyone to read up on what politicians are actually doing on both sides of the aisle – it’s disgusting. As long as people continue to believe that ‘their party’ is going make a difference, when both parties have shown a clear disconnect from the will of the people, we’re going to continue to get bent over and taken for a ride. Things are tough now, and they’re going to get even tougher in the years to come – if you think this election (or any election, until people stand up and demand better representation) is going to change that in any substantial way, I’ve got a bridge to sell ya!
by cabz on Nov 2, 2008 10:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That is one of the most misleading comments I’ve read in quite some time. I know it’s popular to blame Bush for everything that’s happened since 2000, but there’s a reason Congress has an even lower approval rating.
Congress deserves nearly as much blame as the President, so I agree with you there.
Shut up and Coach
by Carl on Nov 3, 2008 11:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it still doesnt negate the fact that you said
“Many of these things would not have happened would the election have turned out differently in 2000 or 2004” Phrased like that it makes it sound like its all on the pres.
by passionforPERPS on Nov 3, 2008 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we should agree to disagree but i still have more to say,
housing boom, tax laws, economic equality, gas prices, economic meltdowns, in essence everything you mentioned except the two wars are all things that are cyclical. As for the two wars, they were both widely supported in congress and by the masses and lets not forget our soldiers are not drafted, are not illiterate, and do know what they are signing up for; so any more “Bring Steven Home” stickers and you meet the backhand. Try to remember the general sentiment in 03, if a country is telling its president to go to war how does this same country get mad at said president when the war lasts longer than 90 days.
Your real argument should lie in the patriot act and the liberties we have lost as Americans because of it. im still astounded at the set of circumstances which arose and not only made it possible but also desirable to some. That said our government’s structure stopped
Bush from doing any real harm just as it will stop or next president from doing any real good.
by passionforPERPS on Nov 3, 2008 8:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
housing boom
Caused in large part by lack of regulation in the trading securities based on bundling mortgages. How is this cyclical? Democrats are generally for more regulation. Republicans for less. It’s not fantasy to think a Democrat would have regulated the industry and reduced the boom (and bust). Legislation was actually in place by Republicans to regulate Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac, and the Dems shot it down. This did not have to be as bad as it was. Not cyclical.
tax laws
This was an absolute cornerstone of George Bush’s platform. It was not cyclical.
economic equality
Caused by the change in tax laws. Not cyclical.
gas prices
Due in part to our foreign policy and a war with one of the largest oil-producing countries in the world. Didn’t have to happen. Not cyclical.
economic meltdowns
Again, caused by lax regulation in the securities industries and incessant interest rate cuts by the Fed.
Some of these things may have happened anyway, but none of them were completely outside our control. ALL of them were affected by the decisions we made as a country. Acting as if these things happened in a vacuum, as if we had no influence, as if the people in power had nothing to do with them, is simply not correct.
Shut up and Coach
by Carl on Nov 3, 2008 11:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But...
Sure they have different ideas, different things they WANT to do. But as we’ve seen many times in the past, nothing promised during an election year is a true promise. Things still have to go through Congress. Things will still take a long time. And both sides share far more similarities and far fewer differences than they would ever like to admit.
I’ve already cast my vote (thank god for early voting), but I am rather tired of politics right now.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Nov 2, 2008 4:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
All you did was sorta name where each candidate stands on certain
issues….However, you have provided no groundwork for which any of this will be accomplished. Just because two candidates have different stances on issues does not mean anything is going to change. How is this election different than any other? Because Obama’s black?
I agree with passionforperps.
by Fire Stern Now! on Nov 2, 2008 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, this elecetion is different because Obama is an African American
Perhaps you are younger than me – perhaps you are not. But as a person that saw “white only” diners and buses and drinking fountains, this is an amazing moment in my lifetime. Again, this is not an Obama endorsement, simply an appreciation for how far we have come as a country, understanding that we still have a way to go.
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by section214 on Nov 2, 2008 5:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok. Thats great that we have made progress in civil rights
but that is hardly a rational for why things are going to actually change as it relates to the major political issues facing us right now.
by Fire Stern Now! on Nov 2, 2008 5:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
or white or brown or green or tan or whatever
(yes i do appear to shitting all over this thread)
by passionforPERPS on Nov 3, 2008 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It also should be noted...
As long as we’re discussing semantics it ought to be noted you’re referring to rationale and not rational. There is distinct discrepancy between the two. For instance if I was to describe my mother it would be as irrational and not as irrationale.
by rbiegler on Nov 2, 2008 7:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"simply an appreciation for how far we have come as a country, understanding that we still have a way to go."
Juxtapose Obama and Palin with Ca’s prop 8 and i couldnt agree with you more. Its historic, monumental, groundbreaking that we have a mixed race man running for presidency. It is a testament to our society and it makes me feel proud that i havent heard any friends, relatives, or even acquaintances bad mouth Obama for being black (that said i did get one email that called him a fundamental islamic who was trying to take down america from the inside out…absurd).
My problem has always been less with the candidates and more with the position they are running for. Our president is more than a Figurehead, he is not a puppet but he is also not a free thinker. By the time you become president you have too many favors to repay, the uphill battle against checks and balances, and limited funds(bush broke that rule but think back to LBJ’s Great Society) so it makes it hard to do anything more than just keep the machine going.
To understand me better i am liberal thinker and used to be politically liberal as well but my cynicism has led me to believe under our current structure libertarianism is to be desired and if there was any way to assure proper succession, id be for a Benevolent Dictator. And at the end of the day remember im a 22 year old waiter whose never even paid taxes, admittedly not the best source of poli ideas…but i do like to argue.
by passionforPERPS on Nov 3, 2008 8:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually Prop 8
was passed years ago in CA under a different name. But it didn’t change anything. The judges overturned it.
Let's go home.-Kevin Martin
by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 2, 2008 5:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This was SB on LPA's computer
Thought I better clear that up before she smacked me again.
Let's go home.-Kevin Martin
by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 2, 2008 5:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a one for all and all for one up there?
Jeesh SB.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 2, 2008 10:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For the record
I, the genuine LPA, concur, and NEVER smack SB. I am a docile and obedient wife.
Let's go home.-Kevin Martin
by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 3, 2008 6:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes ma'am
She doesn’t smack me for what I say. Just that I say it under her name.
"Shut up and Coach!"
Vfettke
by SavageBeast on Nov 3, 2008 9:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're probably right
She just smacks you, i bet, for run-on’s and punctuation errors.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 3, 2008 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If I did
He’d be black and blue all the time.
Let's go home.-Kevin Martin
by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 4, 2008 6:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Different law with the same purpose
The earlier laws were statutes. Prop 8 is an Amendment to the State’s Constitution. I am not a lawyer, but my understanding is that it is extremely difficult to revise the State’s Constitution once an Amendment is in place. The upshot is that Prop 8 would theoretically be more permanent.
Shut up and Coach
by Carl on Nov 2, 2008 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Like everyone else here my political opinions are mine (even though I've often hinted at where I stand)
That being said I agree there is some momentum for change, at least in some ways, when a black man in America is going to be a president. It’s as symbolically important as Jackie Robinson playing 1b on April 15, 1947. (It’s equally unfortunate that many people don’t realize that being a pioneer in baseball cost Jackie a great deal including his 2 best sports, football and basketball, and incredible success that would have been simply off the charts, and probably as close to one side as Babe Ruth was in the late teens and early 20’s in baseball. He really was that good in both sports. And yes, baseball was his worst sport. He also ran track for those who don’t know. Yes, Jackie is also a legitmate hall of famer in baseball either way. The only question I have is why he isn’t inducted twice.)
I believe that the right to vote is something so valuable that wearing the sticker “I voted” demeans the whole purpose in of itself. So i hope that everyone votes, and doesn’t ask a single thing about on Nov 4th. I hope, and realize this isn’t the case, that people vote because it’s their birthright and duty to protect it, not to wear some stupid sticker. That’s my ramble.
Section, great article, and interesting viewpoints all. Outta curiosity, what was your father’s feelings on Robert Moses? And last, but not least, brilliant article.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 2, 2008 1:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Robert Moses
Pop didn’t really speak much of Moses (dad moved from New York to Sacramento shortly after the war, with the Giants following him west 10 years later). I find Moses’ influence over building in 1950’s New York and the effect that it had on the exodus of the Dodgers and the Giants fascinating.
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by section214 on Nov 2, 2008 1:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So do I
I never really realized how much Moses had to do with it. (Moses figures very prominently in modern day New York. Much more than some may realize.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 2, 2008 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me
Or did everyone else forget that Chris Mullin was on the original Dream Team?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 2, 2008 2:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Damn, Chris Mullin needs to get out more
When you make Larry Bird look tan, you need to spend some time at the beach.
Shut up and Coach
by Carl on Nov 2, 2008 3:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Still angers me Laettner was on the Dream Team
Didn’t belong then, and doesn’t belong now.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 2, 2008 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Ditto- I still can't believe that stiff was on the greatest team ever assembled.
Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.
by jjham15 on Nov 2, 2008 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hope for the future
Fuels the American Dream.
Too bad Laettner sucked.
I promise that’ll be my last haiku of the year.
by furious.d on Nov 2, 2008 5:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There's a reason he overpayed Kaman.
Now you know.
Donte? Donte'! Donté?!?!
'spect da 'xtra E'
by iashwash on Nov 2, 2008 11:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the read, Section. I’m sure that, like me, much of the StR community gets a certain amount of (probably deserved) guff for spending so much time thinking about things that seem so trivial in the grand scheme as the Kings’ 2009 salary obligations. And maybe we don’t see the forest for the trees sometimes, but it’s nice to be reminded of just how integral a part of the social fabric of America sports can be for those of us who care to appreciate them.
Obviously it’s as easy to be cynical as it is to be naive about the United States’ political failings. Despite the fact that my opinions generally tend to betray my cynicism, I must say that I am genuinely proud to cast my vote in a country where, just like the generations that preceded me, people will be live and die by the bounce of a ball long after I am gone. And I am glad that our friends living abroad can share in and spread the passion that we enjoy, just as it was passed on to us.
by furious.d on Nov 2, 2008 4:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Today's the day
Hope everyone is getting out to vote. I will be taking my daughter for her first trip to the polls – and I’ll try to make her 5 year-old brain understand the importance of what we as a country are accomplishing today, and why casting our vote is an important responsibility.
Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.
by otis29 on Nov 4, 2008 1:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think she'll have trouble understanding it
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 4, 2008 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
On one hand appreciating the right to vote is one thing
In my Math class, the kid I sit in the table with, I asked who these 4 particularly guys were that were at the introduction of a chapter. One was of a late 20ish Ronald Reagan in his acting days. One picture is of FDR smoking the pipe in those stupid long things they smoked cig’s in the 20’s. One is of Gerald Ford smoking a pipe. And the last picture was of Clinton smoking a cigar. Of the 4 he only knew Clinton, which should surprise noone. And this is somebody who is 20. American’s don’t pay nearly enough attention to their history & heritage, and hopefully, they will start reversing course.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
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