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Quincy Douby Took a Sad Song, Made it Sadder

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Is that the end of Quincy Douby's Sacramento Kings career?

It's a quick fall from the summit of a tiny hill. Douby missed critical potential game-winning shots at home against Phoenix and San Antonio. No matter: Reggie Theus did the right thing and played QD heavily against Memphis woeful Memphis. And QD shot 0-9. When you're a shooter and you're fighting for your NBA career, I guess you're not allowed to shoot 0-9. As we all know, Douby received a DNP-CD against New Orleans, despite the fact that the starting two-guard remains out, the primary back-up at the two-guard and small forward positions is out, and the starting power forward is out, requiring a potential back-up/starting small forward to start at the PF. A 20-year-old rookie starts at the three, a 22-year-old rookie starts the four, a 20-year-old soph is the only bench big man to get burn, and a 23-year-old rookie and a 57-year-old ghost share all the bench minutes in the backcourt.

In this situation, if you are earning a DNP-CD from a coach who is trés sympatique to your style and situation ... you're done.

For Douby's sake, I hope he's freed by a trade. (Hey, New Orleans might be able to use him. The Hornets bench offense is atrocious.) Playing out the season from the bench isn't good for anyone -- QD is still an asset to someone, so the Kings ought to try to exchange the asset for one which can be given a clean slate and a fresh chance. No one's going to take one of Sacramento's ornery contracts just because you toss in QD, but Petrie would have an audience if he drew up a marquee trumpeting Douby's availability.

Is it sad? I mean, this team isn't exactly a monument to troubled draft picks. I think Gerald Wallace's post-Sacramento blossom will always sting some for us devoted Crash fanatics, and watching Hedo Turkoglu win awards in Orlando isn't as fun as you might think. But Peja Stojakovic did his best work here. Jason Williams was never more thrilling than in a purple jersey. Kevin Martin ... are you kidding me? Francisco Garcia, Spencer Hawes, Jason Thompson and Donté Greene look to continue the legacy.

QD's the one recent failure. His physics might have made him the longest shot, despite holding the key Petrie elements (long, versatile, shoots like the KGB). We'll always wonder about Rajon Rondo, but whatever. I'll take this history in the draft rather than revision. But I think because of QD's loneliness in Petrie's hall of mistakes, it will always be a sad case for us. He isn't Olowakandi or Fuller, you know? There's no narrative, no laughing later. If it makes it some day, the Kings will not have been proven wrong ... Douby will just be considered a miracle.

And while I'd prefer Greene and Bobby Brown to get whatever exercise Douby was otherwise in line for, I hope I'm wrong here. I do hope something changes and QD is able to reach his truth this year in Sacramento. But you'd be blind to expect it these days.

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As far as GP draft picks

Quincy was the one that seemed more experimental than the others. From the time the Kings drafted him, there was talk of PG conversion. So I think Petrie gets a pass on this one, considering Quincy’s draft slot.

Clearly, Quincy isn’t a PG, and his future here cannot be as a two-guard, considering the talent in front of him. It’s time for the team and Quincy to part ways, IMO.

He seems like a great guy, so here’s hoping he can find his niche somewhere in the NBA.

"Mock outrage makes me outraged." - Carl @ STR

by otis29 on Nov 20, 2008 10:32 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sheldon Williams

Reminds me of the baby brontasaurus in “The Land Before Time.” I am sorry I had to get that off my chest.

There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru

by moproblemz on Nov 20, 2008 10:48 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well said!

He may/probably get a few more minutes this next week. Good luck to him and US!

Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !

by lietothegirls on Nov 20, 2008 10:49 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice eulogy.

After this long winded argument in Douby or Not Douby , I watched the Memphis game with hopeful anticipation that Quincy Douby would take a leap and become a viable option at least in the short term. When the game was over, I not only felt JustaRealDude’s comments about Douby hurting right now, I saw them in game action. I have to wonder if Douby isn’t committing the cardinal sin of reading the fish wrap or even worse, blogger postings, dying a little inside, losing all remaining confidence. I hope he isn’t, that is what your friends are for, to filter the bad and prop you up. I wish Douby well, he seems like a likable dude, but I will stick to my previous statements and look forward to more Donte (I don’t know how to use the ` with the e) and Bobby Brown with an occasional retro Bobby Jackson sighting mixed in.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on Nov 20, 2008 10:52 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't either, suggest

you just put the apostrophe after it like I do, Donte’

Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !

by lietothegirls on Nov 20, 2008 11:09 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's easy.

Type D-o-n-t and then hold down ALT while typing 0233 on the number pad and as soon as you take your finger off the ALT key, you get——

é

Let's go home.-Kevin Martin

by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 20, 2008 1:38 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks, I spent 15 minutes last night trying to figure how to put that thing up,

"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley

by Bluejohn on Nov 20, 2008 4:20 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why didnt we send douby to the d-league? he has talent, he just seems to lack confidence. a stint in the d-league would either help him get some of his confidence back, or further cement that he does not belong in the league.

the issue with trading douby now is that i’m sure teams have noticed he doesnt really produce. in order to get his trade value (as a player) into the land of decency, he needs to show he can put up some numbers from the bench. but then, if he does that on a consistent basis, we would want to keep him…

damn you, doooubyyy

by sactoreg on Nov 20, 2008 11:29 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not a bad idea

But being demoted may also hurt his feelings, even if it would be beneficial. I still think he gets some meaningful minutes down the road to show us something. It’s not his last chance, but pretty close.

AK47, SN13, B52, and K9. One guns, Another runs, He fits, while it licks.

by CAB on Nov 20, 2008 11:43 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Only 1st and 2nd year players I believe

Otherwise they’re Free agents(?) I think thats right.

Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !

by lietothegirls on Nov 20, 2008 11:45 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well then...

never mind that.

AK47, SN13, B52, and K9. One guns, Another runs, He fits, while it licks.

by CAB on Nov 20, 2008 11:46 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

D-League

I believe teams can only send first and second year players to the NBDL.

Someone PLEASE correct me if I’m mistaken.

by smgmatt on Nov 20, 2008 11:44 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You are NOT mistaken

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 20, 2008 11:53 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Excellent synopsis

Well said, and perfectly put. All I gotta say about that.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 20, 2008 11:53 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm gonna miss

having a guy on the roster named Douby.

Bring Chris Bosh to California!!!

by Shizzo on Nov 20, 2008 11:54 AM PST reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Right!

Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !

by lietothegirls on Nov 20, 2008 1:34 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agree

I wrote the same thing the other night – that 0-9 was the end of Douby’s Sacramento Kings career and possibly the end of his NBA career. Maybe the Kings can move him somewhere for a 2nd round pick. Otherwise, I think he’s going to be fighting for a roster spot somewhere next season. I don’t think he’ll even land a one year guaranteed deal.

That being said, Quincy has to keep his head up and keep working. He’s still young and there’s some talent there. It just needs to be translated from practice to games.

Shut up and Coach

by Carl on Nov 20, 2008 12:45 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a trade?

for example Douby / Belinelli

or

Douby / 2º round

by Matenja on Nov 20, 2008 12:59 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd do the Belinelli deal

as I said before. It sure would be nice to move MM first or together though.

Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !

by lietothegirls on Nov 20, 2008 1:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

more trades

i also prefer Belinelli, but also first I prefer trade Moore. options?

by Matenja on Nov 20, 2008 2:27 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

*

options to trade Mikki Moore?

by Matenja on Nov 20, 2008 2:28 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All night last night

I kept thinking how horrible Douby must feel sitting on the bench and watching Donté and BJax, and it made me unspeakably sad.

I do wish him the best, and I hope he finds success. I just don’t think he’ll ever find it here.

Let's go home.-Kevin Martin

by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 20, 2008 1:36 PM PST reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I would also point out...

That with a handful of exceptions that wasn’t a particularly substantive late draft. In terms of who would have been markedly better there’s the aforementioned Rondo, Farmar and in the second round Miles, Craig Smith and Leon Powe. But Rondo, Powe, Miles and Farmar all ended up on good teams so it probably isn’t fair to use the way they’ve performed in subsequent years as a gauge of Douby’s deficiencies. And while Lowry, Marcus Williams and Boone all seemed preferable in previous years given the roster’s own deficiencies I’d take all of the players who we’ve drafted/signed subsequently.

And remember, once in a blue moon Douby has looked pretty spectacular. Remember the Golden State game three years ago? I realize I sound like his grandmother.

by rbiegler on Nov 20, 2008 1:43 PM PST reply reply actions actions   2 recs

Rec'd

Rondo would have been the rough equivalent of Orien Greene had the Kings drafted him – a good defensive point guard that can’t create or throw it in the ocean.

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by section214 on Nov 20, 2008 2:24 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If not a great PG

At least the great spot-up shooter our offense never allowed him to be.

by rbiegler on Nov 20, 2008 2:43 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

a shot’s a shot and 0-9 ain’t cuttin’ it.

by StepUp on Nov 20, 2008 2:46 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

That's silly

A good player can play with any team. Rondo = Orien Greene? C’mon

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by dalt99 on Nov 21, 2008 9:23 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My point

is that coming out of college Rondo was a guy that could play a little defense, but he couldn’t shoot a lick and didn’t really create much for others. How does a guy like that get any time here? He would have been behind Bibby at first, and he just does not fit our system where point guards need to shoot and score. My opinion (and while it is just my opinion, I’m sicking with it) is that Rondo would not have developed here.

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by section214 on Nov 21, 2008 11:36 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He had the chance at two game winners in a row

had he made either one this would be a different story. imagine the confidence and swagger he’d have. 0 for 9 would’ve been 7 for 9 for 18 points.

here’s to hoping he can act so he can land the lead role in Spike Lee’s Tupac biopic

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by vfettke on Nov 20, 2008 2:24 PM PST reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Can someone tell me

Why Donté Grééné has his arm around Q and his hand down his pants? Save that for after the game, young man!

Shut up and Coach

by Carl on Nov 20, 2008 3:17 PM PST reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Easy

One on the QD, one on the QT . . . what’s the problem?

by smgmatt on Nov 20, 2008 3:34 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

And a terrible legend is born.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 20, 2008 9:40 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Picture

I look at it and I see a movie…Usual Suspects? Cuckoo’s Nest? Steel Magnolia’s? The picture is trying to telll me something, but I can’t quite make it out…

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by section214 on Nov 20, 2008 5:13 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We were talking about this last night

on the game thread. Every minute Donte’ played, every shot he made, every good thing he did on the floor stood in stark contrast to QD’s inability to get the job done.

If Kevin and Cisco stay relatively healthy the rest of the season I’m not sure QD gets much more than mimimum garbage minutes. I’m not sure that there is a trade out there for him in the league but if there is I would love to see him traded to a team that could rehabilitate him.

I’m starting to wonder how much interest there is out there for Mikki but in the unlikely chance that Petrie could use QD to sweeten the pot in that trade I’m all for it. So yeah TZ Douby’s situation is a sad one but after this week I’d be surprised we discuss it much, he’s either going to be traded by the deadline or ridin the pine until the end of the season.

"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley

by Bluejohn on Nov 20, 2008 4:34 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trading Mikki...

I wouldn’t be so hot to trade him. He doesn’t belong as a starter, and that’s why I think fans are down on him. As a bench player, he produces more like Scott Pollard except for the fouls. That’s a good guy to have. He’s not that expensive nor is his contract long.

by StepUp on Nov 21, 2008 10:48 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's keep this in proper perspective

Sure, Donte did look great last night but it’s only one game. Let’s see if he can consistently produce before we annoint him and send Douby packing.

by KingsFan on Nov 20, 2008 6:45 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The perspective is this

Donte took advantage of the opportunity he had, Douby did not. He got the chance to hit two game winners, and missed. Out of the two I only saw the first one and there was no reason he should have missed an open 20 footer. I know he hasn’t played much and his confidence is broken, but the fact that Theus called his name in crunch time and he didn’t perform says something. The excitement around Donte is that he took advantage of what he was given.

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by vfettke on Nov 20, 2008 6:55 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

’Cuz QD had his great one game vs. GSW and see where that got him.

Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.

by Holmdel on Nov 20, 2008 8:13 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm with you KingsFan...

Donte’ looked good but it is early to make major predictions on his career.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on Nov 20, 2008 9:07 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

poor Q

I think he is just not tall enough to be an effective 2 guard and he doesn’t have the ability to become a PG. Bobby Brown is doing a better job at that……..

by newkings on Nov 20, 2008 7:26 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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