Sactown Royalty: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Sports blogs for fans, by fans.
New Blog: Sounder At Heart for Seattle Sounders Fans!

Another Way to Die

At no point during the wild fourth quarter comeback led by Bobby Brown did it really seem like the Kings could pull off the upset victory. Even as the margin shrunk to four and Bobby Jackson got loose, it seemed as if one or two missed shots and a fortuitous play on the Lakers end would signal the game's finish. And as it happened, the Kings missed a few shots and the Lakers turned up a couple of fortuitous plays, and it ended with a 10-point loss, which given the circumstances felt like a 1-point win.

Clearly, the Lakers are no ordinary team. As such, you really have to be careful about making any sort of derivative analysis. But considering Derek Fisher and Jordan Farmar are so similar in quality, the ability of Brown to perform where Beno Udrih could not seemed important. Sam Amick (in one of the best game stories you'll read anywhere) touches on the situation:

The Kings would not maintain the momentum, as the Lakers finally responded with a late 9-0 run, but Brown had certainly made matters more interesting at the point guard position. It has been a platoonstyle effort of late, with Udrih playing a combined 46 minutes to Brown's 50 in losses to Portland and the Lakers. In those two games, Udrih had 15 points, 13 assists and two turnovers to Brown's 34, 14, and seven.

I don't think we're at the point where Brown will challenge Udrih for the starting slot. The team has tied up a lot of hope and responsibility in Beno, and Theus isn't in the business of cutting off his own hand to make a point. But ...

A Brown/Kevin Martin/John Salmons/Jason Thompson/Spencer Hawes line-up has buckets and buckets of offensive firepower. That unit could be one of the most efficient fives in the game. (The team has the No. 10 offense right now, despite the injuries.) But can it play enough defense? We know Salmons can defend. We know Thompson has a physical nature, we know Hawes has turned into a great weakside shotblocker and we know that entire unit is smart. If Brown and Martin could combine to limit open threes and easy penetration off the pick-and-roll ...

... well, then that'd be a damn strong line-up, wouldn't it?

The team's defense is so bad right now that it's hard to tell if Brown is doing well on that end. To be honest, Beno has found himself in the right place repeatedly the past week. He nor the forwards/centers can close out worth a damn, but a lot of the turnovers opponents have made have wound up in Beno's hands. (He has 12 steals over the last five games ... and he only played more than 30 minutes in two of those games.) If he wouldn't get lost on pick-and-rolls and closed out some, we wouldn't likely be having this conversation. All told, the team might be best served with a mistake-free Beno in the front five and a microwave-ready Brown off the bench. But Udrih's defense has to get better to make it all make sense.

1 recs  |  Comment 20 comments |

Story-email Email Printer Print

More from Sactown Royalty

Preview: Kings at Jazz, Game 6

Nov 2009 by Ziller - 74 comments

Preview: Kings at Hornets

Oct 2009 by Exhibit G - 71 comments

Around SB Nation

Game 5: Hive Live

Nov 2009 from At The Hive - 13 comments

2009 Season Preview

Oct 2009 from Canis Hoopus - 59 comments

Comments

Display:

My Observation Regarding Beno's Defense

I’ve been to 3 Kings games this year and watched the rest on TV, so that doesn’t exactly make me a hoops expert; however, I’ve noticed that Beno has a habit of leaving his man to help on the defensive side of the floor. Does this mean he doesn’t trust his teammates to guard their guys? Did Theus instruct Beno to double in the post? Does Beno turn his head to watch the ball and lose track of his cover? I don’t know if it’s written in the scouting report against the Kings, but it seems like three or four passes after getting the ball in the post against Sacramento gets you an open look at a three. After watching the latest barrage of deep bombs last homegame against the Blazers in person, when Steve Blake benefitted from Udrih’s tendency to creep away, as the crowd would groan, I found myself thinking, “Just stay home!” (I mean, to Beno, not that I shouldn’t have gone to the game…)

by #12Pick...who? on Nov 24, 2008 9:10 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

To play good defense

you must watch your man and the ball. You always need to know where the ball is.

Still, there does seem to be too much switching going on with the Kings defense and it causes screwy match ups, confusion and open layups allowed.

by KingsFan on Nov 24, 2008 10:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Couple things though
three or four passes after getting the ball in the post against Sacramento gets you an open look at a three.

That will get you an open 3 against pretty much any team in the league, pretty much all the time. You just described the Spurs offense over the last decade.

Pass to TD, if doubled pass around the perimeter, shoot open 3, else TD scores.

As for Beno helping. I think that’s by design. At this time our interior D is such that our bigs have trouble stopping anyone 1-on-1 in the post, we double, they pass, open 3. I think it’s a pick your poison thing. Easy inside bucket or make them pass the ball a few times for an open 3?

If you double in the post, they might not make the pass, they might make a bad pass, they might miss the 3. If we don’t double the post they get a high percentage shot.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Nov 24, 2008 12:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I Agree With You Completely; However...

Given recent teams’ 3-point percentage against us, are those attempts still considered low percentage shots?

If a tree falls in the forest…

by #12Pick...who? on Nov 24, 2008 12:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you

and the open 3s drive me nuts. Maybe our rotations are slow, I don’t know. It’s ugly no matter how you slice it.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Nov 24, 2008 12:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know either

Many lately have seemed reasonably well defended. It may be a result of the reputation ‘they don’t/can’t guard the 3’ has raised confidence in other teams.

The 3 is a lot about confidence.

Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !

by lietothegirls on Nov 24, 2008 6:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Bobby Brown

Is kind of Bobby Jackson reborn on offense. It’s not an exact replica – BoJax was a great rebounder for his size, an excellent defender and was never afraid to take and make the big shot. Brown will probably never be the rebounder Bobby Jackson was, but Brown is more athletic, can score from anywhere on the floor and has no problem staying with his man on defense. If the early season is any indication, (52% FG, 44% 3P%) Bobby Brown is actually a better jump shooter than Bobby Jackson was.

Bobby Brown’s role will very likely be what it was last night – a sparkplug off the bench.

Shut up and Coach

by Carl on Nov 24, 2008 9:17 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

That's Garcia's job

which could be very interesting when Cisco returns. If they clique on the court and have some good team chemistry leading the second unit, imagine the how awesome it could be having both of them come off the bench.

www.mancancook.net

by vfettke on Nov 24, 2008 10:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

One thing I noticed last night

is how easily Bobby Brown was beating the big guy stepping out on the pick and roll. Someone would set the pick, both Lakers would step out and Brown would go around the big guy beating both into free space in the middle of the floor, it was amazing. Brown just needs to keep growing. If he can maintain anything resembling the shooting to date and learn to run the offense, he’s going to be very, very good. He certainly has gifts Beno doesn’t.

by ForThree on Nov 24, 2008 11:20 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Good observation

I noticed the same thing. Brown was killing people off the dribble, more than the other games I’ve seen.

Shut up and Coach

by Carl on Nov 24, 2008 5:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

around for a Jump Shot

rather than always (mostly) trying to penetrate to the hole ala salmons. Works fine on tams with no shot blockers but is difficult against the LAs and Portlands who block shots.

People complain about jump shooting teams – but we don’t have enough. I’m not talking abouts 3’s, we shot enough of those last night, I mean the medium range shot around a pick from an open spot on the floor. Too many players off the dribble right now.

Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !

by lietothegirls on Nov 24, 2008 6:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Beno's jump shot

I want to know where his jumper went.

by sactown on Nov 24, 2008 11:42 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I hate tooting my own idea's

Because being self serving is very short sighted in many ways, but this only enhances my point about trying to get MIke Conley in a swap involving Beno. Beno isn’t a natural fit here, yet he’s doing the best he can. Conley isn’t a natural fit with Mayo, and such. Oui.

Great post, and it would be intriguing to see BB start. I’m just not sure he’s that type of player. The way he’s going now is impressing the hell out of me. (It’s also worrying me how the Kings will pay him in the off-season.)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 24, 2008 2:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

He got a two-year deal, right?

So at least the Kings have got some time to make a decision and get something done, should he continue to impress.

by cabz on Nov 24, 2008 3:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

2nd year is a player option

per ShamSports.com

So if he continues to play well, he will likely opt out of that 700k and look to sign a real contract.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Nov 24, 2008 3:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You're right

I didn’t think there was much possibility that Brown would opt out, but if he finishes the season averaging 8 points per game while shooting over 50% from the field and +40% from three, he’ll definitely be in line for a 2 or 3 year deal at $3 million per year.

Shut up and Coach

by Carl on Nov 24, 2008 5:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good thing the mid level is always around

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 24, 2008 7:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

can't imagine BB getting more than that

I always expect Sac to have to overpay to keep/get guys. It is the small market way (see Udrih, Beno. Cisco, Francisco)

by betweentheeyes on Nov 24, 2008 8:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I need to proof read. (Garcia, Francisco)

my post button is a loose trigger… twitchy.

by betweentheeyes on Nov 24, 2008 8:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mine too

No worries. We know what you meant, but other fanbases might not have.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 25, 2008 3:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to Sactown Royalty, the best community of Sacramento Kings fans in the universe. That's not my opinion; it's scientific fact.
Start posting about the Kings »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Eastern_logs_small
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly Week 2
Small
What to expect from Ime Udoka (psst, it's defense)
Zebulon_small
Sweet New Kings Pics!
Small
AnotherStupidRecap: The View from the Cheap Seats
Webber-and-williams-slam-401_small
Three Players

Recent FanPosts

Sacramento_kings_basketball_small
Playoff Bound?!
Small
Andres Nocioni needs to Go
Small
Spencer Hawes
Small
Quick Look at the Kings offense
Small
Time to give credit
Spence___jt_small
All Is Not Lost
Small
Martin MRI?
Inigo_small
LTTGs view Kings vs Hawks

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

Local Sponsors


Editor

Loofie_small Ziller

Joe_kleine_small section214

Associate Editor

Coachie_small rbiegler

Authors

Banana2_small Exhibit G