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Sometimes You Eat the Bar, and Sometimes, well, He Eats You

Some time ago TZ appointed me to Associate Editor primarily with the intention of serving as the Sactown Royalty business class equivalent of the now retired Rob Iracane at Deadspin. A sort of commentary ombudsman. As with any good state worker upon receiving said promotion I promptly ceased productivity and have spent most of my time subsequently on this blog making boner and pension jokes. Now the need for an ombudsman on this page may seem slightly extravagant, and realistically had I pursued my duties more zealously most of my communication would have been in the form of personal e-mails between myself and Pookie, but the recent rash of high school suicide note quality troll posts has spurned me into action.

So here's question number one, at what point did it become culturally acceptable for fans of over achievingly average basketball teams to comport themselves with smug self-satisfaction? Why have Blazer and Warrior aficionados turned into the fandom equivalent of subprime borrowers (leveraging success against bad teams like Sacramento as some sort of proof of Western Conference contention)? And why have they, all too often, shown the same intellectual capacity of said subprime borrowers?

Now look I'm not going to sit here and say posts need to be intelligent or insightful. The bulk of my writing on this page as of late, as previously noted, involved erections, but there's a sizable difference between a post being unintelligent and unintelligible. If your writing sounds like the ramblings of a smoking Club Raven customer at 11:30 a.m. on a Wednesday and you live in Oregon but are a New England Patriots and Detroit Red Wings fan I am left to assume one of three things 1) You're 16 2) You work at a Foot Locker in suburban Medford or 3) You're 16 and work at a Foot Locker in suburban Medford. And that's not intended to cast aspersions on any Foot Locker employees but realistically to believe any alternative would shake my fundamental faith in the inherent intelligence of any individual.

Now the misguided gloating doesn't entirely shock me coming from Warrior fans. In college when I'd ask classmates where they were from in the Bay Area they'd generally respond "The City," interestingly their interpretation of San Francisco included not just the Mission, the Sunset and the inner Richmond, but Richmond, Hayward, Fairfield and Lafayette. Hell the majority didn't know what the inner Richmond was. But from the Portland fan base this does surprise me. I always liked Portland. I always liked the Trail Blazers, and realistically this page has done nothing if not show a healthy level of respect and even intimidation toward said team. And maybe that's been our mistake. Ever since our post-Bayless thread in June Sactown Royalty has allowed itself to play victim and unreasonably so. No one here questions the fact that Portland is a better team than Sacramento. Christ, you've been in the lottery for most of this decade you'd better have a better team than we do. You've had Top 10 picks in the 3 out of the last 4 years, including what most consider to be the League's next great center and you're claiming to be better than a roster that features Mikki Moore? J'accuse!

Several Blazer fans have had very kind, nurturing, clever, supportive things to say. And it is appreciated. And the truth is well intentioned animosity is always entertaining. Besides the Portland fan base has probably made the most substantive contribution to Sactown Royalty outside of Sacramento fans. So know my intention isn't to generalize, despite generalizing always being easier when criticizing. But I think we'd all be better off giving each other shit than humoring people who write like shit.

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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A few bad seeds

No big deal. There were a couple of pea-brained dickless sh*theads working the game thread last night, and it would be nice to stomp them out early. Maybe section can be given night-shift BANHAMMER capabilities??

Overall the Portlanders have been solid contributors here. I haven’t ventured to their blog lately, and I hope we are representing properly up there.

As for GSW fans, there are very few I would piss on if they were on fire. I hate to generalize, but they all pretty much suck.

"Don't sweat the petty stuff and don't pet the sweaty stuff." - My Dad, confusing me at a very young age.

by otis29 on Nov 25, 2008 10:45 AM PST reply actions  

excellent

Warriors ‘fans’ with thier $10 t-shirts will soon be using those to check thier oil on weekends.

Oh yeah, and Portland can’t play a lick of Defense.
(though i drool over a few of thier role players)

Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !

by lietothegirls on Nov 25, 2008 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I feel for you

Since the increase in popularity of the Blazers the last few years, the Blazer online community has grown a ton. 2 years ago in Gameday threads over at Blazersedge there would be 300 comments, now there is 2000. While I love having more Blazer fans to talk with, there comes bad with the good.

 The more people, the more idiots. Simple as that. The amount of ‘trade our 10th and 12th best players for lebron’ posts are extremely infuriating. It something ever community has to deal with.

Dave over at Blazersedge has encouraged people to visit other SB nation blogs and see their different point of views, while following different site guidelines. Unfortunately people don’t always follow rules and like shit, trolls happen.

Channing Frye’s humorous dislike for Sacramento aside, Blazer and Kings fans should not have any beef.

Keep up the good work on this site!

Woof

by Charles Barkley McLovin on Nov 25, 2008 11:47 AM PST reply actions  

Frye

is also my favorite Blazer. I don’t think it’s xenophobia that’s flustered fans but precisely what you said, given the Petrie and Adelman connections and the two teams star crossed series’ against the Lakers a few years ago there always seemed to be a healthy admiration between these two franchises. And by all means I believe it’s still there.

by rbiegler on Nov 25, 2008 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Includes Wayne Cooper too

Elston Turner also if you want to keep extending it. Terry Porter also.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 25, 2008 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Frye? Really?

Why on Earth???

Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !

by lietothegirls on Nov 25, 2008 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Too much healthy respect for Zona grads?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 25, 2008 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Frye

Saw him play when he was at St. Mary’s and I was living with a couple of Brophy alumni (those are both high schools in Phoenix, apologies.) I’ve been fond of him since.

by rbiegler on Nov 25, 2008 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Makes sense

Just becuz the guy said stupid shit about Sactown doesn’t meant I’m offended. I say negative stuff about the place too. It’s just, that, I’m right. Which is irritating, but whatever.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 25, 2008 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

OK 'fond of him'

I get it. He’ll never be a starter (or shouldn’t be) in this league though.

Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !

by lietothegirls on Nov 25, 2008 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm fond of Mikki

Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !

by lietothegirls on Nov 25, 2008 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Feel free to send em an email now if you want

I don’t really care, but I have my reasons too.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 25, 2008 11:53 AM PST reply actions  

Also I'm insulted by the Raven Club reference

Most trolls have never heard of it, A, and B, that place is full of intelligent drunks. Unlike, say, the Park.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 25, 2008 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Two things:

1) Was only joking about the comment thing. A reference not to the content of your comments but the breadth.

2) I am one of those intelligent drunks. So I feel I can make fun of the place.

by rbiegler on Nov 25, 2008 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay I thought you were serious there

Sorry, but it didn’t seem to be a joking comment. Now that it is, it’s funny. I do comment too much. I try to cut down, but I find myself doing other things, like watching movies, and not being a Kings fan. So I’m kinda stuck with being an overbearing turd.

Intelligent drunkyness I support! Bravo sir! (I hated the Park when I drove a cab cuz of the snobby dorks who attend there. I always appreciated the drunks outta the Raven. Didn’t bother ya much, and didn’t have drama. Just chillin drinkin their stuff and goin home at the end of the day.)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 25, 2008 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Oui

Now that I know it is, It’s funny. (what I meant to say)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 25, 2008 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Vampire bar

"Don't sweat the petty stuff and don't pet the sweaty stuff." - My Dad, confusing me at a very young age.

by otis29 on Nov 25, 2008 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

What's wrong with vampires?

Better than snotty row in Folsom.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 25, 2008 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Nothing

Great people watching in that bar. And the older bartender guy is excellent – worth the price of admission on his own.

"Don't sweat the petty stuff and don't pet the sweaty stuff." - My Dad, confusing me at a very young age.

by otis29 on Nov 25, 2008 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Never been there

Maybe next time I’m home I’ll stop in for a drink.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 25, 2008 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll drink to that!

"Oh, boy! This website is very good. Hey, let's talk about the Raiders!" - "Peaches" Napier

by dalt99 on Nov 25, 2008 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Sactown Royalty

Field trip, at the Club Raven.

by rbiegler on Nov 25, 2008 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

What is the address?

3232 J St? (I forget the exact address. Basically it’s behind Safeway on J st across from the Sutter Middle School Field. Can’t miss it.)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 25, 2008 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I might make the drive

if the fox and goose is involved. What’s the vibe at club raven? I was under 21 when I was in sac, so I can only check out new places when I come into town to visit.

And I'm like one of the most ghetto-ist guys in the NBA. - Ron Artest

by Kingsfan banished to AZ on Nov 25, 2008 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Vampire bar, like I said

Actually, it’s a great place. It’s really the kind of bar you go for a drink to either start or end the night. Pretty cramped, good bartenders, interesting crowd. No dancing, no sports really.

"Don't sweat the petty stuff and don't pet the sweaty stuff." - My Dad, confusing me at a very young age.

by otis29 on Nov 25, 2008 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't mind

Blazer fans rubbing our noses in it as much as stinky/nna/melee trolling last night

"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley

by Bluejohn on Nov 25, 2008 6:32 PM PST reply actions  

blazers fan rep

I have been a Blazeredge fan for a long time, our community has grown in the last year exponentially. Unfortunately one of the side effect is more idiots, and more idiot posts. Please don’t judge all of us! We all love our team but most of us respect others as well. Screw the GSW fans those guys are big jerks!

by The Natural ala Mode on Nov 26, 2008 6:38 AM PST reply actions  

*shudder*

I fear the day that Sacramento returns to its winning ways and we suddenly have to deal with an overabundance of idiots in here.

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Nov 26, 2008 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

We'll need

diiferent blogging levels. If you are here right now, you would be a “platinum” member. If you join next year, you’re a “gold” member. If you wait until they become a playoff contender, you’re a “my 401k” member.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Nov 26, 2008 12:10 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 26, 2008 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Rec'd

Both for humor & inspiration.

We laugh because it’s funny, but we also laugh because it’s true.

by smgmatt on Nov 26, 2008 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

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