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David Thorpe from ESPN explains why scouts are kicking themselves for not getting Jason Thompson and he's pointing to his game on Sunday vs. the Lakers.

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David Thorpe really likes JT

And he should. There is alot to like.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 26, 2008 12:11 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

You're right

Right now, in my opinion, he’s more of a contribution here than Beasley is in Miami. They’re still waiting for him to get 10 boards in a game.

by rc360 on Nov 26, 2008 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Would much rather have JT than Beasley

So would you rather be Sacramento in the position to draft JT, and get heavily criticized, or MIami, for being even more criticized for that.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 26, 2008 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Well I don't live in Miami...

And getting JT where Sac got him was a steal, compared to getting drafted late 1st round. I choose Sac. They criticized us, even if the Warriors wanted him at #14.

by rc360 on Nov 26, 2008 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't care

But I’m fully happy with JT, and am very glad we didn’t get Beasley. That is not an usual thing to say about a 12th & 2nd overall pick in the same draft.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 26, 2008 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Easy

With the few outlying FRANCHISE PLAYER exceptions (James, Howard, etc), you almost always want the late-round steal over the big name guy, if for nothing else than because they’re lower on the rookie scale. Aside from that, these are the types of players that have a chip on their shoulders (e.g. Arenas, even Paul at #4!).

For example, who do you want from the 2004 draft (after Howard)?
2. Emeka Okafor
3. Ben Gordon
4. Shaun Livingston
5. Devin Harris
6. Josh Childress
7. Luol Deng
9. Andre Iguodala
13. Sebastian Telfair
15. Al Jefferson (well….that’s kind of a steal at #15)
17. Josh Smith
19. Dorell Wright
20. Jameer Nelson
24. Delonte West
25. Tony Allen
26. Kevin Martin
27. Saša Vujačić
28. Beno Udrih

NOTE: That was actually a pretty deep draft; Varejão, Duhan, & Ariza were all 2nd round picks!

by smgmatt on Nov 26, 2008 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Who would I want after Dwight Howard?

Kevin Martin. LOL

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 26, 2008 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

That was my point (although I wouldn’t blame anyone who said Jefferson).

by smgmatt on Nov 26, 2008 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Still want Martin

Not as big a fan of Al Jefferson as other people. Kevin Martin’s worst team was 33 wins. Jefferson has played on multiple teams WORSE than that. His best team was a 45 win campaign I believe. And that was before the C’s traded away Toine, and Paul Pierce was still in his “prime prime prime”. Jefferson was not a major force of that team, although he contributed. As opposed to Kevin’s contribution to the 43 win team which was greater. I’m biased, but so are Jefferson fans. I’d rather have Kevin. He really is getting a lot better. I’m not sure that’s the case with Jefferson.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 26, 2008 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

That's OK

I think I’d still take Martin as well, but like I said, I wouldn’t begrudge Jefferson fans pushing Martin to 3rd.

by smgmatt on Nov 26, 2008 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Jefferson gets a ton more pub even now

than Martin usually gets. Martin’s lack of pub hurts him more than anything else I think in terms of visibility. Which is sad, but if the team starts winning, and he’s at the heart of it, and for this team to win games that will have to be true, then people will realize how much better Kevin Martin is than Al Jefferson.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 26, 2008 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Andres Nocioni went undrafted too

It was pretty deep. Josh Smith at 17 and Childress at 6? Only one’s playing with the Hawks right now.

by rc360 on Nov 26, 2008 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

That's because the Hawks are stupid

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 26, 2008 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoa

What a great draft pick by us. Damn. But Dwight Howard here would be nice.

Wack To Mack With The General and The Back. (J-Mac and D-Mac)

by Rayder K on Nov 26, 2008 2:00 PM PST reply actions  

We also drafted well

in the 2007 draft with Hawes. but messed up in 2006 with Douby.

Wack To Mack With The General and The Back. (J-Mac and D-Mac)

by Rayder K on Nov 26, 2008 2:05 PM PST reply actions  

yep

2006 was a clear miss.

Don’t put up the guys drafted after Douby again – uhg!

2004? You could make an argument for some of the guys before KM – but it would just be an argument, not definative.

Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !

by lietothegirls on Nov 26, 2008 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't really think it's a mess

Man, I gotta research the fanpost’s I wanna write on this stuff. Crap. Oh well.

I think what happened with Douby, to summarize quickly, is that he and Garcia didn’t fit together like the team had hoped. I’d really rather have Bobby Brown than Rajon Rondo to be honest.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 26, 2008 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't

and I don’t think many would agree with you on that.

Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !

by lietothegirls on Nov 26, 2008 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Groovy

People didn’t readily agree with me to move Artest in March 2007 either. It happens. I march to the beat of American Pie. :)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 26, 2008 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

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