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Diagramming a Trainwreck

Obviously, the Kings lost Friday's game in Utah in 12 minutes -- the third quarter. For those busy doing pilates or raking leaves, the game was tied at 50 at the half. The Jazz entered the third quarter leading 94-70. BLARGH. Simply awful.

How did it happen? Take a look, if you dare.

*****

Jazz Poss #1: Mehmet Okur turnaround jumper from 12' over Brad Miller, on a set-up from Deron Williams. 52-50.

Kings Poss #1: Miller misses 16-foot set shot from left side on a set-up by Beno Udrih. Shot taken with 7 seconds left on the shot clock.

Jazz Poss #2: Williams hits a wide open Okur on the right baseline for a wide open 12-footer. Good. 54-50.

Kings Poss #3: Udrih drives from right to left, bounce pass to Miller from the left corner, no good.

Jazz Poss #4: Jazz push in transition, C.J. Miles goes 1-on-1 on John Salmons (with Donté Greene and Mikki Moore arriving just behind the play), Miles takes to the rim and draws an iffy foul. Miles hits both. 56-50.

Kings Poss #4: Udrih sets up Miller from 18 feet straightaway. Missed.

Jazz Poss #5: Williams drives right side, gets caught in traffic, rolls it out to the top of the key, gets it through to Miles for three. Good. 59-50.

Kings call timeout.

Kings Poss #5: Miller passes to Greene, who is coming off a screen at the left elbow. Greene shoots a three ... missed. Udrih chases the long rebound and is fouled. Francisco Garcia comes in for Greene. Miller sets up Salmons from 18-feet, left side of the top of the key. Missed. Garcia offensive rebound in traffic. Udrih gets it on the left side, tosses a lazy lob back to Miller at the top ... batted by Williams. Turnover.

Jazz Poss #6: Williams breaks out and hits Ronnie Brewer in transition. Brewer draws the foul, hits the first, Okur gets the offensive rebound on the second. Williams sets up, penetrates softly to about 12 feet, kicks it back to Okur at the top who swings to Miles left side. Miles takes a three ... missed. 60-50.

Kings Poss #6: Kings move the ball around a bit. Miller hits Garcia in the lane, but there's too much traffic. Garcia dribbles out toward Miller on the left side, stops 15 feet from the basket, turns around, and pulls a trigger on a hurried baseline jumper. Missed.

Jazz Poss #7: Williams presses on a 3-on-2, but Salmons plays it well and the Jazz back out. Williams, from the left side, penetrates softly on a monster screen from Paul Millsap. Williams kicks to Okur at right elbow, from three ... swish. 63-50.

Kings Poss #7: On a high pick from Mikki Moore on the right side, Udrih dribbles to Miller at the top of the key. Moore streaks to the rim, and Udrih shovels to Miller. Okur and Brewer fill the lane, but Miller sends a bounce pass to Moore nonetheless. Turnover.

Jazz Poss #8: The Jazz press, even though the Kings get back. The defense is never set and Okur gets a wide open three from the left elbow. He misses, and the ball hits the shot clock.

Kings Poss #8: Salmons has the ball left baseline. He drives to the rim, keeps his dribble alive under the basket and finds Udrih open at the top. Udrih dribbles to the free throw line -- still open -- and hits the 15-footer. 63-52.

Jazz Poss #9: Miles has the ball right baseline. He crosses Salmons and gets into the lane. The rotation is poor, and Miles scoops in a bucket easily. 65-52.

Kings Poss #9: Miller at the high post. Garcia slips backdoor right baseline. Miller hits him, and Garcia fakes before getting a lay-up. It's the first shot of the half from inside 15 feet for the Kings. 65-54.

Jazz Poss #10: Salmons breaks up the called play on the right side. Eventually, Williams has the ball on the right side. Moore helps push Williams baseline -- great defense from Moore here. But Williams, heading out of bounds, fires a brilliant passes to a streaking Miles, who lost Salmons in a millisecond. Miles hits the lay-up, as Miller's rotation is late. 67-54.

Kings Poss #10: After a loose ball foul on the Jazz, Spencer Hawes enters for Moore. Garcia and Miller set up a high pick-and-roll from the right side on the inbounds play. Garcia flutters towards the lane while Miller cuts hard to the basket, losing Okur, who stepped out on Garcia. Garcia hits MIller perfectly, Millsap challenges, but Miller lays it in. 67-56.

Jazz Poss #11: I think the Kings were a zone here. It's hard to tell, considering Williams just dribbled casually to the right elbow, whipped a pass to the left block ... where Brewer was absolutely wide open and finished with a dunk. I think Okur was supposed to screen Salmons so Brewer could slip backdoor, but Salmons was playing so soft out there (hence, the zone guess) that Okur didn't have to come within three feet of Salmons. Miller watched Okur the whole time, but still wasn't in position to challenge a shot if Williams would have passed it to the left elbow instead. Basically, even though the Jazz ran about the most basic non-iso play in the book, the Kings defended it as poorly as possible. Miller and Salmons might have well as laid down on the ground, put on a sleeping mask and taken some Nyquil. The result would have been no worse, unless Okur decided to tickle Miller. You know, I take it back. Miller's defense on the play was not so bad Okur could have tickled Miller without repercussions. It could have been worse. 69-56.

Kings Poss #11: A decent screen-roll with Miller and Udrih, followed by a give-and-go between Hawes and Udrih ends with a Udrih three from the right corner. Missed. If the Jazz played defense like the Kings played defense, Hawes and/or Miller and/or Udrih would have ended up with a lay-up. Because the Jazz know how to play team defense, the Kings ended up with a Beno Udrih three.

Jazz Poss #12: Williams shrugs off a high pick-and-roll with Millsap, and waits for Millsap to roll out on the right baseline from about 12 feet. Hawes stays with Millsap on the initial roll into the lane, but slags off as Millsap moves away from the basket ... I assume Hawes is waiting for Williams to drive. Williams does not drive, and hits the open Millsap from 12. Millsap hits. Not terrible defense from Hawes -- you'd rather a Millsap fadeaway than a Millsap dunk or a Williams lay-up. 71-56.

Kings Poss #12: Hawes sets up on the left block against Millsap. He backs in and floats into the lane for the hook. Help comes, but no help can defend a Spencer Hawes hook. 71-58.

Jazz Poss #13: Williams moves the ball up quickly, though the Kings get back. Williams drives one-on-one on Udrih into the lane. Garcia helps, but Udrih draws the foul. Hawes rotated a bit late. Miller didn't rotate at all, but he was on the opposite side of the play and he probably ought to stick with Okur anyways. Williams hits one. 72-58.

Kings Poss #13: Salmons goes iso right side, hits a 17-foot turnaround. 72-60.

Jazz Poss #14: Look up "defensive lapse" on Wikipedia. You'll see this play. Williams and Millsap, high pick at the left elbow. Millsap slips it as Miller apparently stays to trap Williams. Of course, the gap between Miller and Udrih is three car lengths wide. Williams makes an easy bounce pass to Millsap. Salmons sees it -- he's looking straight at the play. But his rotation is half-hearted and late. (He seems tired and/or bored.) Hawes rotates, but goes for the block 10 feet away from the basket. (This is where Millsap takes off. Hawes is at the peak of his jump as Millsap takes off. To be fair, Hawes had three fouls at the time.) Millsap soars for the dunk. Bleehhhhh. 74-60.

Kings Poss #14: Garcia dribbles left and takes a floating, fading 20-footer which (shockingly) rims out.

Jazz Poss #15: Williams hits Brewer with an outlet. Brewer catches, fakes to the rim, steps back, then attacks after the defense commits. Miller offers good effort, but Brewer takes him right under the rim for a reverse lay-in. Millsap screens off Hawes nicely, preventing him from getting into the play. To be honest, it doesn't really appear Hawes wants to get into the play though. Garcia is there, but isn't able to stay with Brewer. Salmons has the opportunity to help on the weak side, but elects to stay between the ball and Miles, who is parked at the left elbow. 76-60.

Kings Poss #15: Kings bailed out on a bad entry pass from Miller to Hawes with a foul on Millsap. After the inbounds, Miller tries to backdoor it to Salmons. The spacing is awful (Miller and Salmons are about six feet from each other) and Miles is actually between Miller and Salmons. If Geoff Petrie came up with a chemical which rendered the ball invisible to the opponent but perfectly visible to the Kings, this ball would still have been stolen. If Miles had no arms, this ball would still have been stolen. If Miles was an armless blind tomato worm, this ball would still have been stolen.

Jazz Poss #16: Miller fouls to either break up the fast break or show his frustration. He leaves the game, replaced by Jason Thompson. Millsap is replaced by Andrei Kirilenko. Kings are in the penalty; Miles hits both. 78-60.

Kings Poss #16: Thompson and Garcia miscommunicate. Garcia's going to Albany. Thompson thinks Garcia is going to Buffalo, and sends the ball Media Mail to Buffalo. Garcia makes it to Albany and doesn't understand why the ball is in Buffalo. They discuss things. Meanwhile ...

Jazz Poss #17: ... Utah blows a fast break with a bad outlet pass.

Timeout with 3:37 left in the quarter, and that's a good place to end it.

*****

That's 28 points in 17 possessions for the Jazz -- brilliant offense made more silky by a stunningly dreadful Kings defense. It's really something to watch these plays over again a few times. Like, I knew the Millsap dunk and the Brewer dunk were really terrible defensive plays in real-time. I sat there, I saw the plays, and I frowned. But watching it again -- my God, that is terrible. Miller might be the worst defender in the league. I haven't watched every team yet, and I certainly haven't seen too many teams in great detail. But really, this is not good. Not even close to good. Not even close to bad.

And Salmons -- we usually laud his defense. In the third quarter, he was almost as awful as Miller! He had one good defensive stand, where he almost turned out a steal. But he missed myriad rotations -- he saw the play and I assume he knows where he needed to be. He just didn't have the drive, determination, or desire to get there. His rotation on the Williams trap and Millsap dunk was truly atrocious. What happened to John Salmons? I wouldn't blame him for being tired -- he's been playing mega-minutes and carrying the offensive load -- but I'm not sure to seeing such cavalier defense from the guy. He was not helping the team out there.

But the Kings didn't help themselves with the atrocious offense (10 points in 16 possessions). Through the first half of the quarter, the team showed no interest in getting within 10 feet. The Jazz foul a lot -- more than any other team in the league. But the Kings refused to drive. Later, Miller started forcing it. Why the finesse? Okur's a good player, but he's not going to stop Hawes, Thompson or Miller from scoring from the block. Miles is long, a decent defender. But he isn't going to keep Salmons from getting to the rim. (We saw this plainly in the first half.) Sacramento is one of the best offensive teams in the league, and we watched a littany of off-balance jumpers and terrible backdoor passes through the third ... against an average defense. What the ufck, Kings?

I don't want to blame any one player, because every single dude in Kings purple had a bad game. Boo Kings. Boo.

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A, TZ, I hope you had a good Thanksgiving

B, I hope this game didn’t ruin the cheer that it most certainly brought. C, this team badly needs practice team. This team has played so many games, and and already taken 3 road trips, that it’s becoming a broken record, but at some point, this team really needs practice ime & health. Yes, I know the upcoming games are a problem, but I really don’t care. (I couldn’t find a link for the first half, and after hearing the 2nd half start, I just stopped trying.)

The problem with this team is A) the Schedule B) Injuries C) The pieces are still too mish-mashed to ever work consistently against an upper echelon opportunistic offensive/defensive team like Utah, and D) I don’t care how many people want Ricky Rubio, he wouldn’t have made a difference last night in winning the game, and B, not only that, Deron Williams would still have gotten where he wanted to go. The Kings probably would have played better offense because Rubio can penetrate, and that might have kept the game close.

Also, another problem is the insistence on getting value for Brad Miller. He’s not defensively worth anything anymore, and he keeps playing soft. If the Kings insist on playing hard to get with him, and I think they will, then trading him will be next to impossible. It is necessary that this team trade Mikki Moore, if for nothing else, that he’s making Reggie a scapegoat and glossing over the necessary things to make this team better in the long run.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 8:23 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

MM doesn't make me go mmm... either, but...

he is not the problem. Again, with Mikki he has limited talent but is a known entity and IMO a positive force on the bench, in the locker room and even on the floor given those limits. He is peripheral to the game plan, always has been for every team he has played with and always will be. He is also not expensive in terms of dollars and cents.
Brad Miller on the other hand is having a tough year. He is one of those guys who fill up the stat sheet which is really a damnation of the stat sheet – it is a mirage providing offensive but woefully lacking on the defensive end. Perhaps the stat sheet is the perfect simile of this Kings team, yet I digress. I have already given my opinion of #52 and I stick with it (forgive me for quoting myself: “He is a King: a slow footed, defensive liability, non shot blocking, clutch choking, great passing, offensively occassionally crafty, warm smiling, referee arguing, shouldn’t be driving the lane-ing, good ol’boy who made the most of his time and talent earlier in his career, talking about but not showing pride Sacramento King until his current contract ends.” geez I don’t know how to italicize) see http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2008/11/25/670582/brad-miller-friend-or-foe
Brad Miller, is the “anti-young” guy. He has experience but his limited athletic talents are being drained by wear and tear and age. I can’t speak to a guy’s desire with any fairness. Long story still long: the guy can’t defend. He reminds me of one those big guys in the over-30 leagues – he plays defense by just being in the way. He sometimes gets blocks by missing the first fake and being prepared for the second one. As much I expect we will revisit this subject countless times during this still young long season make no mistake – the guy is here to stay. At least we don’t have to stockpile him on the junk heap with Kenny Thomas. The offense does better with him and he is capable of having meaningful game time, just don’t know when or where.

by betweentheeyes on Nov 29, 2008 9:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree...sort of

Moore is a peripheral player for most teams he has played for but he is the starting power forward for the Sacramento Kings and regardless of his role in the offense, his rebounding/shot blocking numbers are worse than attrocious. There is something to be said about Miller and his ability to stuff the stat sheet while playing no defense but Moore doesn’t stuff anything. I do like how Moore sets picks- I think he stays on them longer than any other King because he has gotten the message that they aren’t going to hit him on the roll which is something that Kenny Thomas never learned. Moore finshes around the hoop when no one is guarding him which is a trait that Garcia has never learned. But Moore doesn’t box out, doesn’t reboud in traffic and when he lucky enough to get his hands on a ball, a three year old girl holding a cabbage patch kid in one hand can take the ball from him. I guees my perfect Mikki Moore would play the game like Justin Williams- not Barbara Walters.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on Nov 29, 2008 9:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

don't go Frankenstein on me

haha, I wish we could build players, but we can’t. As I said, coach calls your number, you play. Time for a classic quote: “don’t hate the player, hate the game”. Blame Reggie. And keep the great lines coming –
when he (is) lucky enough to get his hands on a ball, a three year old girl holding a cabbage patch kid in one hand can take the ball from him.

by betweentheeyes on Nov 29, 2008 9:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't beleive I read that

after watching it, I did find far more enjoyment reading your recap then watching the start of the second half live. I just don’t understand why Reggie plays the line-ups he does the starting group last night began the game poorly, once there were some subs made the Kings came back and tied the game at half ( isn’t that a sign that the starting line up wasn’t working?) So lets start the second half with the same line up and let the Jazz go on a 13-0 run, end of game. Everybody here knows I am friends with JT and think he should be the starting PF, but I don’t have a problem with him off the bench if Hawes starts. I just don’t understand the goal or hope for starting Miller and Moore, I JUST DON’T GET IT. Somebody please explain it to me

by Beagle12 on Nov 29, 2008 8:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand the Miller/Moore pairing

Being friends with JT is fine here: He’s a quality player and we want him here. Being Pro-Jt, and being Pro-Douby are 2 different things here.

I would live with the Kings lineup’s better if Miller AND Moore weren’t starting which isn’t the case. Reggie hurt himself moving JT back to the starting lineup once Moore was healthy, and it’s really unfortunate. I also think practice time will make Reggie realize that JT will always outplay Moore from here on out. (I also think a trade has to be imminent moving Mikki at some point.)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 9:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and to your points-

I still think Miller is the cog that moves the offense. I love both Hawes and JT but neither one is ready to take over the high post passing at this point. I think Thompson has the game to do, I know Hawes has the passing skills but he doesn’t look like he wants to pass…ever, which isn’t a bad thing because he has more moves than Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson in Wedding Crashers. Miller’s inept defense can be masked for 25 minutes a game when he plays along side young leapers like Thompson and Hawes. When Miller is standing next to Moore, it’s a whole other ballgame.

I watched the game at a friends house last night. In the middle of the 3rd quarter the Kings came out of a timeout and the camera focused on Mikki Moore who had this scoul on his face and forgetting my surroundings I yelled at the TV- “Stop giving us the stinkface and grab a fucking rebound you worthless 7 foot tall pussy!” Needless to say, everyone in the room felt my frustration. I hate that stupid scoul- It’s like when Webber used to do it and I would always think- what? are you going to go commit a white collar crime or something.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on Nov 29, 2008 9:20 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm recin'g this for one reason & reason only (great arguments too but whatever)
"Stop giving us the stinkface and grab a fucking rebound you worthless 7 foot tall pussy!"

Yet another classic JJ line.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 9:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

funny line...

I hate that stupid scoul- It’s like when Webber used to do it and I would always think- what? are you going to go commit a white collar crime or something.

can he be charged with stealing minutes?

I think focusing on MM is a mistake. The guy is a veteran pro and does what coach asks him to do. Don’t hate on that, please.

As for JT – nothing but love for the guy. He has talent, desire and personality to boot. But he is a rookie and Hawes is a half-rookie and 20 yrs old. You can’t play these guys 30+ minutes a night just yet. Or if you do, get ready for burnout. It will come. Patience my fellow fan, patience. Easy to say, hard to do.

by betweentheeyes on Nov 29, 2008 9:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Too many pieces...

Once everyone is healthy this team is going to be a mess. How do you find time for Garcia, Jackson, Brown, Greene backing up Udrih, Martin and Salmons? Where are Thompson/Hawes minutes going to come from when you can’t shift JT to the small? Theus is in a no win situation and he really hasn’t done much to instill confidence over the last week or so. Miller’s minutes need to drop to the mid-twenties, Moore needs to go away now- he is hurting this team with his typically marginal play and by taking minutes away from the youth. It’s time to scrap this whole winning thing, it’s obviously not working, and go to the develop Hawes, Thompson, Brown, Greene idea which is inevetable anyway. A three man rotation in the post with Miller, Thompson starting and Hawes coming in early is appropriate. Cutting Salmons to 32-33 minutes a game, banishing B-Jax to the pine and placing Udrih on turnover watch will clear up some minutes for Brown, Greene and Garcia. I was hoping this season would look different like the rest of us here but it is time to scrap this shit and start cleaning house. 5 losses in the final possession still count as losses, regardless of who is hurt or how close the shot was.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on Nov 29, 2008 9:08 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

Well said

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 9:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

on this point we disagree

too many pieces? maybe, but this is team short on talent. We have many role players (I am on the Hawes, JT, Donte, BB band wagon but until they are stars, they aren’t), but we need more star power. Coach Theus will have more pieces to work with, he won’t complain about it I am sure.

by betweentheeyes on Nov 29, 2008 9:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

stars take over games

did any of you catch the Miami Heat game – DWade is a bonafide stud. Did you catch the Lakers/Dallas game last night? Dallas was up 65-56 and the boom! only up by 2 in one minute. Mavs lost by 10. That is talent and star power. The Kings are just not there yet and we have a ways to go.

by betweentheeyes on Nov 29, 2008 9:43 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Excellent points

The Kings also lack some offensive punch and talent without Martin and a full speed Garcia too. This team has to play more methodically without Kevin, and so far, they don’t always seem to understand that.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 9:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think of him as a solid player

Whom if the Kings were playing better, and if they were healthy, which isn’t an excuse, I think people would think of him better than what we’re currently saying at the moment.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 10:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't hate on Salmons too much

I think if there’s one player that’s really missing Martin and a full speed Garcia it’s him.

He needs that pressure of him. I mean the guy looks tired mentally out there. Also, some plays they just give it to Salmons and clear it out, I mean he’s good one on one but teams know Salmons is really our biggest threat on offense so they collapse on him all the time.

When Martin was Healthy I think he averaged the most assist for the Kings. I’m not sure but I seem to remember one game he had like 6 assist.

It also doesn’t help that Brad and Miller haven’t exactly played well offensively so really the offense for the starters relies on Salmons and Beno…ewww.

"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."

by Apoet on Nov 29, 2008 11:03 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I didn't see the game which was a good thing I think.

If I remember correctly, MMoore has made three fantastic defensive stops after a time out. Other than that you get what you get, mostly mediocre. I still think we need Brad this season playing point forward really rather than C where the offensive is directed through him. I don’t think of him as a stat stuffer really, he does what he does which is what he has always done but he isn’t doing it as well this year. His tech foul in the Nets game…..inexcuseable. He does need to go but I don’t think it will happen. Next year as an expiring he should be very tradeable.

I hope we can trade MMoore this season but I don’t see us getting much for him though.

So the reality, the team we have now is the team we are going to have for the rest of the season. You can work the Trade Machine all you want, get creative and impress your friends but most of the trades we have seen have essentially salary dumps in preperation for 2010, though the Nugs are looking improved with Chauncey.

So it comes down to this: We are going to lose a bunch of games. Our kids are going to get a good deal of playing time which is only a good thing looking long term. JT is getting a lot of burn and his game is maturing faster than most of us would have expected. Donte’ is looking more like a young big and common knowledge is that it takes about 3 years for a big to come into his own. Whether he is playing 3 or 4 the bottom line is he’s still 6’-11".

Spencer is blowing me away almost every night and the growth of his game rooky year vs sophomore year is dang impressive.

BBrown has been inconsistent and along with our other kids ((as pooky mentions really needs some practice time) possibly some d league time.

Ultimate Reality: We are rebuilding, it’s not a pretty thing. When BM and MM, QD, SW, K9 (woof!) are gone and our team is starting to get good we will look back at this season for what it really was, a necessary (ugly) stop on the path to relevance and winning basketball.

"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley

by Bluejohn on Nov 29, 2008 11:19 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

I'll do you one better

Beautiful eloquence in it’s simplicity.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 3:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You gave me reason to say it

Therefore you get the inspiration, and hence you win! I win because I say you win so therefore we all win in our agreement! Yay!

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 3:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There are people who would disagree with you

Starting with, sadly, me.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 3:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

#$%^&^**(()()(

Okay sir I’ll do my best to not drop the nucleur bomb on Japan when the Japanese make fun of Sacramento. Argh!

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 3:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hmmmm...

seems your Truman is more Jim Carrey than “buck stops here”. Let’s agree you are a work in progress

by betweentheeyes on Nov 29, 2008 3:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

why trade BThriller?

isn’t the beauty of his fat expiring contract the cap space it gives us in two summers?

Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.

by Holmdel on Nov 29, 2008 3:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not really

I mean what great Free Agent is this team going to sign? There’s probably going to be 15 teams with cap space, who will end up taking on a bad contract just to get over the minimum contract limit. In fact I’m willing to bet there will be any of those teams from 3-7 in that boat.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 3:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

send the BM to

The Clippers. I hear they need a big man, they only have 3 with monster contracts

by betweentheeyes on Nov 29, 2008 4:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

StR is awesome today

Why do anything else? (LIke Sleep?)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 4:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If Reggie keeps hanging on to the Miller/Moore combo, he deserves to be fired. The funny thing about the Reggie starting the veterans because he’s trying to win instead of rebuild which sure has been working, is that giving more minutes to Shock and Hawes will probably result in more wins. It’s not like S-H are an unfinished product like Donte is. They are bonafide starters on a lot teams. I’m not saying that they both should be getting 40+ minutes a game, but it is a complete JOKE anytime Moore has more minutes than either JT or Hawes. Miller’s minutes need to come down as well. No more than 30 per game. He does do some things on the offensive side well but he is such a terrible, terrible defender that his impact on the opposing team offense far outweighs his offensive impact for the Kings. The wierdest thing about Miller is last year I would call his defense mediocre to bad but it was nowhere near as awful as it is now. He actually averaged a decent block per game if I recall correctly. How he can go from Mr. Softie in Artest first two years here, to last year when he played great, to back to Mr. Softie will continue to bewilder me.

Ya know that famous folding chair Yi Jianlian used in his pre-draft workouts, would I be too realistic to think that chair could play better defense than Miller?

smell the ashes

by iamstern'skippah! on Nov 29, 2008 3:39 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Well said

That’s what I really don’t understand with the Moore and Miller combo. It’s hurting the team, and pairing Shock & Hawes with each guy is helpful to the team. I really think Reggie is being seriously arrogant with his belief that Moore is bringing something so valuable to the table that it can’t be replaced skippah.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 3:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone else think that this team is starting to look

a little too much like Reggie the player?

“Shoot first, defend later.”

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 3:48 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yes

I think Reggie’s career is underrated, but Reggie is basing this too much on his stated desires that the first goal of this team is to win. Your method’s don’t work, you have to try others.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 3:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

the guy is coaching for his job

I know, I am Mr. Obvious. The hollow steps of PJ and EJ (Carlessimo and Jordan) resonate down the unemployment hallway.

by betweentheeyes on Nov 29, 2008 3:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree Reggie

was a very good player, but he was defense optional. Much like this team.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 4:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Reggie could only keep the ball away from his own team

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by section214 on Nov 29, 2008 4:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't see Reggie play

But he had to be better as a PG than SG.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 4:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

as a player

his games was most like Gilbertt Arenas, Agent Zero. (pun intended)

by betweentheeyes on Nov 29, 2008 4:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Very carefully

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 4:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Always too late--That's my motto!

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 4:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh irony how i miss thee

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 4:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I watched the game

Without my contact lenses in. With a book in my hand. Having taken a Loratab.

It almost made it bearable.

Let's go home.-Kevin Martin

by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 29, 2008 4:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

You were at the Waste Dump

I mean Energy Solutions Arena?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 4:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No

At home recovering from that chained-to-the-stove marathon we call Thanksgiving.

Mercifully.

Though nothing could have been as bad as attending the game where Artest had his meltdown tantrum technical fouls and ejection.

Let's go home.-Kevin Martin

by LeaguePassAddict on Nov 29, 2008 4:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Were you & SB there?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Nov 29, 2008 4:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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