Game #19: Mavericks at Kings
by Tom Ziller on Nov 29, 2008 5:00 PM PST
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PrintDallas Mavericks at Sacramento Kings, Nov 29, 2008 7:00 PM PST
Close out November with a ... middle finger? I don't know.
Goodbye, November 2008. Thank you for your Shock and Hawes, your Johnny Salmons and your occasional insurgencies from Donté Greene and Bobby Brown. Good riddance to your injuries, your suspensions, your owner-coach spats, your injuries, your bad losses, your injuries and your injuries.
Let's go Kings.
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And here I was thinking "Where did that pre-game Haiku go?"
And here you go providing a beautiful poem that sums up the awfulness of Nov well.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Uh
They had won 5 in a row before loosing a close one last night to the Lakers. The rumors of their suckitude are a bit premature. Though it is probably the most winnable of our next 5 games. Go Kings!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
All young studs beggining the game finally!
Hokiehess@gmail.com
I think Reggie might suit up too.
Now he’s a veteran.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
NY Side note
Anyone see the boxscore on the Knicks GSW game? Wow! D.Lee 30-16, A. Hartington 30-10, Duhon with 19 assists. More unbelievable than Marbury finally getting suspended and P. Buress shooting himself in the leg(literally this time as opposed to the figural foot shooting he’s been doing since the off season). What a day for NY sports.
just looked, wow, Al Harrington says hi
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Starting lineups
- Beno
- Salmons
- Greene
- Moore
- Miller
Same as last night.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
brad is looking particularly atheletic tonight
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
1st play
Dallas dunk.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
e'?
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
That 3
was a couple of feet to the éast
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 7:14 PM PST up reply actions
NIce steal though
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Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
this is what i like to see
now let’s keep it up for all four quarters. I’ve noticed it’s always just one quarter that screws this team
Better shot that time
Donté
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
mikki + stud tonite
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Hey
don’t get a shot off out of a time out. There’s something you don’t see everyday from this team, only because they don’t play everyday.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Is that mikki's 5th board?
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Yahoo
has him with 3, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s true.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
not yet
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
There he is
whole 2nd team in now.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
bobby buckets
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Stop doing those little traps...
IT ALWAYS RESULTS IN AN OPEN SHOT FOR THE OPPOSITE TEAM
Jeez
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
Ugh
29-20 after 1. We’re shooting about 33%.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
that is just sick horrible way to finish the quarter
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Dallas's 3pt % is better than their FG % right now
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Here's hoping Garcia didn't aggravate his injury again...
He looks so rusty…
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
He's not in game shape yet
Btw… how the heck do you back up from Nowitzki with the ball?
BOOK IT!
It isn't pretty on
either end of the court.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
It's amazing how one of our opponents bench player always has a breakout game when they play the kings
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
That's Sacramento's patented
“Make your roll-player look like an all-star” program.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
JT is really
struggling and frustrated.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
JT
Is playing to impress right now. How can you expect him to be comfortable when he knows Reggie will yank him if he doesn’t contribute?
Yeah I was thinking that too
He looks really eager to just contribute as fast as possible rather than let the game come to him.
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
Luckily
Dallas is struggling to hit shots a bit too.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
He's on his way if he can get enough assists
10 pts 7 boards 3 assists.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
Great play Moore
get beat off the dribble and then push him in the back as he’s laying it in.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
3 pt. play
for Dirk.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
46-38 Dallas at the half
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Could be worse...
…that crappy Maloof bro-metal band could be the halftime entertainment instead of the……roller skating?
by discocricket on Nov 29, 2008 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
Does anyone still believe
We are a “young team”?
Not if you look at the minutes.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
But in a league where Eddie Jordan can be fired for losing with that horrid Wizards team..
Theus has to watch out for his job security
Need to come out with energy
to start the 3rd. Move the ball and hit some shots.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Tough shot Salmons
maybe it will get him going.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Guess not
wide open 3 and John air balled it.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
9th rebound
for Beno!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
I think I understand why beno doesn't want to pass the ball to anybody
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
I swear sometimes I think brad has narcolepsy
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Mikki caught a pass!
Mikki caught a pass!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
exactly
just because you get the rebound does not mean you get to shoot
by SeattleRoyalty on Nov 29, 2008 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
He's definitely
a long way from being a starter or decent rotation player.
by discocricket on Nov 29, 2008 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
cisco's leg doesn't look that good
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
4 more Assists Beno!
Remember when a Dallas/Sac game meant 120 points for each team?
look at the FG percentages for this game
if somebody could shoot the ball it could happen
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
must be good d
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
does that mean they are only 3 games behind us?
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Durant is a pretty good
SF too. 30 pts and 7 rebounds.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
He's very inconsistent though
Not a great shooter. But when he’s on he’s on
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
He's been much better
so far as a SF. PJ had him playing SG.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
flop
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
that would be sheldon and QD?
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Wow, we're
0-9 from 3 now.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
brad's tired put spence in
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Spencer is in
put JT in.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
soeey he's in
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Good News!
Yahoo has every player on our team with a NEGATIVE +/-
If yr not happy with the results, lower yr expectations.
i'm not being negative but that's not unusual
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Garcia
is so rusty. His defense has been great though.
Did Thompson touch the floor this quarter?
This is ridiculous. Keep playing a pf that means nothing for our future
Nope.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
Reggies rotations
are pissing me off.
There’s no logic to them; this is borderline Musselman caliber.
If yr not happy with the results, lower yr expectations.
Down 19 end of 3
I’m so glad we’re playing or veterans big minutes to get the win.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Thompson and Hawes=12 minutes COMBINED
put me in the Reggie Theus is incompetent bandwagon. Any other coach would love to play those guys,
Wow...JT didn't get on the floor once in the third...
Still, We’re only down 19, we need to be losing by 20 before Theus plays the young guys.
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
Salmons to the locker room....
omg someone shoot me…. I blame TZ for the hubris!
If yr not happy with the results, lower yr expectations.
Douby sighting
Reggie threw in the towel.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Sad thing is
That this lineup, with the exception of QD, is what I’ve been waiting all game to see…
If yr not happy with the results, lower yr expectations.
No doubt
it’s just frustrating to have to watch 36 minutes of veteran ineptitude to get to this point.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
Sigh
Wow… I don’t care if Kevin Martin is back, but this team will still stink.
BOOK IT!
Bobby Jackson looks angry
I bet he just remember he left the television on at home
The bill is going to be so high
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
As long as Reggie Theus is coaching...
this team will never be better than mediocre. And we’ll be lucky if they get there.
If I was reggie's wife I'd hide the keys to the gun safe tonight
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Wow
Bobby Jackson shooting 14% from 3 on the season. More minutes for BJax!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
I think he just wanted to get away from this
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
Douby just hit a 3?
1-14 from 3 now.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
nope it was a 2
still 0-13 for the game.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
I think Reggie's goal is to be down by 20- at the 4th quarter everygame
and give the young guys practice in coming back from impossible situations. And can you think of another coach who throws the towel with 12 minutes left?
6 straight losses at home
most since 97-98 season
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
What the hell
Why are we not running an offense?
Slow down a bit JT.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
we could break 70 tonight
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
turkey.......ugh!
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
I'm convinced Theus doesn't know how to develop young players
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
He's only
worried about saving his career and I don’t really blame him for that.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
But he does need
the youth to contribute or there is no way we can win. And he hasn’t developed that and that I blame him for.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Nov 29, 2008 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
This is why Theus is a bad coach:
It does completely no good to run all your rookies at once, as much as we’d all love to see it. If you want them to run the starting sets and plays you need to have some of the starting line up on the floor with your young players.
At least let them get some “good” reps, instead of garbage ones…
If yr not happy with the results, lower yr expectations.
Spencer taking in to the hoop.
more please!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
we have broken the 70 pt barrier
"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley
At least Slamson looks good
Theus is probably going to start him now.
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
When someone like Donte
plays this selfishly, the coach has to take him out. Unfortunately, we have a coach who did the same things when he was a player,
Good game by Beno
and that’s the only positive to come out of this game.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Hopefully this is the true low point of the season
Regardless of victories.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Just got in from the game -
Since this would be “The Spew From Section214,” I’ll spare everyone the long post.
74-36 is the 3rd quarter total over the past two nights. Right or wrong, this is the kind of stuff that costs coaches their jobs.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
If this sheet keeps up....
Reggie will be unemployed. Team is coming out flat to start games, and they look like ZOMBIES coming out in the 3rd qtr. Brad Miller = a 5 on 4 defensive disadvantage. He is either getting abused by whoever he is defending (including guards) or someone has to double Brad’s man because Brad can not cover anyone in the league, and the player left open scores. Other teams design their offense to take advantage of Brad Miller. He is THE WORST defender at his position in the entire NBA. Until Hawes replaces Miller and we can find a reliable backup center, these kind of losses are going to be commonplace. What little Miller contributes on the offense in his shooting and passing is completly overshadowed by how many points the opposite team scores as a direct result of Brad Miller’s allergy to defense and rebounding. Moore isnt much better defensively, so the Kings starting lineup is just not very good.The time has come for radical change in the starting lineup. The starters should be:
Beno – Career bench player we have to start for now,,,
Martin – Only legit player on the team – team is non-competitive when he does not play
Salmons – Has worked hard to improve each year. Outside shot is still shaky
JT – Could become a dominant force around the bucket – A great sucess story.
Hawes – Biggest Surprise, Rebounding and Blocked shots are needed
Second Squad:
Brown/Jackson (limited 10-15 minutes)
Garcia
Greene
Moore
Miller
Garbage time players:
Kenny Thomas – attitude problem – real jerk
Sheldon Williams – Fat and Pathetic – Giant 5th overall BUST !
Quincy Douby – Not NBA Material – will be NBADL bound wasted 2nd round pick.
Say what you will, but if Theus doesnt make these changes now when Martin gets back, he might not make it till the end of December. There is talent on this team, just not enough talent to win consistently. Playing in this fashion with the OLD Veterans has not produced any results. Losing at this point with this squad is inevitable and probably expected. Anyway, we need a lottery top 5 pick to get a franchise point guard. Then in 2010, we need to pick up a free agent difference maker. I’m only watching to see the developement of the youth movement anyway. Watching Hawes and Thompson is awesome. Watching Miller and Moore is as nauseating and painful as it has always been. The stands are mostly empty now, but Arco will be a morgue if Theus doesnt start the young bigs.
Well, on the bright side
The Kings are on their way for a top-3 draft pick next year.
"Oh, boy! This website is very good. Hey, let's talk about the Raiders!" - "Peaches" Napier
LOL Datl
Thanks for keeping it in perspective. Maybe that Mike Conley trade I keep throwing around ain’t so swell.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Went to the game...
…and I think Mikki and Brad are pathetic. They looked absolutely terrible tonight on offense and defense. Also, Beno needs to learn how to be a PG and get the team into plays. He seems to be showing he can’t handle the leadership of being a floor leader at PG. This could also be a Reggie Theus problem as far as running plays because the offense seemed stagnant tonight. Garbage time was the best part of the game to see all the young players play- with more competitive spirit and energy than the first unit.
It's all on Theus
Beno can’t be a PG if Theus is being a floor general out there from his seat, calling out every single play, calling time-outs on fast breaks and what not.
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