Reggie Theus and the Eternal Lack of Direction
Over at FanHouse, I have offered up Reggie Theus as the first potential victim of the midseason guillotine.

Of course, there are two competing questions when you consider any potential coaching change: should it happen? Will it happen? That FanHouse joint is tailored to the latter question ... and the evidence is pretty strong. You have to think that if the Maloofs and Geoff Petrie liked the way things went last year, they'd have guaranteed the 2009-10. I mean, it's not like these dudes are shy about locking folks in. Twenty-five or more NBA teams would have let Francisco Garcia get to restricted free agency, because chances are that Garcia wouldn't sign for more than $6 million a season as an RFA ... even with a European team. But the Kings found $6 million to be a fair salary, and they awarded it. They gave him what he asked for and hoped for the best. Might not be the best strategy, but it's Sacramento's current M.O. (It was also the M.O. as Chris Webber and Mike Bibby sought long, lucrative contract extensions a half-decade ago.) The M.O. didn't carry to the coach. The rest of the world saw a cat who set his mish-mosh gang to Overachiever status. The Kings front office saw something much, much less.
But let's get moral for a second: should Theus get canned? Does he deserve to be fired? On a parallel but distinct track, does he deserve his job? I wish job loss on no one, first and foremost. I hate hate the pitchfork-carrying crews who demand salvation via someone else's misery. I will never campaign for Theus' unemployment, I'll never offer some random threat to stop watching until dude is gone. Maybe that's more visceral, more honest ... but it's a little too detached for my taste. But we can discuss the team's prospects with Reggie at the helm, and consider whether things would be better otherwise. We can have an honest debate about the issue with rushing to cannon turrets and picket lines.
Since Rick Adelman was not offered a new contract (he didn't get fired -- keep that straight), this team has -- above all else -- lacked any sort of direction or philosophy. Fifty games into Eric Musselman's lone season in Sacramento, Brad Miller told the media he did not know his role in the offense. Brad Miller, possibly the most important offensive player on the team in '06-07 and one of the most skilled centers of the modern era, had no clue where he was supposed to be or what he was supposed to do. That's on the coach. You watch your team suck for more than half a season and you still can't implement your system at the most basic level? FAIL. If Miller doesn't know what he's supposed to do, how is the team supposed to perform? Even with all the talent in the world (which the Kings have not had the luxury of since April 2004), an aimless, confused team isn't going to win.
Enter Theus. Can anyone honestly explain Theus' philosophy? Can anyone define the offensive system? Can anyone look at a single positive play from the Theus era and say, "That is Reggie Theus basketball!" (Notice I said "positive play"; I can think of a few turnovers that ably represent the past 86 games.) I consider myself a fairly plugged-in fan. I watch all the games closely, sometimes more than once. I read every word I can find about the team ... analysis, news, opinion, first-hand comment from the actors involved. I think about issues pertaining to the team's present performance and future hopes are inordinate, possibly disgusting amount of the time. And I have no clue what this team is supposed to be doing on any given play. You wonder why the idea the Kings would implement the Triangle offense this fall caused so much maniacal laughter? Look at the product. There's no method. There's no cohesive idea. There's nothing defined out there. Thirteen months after Coach Theus began implementing his style, the team is still a glorified pick-up team.
For all his faults, Adelman implemented an idea, a style, a definition. You knew the Kings in 2005, even though they sort-of sucked. You knew exactly the motive each possession. Again: he had faults; he had lost Bibby completely, he didn't hold any feet to the fire, save those belonging to Garcia and Ronnie Price, his defensive philosophy was too laissez-faire for Smith. But like Mike D'Antoni's seven seconds or Larry Brown's Right Way or Don Nelson's freak show or Stan Van Gundy's cerebral banality or Jeff Van Gundy's molasses pit, Adelman had a philosophy: ball movement, work the high post, cut cut cut.
Theus preaches ball movement ... and cuts ... and working out of the high post ... and working from the post ... and isolation ... and transition ... and the pick and pop ... and the pick and roll ... and crashing the offensive boards ... and getting back in transition ... and ...
What's the emphasis? I don't know. You don't know. I don't think Spencer Hawes or Kevin Martin know. It's quite possible Theus doesn't know. No one knows ... because there isn't one.
I made a bad joke about rudders the other day. But that's real: this team (in the physical, on-court sense) has no course. We know what the front office is doing. But it won't matter if the team has no identity on the floor. The coach's job is to implement an identity, to take a bucket of parts (some perfect, some useless, most somewhere in between) and turn it into a machine of some quality. It's one thing to have a bad machine. If you build a bicycle with square wheels and handlebars made out of poundcake, that bicycle is going to suck. But it's a bicycle. There's a chance it can get you somewhere.
This team is still going a bucket of parts, as it has been for 13 months. Sometimes, you can jump on own of the tires and it can carry you to Point B. But usually it's just disorder; the machine has to be rebuilt every possession because there isn't a thing holding it together. You get somewhere -- a win streak, an upset victory -- but it's not a repeatable act because it all happened by chance. A team with a vision knows exactly where each part goes, what each part needs to do. Win or lose, the machine stays in tact and can give it another shot. With no vision, the commencement of each attack is pure chaos.

There are available coaches who bleed vision. For offense, there's Flip Saunders. For defense, there's Avery Johnson. Neither is perfect ... hell, maybe neither is good. The evidence (for Flip and for Avery) suggests both coaches are indeed quite good, but that's almost immaterial. A definition is what this team needs from the bench right now, and Theus has been unable to provide it. Someone else can make it happen.
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I completely agree. Motivation – direction = confusion and ineffectiveness.
Even with bad teams, a coach with a system will find ways to be competitive. Look at what Jerry Sloan has done. I agree with the OP that a coach doesnt have to subscribe to any given system, but there has to be a system.
by Citadel 29 on Nov 5, 2008 12:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Good Post Z
I too have noticed how the offense seems stagnant and disjointed. I can never figure out what they want to do out there. They have good parts: Kevin, Salmons, Spencer. They can score and in many different ways, but it’s all a mish-mosh at the moment. I hear Theus say he wants the Kings to be a “running team” sopposedly because he has the personnel for it. I disagree. Other than Shock, Kevin and little used Bobby Brown, I don’t see a running team. Spencer can run but he’s no Amare Stoudemire. Beno is NOT a running PG like Nash or Paul. Mikki can run but can he catch? Salmons can catch and finish but can he run well?
To be a great running team, you have to have two main things: One, players (usually wings and a PF) that can run AND play above the rim, and two, players that can pass on the full run and in traffic. Other than Donte’ Greene, I don’t see any high flying finishers on this team. Kevin can do it on an ally-oop but is not going to dunk over people. Beno and Garcia are decent half-court passers but not very good at threading the needle or throwing that pinpoint pass on the full sprint.
The Kings should run when they have the opportunity but their personnel (Hawes, Miller, Beno, Garcia, Salmons, JT) are MUCH better suited for a cutting, backdoor motion offense. I think Reggie knows this but he needs to focus most of his plays on this. So far this year, there has not been enough pick-n-rolls between Beno and Moore/Spencer/JT. None of the Kings guards have penetrated enough and if they are stuck on the perimeter, that will just render the PF to watching when on offense and will cause Salmons and Martin to have to create with the dribble, which is the antithesis of a motion offense.
Not surprising to see an 0-4 record. The Kings do need Miller back though. Maybe with him back, Theus will feel more comfortable to running the high-post offense which creates more cuts, movement and passing. My question is: why couldn’t this offense be run through Hawes?
I don’t think Theus’ job is in jeapordy yet. He had a horrible start to last years season and made it work. Not only that but what can a coach do with 2 of his 6 best players missing and playing on the road four games to start the season? It should get better. Tonight against the Grizz would be a good start. Still no Miller or Garcia though.
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by dalt99 on Nov 5, 2008 1:00 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
spot on
“None of the Kings guards have penetrated enough and if they are stuck on the perimeter, that will just render the PF to watching when on offense and will cause Salmons and Martin to have to create with the dribble, which is the antithesis of a motion offense.”
The Kings guard don’t penetrate (Samons the exception) because none of them handle the ball all that well. Martin has a difficult time creating on his own as does Beno. It was painful watching Miami attack our guards/wings on the perimeter last week. So, this issue is not likely to go away.
We need more ball movement and less dribbling.
by Kusian on Nov 5, 2008 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with Kusian
Excellent analysis dalt.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 5, 2008 2:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice TZ, Nice Dalt
I love it, ‘Mikki can run but can he catch?’ I’d have said salmons can run and finish but can he pass? (pass it UP the freakin court! – You too Beno!)
I am soooo tired of seeing our guards trapped out on the perimeter and everyone standing there, CUT! MOVE!
Anyway, don’t know how much I added . . .
Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !
by lietothegirls on Nov 5, 2008 5:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What system would you run?
I have to admit when I first heard he was going to a uptempo system I was skeptical. A team that didn’t rebound and turned the ball over too much, trying to speed things up just sounded wrong. Now, the triangle that’s different. First, it’s basicly 3 on 3 or 2 on 2 ball. So, you only need a good passing big, an outsice shooter, and someone to go to the rim. That and the pick and pop, I thought we could do.
Well, the uptempo has worked some, but they don’t rebound well enough to make a big up side. Then there’s the turnovers which have increased because of the increased pace of the uptempo run outs. So, that’s a wash.
As for the triangle, I’ve seen about one or two plays a game that even look like a triangle. But, mostly I see a team that can’t even set a decent screen or pick especially the bigs. And the guards aren’t making good cuts or running the defender into the screens. Now, you can blame that on the coach, but I got to believe that a pro should know these basic bb moves.
There’s nothing in Jeff Van Gundy’s system that will make Moore or Miller good defensive stoppers in the paint. Or, make Beno or BJax quick enough to stay in front of their man.
Theus inherited this mess. He didn’t create it. The rookies are coming along, and if it wayn’t for his work with Cisco who knows how he would have worked out. I say give him time. The worst he can do is cost us the #1 pick in the draft, by getting the team to come together like last year.
TZ, if you have an idea of a system that will work with this group let’s hear it.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on Nov 5, 2008 1:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
these two sentences
“A team with a vision knows exactly where each part goes, what each part needs to do. Win or lose, the machine stays in tact and can give it another shot.”
Immediately, made me think of San Antonio.
Great post, TZ. Well written.
p.s. The first time I read the post I thought you had written " too laissez-faire for Keynes," which struck me as odd. But now I just noticed it says “Smith.” So, maybe given the tragedy of last night, I had Keynesisan economics on my brain. We are all going to get a bunch of it soon enough ;-)
by Kusian on Nov 5, 2008 1:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Or....
… maybe someone had a brain flub and later edited the post to actually make sense.
by Ziller on Nov 5, 2008 3:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Discussing or even knowing the difference
between Keynes and Smith places us both firmly in the “geek” category ;)
by Kusian on Nov 5, 2008 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At least it's an offense
As I read through this, I couldn’t help but think of the Big Lebowski: “Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it’s an ethos.”
by kpelton on Nov 5, 2008 1:36 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
i see where you are coming from
one of my room mates who doesn’t watch much basketball asked me what kind of offense the kings run. i tried to answer him as honestly as i could and it took me over a half hour of rambling, none of it making any sense. That being said, I don’t think we should fire Reggie, which if i am not mistaken was the whole point of this post.
by nmanich on Nov 5, 2008 1:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Some things
First off I disagree about Adelman. Bibby didn’t do his job, and continued to not do it. He’s one of the worst defenders in the NBA. And his offense wasn’t good to make up for that. So I disagree on Adelman, but that’s one of the area’s we always were bound to disagree on. It’s a moot point since it’s highly unlikely Adelman will ever return to the EC anyway.
I agree that the team has looked lost, but I think that would say more about Reggie if that was really the case a month into the season. All the things you say are true TZ, and a well argued/written piece (I wouldn’t expect anything less), but that being said, I can see the biggest problem with Theus is that right now it’s hard to argue in HIS favor. He doesn’t have any player playing above & beyond regardless of him except JT. (I suspect he plays that way for him.) I want to give Theus time before I throw him under the bus. However, it will be hard to deny if, as you say, if the Kings aren’t better than the Thunder in a month, then well, that goes that.
As far as Avery Johnson goes, No thanks. He’s one of the most overrated coaches ever, and he would be just as poor a choice as Theus if the Kings don’t continue to perform. I like the idea of Saunders quite a bit, especially if the Kings are young, and Saunders is given patience, but the greater issue I think with Saunders, is that Cleveland could fire Mike Brown and hire Saunders and Flip would take that job, not only cuz of Bron, but also because Cleveland is his hometown. But if I have a choice between Flip and Avery, it’s never Avery, and absolutely Flip.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 5, 2008 2:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Furthermore
After reading the linked article to Amick’s blog post, I agree with this part wholeheartedly:
I’ve yet to have someone tell me how “Disney on Ice” takes priority over the Kings at Arco Arena.
The show which was at Arco last week was booked before the NBA schedule was set, as confirmed in this report a while back. Yes, times are tight and this was certainly an economic decision on someone’s part. But if there was one team in the NBA this season that needed to start at home (and even moreso after Miller and Garcia went down), it was this one. Not to mention the fact that this was the Kings’ fifth consecutive season starting on the road. I’m guessing Theus didn’t visit Mickey at Disneyworld in Orlando and doubt he’ll pay his respects in any of the four LA trips either. – Sam Amick
I mean seriuosly, this is dumb. 5 seasons in a row? This was bad luck, but a road trip is a road trip. I think we’re all just jumping the gun too much here. I think too many people are too worried about this team. It was a 25-35 win team at best. Why worry about 4 losses in a row? I just think the nervous collective energy spent in fretting over this team’s failure is filling the void of what good things you can talk about this team, since most of the recent news that this team is making has been pretty much negative, or dis-concerting.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 5, 2008 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
its not the record...
I hate to presume what TZ was arguing, but I don’t think he was suggesting that the record is the reason for concern… If the semblance of a team (both offensively and defensively) had gone out and competed and lost 4 road games, no one would be suggesting Theus is part of the problem…we’d all say youth was the main issue. But TZ is correct to point out that its hard to identify any basic basketball philosophy being employed on the court… in my view, not just on offense, but defensively too. I’m not a basketball expert, but if you watch much basketball, you can start to identify set plays that good teams seem to run, particularly when they need a hoop. 4 games in, and I agree with TZ that you really can’t see what they are trying to do. The cause is more difficult to determine at this point and I’m not yet willing to put it on Theus just yet….but I’m concerned.
by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Nov 5, 2008 3:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm concerned too
But I think the notes people are taking are the true Everest of the exercise. Not the belief that Theus, or the group on the court, can’t execute plays at some point.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 5, 2008 10:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Perfection
Great article! I think someone was inspired by Obama last night…. right?
by the3rdK-Mart on Nov 5, 2008 4:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
So what was the excuse before Obama?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 5, 2008 10:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My problem with the offense
is that we are talking about getting out and running and scoring and attacking; however, we are not an athletic team. Philly is an athletic team. Miami is an athletic team. You saw what happened when we tried to “get out and run” against those teams.
The pertinent question is: Who decided we are going to be a "running"squad?
Was that Reggie? If so, then he may pay for it with his job because we don’t have the players to make it work. That being said, if this was a mandate that came down the hill from Petrie or the Maloof’s, it is hard to blame poor Reggie (and I can see the Maloof’s brainstorming in Vegas in the offseason and deciding that they want their team to play a more “exciting” brand of basketball next year).
The problem with this idea is that Petrie seems to draft/prefer good shooting, highly skilled players. These players work well when in a structured, passing offense. These skills, however, don’t necessarily translate to defense, rebounding or a running offense, which all seem to require long, quick, athletic players.
Bottom line: we need to shelve the run and gun aspirations until we have the personnel needed to be successful.
by R-Man on Nov 5, 2008 5:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Its what Petrie wants I think
The Kings of old.
Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !
by lietothegirls on Nov 5, 2008 5:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not yet.
I watched many of our games last season but I haven’t been able to find any streaming videos online this year so I can’t really tell about Theus coaching so far.
However, by seeing our roster as it is now and judging its quality, these huge losses seem totally normal to me. The quality of our players is very close to the bottom of the NBA. Don’t get me wrong, but I really can’t find anyone with elite skills or at least superstar potential. (I haven’t watched Thompson yet).
All I’m saying is that we have many mediocre players, a couple of them with potential to have potential and an unproven leader. Blowout losses are a logical consequence to me, so I can’t blame Theus for that. I can blame Karl for having AI and Melo and have a team which sucks and I can blame Isiah or Nelson for other reasons, but not Theus.. yet.
by ZenBaller on Nov 5, 2008 5:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Philosophy comes from GM as much as the Coach
Think the Colangelos and their commitment to a certain type of player and the dividends that has had in Phoenix and Toronto. Of course that has been coupled with coaches who have a certain strategy to utilize those players.
Petrie needs to be more involved with overseeing and developing player development alongside and above the coach. If he wants the kings to play a certain way, with a certain strategy, he needs to make it clear to the coach, and if that coach cant do that, he needs to find one who can.
by Citadel 29 on Nov 5, 2008 6:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You guys think it's bad to be the Kings?
Try being the Clippers who have had more than 1 game on their home floor.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 5, 2008 10:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The Clippers are 0-3 on the home floor and 0-2 on the road
What’s their excuse?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 5, 2008 10:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Washington is also winless
We can all cry about the 0-4 start. But their are other teams with more difficult hurdles than the Kings. Sometimes it’s helpful to look around, for me anyway, and see what other teams are doing to help keep what the Kings are doing, and what perspective I get from it. Sometimes I think Kings fans focus too much on one area, and it skews their perspective.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 5, 2008 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to nominate Bobby Brown to the first guard off the bench status
I know Bobby is the tenured cat, but he’s finished. It’s time for BB to get his apprentice training.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 5, 2008 10:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Argh
I mean to post this (too quick on the trigger) too. Brown had 10 pts on 4 of 4 shooting and 2 of 2 line. He also had 5 dimes. What more can you ask from the guy? (Beno’s line was 2-9 floor, no free throws, 6 dimes, and 2 turnovers. (Brown also had 2 TO’s.) I mean, seriously, Bobby J wasn’t effective on the court either tonight. 1 O board and a dime. Bobby’s career should end quietly in the good night. a special place is in my heart for Bobby J, but tonight, it’s over for ya. And Sir" Don’t be Cruel" just sealed your coffin.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Nov 5, 2008 10:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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