Game 20: Jazz at Kings
by Tom Ziller on Dec 2, 2008 5:15 PM PST
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PrintUtah Jazz at Sacramento Kings, Dec 2, 2008 7:00 PM PST
Suddenly I stop
But I know it's too late
I'm lost in a forest
All alone
The girl was never there
It's always the same
I'm running towards nothing
again and again and again
- The Cure, A Forest
JAZZ, WHO ARE YOU?
The Jazz lack Carlos Boozer and Andrei Kirilenko, according to early reports. Utah has the 4th best offense in the league and the 15th ranked defense. The team plays super slow, so the people inside your TV never acknowledge that Utah, at its current state, has a great offense and a mediocre defense. Also, in the common mindset of the TV people, fouling a lot means you care about defense. But fouling a lot just means you foul a lot, and it's actually bad for your defense. Utah fouls a lot, and it's bad for its defense.
Deron Williams will bust your ass on the pick-and-roll all day and all night. Little-known fact: Mehmet Okur hates shooting, and became Turkey's greatest 7-foot jump shooter begrudgingly. He really wants to stand under the rim and dunk all day, like Dwight Howard or Jarron Collins. Paul Millsap is what they* call a load.
* They=Jerry Reynolds.
YOUR SACRAMENTO KINGS
John Salmons and Kevin Martin are game-time decisions. I don't think Martin will shoot us in the heart. He knows half of us only woke up today on the chance he'd play. (The other half loves tacos, and it is Taco Tuesday suckers!) Spencer Hawes will start at power forward alongside Brad Miller. Francisco Garcia is still alive.
BOLD WAGER
See the poll below. If a majority of StR voters guess incorrectly, Kenny Thomas gets nacho cheese all over the suit.
THE TIP
In a pinch, vodka makes for an excellent hand sanitizer.
THE REAL TIP
The game is set for 7PM PST. Let's go Kings.
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Hey!
No fair influencing the vote. I’m not sure which way to vote now.
What if K9 wears a nacho colored suit? Then what? Can you give him a lube job instead? Woof!
Yea I voted who I thought was incorrect just in the hopes of seeing K9 ruin the suit he bought with salary cap space
Napear: "Going in to the final timeout what did the coach tell you?"
Bibby: "I asked the coach if I should go and he said, I don't really know what he said."
No one
should have to give K9 a lube job. EVER.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
Wow The Cure
haven’t thought about them in a long time. Maybe The Smiths for the next game? Or New Order? Depeche Mode?
Go Kings!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Yes
will come in off the bench.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
Nice pass Spencer
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Stupid TO Beno
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Don't know how that wasn't a
foul on Brad. Wow.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
That's what I mean
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
Rebound please
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
That's 2 stupid TOs Beno
That’s your quota.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
GEE
I wonder how we’d ever do without Mikki’s fabulistic Defense
We'd be
less fabulistic, thats for sure
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
Martin Sighting
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Kevin for 3!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
foor must've
been on the line. Only gave him a 2.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
And Martin
taking the Mikki(aka the charge)!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
2 for 2
Welcome back Kevin. We missed you.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Sweet!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
Me too
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
BJax should get few minutes
until he starts shooting a little better than 14% from 3.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
8 TOs for the Jazz?
That’s huge.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
9 now.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
Keep em comin
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
No.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
Bad job finishing
out the quarter. Gave away most of the lead. But 24-20. I’ll take it.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
1st qtr in the book
Kinda ragged but entertaining
New Rule...
Mikki Moore doesn’t get to touch the ball unless he’s blocking a shot or rebounding… so basically, never
Actually, scratch that. He can pass the ball in after he takes a charge
www.mancancook.net
Mikki ain't no Bowen
Don’t know he’s being played like he’s the most outstanding specialist defender in the league. I don’t see him shutting down his opponents on a nightly basis.
JT gets
only 3 minutes? That’s fucked up.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
and Mikki does?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
11-0 Jazz run
down 5 now. ugh.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Ya and it started when lobster claws came back in
Super f**king defense, I tell you.
Fire Theus! Fire Theus! Fire Theus!
Who’s with me???? He puts the usual back in and the 4 point lead is a frickin 5 point deficit like 2 minutes into the second.
Hey JT goes to the Bench, Kings lose the lead
THEUS, MOORE AND BRAD ON THE FLOOR AT THE SAME TIME DOES NOT MAKE SENSE
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
WHAT IS REGGIE DOING? 3 minutes for thompson. Mike is getting schooled. WHY DOES HE LOVE PLAYING MOOR?E?!?!
How the hell is a rookie like JT supposed to improve...
when he’s being kept on the bench like this. This would be quality minutes for him.
Ugh.
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
BJax keeps launching these shots...
that he keeps missing.
What a horrible lineup
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
good to see he old Cisco emerging
We REALLY missed his energy
Please..
No more BJax and Moore
Please Theus?
JT and Brown..please.
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
These shooting percentages are not good
Kings: .382 FG, .143 3pt, .417 FT
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Is it me or does Cisco always get wacked in the face at least once in a game
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
18 TOs
for the Jazz. that’s a terrible game for them.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
its even worse
because we can’t capitalize
by VenomySnicket on Dec 2, 2008 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
It should be
but our average isn’t much below that. 16.1
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
No
per game.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
Hit that Kevin
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
What an ugly game for both teams
Martin is still rusty and the Jazz are turning it over like crazy.
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
Jazz TO's
keeping the Kings in the game. Jazz shooting 50, Kings 38. Jazz 87% from the line, Kings 50%. With the TO difference the Kings have the same amount of made baskets and freethrows.
Seriously, this song sucks
Why must they always play it ><
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
GIVE ME A HELL GIVE ME A YEAAAHHHH
Fantastic lyrics those.
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
It serves its purpose
It’s really not that bad considering its a sports vignette song. its loud and fast and kind of fun. its no Creed or anything, but it’s not horrible
www.mancancook.net
this highlight reel made me happy
We have some good young players. Now if they could only see the floor.
Not if they keep turning it over like this
2 already in the 3rd.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
Grant's racist
Don’t ya know Beagle?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I'm not rising to the bait
Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !
by lietothegirls on Dec 2, 2008 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
And an ugly game gets uglier
3 turnovers on the first four possessions out of the half for both teams.
Spencer showing
the passing skills. One to Beno, one to Cisco. I like it.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Spencer and Cisco
Have the same kind of chemistry that Brad and Kevin have. I noticed this last year.
Spencer
with the spin and jam. OMG!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
That sucked
nice effort Brad, but a time out might have been a better choice.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
He's got the putback & the energy!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cisco baby!!!!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Beno with 11 from treeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Ivory Towers
Running a beautiful offense out there
No
But we understand. Just don’t tell us, and we won’t ask you Jedi.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
And all comparisons
to Brad Miller regarding athletic ability should forever be put to rest.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
Am I correct to assume that Salmons is out tonight?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Thank You
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Yes.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
Thank You
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Maybe Reggie has wised up
Snicker Snicker.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
omg JT AND Spencer at the same time!
:D
for 3 minutes at least ><
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
Spencer leading the break
behind the back pass. Showtime!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
If you don't like Spencer Hawes
You don’t like goofy tall white republicans! (Exactly Grant!)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Great play Spencer
now sit on the bench!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Doesn't want us to
miss Salmons too much.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
Bobby...
seriously dude? There’s 3 guys on you, just throw it away and one of your teammates is bound to get it
www.mancancook.net
Reggie Theus
Where coaching a team with momentum, and killing it, happens.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Like looking like a chick right?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Hmmmmm
Not convinced.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
62-54 Kangz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I could've gone with a Reggie's in hot water pun
But thought it was a bit of a stretch
au contra ire
Excellent D
Mikki! :[
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
A reach in foul on Mikki Moore!!!!!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
My dream?
Someone pass the ball to JT one time.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Whoops
Sorry, JT, you didn’t block that shot. Back to the bench for you.
Why Reggie, why?
We have a perfectly capable 3 man front court rotation. Why does Mikki need to play at all?
www.mancancook.net
And the foul before Thompson's move to the basket
Never heard that about Spidehead Moore.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
And that is the 22nd turnover.......
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
That is tied for the highest total for the season for the Jazz
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
23
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
You Derron to
make Jazz puns?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
Me too
Mostly cuz it’s true.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Mikki...
when you’re teammate is trying to get by you to stay on his man… move the fuck out the way
www.mancancook.net
Martin fouled
And he’ll get to the line again. (How many times did you hear that when he was out?)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Nearly had a heart attack
I thought Bobby Brown was K9 for a second
That's just wrong
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Stop it!
(Are you boring national media? No! Then stop it!)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Memo Okur is fouled by Mikki Moore
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Bury em!
Ronnie Price blocked by Jason Thompson to end the qtr! But a foul is called. Ugh.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I agree the Kings got lucky there
Got lucky Martin is going to the line.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
He didn't
get him with the body. Maybe he caught his arm, but I don’t think so.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
It wasn't a foul
It was a bad call. Not to say shit happens doesn’t happen though.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
What he said
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Shutup
It’s a bad call get over it!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
At least he did something right
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Sweet!
Kevin going to the line!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
And yet
The Kings get a free throw
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
No
it was the right call.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
make up play.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
I hate + / - stat's
Particularly used this way. (Doesn’t say Mikki Moore deserve to play much anymore on this team.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Kmart now 3 of 10 from the floor
But he changes the game for the Kings with his presence. Where have we heard that before?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Like the 10 FT attempts
more please.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
Yet somehow
Monta Ellis is so much better isn’t he?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Here's a 3 yes. Bobby Brown!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Garcia fouled....he'll get to the line....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Nice to see some semblence of balance too
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Price to Almond...and it counts
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Mikki out before JT
yay!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
But he takes charges
Don’t forget that part.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
If he had played 48 mins he would have
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
LOL No Doubt
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
What an idea
Playing Brad Miller with JT!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Kyle Korver from three
74-71 Jazz now.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
bobbyJ did that
Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !
by lietothegirls on Dec 2, 2008 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
You just aren't ever happy are you? :P
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I hate Raley's Bel Air commercials
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
So is Kevin getting no rest
or will he not finish the game?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Stop it! (Yall are misusing this stat)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Deron Williams -15
Ronnie Price +19.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
Jazz turn it over again......
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Martin from treeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
(Off Beno penetration.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Martin
back to back 3s!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Martin from treeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
And 20 pts overall at this point
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
on 13 shots
welcome back, Speed
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
Brad taking it strong
draws the foul.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Miller with the throw
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Sit BJax
please.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Spence!
Put it in the book and send him to the line!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Spencer and 1`
(And Reggie. Please put Cisco in now. Thanks in advance Pretty Boy!)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Resting his eyes
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
How is that off Miller?
his hand was pushing the ball down towards the ground but it went away from him
www.mancancook.net
Sure there is
He’s a veteran.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
and that is why
i wouldn’t be totally pissed if theus got fired.
I wouldn’t be HAPPY, but at least in theory, we’d see less Moore and Jackson.
5 fouls on Beno
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
14 pts 5 dimes 5 boards 3 stl's for Shawes tonight
Hmmmm, maybe this starting thing has merit eh?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Douby?
Cisco must be hurt.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
or Theus has officially lost his mind
smell the ashes
by iamstern'skippah! on Dec 2, 2008 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
I think
They’re trying to limit Cisco’s mins right now. Only play him a certain amount. I had a feeling it was something like that.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Difference
between 31 and 35 is not that great.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
Sweet pass Spencer to
Brad.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
seriously,we need to trade miller. as long as miller will be there, either JT or hawes won’t develop. It’s obvious Hawes is the real deal
yeah, Miller's been awful
Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !
by lietothegirls on Dec 2, 2008 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
This is not going to be popular
But I’m thrilled with Reggie putting in Douby here. Good way for Douby to succeed.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Rather see Douby
than Jackson at this point.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
Yup
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
.....and that is why Douby will be out of the league next year.
When you’re 6’3" on a good day, and don’t have the handles to play PG or the stroke to play SG, then you’re probably better off playing in Turkey.
Almond no Douby the board
And douby is fouled and he’ll get to the lline with a min 45 left…..
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
And Douby seems ready I might add
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Hit 'em Q
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
And he gives the Evil Cowtown the lead!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I love Mikki
when he’s on the bench.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
My lord
Deron Williams is a bigger version of John Stockton.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Beno all the way!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Beno all the way!!!!!!!!11
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
He got hurt in the last game
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
Air ball Douby
crap.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Oui airball by Quincy
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
30 seconds left
down 3.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
I agree with Gratn
That was a dumb timing for a timeout. Either call it on the baseline, or run a quick 2 for 1.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Not many people
can guard Williams though.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 9:25 PM PST up reply actions
Is anybody even guarding Williams?
Nobdy helping out, that for sure
Kind of hard to guard him too
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
but you're still glad Douby's in but hate Miller?
Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !
by lietothegirls on Dec 2, 2008 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
Wut?
I didn’t say any terrible about Brad. I’m not yay or nay on Quincy. I just think people are a bit rough on him. He didn’t lose this game for the Kings.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
We'll get another
chance to see Theus draw up a play
AK47, SN13, B52, and K9. One guns, Another runs, He fits, while it licks.
Hit that Brad
WTF
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Beno you IDIOT!
Martin was WIDE open and he didn’t give the ball until it was too late
that was an open 3
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
Game Over
Memo will make 1, and the Kings will lose again. Ugh.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Spacing was AWFUL on that play
What the Hell was Brad doing in the paint when Kevin drove?
Offensive rebound
nice
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
I'm seriously doubting
Theus’ decision to put Q Douby in the last couple minutes of a very close game when he hadn’t played at all before that. Especially when Garcia had been playing with some great energy and good D.
If Theus really made the decision to put in Douby (who has already failed in at least 2 critical late game situations, and hadn’t been in all game) instead of ‘Cisco, and ’Cisco isn’t hurt, Theus needs to be fired.
He did much better than Bjax did
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
seriously?
Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !
by lietothegirls on Dec 2, 2008 9:30 PM PST up reply actions
For awhile he did
Except for that airball 3 what did Bjax do better than Douby did?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
At least Douby could keep Korver from hitting shots
Look people. I’m not saying Douby was swell. I’m saying he was better than Bjax tonight, which isn’t honestly saying much at this point.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
4 missed open 3s for BJax
He was much better at missing 3s than Douby.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
he hit the rim on 3 of them
Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !
by lietothegirls on Dec 2, 2008 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
So.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
am i the only one..
who wishes cisco was in instead of douby =(
honestly, this is why the kings just need to get a high lottery pick. look at the jazz..they played a terrible game but they have an elite player in williams who took it over in the end. you can’t find that kind of elite talent in the middle of the draft
Agreed
but when had Deron proven himself to be an ‘elite’ talent? Hasn’t happened, yet…
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Dec 2, 2008 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
Deron Williams
One of only three point guards to score 1,500 points and have 800 assists in a season while shooting 50%. The other two: Magic and Sacramento’s mayor. Not bad company.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Dec 3, 2008 4:56 AM PST up reply actions
I call that elite
KJ in his prime was better than most PG’s in a lot of ways.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
At least it wasn't
a blow out. Fun game. Am very glad Kevin is back. Hope Garcia isn’t hurt.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
I don't think he's hurt
I think there was a preset plan to only play Cisco a certain amount of mins.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
If that's the case
then Reggie seriously fucked up by not planning a way to have him available to close out the game.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
No good way to do that scenario
You guys are just pissed off the Kings lost. I don’t blame you, but not rushing players back from injuries like the one Cisco had does make sense with a long term view. Right now, though, it’s hard to have that view.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
It's rare
But I completely disagree. It’s not like ‘Cisco burned himself (or his allowable minutes) earlier in the fourth. He HAD to be in the game during crunch time. I hope that he didn’t re-aggravate his injury, but that is the only allowable excuse for him not being in for the last few minutes
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Dec 2, 2008 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
Can't say I agree
I don’t really think it’s a big deal myself, but what the hey. To each they own on this one.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
if that's true
100% coaching fail. They should have made him available for a possible critical late game situation, especially with Salmons out.
That I disagree with
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I don’t think you’re getting what I’m saying. If there really was a mandate to only play cisco however many mins he played, he should have taken some more mins off in the middle of the game, so he’d be available to close it out.
Yes I do understand that
I disagree with you. (I think that’s exactly the wrong way to do that. If there is a wrong way to limit a guy whose gonna get 30-35 mins a night anyway.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
why?
he’d still be playing the same total amount of minutes, and we wouldn’t have to see Douby in crunch time.
That way you can't say Reggie tried to win a game with an injured player
When teams win fans are happy. When they lose they’re unreasonable.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I disagree
I would be much happier now if cisco had been in at the end, even if the end result was the same.
In my opinion, it’s much better to say that one of your key players tried to tough it out in the clutch, even if they failed, than having to put in a cold player off the end of your bench who’s failed repeatedly in late game situations because you didn’t manage minutes properly.
Well we can agree to disagree
Regardless of the fact I know I’m right.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Being a martyr tends to make things such as that true
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
One of those nights, huh?
Lookin’ for trouble. You won’t get it (or much) from me
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Dec 2, 2008 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
It's. One. Game.
Let’s not risk a player’s health on one game that likely doesn’t mean much anyway
au contra ire
Bingo
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I don't know?
Kevin played more minutes than Cisco. Doesn’t make much sense.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
Different injury
You get an ankle warmed up, it’s much different. Plus there are 2 days off in between games alone. It’s a totally different story.
I just think people are pissed right now cuz of the 7 losses in a row. I realize I"m indifferent, but this shit happens with mediocre teams going through a tough stretch and injuries. It’s a recipe for disaster. That’s what’s going on with this club.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I'm not worried
about the losses. I’m glad it was a close game. What I don’t like is big minutes for Moore and Jackson.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
I agree with you Kfan
You know my feelings on Moore & Bjax. I’m just saying, that it makes sense that Cisco wouldn’t be on the floor late, especially since the KIngs are trying to get him in a flow before he takes the floor for all the necessary mins. Integrating a player into your flow is not always as simple, as simply playing him. It’s a bit more complicated than that. No matter how many jokes we make about staying at the Holiday Inn Express.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
The thing about that is, there’s no way in hell you’ll ever get me to believe that Douby is more “in the flow” with this offense than Cisco is.
To be clear
I’d much rather cisco risk missing those shots late because he’s not “in the flow” than Douby even have the opportunity to take them.
Who said I'm trying to make you buy that argument
I don’t believe it. I just want Cisco healthy for the long run, and playing him at the end of games is not necessarily an intelligent way to go about doing that.
I really hope, as Kfan said, that Cisco didn’t hurt his calf again. Although I doubt that was the case. I really liked that Cisco got on the court tonight again. Overall, I think it woudl have been great if he could have come off the bench, but whatever. (I also think Bjax would never have sniffed court time had Salmons not been out of the game.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Are injuries really more likely to occur at the end of games though? I’m not necessarily saying that he should have played more minutes than he did, and I wouldn’t be upset to learn they had a hard limit on his minutes. I just don’t agree with distributing them that way.
No I'm not saying that at all
I’m saying that trying to get Cisco back into the flow at the end of the game is far more difficult than at earlier stages. I agree with what Reggie did.
I also think the players lost it by not taking advantage of an Utah team that turned the ball over 18, read that again, 18, times in the 1st half.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
well that
we definitely agree on.
Can you agree though that even if you’re 100% right about cisco and his minutes, there were better options than Quincy freaking Douby?
If he's healthy & on the floor
What’s the point of arguing it? He isn’t fully 100% back yet. That’s my point. End of story.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
And he played 31 mins
I think that’s too much at this point.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I think, though,
that it would have been easier to get Garcia in the flow than Douby, who had been sitting on the bench for the last few hours.
The thing is,
with the pressure Theus seems to be getting from the Maloof’s, I would assume he was coaching to win this game. Every loss adds to the chances of him getting canned. So, unless Garcia aggravated his injury, having him in there during the final minutes would have given the team the best chance to win. As much as I root for Douby to play well, he doesn’t seem to perform well under pressure. Add to that the fact that he hadn’t played at all earlier in the game and putting him in at that point in the game wasn’t a good decision. I would even say it wasn’t fair to Douby because that is a very difficult situation for him to succeed in.
Against Medical advise?
IF Theus played Cisco or Martin past the time set by the medical staff and one of them reinjured themself or had a more serious injury, then Theus is fired the next morning. Plus there’s a chance that he never gets a head coaching job again.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
Turns out that's exaclty what happened
While Martin’s minutes were supposed to be capped at 25, he played 32
and
He couldn’t call on his most clutch player in Francisco García, the swingman who had ice wrapped around his recovering right calf and whose night ended with a decision from the player and the medical team that 31 minutes in his third game back from injury would be enough.
from the Bee game recap.
So it wasn’t Theus who kept Cisco out, it was Cisco and the medical staff, and time mismanagement by Theus, and Theus overplayed Martin. Luckily it doesn’t look like there was a reinjury.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 3, 2008 4:21 AM PST up reply actions
This isn't NBA 2K9
Just because they’re both cleared to play doesn’t mean that they’re both slotted for the same amount of minutes
au contra ire
My point was
that limiting Cisco’s minutes and not limiting Kevin’s didn’t make sense to me. Especially since it’s Kevin’s 1st game back. I think Cisco reinjured the calf.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2008 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
That's always possible
But a calf injury is different than an ankle injury. Limiting Cisco’s mins makes more sense than limiting Kevin’s if Kevin feels okay. Plus playing through is what Kevin needed.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Another disappointing finish by the Kings
Is all that needs to be said.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Why not Bbrown if Cisco is hurt? He’s way better than Douby.
smell the ashes
by iamstern'skippah! on Dec 2, 2008 9:33 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I agree
But I’ve been saying that for a month & a half.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Agreed!
Anyone that has watched the Kings this year would have a REAL hard time arguing with that
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Dec 2, 2008 11:05 PM PST up reply actions
Reggie Theus with the Mike Dunleavy special
Bring in an ice cold player from the end of your bench in a critical late game situation.
Yeah
I just can’t back that no matter the circumstances. I would have preferred to see Brown; I am a Douby doubter I guess.
Haha
I wonder if Bill Simmons is watching this shit right now. He probably falled out of his chair laughing.
smell the ashes
by iamstern'skippah! on Dec 2, 2008 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
The Sports Guy jumped the shark like two Patriot superbowls ago...
that guy is sucks now!
I love your name
Even though you’re probably a Tapatío, it looks like the study of Jelly or something
au contra ire
WHAAAAA?
Really? Simmons has made a career writing about how sports impacts his life. He is not a “sports” writer, but a “sports lifestyle” writer. Since his team(s) have been winning, you expect his writing style and temperament to stay the same? He would be a fraud if it did.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Dec 2, 2008 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
stop swinging from Simmons balls
he will need them later…trust me.
Lets play the Lottery!
YOU GOTTA BE IN IT TO WIN IT!
I'm starting a "Fire Reggie" bandwagon
Quincy in crunch time? Hasn’t Reggie learned that that’s not a good idea?
www.mancancook.net
1 more for the Rubio lottery
…and one more reason to fire Theus.
no one on this team wants the ball in the end
Thats a player issue
Cisco? Cisco? CISCO!!!! #*$!%! !
by lietothegirls on Dec 2, 2008 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
It's not really the end of the game
It’s more like how the game’s been executed. Poor, poor substitutions at critical times.
dude...Carmichael Dave
has a face for radio
by Jalisciense on Dec 2, 2008 9:37 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I feel like stepping on flowers and kicking puppies
I’m angry
I jest, don’t call PETA on me.
Or else.
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
Anybody else disappointed
With the execution of that last play out of the time out? Kevin would have had a wide open lane to the basket if Brad was more than freaking four feet away. Awful spacing.
Reggie has no idea what he’s doing
This isn't a Hang Time episode
Putting in Douby during crunch time isn’t going to end in a group hug..
Why Quincy Douby?
I don’t get Quincy Douby substitution but the Jazz deserved that one because Deron Williams showed why he’s a superstar in the league especially in the clutch.
This was probably the easiest game on the homestand, imo. An undermanned Jazz team without Boozer or Kirilenko. But the Jazz reserves played well.
Should the Kings sign Paul Millsap? He’s a nice young man big man to flank around Jason and Spencer.
BOOK IT!
Millsap isn't worth it.
Id rather develop Greene and than let him rot on the bench, remember what happened to Hedo.. the guy left the team then developed into better player
i followed the game on nba.com
(1) what’s up with JT’s zero points?
(2) is Douby in at the end ’cuz GP is a nice guy and wants to give him a chance to hit a game-winner to get some interest around the league for his next destination?
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
Reggie wants Douby to hit one of those
to boost his confidence. if Douby hits a game winner he might start making more shots in general. keep in mind, he was a sharpshooter in college, and I think Reggie just wants to give him a reminder
www.mancancook.net
and that's coaching fail.
That’d be like putting a middle reliever who’s been getting knocked around in as your closer just to boost his confidence. Stupid stupid stupid.
(1) what’s up with JT’s zero points?
He only played three minutes in the first half and was essentially invisible in his second half stint.
(2) is Douby in at the end ’cuz GP is a nice guy and wants to give him a chance to hit a game-winner to get some interest around the league for his next destination?
Garcia either re-injured his calf or is having his minutes limited. It was a horrifically bad substitution, as has been documented above.
Shut up and Coach
Better than having Bjax on the floor (Douby on the floor at the end)
Question is why wasn’t Bobby Brown?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Or Donté?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 3, 2008 4:23 AM PST up reply actions
Douby in for BJax
Jackson had just been burnt by Kover for two 3’s, one where jackson left him so far open Kover could have bonced the ball 3 times and Jackson still couldn’t have recovered. And, the 2nd time, Kover just shot over Jackson from the top of the key. Reggie needed someone to defend Kover, so Donte wouldn’t be a first option. That only left Douby. Cisco would have been the 1st option, but the coaching staff did a piss poor job managing his time.
As for pookey comment about bring in Brown, that would have worked offensively but isn’t Brown to small to cover Kover.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
Martin
was playing the 3 with Beno and BJax in the lineup, so putting in Donté would have allowed Martin to move back to the 2 and cover Korver.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 3, 2008 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
Martin may have been playing the 3
but, BJax was on Kover who was playing the 3.
Williams & Almond at guard
Korver and Milsap at forward
Okur at center.
Korver is 6’ 7" & Almond is 6’ 5" So BJax had no business defending either. Greene was tall enough with inferior D. Douby has better D but is 6’ 3". Neither is a good choice in my opinion. But have it your way Martin can cover Korver and Greene can cover Almond.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
Is the Kings main weakness..
the coach? I’m starting to think so.
smell the ashes
by iamstern'skippah! on Dec 2, 2008 9:40 PM PST reply actions
I think it is
Proof of this is the play down the stretch in all the close games they’ve had.
"It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face."
Exactly
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that they can compete at times, then suddenly blow the game. It’s been happening all last year. What I’ve observed is that Reggie often makes stupid substitutions to kill the flow of the game, at the worst times. If it isn’t broken, don’t fix it.
It’s a sign that Reggie is a poor leader, as well. He wants to keep changing things around, rather than having a consistent plan.
could we read into this?
i find it a little weird…..that there has obviously been some sort of message from the front office to start spencer and possibly begin this so called youth movement.
so looking at the box score, i see that the younger guys played probably the least number of minutes of the season (thats a guess). could this have been reggie deciding to go all out with the older squad for one last roll of the dice??
i’m just confused that’s all!
Thompson & Moore played similar mins
(Moore almost 13 JT almost 12.) I don’t think Reggie didn’t do anything that wasn’t expected of him. Playing Spencer more mins was what I think Geoff wanted in particular.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
There was no excuse for this one
Bobby missed way too many shots
Mikki did nothing
Missed a ton of easy shots and layups
Didn’t capitalize on a ton of turnovers
Douby in the clutch
Where was JT?
Why not try Greene and Brown over Douby and Jackson?
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Because throwing in the towel on veterans is not always a good move long term
I’m not saying Reggie’s right, but I can’t imagine there is any other reasoning past that.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
That depends entirely on the veterans. I’m not happy with the amount of minutes Moore got, but I am unhappy with what he did with them. However, Douby shouldn’t have any sort of trusted veteran status, and Jackson’s been showing that he’s over the hill all season. There is no way that Greene and Brown would have been worse options.
Look if you had better veterans
You’d be winning a lot more games. This is becoming a circle jerk round about argument. The only thing this team isn’t doing is winning a lot of games. A lot of other good stuff is happening with this team. I’m not saying this team is brilliant, or that Moore needs mins, or even Bjax (actually I’ve said that all along he was finished), and among other things, starting Shawes with Miller was a mistake (still feel justified saying that), along with the idea that this team’s injuries are costing it perimeter defense, along with helping inside to compensate for guys like Miller or Shawes. So at some point, for a mediocre team, making so many decisions will cost you. And it has.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Again
respectfully disagree. Brown and Greene would have been better options than BJax and Douby. Why weren’t they in? Brown and Greene may be unknown quantities. They may be as bad, but there’s no way they could be worse. The possibility of suck is always better than known quantities of suck.
I have no qualms with how the minutes were handed out in the first ~40 mins of the game, but leaving Jackson in there that long, and then putting Douby in to end it, well, there better have been a better reason than “getting his confidence back” or “playing the veterans”
Why are we arguing this?
I’ve already said that! LOL (I’m just trying to point out that there is not necessarily one consideration here.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Who cares if we keep losing!!!!!!
I wanna play the Lottery!
You gotta be in it to win it!
BRING BACK MUSSELMAN!!!!
Ok, not really, but now that i have your attention, let me go through the number of coaching mistakes in this game.
1. The Douby decision. Put in Bobby Brown. Put in Garcia. Put in BJax. Put in somebody who freaking played in the game
2. Garcia doesn’t see the ENTIRE fourth quarter?
3. Mikki Moore/Jason Thompson frontcourt is awfully mismatched. Mikki really needs to be sent to the end of the bench, next to Shelden and K9
4. Speaking of JT, WTF was up with that 3 minute stint in the early second? Only 11 total minutes? One total FGA? BOOOO!
5. Play calls out of timeouts, spacing was STILL awful.
I am really losing confidence in Theus. Just the most bizarrely coached Kings game I’ve ever seen.
Theus needs to be fired
the team hasn’t quit on him, but his decisions are simply idiotic and are costing the team wins.
smell the ashes
by iamstern'skippah! on Dec 2, 2008 10:07 PM PST reply actions
Good grief Charlie Brown
No Boozer, no Kirilenko…playing on the road and turning the ball over about a bajillion times…and the Jazz still win?
And oh lookie, now we get a home and home with arguably the best team in the NBA.
Ok, I get that this isn’t all Reggie’s fault – but this is getting ridiculous. There are legitimate concerns with Reggie’s player rotations and substitution decisions (including Doubying us AGAIN) as well as his playcalls out of timeouts.
At some point, you can only make so many excuses. This was a game the Kings would have lost by 25 if the Jazz were healthy and had valued the ball the way they normally do. There is still no coherent offensive or defensive philosophy that I can see, and Mikki Moore is still appearing on my television screen from time to time.
Most of the Theus apologists say “well he’s only had 20 games”. Uh, no…he’s had 102 games by my somewhat wine-induced count. There should be some tangible system in place at this point. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK???
Coach Theus, the clock is ticking.
"Don't sweat the petty stuff and don't pet the sweaty stuff." - My Dad, confusing me at a very young age.
QUINCY. DOUBY. IS. DONE.
I like the guy’s personality, and you can’t keep yourself from rooting for him. But, he’s proven himself to be quasi-clutch. I fear he is destined for a piece of pine just up-bench from K9(woof!). Hopefully we can include him in a trade that will bring him a fresh scene and possibly a new chance at some confidence.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
7 straight losses with no easy win in sight
Your owners criticizing you in the media. Terrible execution down the stretch of close games. The worst defense in the league. I think Reggie Theus’s days may be numbered.
...
Flip Saunders
Avery Johnson
Jeff Van Gundy
Doug Collins
Mike Fratello
…get your cane, Hubie Brown.
some of these names are starting to sound pretty good.
But honestly, I doubt this Kings team would be drastically improved no matter who the coach is. Beyond this season, though, it would be nice to get someone with some credentials.
I would take AVERY...
in a heartbeat. He’d pull Beno aside and yell at him until he stops making horrible passes.
However, I’d like to give Theus at least 20 more games with a full squad before canning him. I don’t think it’s his fault that Beno makes poor decisions, Brad can’t execute or that B-Jax is 2 steps slower. I’d rather lose with Douby than another turnover by Beno or another brick by Brad.
- Hawes should have finished out the 3rd, fancy pass or not.
- J.T. should have been given some of the minutes that Brad used to disappear or complain.
- Donte should have been given some of the minutes that B-Jax used to throw up bricks.
- It’s always good to see K-Quick back.
Let’s hope ’Cisco is okay. Win or Lose – GO KINGS!
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Time to limit the rotation
Too many players. Too many lineups to develop any consistency.
Let’s separate the group into who’s part of the future, who maybe is and who definitely isn’t:
FUTURE
Hawes
JT
Greene
Martin
Garcia
MAYBE
Salmons
Beno
Brown
Shelden
NOT
Miller
Moore
BJax
Douby
K9
These top nine guys should get the bulk of the playing time. The top five should start or play starter minutes, and the bottom four should be traded or ride a lot of pine.
It’s pretty obvious looking at that list that the Kings are going to need to find an elite point guard in the draft to go anywhere in the future, and that player is not currently on the team.
The way Miller lost the ball on that last sequence last night is typical of his weakness. He’s been just awful this year for the most part. Deal him already.
Shelden Williams probably doesn’t warrant that “maybe” status, but at least he is a big body that isn’t afraid to bang a little. I am so sick and tired of seeing soft bigs that I’d rather Shelden get the backup big man minutes than Miller and Moore.
Frankly, I don’t care who plays, but Jesus, Reggie, find a rotation and go with it so players can grow into their roles. You are starting to coach like Musselman.
It’s ironic that we are rating Beno ahead of Duhon before the resigning, and suddenly that looks like a mistake.
I don’t know if there was ever a window where we could have canned Theus and brought in D’Antoni to coach, but if there was, we missed out. I think even Douby would have thrived in that scenario.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Dec 3, 2008 5:26 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Pretty much
agree with everything there.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 3, 2008 6:00 AM PST up reply actions
Brad's played somewhat poorly by his standards this year
And the retaliation fouls and technicals are getting pretty cliche…you can pretty much call it before it happens anymore.
But the guy is still an effective player, and I don’t get why he is everyone’s whipping boy. You read the game thread and you’d think he laid an egg last night.
18 points, 8 rebounds, 1 assist (admittedly low for his standards), 1 turnover (admittedly low as well), 4 blocks.
His defense stinks, but if you are going to talk about defense on this squad…who’s doesn’t? Maybe Salmons gets a pass, but there ain’t a bunch of Sidney Moncriefs running around out there.
As an aside, has anyone checked the Roland Ratings for the current season? Everyone’s other favorite whipping boy, Beno Udrih, currently has the highest number on the squad…of course, you have to go way down the list just to find any Sacramento King, which tells you just how bad they have been.
Damn, I miss that feeling after the road win in New Orleans. What happened to that team?
"Don't sweat the petty stuff and don't pet the sweaty stuff." - My Dad, confusing me at a very young age.
by otis29 on Dec 3, 2008 6:12 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The veterans started playing again
As I’ve said Reggie is doing himself no favors.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I think we've seen pretty definitively that letting Cisco run the point full-time
has worked out terribly.
I think you missed the "point"
No pun intended. I just think Cisco should be among the five players who log the most minutes, even if that is coming off the bench. Beno and Brown should still split the PG minutes, but this is an area that is crying for an upgrade.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Dec 5, 2008 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
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