Glimmer Of Hope: 2009 NBA draft and our future PG
Well its hard being a Sacramento Kings fan these days. With all the mounting losses and staggering injuries, it's tough to compete in this league. However, there is hope in the form of the 2009 NBA draft. Kings are currently in position to recieve teh fourth pick and they have an 11.9% chance of getting the first overall pick. This is one of the highest pick they'll ever get and tell you the truth I want the Kings to keep losing so they can keep their pick postion. Here why:
The goal of every NBA team is to win a championship. Currently the Kings future starting lineup looks kind of like this: Udrih, Martin, Garcia, Thompson, and Hawes with a bench including Donte Greene and Bobby Brown. You look at that lineup and even if you factor in some improvement and good coaching, that team is absolutely nothing against some of the other elite teams in the NBA who are looking to win the championship this year. Obviously we need to pair Kevin Martin with another star to get this team into serious contention. Some of you point to the 2010 free agent pool. However do you really thing one of the major stars: Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Stoudemire, Joe Johnson, etc. is going to sign with us. I mean come on. You guys are putting way to much hope on that draft class. With around 15 teams that are going to have good cap space, how is Sacramento going to compete. The only way we have been successful here in the Petrie Era is by making shrewd trades (Webber and Bibby) and good drafts not free agency. So I want to bring all of our attention to the 2009 NBA Draft. Okay now lets get to the good stuff:
Alright from the first look at the pool of draftees I see the answer to many of our problems : point guards. Unless we get the first overall pick (10%) in which case we pick Blake Griffin, I think we would be best off getting a point. Here's the main list: Ricky Rubio, Stephen Curry, Jrue Holliday, and Brandon Jennings. I will go into some depth about each player and offer our team outlook.
Ricky Rubio: A very young player, 18, who has some truly special point guard skills. He lacks good athleticism or elite quickness, but he has a special feel for the game and really knows how to command and set up his teammates and make them better. He can drive well and is a pain in the ass on the defensive end with his activity level and good hands. He has excellent vision, good body control, can get to the FT line, and always gives his best. A truly special point guard in the mold of Steve Nash.
Stephen Curry: An amazing shooter who shoots almost 60% of his shots from three point range. He can get his shot off anywhere and can consistently drill despite huge pressure. He has good vision and can make the good pass to get his teammate a good look. With other teams purely focusing on him, he has played the point well this season averaging almost 7 assists a game. However, Curry doesn't possess the athleticism or quickness of good point guard and really will struggle to lead an NBA team at the point position and really doesn't have the size to play the 2 position. His lack of explosiveness or athleticism makes him a subpar finisher. Comparison: Mike Bibby.
Jrue Holliday: This guy can do a little bit of everything: he can score, pass, and rebound. He plays good defense. He's quick, athletic, and explosive which allows him to get to the basket at will and knows how to finish well because of elite body control. Can pull up well off the dribble. Has an overall smooth game and is a good decision maker. Plays under control and with good effort. Needs to improve his point guard skills, but has the potential to become a good floor general. Has the mold of a Randy Foye/Westbrook/ Stuckey*.
Brandon Jennings: "Tremendous lefty point guard with a scary package of speed, athleticism, point guard skills and tenacity". That basically sums up this guy. So far he has struggled in Europe as his shot just hasn't fallen and his decision making has been pretty awful, turnover and bad shots. Defensively he is weak and doesn't do a great job defending. He is a natural point guard and can penetrate and set up his teammates with his good vision. He has a solid jumpshot, but has struggled in Europe with it. He has an explosive first step, has elite quickness and is very athletic, but he is also weak and struggles in the aggressive play of Europe. He can't absorb contact well. However, there have been flashes of brilliance in Europe and overall he has a very high upside. Comparison: Kenny Anderson
Team Outlook
Well I think we have a star in Martin already. We have two big men: Hawes and Thompson who I think will end up making a very good big man pairing that is of championship caliber (cross your fingers and knock on wood). I think with the right point guard our of this group we could dominate. I think we need a pure point guard who can lead this team and make everyone better. My preference in order is: Rubio, Jennings, Holliday, and Curry. What do you guys think? Which guard would you chose? Do you think getting one of these guards would make us a championship caliber team in a few years? Would you select anyone else in this draft? Please do share.
*A note on Stuckey: would you have chosen him instead of Hawes the 2007 draft? Is he better than hawes especially after his 40 point outburst? Why did he fall so low?
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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Hmm interesting stuff
You are saying a lot of stuff I’ve been saying for some time myself. I agree that the Kings shouldn’t bother with the 2010 FA class; it’s a waste of time for a ton of reasons. Mainly, because too many other teams will have the space to be players, and acquiring a guy through Free Agency is much more difficult. It’s more of a finishing touch than a beginning one, and other than Vlade Divac, I can’t think of a 5 star FA signing in the Kings history. (I don’t rate Bobby Jackson as a 5 star signing. Especially when he was hurt for the last half of that contract. But, at the time, he exceeded expectations, and he was a great bench player for 2 years. So that’s worth at least 4 stars. But 5? Nope, sorry.)
One question: Did you write the stuff in blockquotes? Or did you get that from somewhere else? Cuz if you got it from somewhere else, you should link that stuff. It’s called copyright infringement if you don’t.
I’m not sure what my preference is if you talk about Curry, Jennings, Rubio or Holiday. I think of the 4, Holiday probably has more appeal, but if Jennings plays well in the 2nd half of the year, perhaps he has the edge. Who knows abotu Rubio anyway? He’s reportedly taken himself out of the 2009 draft, and is going to wait for 2010. Who knows though.
Even though I like Rodney Stuckey, and was not the only one high on him around here, I do think the Kings made the right decision in selecting a big in Shawes, even if Spencer wasn’t the guy I was stumping for (Jason Smith was my guy). So, yeah, I agree with that decision. Stuckey can play, but he also plays for a team with better talent which obscures many of his weakness’ as a young player. The Kings don’t have the type of talent to overcome the type of young player mistakes that young players consistently make.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Dec 24, 2008 3:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nah I just blocked them to make it look cool
I actually have watched all of these players quite a bit with the exception of Rubio and Jennings. I got their information from Draft Express and a couple other sites.
by HarbirD on Dec 24, 2008 5:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My point was
If you’re getting information from other sites, please start attributing it to them. It’s copyright infringement if you don’t.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Dec 25, 2008 11:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not really^
copyright infringement can’t be avoided by attributing quotation. Plagarism can, but plagarism is not illegal. For instance, if I collected all of TZ’s writings on StR and turned them into a profitable book, he probably wouldn’t care if I properly attributed them. He’d just want the profit from his intellectual profit.
since HarbirD isn’t trying to profit by quoting, but is instead trying to stimulate critical evaluation, it is completely fair use. links are nice for readers who want to dig deeper, but not legally necessary.
by furious.d on Dec 29, 2008 4:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
*intellectual property
karma for trying to sound smart.
by furious.d on Dec 29, 2008 4:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay on the legal aspect
But, it’s rude to not attribute somebody’s writing to them anyway. I don’t care how you look at it. Quoting someone else should include a link. It’s part of the deal.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Dec 29, 2008 9:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't mess with the Pooky police
It went from illegal to rude – and will be punished
"You keep on using that word
I do not think it mean what you think it means"
by lietothegirls on Dec 29, 2008 10:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not about me or what I think
But, it won’t matter what I say. It’s always about me all the time right?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Dec 29, 2008 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No
I keep telling you.
It’s about ME.
Jeez.
Coming to you live from the land of interim coaches.
by LeaguePassAddict on Dec 29, 2008 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, duh!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Dec 29, 2008 11:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We're 3 years away from contending, HOPEFULLY
So, do we need help at PG? Yes. But, we also need help at PF & Center, and could use anothe backup at SG & SF. So, if we’re 3 drafts away from contending, do we need to draft any position more than another. OR, do we just draft for the biggist potential star available?
If Griffin & Thabeet & Rubio are gone, do we draft a pure PG or Harden assuming that he’s the best player available? Do you pick a ready now guy, or the guy with the most potential? Do you want to get much better right away, or do you want a champianship?
If you just want to improve your record right away, your best choice is to trade down. Give up the top choice for more choices , or a lower choice and a player. If your going for the home run, you pick the best chance for a star no matter what position. Then you make the trades and acquisitions you need to fill your needs later. And, if your right at the brink of being a contender, then you go for the position of need. The one player that will give you the push over the top.
We’re nowhere near being a contender, and we’ve 3 or 4 draft away. That’s 3 or 4 drafts or trades away from needing a star PG. We should draft for star potential. Then trade for needs. And, since we won’t know what our needs will be until after the draft, we should trade our expiring for cap space which allows the most flexiblity to fill needs later.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on Dec 24, 2008 4:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Good point
A team should draft for talent and ceiling. It’s just that this year’s PG crop was good so I decided to focus on that. However if we get the first pick, I would defintely snap up Blake Griffen
by HarbirD on Dec 24, 2008 5:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Take the best player available
Or trade the pick.
I need to bone up on college hoops, but so far I’m not hearing about anybody who sounds like the next coming of Michael Jordan or Chris Paul.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Dec 25, 2008 4:03 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
You mean Blake Griffin doesn't strike your fancy?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Dec 25, 2008 9:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Blake doesn’t excite me too much. I can see him becoming a decent NBA player but nothing extraordinary. He looks that much better and deserving of hype because the next potential draft class is going to be boring. It’s all relative. Trust me. I’m a genius among idiots.
So far there are no players in the next draft that thrill me with star potential like Rose, Mayo, and Beasley did in the last one. This might change if Rubio enters. I know the 2 is our least position of need, but currenty I am diggin’ Harden and Curry.
by creep on Dec 26, 2008 10:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Blake could be Beasley, could be Marcus Fizer
it is a lottery on both sides of the ledger. Personally, I am still waiting on my six lucky numbers to work.
by betweentheeyes on Dec 26, 2008 11:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Power Forward doesn't seem to be an All Star drafting position
In the last 8 drafts only 2 PF were drafted #1, Bargnani in 06 and Howard in 04. I kind of think that Blake is closer to Bargnani than Howard. But, then the NBA is like a box of chocolates, you never know… MJ wasn’t the top pick at the time he was drafted, but he obviously had the greatest potential.
When it comes to potential we learned the hard way with Douby, don’t expect to make a player into something he isn’t. And, if you draft a player for a position where he will be undersized, you better be sure he’s the next Charles Barkley. If your drafting a Big you make sure he’s big enough and can play defense. IF you’re drafting a 2 or 3 you make sure he’s not undersize, is athletic and is a deadly shooter. And, if your drafting a PG, you make sure he’s the best playmaker who can defend. Where potential comes into play, is where your defenders ( Bigs & PG) develop offensive skills, and your scorers (SG & SF) develop some defensive skills.
I think Thabeet , Holiday , & Harden all fit the bill of having the needed skills now and potential down the road. So much so, that if we were to get the #1 pick, I’d be willing to trade Martin and Salmon and future draft picks for the rights to draft 2nd & 3rd..
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
by HighTops on Dec 26, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
now that would be a story
rec’d for thinking outside the box.
by betweentheeyes on Dec 26, 2008 2:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
1984 was a great draft
And Akeem Olajuwon went first overall. I think he turned out okay.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Dec 26, 2008 9:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If Sam Bowie wasn't injured who knows
during research, found this: http://www.nba.com/history/stats_top_picks.html
Makes the hindsight-o-meter ever more valuable.
by betweentheeyes on Dec 27, 2008 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sho
But Michael Jordan may not have been Michael Jordan had he been selected by Portland.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Dec 27, 2008 1:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Snark is a beautiful thing
Unfortunately I was serious.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Dec 27, 2008 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ultimate surprise, belated Xmas present
I was truly agreeing with you – no snark intended.
by betweentheeyes on Dec 27, 2008 7:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
I guess I am as dumb as I purport myself to be. Well played, sir.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Dec 27, 2008 10:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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