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GAME 56 at Miami, Preview & Game Thread

If you would have told me in October the Kings would have 15 more wins than Miami after the All-Star break, I would have kicked your goldfish and sang a song. How bizarre is this world.

SACRAMENTO KINGS (26-29)  107.6 ORtg (#15), 110.4 DRtg (#23), 92.8 Pace (# 8)
MIAMI HEAT        (9-44)  102.6 ORtg (#28), 110.6 DRtg (#25), 90.1 Pace (#14)
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Actually, I knew Miami wouldn't be as good as they have seemed (well my alter-ego knew, at least). But nine wins and 44 losses is a bit much. One win since Christmas? That's a bit much. This team has DWYANE fricking WADE! It should not be this bad.

Shockingly, the team's been downright terrible in close games. Based on point differential, they should be 13-40 or 14-39. Instead, 9-44. Why? Tons and tons of close losses. Wade (and in different stretches Udonis Haslem and Shawn Marion) have kept them in games, even gotten the team in position to win games. But it hasn't happened.

Wade's not up to his usual standards, though he's (obviously) still very good. Blame injuries, blame the supporting cast. Ricky Davis has been god-awful -- a self-proclaimed scorer should not be relegated to 15 points per 40 minutes; every Kings rotation player but Mikki Moore scores at that level or higher (and everyone but Quincy Douby and Spencer Hawes does it with a higher True Shooting percentage).

But still -- it's Dwyane Wade. It's Shawn Marion. These two are good great players. Games like this worry me more than contests in Orlando or Houston. If you lose to Orlando, who cares? Orlando's good. If you lose to Miami, look forward to at least a day and possibly seven of jokes. A loss to Orlando is disappointing but manageable. A loss to Miami -- for us, the fans, whom have absolutely no role in a victory or loss -- is embarrassing. I don't know why. And I'll still wear my Kings hat Wednesday. But I'll feel 28% worse about life and Earth, which will lead me to being 28% more mean to the barista and the bus driver.

So basically, if Reggie Theus lets Kevin Martin languish on the bench while a game slips away again, I'm not going to say 'thank you' to the barista and I'm not going to tell the bus driver to 'have a nice day.' Do you want that on your conscience, Reggie?

Mark Blount and Brad Miller will jump reach for the ball at approximately 4:30 p.m. Go Kings.

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This game is not on TV
What channell was this game supposed to be on? because i'm looking at my tv guide and i don't see it.

by rimrock101 on Feb 26, 2008 4:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

rimrock!
You old dog. It's on KXTV 10 here in Sacramento.
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by section214 on Feb 26, 2008 4:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's always lurking section
You never know where he'll pop up.
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by pookeyguru on Feb 27, 2008 2:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

we better win by 5 pts
come on this is the heat, if we cant beat them with a 5 point lead we dont deserve to win. but i have a bad feeling about this. whenever we go up against an athletic big man we just suck on "D".  
GO KINGS !!!

by maiku on Feb 26, 2008 4:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Uh oh
Looks like jump-shot Ron tonight. 1-5 so far. Take it to the block Ron.

by Kfan in Korea on Feb 26, 2008 4:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Miami Woe Must End
It's time to end the streak in Miami.

But we lost still 88-78 in Miami in '03 with us 59-23 and the HEAT 25-57

The Sacramento Kings: Where Amazing Happens!

by kingme18 on Feb 26, 2008 4:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

OT
I feel bad for the Rockets :(

by kingme on Feb 26, 2008 5:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hold out hope.
Hollinger has us at 0.7% to make the playoffs. We got this.

by moproblemz on Feb 26, 2008 5:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha,
Even if I agreed with hollinger, it would take a monumental collapse for at LEAST three teams in our conference for us to make it. Houston Lost Yao... 1 down....
Warning: StR may actually lead to familial disputes. - TZ

by killerking on Feb 26, 2008 5:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Come on Cisco!
STOP FOULING CISCO!
The Sacramento Kings: Where Amazing Happens!

by kingme18 on Feb 26, 2008 5:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

someone
tell the kings that those white jerseys in the middle of lane are NOT, in fact, ghosts, and the ball does not travel through them.
the sacramento kings: where joel przybilla happens

by ptgloden on Feb 26, 2008 5:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Really?!?
I come home from work to find the Kings losing to the Heat by 8 in the first half.  Really...I mean really.  Come on guys.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Feb 26, 2008 5:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Artest with . . .
. . . more attempts than any other player in the game. Does anyone else see a problem with this?

by SavageBeast on Feb 26, 2008 5:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I promise you
that Ron has no problem with it.  Nor will coolcat.

The last possession of the half was horrible, there was no way Ron was going to pass that ball.  He ran straight at 3 defenders and got his shot blocked.

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Feb 26, 2008 5:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

For me it's not the attempts
it's that all but 1 or 2 have been long jumpers.

by Kfan in Korea on Feb 26, 2008 5:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We suck at "D"
how many points in the paint do the heat have ???
GO KINGS !!!

by maiku on Feb 26, 2008 5:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Who's guarding Marion?
Because he's destroying us.

by Kfan in Korea on Feb 26, 2008 6:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Air is
The only thing guarding Marion are air particles.
The Sacramento Kings: Where Amazing Happens!

by kingme18 on Feb 26, 2008 6:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

tough
Don't worry about the run by the HEAT, the HEAT are prone to offensive droughts. So just keep plugging away, it will come eventually for them.
The Sacramento Kings: Where Amazing Happens!

by kingme18 on Feb 26, 2008 6:08 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Beno
Beno = Not the starting PG of the future

by Hoops916 on Feb 26, 2008 6:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

If you go by tonight
We don't have any starters. ESPECIALLY Artest.
TickTickTickTickTickTick

by LeaguePassAddict on Feb 26, 2008 6:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A loss to Miami is embarassing, I don't
know what a blowout is. This is just ugly.

by Kfan in Korea on Feb 26, 2008 6:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Congrats Miami!
They finally break the streak and win their 2nd game  in 28 attempts.

BOOK IT!!! for the Kings

The Sacramento Kings: Where Amazing Happens!

by kingme18 on Feb 26, 2008 6:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

my bad
for the Heat*
The Sacramento Kings: Where Amazing Happens!

by kingme18 on Feb 26, 2008 6:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Kings down by 24.
I dont even want to go to work tomorrow.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Feb 26, 2008 6:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

So maybe a top draft pick isn't
out of the question after all? Gotta be a silver lining here somewhere.

by SavageBeast on Feb 26, 2008 6:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

So bad
One thing became crystal clear during the third quarter. I don't know enough bad words.
TickTickTickTickTickTick

by LeaguePassAddict on Feb 26, 2008 6:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

We'll see if the numbers back it up
But I think we might have been outplayed in the 3rd.

by Kingsfan banished to AZ on Feb 26, 2008 6:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Numbers or not
We were definitely out-coached.
TickTickTickTickTickTick

by LeaguePassAddict on Feb 26, 2008 6:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You're right of course
but I might have thrown a little sarcasm in there

by Kingsfan banished to AZ on Feb 26, 2008 6:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Caught it
TickTickTickTickTickTick

by LeaguePassAddict on Feb 26, 2008 6:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Spencer Hawes
and not much else tonight.
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by section214 on Feb 26, 2008 6:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Got 15 points
but has the worst plus-minus on the team: -18.  I'm not watching the game, but that suggests to me poor defense.

by thelettere on Feb 26, 2008 6:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It suggests to me
that he happens to be on the floor with the guys that suck the most tonight. Hawes has not been a defensive terror tonight, but he is the last reason that the Kings are getting whupped right now.
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by section214 on Feb 26, 2008 6:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty spot on
but I would say a big part of it was giving up O boards when he's in.  Of course that's just what I saw.

by Kingsfan banished to AZ on Feb 26, 2008 6:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hawes is Good
I now know two things about Hawes.
  1. He can score
  2. He can pass

by Mikey G on Feb 26, 2008 7:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Now
If only he can rebound

by kingme on Feb 26, 2008 7:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

20 Boards In His Last 44 Minutes
Of course, that was coming into tonight. Only 2 in 26 tonight. Rookies.
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by section214 on Feb 26, 2008 8:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We
are definitely tanking

by kingme on Feb 26, 2008 7:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Okay
I admit it, we clearly should have traded Ron. That was a mistake. He's gone

by kingme on Feb 26, 2008 7:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Haven't been so happy I missed a game
...since I caught the Shaun Livingston(PLEASE get better!) low-light on ESPN. Looks like everyone sucked tonight stat-wise, and I imagine it looked worse than it reads. The Kings historically play to the level of their opponents, and I felt this might happen...but that bad?  Yeesh.
The wise man tells you Where you have fallen And where you yet may fall - Invaluable secrets! The world may hate him. But good men love him.

by Psychrates on Feb 26, 2008 9:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

This is great
Hedo: Well, if it makes you feel any better at least you'll probably beat the Heat on Tuesday.

by vfettke on Feb 26, 2008 9:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Quite Frankly
Not surprised by the outcome of the game but surprised by the fact they were blown out.

Miami has played teams tough but they're also talented with Wade, Marion, J-Will, Davis etc and they're hungry for a win.

However I will be expecting a different outcome when the teams come to Sacto.

The Sacramento Kings: Where Amazing Happens!

by kingme18 on Feb 26, 2008 10:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Didn't see the game
Not televised here. Looks like that worked out well.

When you think about it, the Kings are probably lucky to have won as many games as they have.

They have two fairly reliable veteran starters who are good, but have their faults and are not All-Stars. They have an emerging young shooting guard who is also not an All-Star and has some weaknesses. So that's three fairly solid performers who probably all rank in the top half of the starters at their position in the league, but none are top 5.

Then they have a point guard in his first season as a starter, and they round out the starting five with a journeyman power forward who is barely in the top 50 at his position.

Their bench is a work in progress. They have a nice swing man who can nail the three, and a career substitute who suddenly must start to be effective. They have two young big men who are inconsistent, but haven't really gotten the playing time it takes to become consistent.

They have a former Big East scoring leader who isn't a point guard but is "playing" the position when he plays at all.

Then they have a sponge who is soaking up salary, a hurt guy who is soaking upo salary and will probably never play again and three toss-in expiring players from Hotlanta.

Oh, yeah, I forgot, they also have a rookie coach who's never coached in the NBA and came from college.

I honestly don't know where the Kings go from here. I think they have a core in Miller, Artest and Martin that can keep them in the .500 range but not much better unless they improve the point guard and power forward positions and add a couple more solid veteran bench players.

I hope Beno works out, and if they sign him to a nice deal in the off season I hope we can find another decent point guard to back him up or start if necessary.

I'm not sure the power forward solution is on the roster. I am looking for a monster who scores, rebounds, dunks and blocks shots. I know, I'm not too picky.

I frankly don't care who they trade and who they keep. I just hope they can at some point overcome this cycle of mediocrity.

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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 26, 2008 10:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Well Coolcat
I'm not sure the power forward solution is on the roster. I am looking for a monster who scores, rebounds, dunks and blocks shots. I know, I'm not too picky.
Yeah, you're also un-realistic. If the Kings had 3 all-stars they should be at least a 500 team.
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by pookeyguru on Feb 27, 2008 2:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But
They don't have any All-Stars. I'm not sure of your point or if you just misread it.
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 27, 2008 7:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You mis-read it
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Feb 27, 2008 9:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, Lucy
Maybe you can 'splain it to me then, because it makes no sense.

Maybe as a standalone comment, but not in response to what I wrote, which was: "They have two fairly reliable veteran starters who are good, but have their faults and are not All-Stars. They have an emerging young shooting guard who is also not an All-Star ..."

Actually, even as a standalone comment it doesn't make any sense, unless you can show me a team from the past that had three All-Stars and did not play .500 ball.

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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 27, 2008 12:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

For an intelligent guy
you strike me as a guy who doesn't live up to it. How was my comment hard to understand?

I said if the team had 3 all-stars (they have 2) then they should be a 500 team at a minimum. That's all I said.

I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Feb 27, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hit Him On the Head
They don't have two All-Stars.

They have NO All-Stars.

None.

Zero.

Am I going too fast for you? If so, I can slow down.

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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 27, 2008 3:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You see I was being kind to Artest
And you're proving my point about how valuable Artest is if you really don't think of him an as all star caliber player.
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Feb 27, 2008 4:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There was no need to "prove" a point
I conceded in the first post he is a very good player, among the top half at his position, a solid veteran and one of only two with solid starting experience on the team, but not currently an All-Star.

Your statement still makes no sense.

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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 27, 2008 4:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you conceded the point about Artest
not being an all star why keep the guy period? I don't get it.
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Feb 27, 2008 4:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It'd be a pretty thin league
if you had to get rid of all your non All-Stars.

There's 24 All-Stars this year and 30 teams.

But, as I've said before, nobody on the Kings is untouchable.

Artest is one of two or three players on the Kings who is close to being an All-Star. Naturally you can get rid of all three if you'd like.

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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 27, 2008 5:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Can't disagree with you
The roster as it stands is not going to cut it long-term.

I think there's always a little luck involved in getting to the top.  Maybe ours will include a friendly ping-pong ball in the offseason.

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by otis29 on Feb 27, 2008 6:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We Need A Crap Package
Kind of a reverse of the Bibby trade. Instead, this time we send a bunch of our expendable crap to someone for a talented starter or veteran who has played starter minutes.

I thought what Cleveland did was interesting. They had one trade that was our crap for your crap - the trade with the Bulls. Then they had the expirings for a veteran who can help them deal with Seattle.

Maybe there is someone out there who thinks Salmons can help them as a starter and will take on Douby and others while giving us back a quality big.

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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 27, 2008 7:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That could happen
And I would love to see us get a couple of pieces in the next two years that put us into contention.

But I think it's more likely that you end up with a gradual process of improvement that takes three to five years. We've been spoiled by a long run of playoff teams, but remember how long we suffered with mediocre teams before we finally put togther a group that made it back into the playoffs.

We've got a couple of good pieces, but I predict that Brad, Ron, and much of our roster will be gone before we are a serious title contender again.

by SavageBeast on Feb 27, 2008 9:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

One More Possibility
Start Salmons and bring Martin off the bench as a supersub Energizer Bunny. Maybe he will charge up like he did in his first two games back from injury.

In the NBA it's more important who finishes the game than who starts it.

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by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 27, 2008 7:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Can anybody explain to me
why in the world does Monta look like a better player than Martin? Martin should be the better player, is it because of Theus? His FG % is suddenly down and he has been missing FTs. Maybe it's because of Mike, LOL

by kingme on Feb 27, 2008 1:45 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Couple things
Being a Kings fan in Miami sucks. The last time they won there is when? The Kings always suck vs Miami in Miami. Even when the Heat have stunk. Oui
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by pookeyguru on Feb 27, 2008 3:57 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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