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Wednesday Footnotes

  • The worst thing about the ridiculous Shaquille O'Neal to Phoenix maelstrom? It is now more difficult to make fun of people for their outlandish trade ideas.
  • Even though Super Tuesday's done, your civic duty is not. Vote for Madelynn, and all your wildest dreams will come true.
  • So you know, Sam Amick says he didn't press Ron Artest to squawk about moving on; Ron brought it up in the context of a completely different conversation.
  • Also, Amick recently broke down the records of eventual #8 seeds.
  • Spencer Hawes endorses Mitt Romney. Hey Spence? You might be a few days late on that one.
  • From the same link: Brad Miller will be a game-time decision. Could Hawes get the first start of his career, or will Reggie Theus go small?
  • Disclaimer: I don't follow American Idol. At all. But this article says this guy will perform at a Kings game this season. Walking punchlines are probably more entertaining than random area drill teams, with no offense to the awesome baton-twirlers and yard-stompers of the greater Sacramento area.
  • Eric Pincus of HOOPSWORLD has sources who call Denver and New York "very interested" in Artest. Meanwhile, David Lee is still getting fewer minutes than both Zach Randolph and Eddy Curry while the Knicks have lost six straight and are 20 games under .500.

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Rise guys
I'm sure some of you heard it but the website got a good shout out from the Riseguys this morning.  Nice work TZ, good to see you get some more local props..
Damn you Robert Horry!!!

by chupacabra on Feb 6, 2008 9:39 AM PST reply actions  

the gist of it
Well, I was half asleep but the essence of it was that the site had really good content and insight and they were amused by the "Sactown Royalty Hope Alert System".
Damn you Robert Horry!!!

by chupacabra on Feb 6, 2008 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

My question:
Can Shaq even pass a physical currently???
Disclaimer: I am anti-Bibby.

by otis29 on Feb 6, 2008 9:52 AM PST reply actions  

I hope Hawes starts
Miller needs to heal and increase his chances of coming back friday against the Jazz.  It would be bad if he came back too soon and ripped his stitches.

by KingsFan on Feb 6, 2008 10:00 AM PST reply actions  

About the 8th seed...
The king are tied w/ denver for most experience being in the 8th seed in the last 15 years.  The way I see it, that makes us the favorite!!!
balls to the walls

by kangsfan on Feb 6, 2008 10:01 AM PST reply actions  

So far...
I have been dabbling with the trade machine, which I guess makes me officially the last member of StR to do so and the trades that I have come up with so far that I think could be done in regards to NY and Denver are as follows.

To Denver:  Ron Artest, Kenny Thomas

From Denver: Nene, Najera

We essentially switch bad contracts and hope that Nene eventually becomes productive, which theoretically he should be.  The problems arise in the fact that Nene's contract is two years longer than  K9's so it is definitely a gamble, however, it shouldn't be hard for Nene to supplant the Lobster.

Next trade...

To New York: Ron Artest, Kenny Thomas, Mike Bibby

From New York: Stephon Marbury, David Lee, Fred Collins

We essentially take on Stephon Marbury's craziness in exchange for the services of David Lee who would become an immediate starter at the four.  Marbury is going under the knife today so that would mean we would be giving the Knicks more immediate talent Artest + Bibby, in exchange for taking NY's head-case.  As far as when the numbers come off the books, Collins is at the end of this year and Marbury and Lee are at the end of next year.

Their had been rumblings at one point that Isiah was looking at Bibby as well, but who can really be sure.  I would rather deal with NY as the trades don't effect the future nearly as much, with every player we take back having a max of two years left.  Although, I could definitely see Petrie pulling the trigger with Denver to move K9 and get Nene, who he may or may not like, back.

by moproblemz on Feb 6, 2008 10:02 AM PST reply actions  

I would rather keep K9
This is sacrilege I understand. I just don't think Petrie can get any deal with Artest done if he insists moving Thomas. Thomas' contract is too much of a poison pill.
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Feb 6, 2008 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

My son has a pair of Starburys
We got them for $9.

Amen to neither exchanging one headcase for another, nor one bad contract for a worse one.

I think that if Petrie (had lost his mind completely and) traded for Shaq, we as fans should have boycotted the games until Shaq stood at center court in a dress and tiara and proclaimed himself a Sacramento Queen.

I also think that since the Suns made that trade, maybe we could trade K9 for Nash straight up.

Coolcat's off the hook. Now we have an actual instance of glue-sniffing induced trading.

Ron Artest: A legend in his own mind.

by LeaguePassAddict on Feb 6, 2008 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Guess we'll see
if Shaq can maintain his level of effectiveness in the West with more up front players banging against him. Yowzah.
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Feb 6, 2008 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Mike D'Antoni"s New Offense - 4 on 5.
I see the Phoenix Sun's current run and gun offensive scheme continuing, with the Sun's deploying 4 offensive players against a 5 man defense.  While having Shaq back to discourage any fastbreak/cherry picking opportunities. (If Phoenix averages 6-7 seconds into a fresh shot clock before taking a shot, the Diesel would not be past the opponents 3 point line.)

Seriously, this looks like Steve Kerr flexing his GM muscles and showing D'Antoni who is in charge.

Disclaimer: I am PRO-SACKINGS.

by ridnour8 on Feb 6, 2008 11:40 AM PST reply actions  

Something we need more of, Ron Artest trade tumors
I may be a bit behind on this, but I was just watching the best of mike and mike. Did ric bucher just say that there were Ron to Golden State talks that died due to contracts not matching?
Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on Feb 6, 2008 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

Who knows?
Nothing will surprise me now.

I think this might refer to previous efforts, when Ron was with Indiana. Salaries wouldn't hold GSW back now, considering their big trade exception... unless Cohan's unwilling to pay the tax, which is a rumor going around w/r/t Gasol.

by Tom Ziller on Feb 6, 2008 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks
Good catch. Free Hawes!

by Tom Ziller on Feb 6, 2008 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice
Game will probably be broadcast in Washington. Let's hope Spencer makes the home folk proud.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Feb 6, 2008 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll write a diary & watch the pre game
stuff up here. Let you know if I catch anything.
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Feb 6, 2008 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

possible deals
If the Heat can get rid of Shaq, the Kings can find someone to take K-9

Hey if the Rise Guys indeed read this (or someone from their staff), do Sacramento a favor and fire FP, he is an anchor on what can be a decent show.

I say no to trading for any guys with "character issues" no matter who talented, name me a championship team with bad guys who won

Petrie I think has it right, in that if you act in haste you repent at leisure

by Murf on Feb 6, 2008 2:53 PM PST reply actions  

Stephen Jackson?
I saw many players named below, but thought I'd add Stephen Jackson (who was right behind Artest in the Detroit stands) since he has a ring from his time in San Antonio.

I know there's more, but that was a pretty obvious one to me.

by smgmatt on Feb 6, 2008 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh!
Makes my J. O'neal trade a LIL more feasiblem huh?
The wise man tells you Where you have fallen And where you yet may fall - Invaluable secrets! The world may hate him. But good men love him.

by Psychrates on Feb 6, 2008 4:43 PM PST reply actions  

I'll take the above challenge...Dirty winners.
Michael Jordan, Bulls(Gambling on Basketball, punching Steve Kerr in the face during practice)

Kobe Bryant, Lakers(C'mon...)

Shaquille O'Neal, Lakers/Heat(Ask Vlade's teeth. or Deke's face)

Rasheed Wallace, Pistons (King 'T' hisself)

Dennis Rodman, Bulls/Pistons(Too much to be listed here)

Bill Laimbeer(Remember him biting THROUGH another players hand to the bone?)

Etc. Etc. Etc.

The wise man tells you Where you have fallen And where you yet may fall - Invaluable secrets! The world may hate him. But good men love him.

by Psychrates on Feb 6, 2008 4:58 PM PST reply actions  

In regards to Shaq
You forgot Bobby Jackson's hand.

But, then, the hand is part of the ball...

Ron Artest: A legend in his own mind.

by LeaguePassAddict on Feb 6, 2008 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I forgot a big one...
Rick Fox... I think DC took care of that though.
The wise man tells you Where you have fallen And where you yet may fall - Invaluable secrets! The world may hate him. But good men love him.

by Psychrates on Feb 6, 2008 6:12 PM PST reply actions  

Nope.
If you caught the footage of the tunnel fighting, you'll see Rick Fox get crushed three times and slump unconscious on the wall...
The wise man tells you Where you have fallen And where you yet may fall - Invaluable secrets! The world may hate him. But good men love him.

by Psychrates on Feb 6, 2008 10:08 PM PST reply actions  

I caught a good link
Blazer's Edge has a fascinating interview with Blazer strength & conditioning coach Bobby Medina. I will leave you with the most interesting quote to me personally:

Blazersedge:  Going back ten years or so, the consensus was that Michael Jordan and Karl Malone were the players in the best shape in the league.  People would point at their body fat percentages and the number of minutes they played.  Who would you consider, outside of the Blazers roster, to be the best conditioned players in the league?

I know hands down Kobe Bryant.  I've had the opportunity to work with him.  He's a relentless worker.  I've never seen a guy like him that will work as hard and as long as him.  I would put LeBron in that category too.  He's a tireless worker.  Tim Duncan, historically, stays in great shape.  He starts his workouts in early August.  Most of the Spurs stay in town and they work out with him.  He kind of controls the workouts in the summer time.  Those are three guys that would be on the top of my list.

 
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Feb 7, 2008 1:25 AM PST reply actions  

Tim Duncan?
Wow, did not expect that, to tell you the truth. I would have Lebron and Kobe on my list of the fittest, but I would have thrown in Zo, Craig Smith, Ben Wallace, Ben Gordon, Harpring, and Derick Fisher on that list before Duncan. I love Timmy, but one of the fittest guys in the league? really? crazy.
Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Feb 7, 2008 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Guys who work are the one's who kick
the most ass sir.
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Feb 7, 2008 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

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