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So Long, Sweet C-Webb

Chris Webber is retiring tomorrow.

Peaches took the occasion to mention his lasting memory of Chris will be that he couldn't win the big game. If I had an opportunity, I'd ask Peaches how what his lasting memory of Peja, Vlade, DC13, Bibby, and Hedo would be if they retired today. (Not to mention Karl Malone, John Stockton or Charles Barkley.)

It's funny -- I remember the big game our Kings didn't win. I don't remember it being Webber's fault.

Here's my lasting memory of C-Webb.

This is when I came to the full realization the Kings actually mattered. This wasn't some fluke, some flash in the NBA pan. The Kings could win it all. We could beat Kobe and Shaq. We could beat anyone.

Ah, innocence.

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Doh!
I just posted a diary about this.

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 25, 2008 6:48 PM PDT reply actions  

One Knee Injury
away from being the undisputed greatest Sacramento King ever.

Good luck in the future, C-Webb. And thanks for best times that I've ever had at ARCO Arena.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Mar 25, 2008 6:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh man
Oh man, you should have seen me after that knee injury.  About a week after the previous season's Game 7 loss, I knew, KNEW the Kings were going to win it all the next season.  There was absolutely no question in my mind.  I had my season tickets, and I was going to the NBA Finals.  I was plotting strategy on where to park for the championship parade down K Street.    I'd tell my grandkids how great it all was.  The championship was inevitable.  

Then Webber's knee collapsed, and I was an asshole for a full week after that.  I don't mean that in a figurative sense.  I mean that I barely talked to anyone for a week.  When I did, I spoke in grunts.  You want to talk about living vicariously through your team - that was me.  

I'm still a Kings fan, but it's never been the same since.  I watched that team form, loved watching them play, and grew to "know" and like all the guys on the team.  Webber was a very big part making that team what it was.  

My memory of Chris Webber isn't not winning, it's all the fun I had watching those Kings teams win all the games they did.  

by Carl on Mar 26, 2008 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember
the epic battles with Utah. When it became clear that Malone couldn't stop him, I knew we had something special. Be well C-Webb.

by Kfan in Korea on Mar 25, 2008 6:55 PM PDT reply actions  

i'll admit - the first kings game i ever seen.....
was game 2 in 1999, with the flagrant foul on john stockton, c-webb changed the attitude of the franchise with one swift move.
It's May 12th 1999, America waits in anticipation as Todd Fuller steps to the line.....

by CrownUs93 on Mar 25, 2008 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was a great foul...
if for no other reason than to announce we weren't a  laughing stock any longer.  I've always had a place in my heart for C-Webb.  I wish he could have won a ring, but I think he's right to retire now.  Unlike so many other players, there is much more to Chris than basketball.  I'm glad to see that he'll get the chance to pursue outside interests while he's still (compared to the rest of us) young and healthy.

by misterbrister on Mar 26, 2008 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kfan in Korea's comment
Here's what Kfan in Korea wrote in his diary (which I deleted to keep all the discussion in one place):

---
Stein has a story here
There's also a series of questions about Webber's legacy

Adelman getting #800, Webber retiring. Too many reminders of the near greatness of the past puting into perspective the bleak quagmire of the present. Think I will go cry now.
---

by Tom Ziller on Mar 25, 2008 6:55 PM PDT reply actions  

dude...
my comment totally got sucked into a black hole because of that.

damn.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Mar 25, 2008 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apologies
Sorry bud; that's why I tried to swiftly consolidate matters. Not swiftly enough!

by Tom Ziller on Mar 26, 2008 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha
No worries.
Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Mar 26, 2008 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thank God,
we didn't know then what the future looked like or we'd have been crying for the last five years.

Off topic rhetorical question:  If the NBA is a players league, why do the players keep retiring (or getting hurt), but the coaches keep coaching?
 

God bless you, Corliss. You always played as though you knew how expensive my tickets were. -section214

by KK on Mar 25, 2008 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely amazing
That is exactly the moment that I realized the Kings were legit also.  I remember calling my brother that night and us screaming about it.  We were at sports bars in different towns and both saw it on the tv.  That night could be my favorite in Kings history.  Thank you, TZ, for posting this.

by RockRichmond on Mar 25, 2008 7:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Mayce Edward Christopher Webber III
Chris,

You have meant more to me as a basketball fan then you could ever know.  I followed the Kings on and off as a child, mostly because my older sister's friends all did.  As I grew up, I learned what it was like to be a fan for a bad team, but loyal none-the-less.  I honestly never thought the Kings would be any good, it just wasnt who they were.  

Then you came to town and everything changed.  I remember thinking, "this should be fun for a few months", but when you resigned for 1 billion dollars, I thought you were a steal.  My team had Chris Webber!  Suddenly more than the first round exit seemed plausible.  Then everything got even more fun.  Not olny did the team get better, it got GOOD.  Really good.

While some may remember you as always being so close to being a winner, I dont.  I remember everything you brought to the team.  Not just on the court, but of of it.  Your personality and character were both honest and annoying (hey, who's isn't when perfection is expected).  And that was just it, you became more than just a player on my team, you became the face of the franchise, and in turn, a part of the community.

When a city like Sacramento gets a successful team, we have a way of overwhelming a players life (what else do we have to do?).  But, unlike countless others, you seemed to embrace it.  You werent perfect, but you were real.  You helped make sports real for me.  In sports there will always be wins and losses, but when players you've never met seem like friends, its bigger than the game.  I still think of you, Peja, Christie, Bibby, Bobby-J, Hedu and Vlade like friends from college.  There is a reason grown men cry when their team wins.  It's something we all go through together.

I have sworn and cursed you a thousand times, but you were always Chris.  You always tried, and you always wanted to win.  

Thanks for the memmories, and enjoy your retirement.

27freethrows

P.S.

I will now flame this thread with some of my favorite Webber pictures.  Consider it a StR mini-roast.

Peace bro!

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Mar 25, 2008 8:08 PM PDT reply actions  

thank you Webb
For everything. I hope you move back to sactown and go to your restaurant every night or take peaches' spot in the booth. Anything to keep you here in the Best city you ever played in. And if maybe you make the hall (my fingers are crossed) you'll go down as a Sacramento King
when will the Kenny Thomas Reign of Terror end?!!??

by diehardkingsfan5 on Mar 25, 2008 8:46 PM PDT reply actions  

C-Webb in game 7
Not that I like to talk about this, but I remember a few missed free throws and a disappearance in OT. But I was 18 then, my recollection could be hazy in my old age.
Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on Mar 25, 2008 9:06 PM PDT reply actions  

I mean, how cant you love C-Webb
he was such a good listener

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by 27freethrows on Mar 25, 2008 11:08 PM PDT reply actions  

He loved us fans
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by 27freethrows on Mar 25, 2008 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

just remember the time
we all went to the pool

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by 27freethrows on Mar 25, 2008 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

but yes
he did have a weakness for the ladies

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by 27freethrows on Mar 25, 2008 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

can you blame him though
with a flat top like this!

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by 27freethrows on Mar 25, 2008 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

we even used to
skip down the street together

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by 27freethrows on Mar 25, 2008 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

just because your career is over
doesnt mean you have to be sad

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by 27freethrows on Mar 25, 2008 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

because now you'll have time
to go golfing wht Chuck

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by 27freethrows on Mar 25, 2008 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

and you'll always be
just one of the guys

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by 27freethrows on Mar 25, 2008 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why, oh why
Has this picture not been made into a poster yet?

make that sucka 4 feet long, I'd put it on my wall.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Mar 26, 2008 3:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

2 memories
Sad - watching webber lay on the ground in Dallas in Game 2 of the WC Semi's

Happy - The first time i saw the "CWebb's House" sign on the side of ARCO

by kingsTV on Mar 25, 2008 11:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh yah
I refused to post the picture.  I can even look at here without feeling a little sick.
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by 27freethrows on Mar 25, 2008 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

C-Webb
A very smooth and consistent big man you could count on for a regular double-double. He gave good glare. He probably settled for the elbow jumper a little more than most folks would like, but he made his share and still grabbed a lot of boards. Excellent passing skills, and he could lay a guy on his ass with a screen (you could ask Derek Fisher).

Naturally we all wished he had lifted the Kings a little higher, but he gave it a helluva shot.

by coolcatreportdotcom on Mar 26, 2008 12:10 AM PDT reply actions  

tears
We could win it all :,,,,,(

CWebb you'll be missed..

by Z3nBall3r on Mar 26, 2008 6:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Classy Guy
I remember just before the start of this season I volunteered to help out the underpriviledged students of the Rio Linda school district shop at target and what have you, because that was the only way they'd get new clothes.  CWebb ended up pitching in a free meal for every kid, 100+ or so at Centre Court, and then came out and gave them all autographed CWebb Sacramento Kings' Bobbleheads (baby blue even). He then proceeded to answer questions, talk to kids and was very social to the entire crowd.  We will definitely miss you CWebb, here's hoping you run for mayor in four years or so.

by moproblemz on Mar 26, 2008 10:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Sadness
I think that C-Webb retiring is a very poignant reminder of how great those few years were and how badly we all want to get back to that fun-to-watch, spectacularly high-scoring, bench-mob, chalupa-busting level of play.

Best wishes, Big Dog.

TickTickTickTickTickTick

by LeaguePassAddict on Mar 26, 2008 3:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I have many memories of Webb
I remember the team making the playoffs winning 10 outta 11 without them. I remember him hip-checking John Stockton. I remember his constant flirtation with the injured list. I remember the occasional game where he loooked like a top 5 player, and the occasional game when he didn't. I remember games where he grabbed 15 boards, and then proceeded to grab 7 the next night, quite often on a below average rebounding team even then. I remember the asinine comparisons to Tim Duncan, which seemed so then, and seem nostalgic now. I remember Webb being the only player to thank the fans for playing the part in a joke, that no-one in that locker room probably got, and I don't think even Vlade understood, after the fans booed Jon Barry. I remember Webb's knee injury. I remember Webb trying to be a superstar and carry a team on his back. I remember his offensive foul (pick) that set Bibby's shot in game 5. I remember his rant about the invasion of privacy (he didn't complaining inking that deal though did he?). I remember his trade to the Sixers and losing the first game in that uniform, ironically against the Kings. I remember the ovation he got when he returned to Arco later that same season. I remember the arrogance, the skills, the knowledge, the charisma, and the man. If nothing else, whether you loved him or not, thought highly of him or not, he's a hard person to forget. Hope all goes well in the next round Chris. Because no-one around here ever gave 2 shits about you calling a timeout.
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Mar 27, 2008 12:54 AM PDT reply actions  

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