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One Year Ago

A year ago, we debated which candidates we'd like to see Geoff Petrie and the Maloofs chase. I think on the whole we liked Stan Van Gundy; many of us also endorsed Terry Porter. In the end, we might have been split evenly between Brian Shaw, Kurt Rambis, and Reggie Theus, the three finalists for the job.

Remember: Larry Brown wanted the job. Lon Kruger wanted a shot. Tom Thibodeau (this year's most highly lusted-after assistant) got an interview. Bill Cartwright, Elston Turner, and Scott Brooks were all considered.

After an overachieving season with plenty of potholes, are you happy with the choice?

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Are you glad the Maloofs hired Reggie Theus?
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Theus was the right hire

With the young direction we’re going in, having an ex-player like Theus at coach was the only way to go. He knows what to look for because he’s been there. His opinion of who should get the ball at crunch time might be off, but I hear that’s Sam Amick’s fault anyways.

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on Apr 21, 2008 7:40 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Ha!

Agree with Muff209. His most recent misunderstanding (or was it ours) not withstanding, he did an outstanding job as a rookie coach dealing with a high number of injuries and roster changes.

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by section214 on Apr 21, 2008 8:01 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Made some mistakes but...

Reggie has made some mistakes along the way and continues to do so. However, he seems to know when he makes a mistake and in most cases, corrects it.

by Carl on Apr 21, 2008 9:40 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Not a Kings fan, but...

Reggie seems to be the right coach for you guys. You’re in good hands.

by Ben Q Rock on Apr 21, 2008 10:41 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Drunk Hire

Don’t be bamboozled fellow King-o-philes. You’re all ensnared in the same trap Joe and Gavin stupored into during the interview process. They got all hopped-up on suave and swagger. The Wise One (Petrie) wished to convert Shaw into a different shade of purple, but Reg’s charisma and references hoodwinked the billionaire bachelors (much like EMidget’s’ 100-page scouting binders fooled them last season) . Don’t allow this current newb’s bryl-creamed curls, manicured paws, or smooth delivery betray your common sense. He froths at the mouth in the paper and attempts to hijack KHTK on Saturday to conceal his faux pas using basketball jargon and X and O mumbo-jumbo.

Our beloved Kings won 38 games. Terrific. Low expectations beget higher ones, and that is frightening my friends. Next season should be all about development of the youth. If Reg would have embraced this concept in January and not on April 1, who knows where these kids could have finished.

It’s a Theusocracy people.

K.S.

by Kingspin on Apr 21, 2008 11:46 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Ah, yet another one

All bad decisions come via the Maloofs, all that is happy-happy, joy-joy comes from the mind of our local Diety, Geoff Petrie (hey, that rhymes).

Funny, I can’t keep any of this straight. Was the Musselman hire forced upon Petrie by the Maloofs, and then Reggie was the candidate Petrie forced through since Musselman crashed and burned? Or is Petrie just a spineless “GM in name only” who continues to work for ownership that doesn’t really listen to him?

Seriously, I don’t think anyone here is being bamboozled or hoodwinked. The results speak for themselves – Theus most likely overachieved with a group of players with 30 to 35 win talent. An impressive achievement, considering the injuries, the trade, and a challenging group of personalities in the locker room. So he does have some coaching chops, that much is clear. There are some warts as well, namely his Everest-sized ego, and his complete inability to accept blame and his preference to use the media as a communication tool with his players and owners.

I still like him as the coach of this team, but he needs a shot of self-awareness and perhaps a little bit of reigning in by upper management. Nothing that makes him a snakeoil salesman, in my book – but next year will be huge in proving whether Theus can avoid self-immolation and continue to improve the product on the floor.

"Boo Lakers! Boo Kobe! Go Kings! Go Giants! Boo Dodgers!" - my 5 year-old daughter - 4/15/08

by otis29 on Apr 21, 2008 2:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   1 recs

spot on

“Theus most likely overachieved with a group of players with 30 to 35 win talent.”

Of course, he did, Otis. And there is no serious observer or analyst of the NBA that thinks differently. I keep hearing and reading all this nonsense about how the “young guys” should have played more blah, blah, blah. His handling of Hawees was just about perfect. Spencer came in without a training camp; he is 19 years old, experiencing his first NBA season. He got some big minutes at the end of the season because of Brad’s injury and performed admirably; but, despite being a huge Spencer fan, I was under no illusion that he needed or deserved to play more than 15 or 20 minutes a game this year. His defense is terrible, and he offensive game still evolving. Three years from now, Spencer will be a monster. Working with him incrementally is better for Spencer and the Kings.

Now, who else should have played more? Douby? Puh-lease. He was terrible the entire season. The guy can’t dribble with his head up; doesn’t see the floor; has average handles – at best; he can’t guard the 1; is only adequate guarding the 2. He can catch and shoot. That’s it. And he didn’t even do that niche well at the beginning of the season. Douby isn’t the future of any NBA team. So, who else? Martin and Garcia both played big minutes. Seriously, who else should have been getting big minutes that did not? Maybe you could argue Salmons. Maybe…. But John was a completely different player off the bench. Compare the numbers. There is no excuse for the decrease in productivity simply because you enter the game in the middle of the first quarter rather than the beginning.

Theus did a much better job than most expected. And he did what a coach is paid to do: Win as many games as possible with the talent available. He’s earned an opportunity to coach this team in the future.

This post-season nonsense regarding Artest and Martin is totally irrelevant to the job he did this year. If you want to argue with Marty McNeil that the guy needs to embrace more Thoreauian tactics vis-a-vis the media then fine. I’m with you. Less is more, Reggie. Shut the f*ck up. But, all this frothing at the mouth about Amickgate is silly and a complete waste of time.

by Kusian on Apr 22, 2008 11:44 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Seems like I just copied my fan post from your comment doh!

Maybe not, but Amickgate is silly. (I do know somebody on Yahoo who blames Kevin for going to Sam with his story, and saying that’s the real problem. I don’t really understand that point of view, given that Kevin hasn’t said anything publicly since, and Reggie has been around the media almost exclusively since. But hey, whatever works.)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Apr 22, 2008 6:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Hmmm Otis the wise sage always getting that 1 up on folks
I still like him as the coach of this team, but he needs a shot of self-awareness and perhaps a little bit of reigning in by upper management. Nothing that makes him a snakeoil salesman, in my book – but next year will be huge in proving whether Theus can avoid self-immolation and continue to improve the product on the floor.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Apr 22, 2008 1:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Ummm

With otis, with Kusian, with pookey. I guess that about covers it.

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by section214 on Apr 22, 2008 3:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Kingspin, I think you misunderstood us

Nowhere do I see us saying Reg has a free pass next year. This year was a gimmie. The only person who could have underperformed my expectations for this year is Isiah Thomas. And even then I’d still get a kick out of the ensuing Truck Party scandal.

Everything good Reggie did this year is contingent upon improvement next season. I’ll be disappointed if we don’t have a .500 team next year.

Besides that, we never said the sexy one had no flaws. I referenced his childish use of the media in the first freaking post. And frankly, that “suave and swagger” helped this team hang with the teams that are blowing our minds in the playoffs right now.

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on Apr 21, 2008 5:35 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

No vote,

yet. I’m truly undecided and torn.

He almost had me, then came his off-season comments. Those don’t define his season of coaching, but they do concern me.

Obviously, I don’t see the season the same way as Coach Theus does…but I don’t get paid to coach in the NBA and he does.

I’m witholding my vote, for now.

God bless you, Corliss. You always played as though you knew how expensive my tickets were. -section214

by KK on Apr 21, 2008 9:42 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Let me attempt to help you make your decision

Where could this team be if they still had Rick Adelman? Better, worse, the same?

Where could this team if they still had Eric Musselman? Better, worse, the same?

Other than Reggie’s poor choice of using the media to convey Billy Graham style basketball messages, what flaws has Reggie really shown that aren’t, at the very least, a bi-product of what’s happening with the Maloofs, Petrie and upper management?

I do know that I don’t know what Rick could have done with a splintering franchise in the ownership ranks. {I don’t know if it’s clear, but trading Artest was mandatory for this team, and Petrie, and the Maloof’s, both failed to pass that exam. Now, partly, Reggie got himself caught in a mess that seemed somewhat intended to be a Phil Jackson-esque type of statement, and partly just to get his point across. If you read Sam’s column it was a somewhat minor point until Kevin took offense to it. (For the record Sam DOES have that right to ask Kevin Martin what he thinks. We’ve already covered the PJ angle extensively, but Reggie needs to figure out the media stuff still. I do know that the Maloof’s love stuff like that as it keeps the Kings being talked about for days while the team just ended another sub 500 campaign. That’s all they truly care about I think}

That being said Rick wouldn’t have won if Thomas and Reef weren’t around either. Rahim provided a valuable low post presence when healthy, and had he continued to stay healthy it remains to be seen what might have come of that. However, Rick and the Maloof’s weren’t compatible any longer. That is what it is. Rick’s moved on, and so should we.

Musselman is a dead argument, and fairly so, but how would have keeping him made this team better?

I did see written by someone here that Petrie wanted Brian Shaw. If that’s the case, just as the assumption, that comes with saying the Maloof’s wanted Theus, what is the truth? How can we know the truth?

I think Reggie did do a fairly commendable job over the course of the season. As otis said, there are good parts and bad parts to his coaching and his resume here. The only real question is what happens if Ron Artest isn’t here? Does Reggie change any part of his coaching style? I do think another factor here is Reggie only has 2 guaranteed years on his deal, and has an ownership group dis-satisfied largely with a sub-par season a year ago. It’s understandable why Reggie felt pressure. It’s a pressure filled job after all.

I think Reggie made more than a few mis-steps, but given the context of it’s leadership up top, and it’s player compisition at ground level, was there any real killer subtle moves THAT could have been made?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Apr 22, 2008 1:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs


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