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Napear's Wiki: Why "Peaches" gets nixed.

So, like, when I got here to Sactown Royalty, I got a less than welcome reception.  My first entry was a diary (back when these were called that) of the loosest sort; a stream of consciousness from the arena after a harrowing night when we hosted the Golden State Warriors and approximately half an Arco's worth of obnoxious, running-heavy GSW worth of fans.

Somone soon made the linkage to my persona here to that over at Wikipedia.  I had, in fact, discovered StR trying to track down whoever was douching up Grant's wiki page with annoying tenacity.  Any joke is funny once and while some jokes do indeed get funnier the more you hear them, I wasn't really seeing the point of the ongoing joke.

 

Star-divide

I take an interest in keeping up Grant's page in particular as these past few years I have been a pretty loyal fan of both the Kings and of NBA basketball.  As *announcers* go, Grant is really not all that bad.  Much of the animosity towards him I think comes from his style during his call in show.  Its like two different Grants almost, and you can find any measure in cheese in either one        .

This being said, I think Grant does indeed deserve an article.  Someone had in a standing request for an article on Jim Kozimor which I thought was kind of cool 'cause here was someone I knew a little about, could do some easy research and chip one of the first notches in my Wikipedia belt: a new article. I noticed Grant didn't have a page either and it didn't seem fair that he was the only brodcaster except maybe Angela Tsai not to have a page.

Anyway, somewhere along the way I discovered that there are a lot of damned rules on creating biographical pages, especially when the person is living and liable to have lawyers on active duty to uphold their reputations.

I generall find Wikipedia a worthwhile project despite this.  Certainly its the sort of thing I wish I'd had when I was younger and could have absorbed a lot more.  Sadly, its strength -- user participation -- means that it is a resource that is out in the open commons.  If someone wants to spraypaint "GRANTS TESTTTTICLES RESEMBLE LARGE STONE FRUIT" on the front of a page, it reduces everything attached to it.

Is that the sort of worthwhile resource I want my children to use?  No.  So when I see trash, I pick it up.

Part two is the less than warm reception I received when I started here.  I had one user dogging me around the site asking if I was a parody account and then asking more directly in a thread  whether I was -- their words -- the "nazi" involved with cleanup.  A janitor nazi.

To me, this was pretty offensive:  The Nazi's killed a lot of jews, gypsies, dissenters, artists, poets, basketball players, homosexuals, guys who didn't bathe enough, not to mention Anne Frank (reason enough).  There are people who still think nazism is great; this town has its own "red and white" group to this day.  So, anyways, fighting words, especially when I was trying to keep up the common resource.

Someone else has noticed the melee there and shut things down for a while -- good for him for doing so.  It allows me time to share my peace on the matter.

Grant's page should always be as fair, impartial and libel-free as possible.  For living people, the standard is pretty high -- any claim must be documentable.  I'd hoped that Ziller's interview with him had been a little less combative and I'd love to find someone in print (old Marty Mac maybe?) who came out and directly pointed out Grant's shortcomings on the radio or on TV.  Commentary in his balls is not germaine (and why are you guys anti-testicle, anyways?) 

Blog commentary doesn't have enough weight typically but Ziller's interview qualified as original research and therefore was citeable if it had contained more meat. I think TZ should get some documentation on this Napes-Koz feud.  Up and at 'er.  I greatly enjoy's Tom's contributions to our developing knowledge -- I've seen some amazing stuff over the past few months and will be interested to see how things develop as the season approaches.

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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Don't really have an opinion on the Wiki

I haven’t even been to that particular page. But I generally agree with you, defacing someone’s site isn’t my cup of tea. If I had to make an exception for one asshat though, it would be Grant. :)

"Boo Lakers! Boo Kobe! Go Kings! Go Giants! Boo Dodgers!" - my 5 year-old daughter - 4/15/08

by otis29 on May 1, 2008 4:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wikiopinion

Hey, for the record, the Peaches thing was just there and we found it. Then thought it was hilarious and started using it. We assume it has to be real because he gets easily agitated when it’s brought up to him. Trust me, I know. Once it entered our little meta-universe it became something to note. Wikipedia begot truthiness. Embrace it.

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on May 1, 2008 8:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's funny

because Grant hates it. Had he been ambivalent it would have been no fun at all. Napear breathed more life into it than we ever could have hoped.

Hail Peaches!

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on May 1, 2008 9:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well Said

I wonder if my friend Grant ever got to see his Wikipedia article. Some of the really funny yet subtle “peaches” references remained in the article for quite a long period of time.

Truthiness is right. We at Sactown royalty, as the masses, deem Grant as “Peaches”, it becomes publicly agreed upon fact.

by Bitey on May 1, 2008 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's funny for so many reasons more than just that.

It’s funny because some people think Grant likes them so much because they edit it out of his wikipedia entry. I’m guessing it’s weekend bbqs with the Napears from here on out!

It’s funny because the people editing his wikipedia to remove the reference aren’t running around the ARCO Arena bathrooms with a handful of borax and scrubbing the stall walls.

It’s funny because people feel the need to complain about how they’re received on the internet in general, often to just that group of people who already think that person needs therapy to get over themselves.

It’s funny because it’s true.

It’s funny because it’s peaches.

Seriously, it’s funny because it’s peaches.

It’s funny because I think it’s funny.

It’s funny because many others think it’s funny.

by ChrisCEIT on May 2, 2008 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reality check:

As the primary checker and person who “edits out” over there, allow me to de-delude you: I’ve got no interest in Grant and feel he’s the worst of the broadcasting lot save for perhaps “Coach T” whom the organization keeps to a blessedly minor presence. I ain’t his buddy and wouldn’t cross the street to keep his house from burning.

“Funny because it’s true”? Nobody calls him “peaches” except for folks here and on their related blogs - I’m still waiting for Spence to sit down for his after-interview and bust that out. As far as this viral concept you think you’re needling, it pretty well begins and ends here. If you want to make “peaches” popular, go do so - right now you are choosing the wrong tools.

by ogre lawless on May 5, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

poor guy.

The more you whine about it, the funnier it gets. I’d like to suggest you forget about my own delusions though – you seem to have enough of your own to occupy yourself. I’m really not sure you care that much though.

Keep up the good work, sir! You’re an asset to mankind.

by ChrisCEIT on May 5, 2008 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Allright, junior

Back to your games, then.

by ogre lawless on May 6, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is my game, sir.

I’m amazed that you’re still here responding to my slop. And others.

by ChrisCEIT on May 8, 2008 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nazi's

And ogre, though I did not make the reference I am sorry if you were offended by the nazi talk. As one who had relatives survive (and not survive) the death camps, I understand where you are coming from. I think the word “nazi” took on a different meaning for millions of people the day the Seinfeld “soup nazi” episode aired. I’ve even used pseudo references myself since then, though it’s probably not right and at least some of my relatives would not approve.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on May 1, 2008 9:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You know

I killed 50 nazzys and a whole mess of Tojos before the shot off my shins.

/American hero Cotton Hill

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on May 1, 2008 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on Many levels

Although I understand the sentiment about tagging wiki pages, I don’t really care if they do. It gets worked out in the long run, and some rightfully deserving people might learn some humility in the mean time (peaches). Although the wiki tagging of Koz was strangely undeserved. My mom has met both, still doesn’t know who is who, but mentioned one was a total a-hole (hmmm).

However, I do share your perspective on the relative hostility, pretentiousness, and lack of compassion that many members have demonstrated. And I don’t find their behavior to be offensive because of references to Nazis (although I understand why some might), or sensitive socially awkward subjects. I myself, am prone to push these kind of boundaries, and often value crude humor more than sensitivity. What I do find offensive and irritating is the lack of attempted respect for peoples ideas (however wrong they might be) and how nonconstructive their responses to such ideas are.

I have kept some heinously sinister strokes of the keyboard in check for some time. I have been quite close to writing a full fanpost/diary about the topic before, and I am glad you had the balls to do so ogre lawless.

The simple point is, that I have learned the hard way on how to blog more appropriately. It was hard not only because of the negative reaction received from this community, but because of the total and complete lack of understanding that some people are new to blogs. It wasn’t that I was butt-hurt because people didn’t fawn over my diary, it was because people told me that they didn’t like what I had to say (a right of yours), and then scoffed in such a manner that was meant to put me down, just as much as it was to hold them up.

Several esteemed members of this community have been given a free pass because they have a high basketball IQ, and have been active members for some time. However even esteemed members such as Pookey, who has been the most censored member of StR, have only been cautioned based on his occasional outburst or verbal assault on individual members. What I have seen is a tolerance for trolling-like commentary which add little to the overall sense of community. Some 45 games or so back I actively participated in a game thread and watched as you TROLLED. You left inflammatory remarks refuting or challenging members in nearly every response you wrote. In fact, I’m not even sure if you wrote an orignal post at all, the only remarks I remember were in response to another’s. In one such response iashwash (I think) asked you “why do you have to be such an asshole”. If I was to make a main point to pookey, it is that you frequently mention how far you’ve come in terms of writing on this site. Given that, you still have lots of room for improvement when it comes to diplomatically phrasing your point. I have read you state many times before that you are an asshole. While you may believe that this a virtue or just your personality, I believe it is an excuse. An excuse to make yourself feel better by taking apart others. Your not the only example Pookey, but the easiest.

My biggest gripe isn’t about Pookey as much as it is about the blind hierarchical support longterm members get even when they are wrong. And when I say wrong, I don’t mean by the quality of their information, but rather their lack of sense in community responsibility to encourage better blogging.

AK47, SN13, B52, and K9. One guns, Another runs, He fits, while it licks.

by CAB on May 1, 2008 10:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You can say anything you want about me because it doesn't hurt, and it often can help

Tell me specificially what you’re talking about that you feel I do, and I will look at it honestly. Otherwise, if you choose to ignore this, or loosely specify something I don’t remember doing to be quite honest, then it’s hard for me to take any stock in your claims. That being said the last time I posted constantly in a game thread was February. I haven’t watched a game since the Hawks game in Atlanta.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on May 2, 2008 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To clarify--I haven't watched the Kings since they strolled into ATL

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on May 2, 2008 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to know

I won’t be trying to find the exact game thread, it was like 2-3 months ago. And really its not important enough for me to follow up on. So you don’t have to take stock in my claim. But if it can help, and I see what I claim again, I won’t be afraid to call you out on it.

AK47, SN13, B52, and K9. One guns, Another runs, He fits, while it licks.

by CAB on May 2, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ron Artest licks dog's piss

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on May 3, 2008 1:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oooh!

Was this what you claim!? Look! It’s pookey being a big meanie head!

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on May 3, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually thought that was very funny (no mocking involved)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on May 6, 2008 1:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

first off

Why am I not allowed to call pookey an asshole? And, considering I never did (I remember telling him to smoke a doobie, thereby implying STFU), I generally gave pookey a free pass on whatever he wanted to say because whenever he’s criticized me, it’s usually helped to improve my writing and/or thinking… so you couldn’t be any more incorrect in your assesment that there is a “lack of sense in community responsibility to encourage better blogging.”

There isn’t “blind hierarchical support ” for longterm members; there’s respect for people who’ve been thinking about this shit longer than you, so you try to pay attention. There’s also very degenrative humor, which I fucking love about the internet, cuz that means I can read intelligient shit while I’m splayed on my couch, laptop on my stomach, scratching my testicles.

This is a sports blog; it’s all about opinion. However, I do agree with your point about keeping wikipedia free and clear, I’m lost as to where the rest of your anger is coming from, though I’m hoping it’s overreaction from whoever that asshole was calling you a Nazi (which is pretty dumb, agreed). There’s been problems before where a reader would bring up a decent point, but would throw in some bs opinion that’d piss everybody off, and the original point gets lost cuz he’d get defensive, then everyone gets angry and offensive, and nothing productive happens.

So, I pledge a truce – we don’t harass the wikipedia page, but we keeps calling him Peaches. As for all the ridiculous pussy-calling and general anti-testaclism, we’ll all chalk it up to booze and forget about it.

Oh yeah, and pookey is an asshole. And Muff gets bikini waxes cuz he’s a vegas showgirl. And Kfan is not actually in Korea, he just uses that to pick up chicks. Who else commented on this page… ogre is a dweeb who got rejected by geeksquad so he’s not even smart enough to be a nerd, hoops managed his high school jv team (handwash those jockstraps) but still tells people he played varsity, and Carl… well, what kind of name is Carl? Your name isn’t even spelled right, dude. Jesus, get a real name, something gangsta… like iashwash. Now that’s a fucking name. and section, get some real seats… 214? really? bullshit. I’ve never even been to ARCO, and I’ve had better seats.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on May 14, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He doesn't like my anti Ron Artest sentiment

So he says anything I say critical of someone (like writing a sentence with passable grammar and punctuation for instance) is being an asshole. Which I’m glad. Because trolls like CAB are not the type I prefer to converse with anyway. (For the record, IMO, Iashwash is totally gangsta, If you’re a jewish putz.)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on May 14, 2008 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m lost as to where the rest of your anger is coming from, though I’m hoping it’s overreaction from whoever that asshole was calling you a Nazi (which is pretty dumb, agreed).

I guess I am the asshole since I’m the one who called him a wiki nazi. Note: I never called him a Nazi (circa 1925-2008 German thug who harrassed/murdered millions of people because of their religion/ethnicity/sexual preferences).

I thought that “wiki nazi” was a commonly understood reference to those uptight internet wiki warriors who act as the “thought police” of the internet. My bad.

However, I specifically exclude ogre lawless from that apology since I have seen his (now cleaned up) editing comments regarding StR posters on that wikipedia site.

There are so many half truths and outright lies in the original post but I can’t be bothered to respond to them other than to say this: Poor, poor OL, he crapped all over StR and then he joined and got a half hearted welcome. Really, y’all should read his first diary, unless he has the same editing power on StR that he does on wiki (which means it has already disappeared). Poor poor OL. He’s such a victim and doesn’t understand why. BWAHAHHHH. I call bullshit.

Someone else has noticed the melee there and shut things down for a while—good for him for doing so. It allows me time to share my peace on the matter.

Again, bullshit. Nobody noticed it until you whined about it and Paul August took up your cause.
Quote from Paul August’s comment area from the OL;

Grant Napear Protection
Thanks for the protect on Grant Napear. That poor page was sitting right at the threshold where I thought it might be worth going through Process to get it protected, but the typical 3-days wasn’t likely to do much to stem the long-term bleeding. Thanks again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ogre lawless (talk • contribs) 23:32, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

May I add that I absolutely love the ogre lawless callouts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ogre_lawless). Those callouts are the last remnants of the OL personality that accompanied each wiki edit you imposed while mocking StR readers with your comments on each edit .

Go on, delete your boastful, hateful, and inane “callouts” before the StR readers can find them.

MEH. My first and last comment on this “fanpost’ of yours.

Somebody needs to kill this thread, OL has already been given more attention than is healthy for him.

My apologies for this post, it’s truly not in the spirit of the StR posting community and I hope that I’ll never post another one like it.

God bless you, Corliss. You always played as though you knew how expensive my tickets were. -section214

by KK on May 15, 2008 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

I can’t remember how long I’ve been here since SBNation says we all joined a couple weeks ago. But I never really noticed anybody talking down to me with some sense of entitlement. I mean I’m sure it happens, anybody who’s spent more than a month frequenting any message board can tell you it happens, it’s the freaking internet for f*ck’s sake. I guess what I’m trying to say it, grow some thicker skin and quit being a pussy. I’m not saying this to make myself feel better or to take you apart, it’s just how I feel. I like most of you guys on here but if any of you were to start randomly bashing me in game threads like this guy’s saying, I’d take it as seriously as I take Kenny Thomas. Which is to say not at all.

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on May 2, 2008 7:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh...

That was supposed to be in response to CAB, but yeah, you probably figured that out.

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on May 2, 2008 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I enjoyed this the most...

for its personal revelation, that some things will never be interpreted properly. I apologize for naively considering the way I approach other individuals politely, and hoping a mixed demographic of Kings fans to all do so on the same level, my bad.

You are a perfect example of my point Muff,

Synopsis of my post: People should be more diplomatic in how the write to others.
Synopsis of Muff: “quit being a pussy”

I don’t find it difficult being diplomatic or respectful. And I don’t it take personal when others aren’t. Its just agitating. Like I said, different people, different walks of life and different standards of internet etiquette. So I guess I couldn’t really expect someone like Muff to care or understand. Glad to know where many of you stand though. And now I figure, if you can’t beat them….(well you know).

So on that note, Muff, you are fat and ugly. Great sense of humor though.

AK47, SN13, B52, and K9. One guns, Another runs, He fits, while it licks.

by CAB on May 2, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not even close to being the same thing

Muff says:

it’s the freaking internet for f*ck’s sake. I guess what I’m trying to say it, grow some thicker skin and quit being a pussy.

You say:

Muff, you are fat and ugly.

way out of line.

I don’t agree with Muff’s phrasing, but an attack on the way someone is acting and an attack on someone’s appearance are in no way equitable.

Section 214 is one lucky schmoe

by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh man, this is great

Yeah, my phrasing could have been better. But in my defense, I’d been awake for a grant total of 15 minutes when I made that post. I tend to be short and to the point when I’m tired. I blame my phone’s lack of full java support. That and the fact that I’m kind of a dick.

Now that I’m “end of a long work day” tired instead of “Oh good God why can’t it be tomorrow” tired, allow me to make my point more eloquently.

(scans down and sees that otis, section, and hoops already did)

Oh, then yeah, what they said.

Look man, we’re mostly a collection of guys here to discuss sports. We’re going to do some ball busting. It’s just what we do. I’m sorry if my crassness offended you, but at least it had a point. Lumping it in with random flaming like calling me a fat (guilty as charged) and ugly (hopefully up for debate, although having my avatar being my face next to Kayte Christiansen’s probably doesn’t help) is insulting to hilariously inappropriate posts everywhere.

Oh, and grow some balls.

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on May 2, 2008 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you talkin to me?

Section 214 is one lucky schmoe

by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2008 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha, no way

I’m sorry, I thought I was obviously referring to CAB. Sorry about that, replied to the wrong comment and realized it after it was too late. SBN 2.0 doesn’t have edit options? Lame.

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on May 2, 2008 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was 95% sure you were refering to CAB

but you started off talking about phrasing, which was me. So figured a little De Niro would be funny, to clear it up.

Section 214 is one lucky schmoe

by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2008 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we're talking DeNiro

I should probably switch to my blog name The Duke then.

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on May 2, 2008 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm

I apologize for the late response, I’ve been without internet for over a week. That being said, even if they are not close, (which they aren’t, I did that on purpose) my point is that calling someone a pussy is not equitable and contributes nothing to the constructive nature of this blog (which is what I wanted to promote initially).
Instead, I get some half assed, poorly thought out macho response from some tool who had just finished with his wake n’ bake session.

And as far as your own inability to capture some of the main points in my post Kfan. You might want to reread the first sentence of the fifth and sixth paragraphs of my original post. I’m glad that your capable of defining when something is out of line because it represents a personal attack that preys on an individuals possible insecurities. But what about something that goes beyond an attack on an individual, and is offensive to a whole group of people? I’m sure you know whats worse. And if women such as Rhonda Nunes has already voiced her displeasure over the demeaning nature of calling someone a pussy, then you’d think someone with the mindset of posting “equitably” such as yourself, would then share some sense of “equitable” contrition on the part of other members. Instead,

I don’t agree with Muff’s phrasing

Kfan, you certainly have the diplomatic approach down. Unfortunately your approach is not unbiased. If Muff perfectly proved my first point regarding a lack of thought and respect in counter-posts, then you near perfectly proved my second point regarding the exceptions people make for what are obviously offensive statements (not to me), but to others.

AK47, SN13, B52, and K9. One guns, Another runs, He fits, while it licks.

by CAB on May 12, 2008 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, we're still talking about this?

Yeah, usually when a topic goes a week without a reply, that means we’s done. But if it’d make you feel better, would you like me to change it from pussy to douchebag? If I’m perfectly proving your first point you’re perfectly proving my entire point. Which since you can’t see past the glaring vulgarity of it, I’ll just spell it out. DON’T TAKE WHAT WE SAY SERIOUSLY, UP TO AND INCLUDING ME CALLING YOU A PUSSY. Because really, that was the entire freaking point. Such thin skin, I haven’t seen such thin skin since….Jesus Christ monkeyballs! CAB = PEACHES!

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on May 12, 2008 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aparently

you were too preoccupied packing your next bowl and face to have read the part about me not having internet for a week. I don’t take you seriously. Who would take someone seriously that equates respect to being a pussy? Seriously though, your macho-centric perspective, combined with a compete indifference to respect, is more or less the definition of a douche bag. Thats douche bag 101. You wouldn’t realize the irony of you calling someone else a douche bag, because your an idiot.

AK47, SN13, B52, and K9. One guns, Another runs, He fits, while it licks.

by CAB on May 13, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really hope that was meant to be ironic.

I love how my affinity for the hippie lettuce seems to automatically discredit my opinion.

But since I’m 100% sober right now, let’s assess the situation. Someone comes on and tells us they’re the person who’s been deleting the Peaches references from Grant’s Wiki because we’re apparently not important enough to have our meta joke be referenced on the paragon of accuracy that is Wikipedia. We call said person a whiner and I guess somewhere along the line called him a Janitornazi or something. (which as a descendant of German immigrants who fled the Third Reich as teenager, and as a Janitor myself, is something I should be most offended by, but I happen to have a sense of humor) All in all it seemed like a fairly measure response. Done deal, right?

No, instead of picking up on the actual point of ogre’s post (you know, the part about Peaches and Wikipedia), you instead write a 85 paragraph diatribe basically saying “Pookey was mean to me. And you guys are mean to newbies.” (Which is the actual synopsis of your post, not “we need to be more diplomatic”, this is a blog, not the freaking United Nations)

I responded, using what I even later admitted wasn’t probably the best language, by calling you a pussy. Was it wrong? Yes, because it took away from the point of my post. I could have written a long diatribe about “we’re really just nice guys, don’t take us too seriously”, but instead I just decided to call you a pussy. Why? Because it was really easy to do, and it’s how I really felt/feel. Plus, considering what your post was about, I thought it’d be funny because of that whole irony thing. I guess that part didn’t get across too….well, really to just you.

The point being? I replied to the point of your actual post. You in turn replied by assailing my intelligence, smoking habits, and looks, neither of which were really relevant to the discussion we were having. And I’m the one doing the disrespecting here?

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on May 13, 2008 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Muff

You’re a gay disgusting toad sniffing bonghead. What does anything you say matter? How dare you say anything about anyone at any time for any reason? How dare you make a mistake? How dare you have an opinion, in a forum that openly accept’s such, and then continue to use them when criticized? I mean what are you? (Besides being a gay disgusting toad sniffing bonghead of course.)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on May 14, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhh! My feelings!

How dare you attack me so blindly, you guys are..are…fat and ugly! Which is extremely rare for the internet!

This post was made while under the influence of Marijuana. Therefore, according to CAB, it doesn’t count.

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on May 14, 2008 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't know you knew me so well Muff

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on May 14, 2008 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just because

I didn’t respond to a point doesn’t mean I didn’t “capture” it. It could mean that I agree, or it could mean that I didn’t want to get involved in that part of the discussion.

My post addressed the point that I wanted to address, and that is all. I didn’t say anything to Muff about saying you were acting like a pussy, because I didn’t find that offensive(I personally wouldn’t have said it, but if someone said it to me, I think I’d laugh it off). If someone else did, find it offensive, I’d expect them to say so. Had nothing to do with who has been here longer. If that proves your second point, then whatever.

Section 214 is one lucky schmoe

by Kfan in Korea on May 13, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Need not point out the obvious

But yes, you addressed what you wanted to address. Which appeared to include, crossing lines, and having “equity” or value in ones statements. If your drawing lines Kfan along providing equity in your statements, then “pussy” would certainly not be of value. Regardless of whether or not its offensive. If your interested in moderating then have a consistent standard.
Personally, I don’t find that word offensive, but others have already said it is offensive to them. Apply a little common sense and you shouldn’t need someone to chirp up and explain to you why it is.

AK47, SN13, B52, and K9. One guns, Another runs, He fits, while it licks.

by CAB on May 13, 2008 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want to have sex with a panda.

Just thought I’d throw in my two cents on this very intellectual conversation.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on May 14, 2008 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That may

be offensive to the Chinese

Section 214 is one lucky schmoe

by Kfan in Korea on May 14, 2008 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not my Ling Ling!

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on May 14, 2008 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on May 14, 2008 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Always room for improvement -

But I would put the good information/flammable posts ratio here at about 50/1. Compared to many other blogs I would rate our overall level of conversation here very high. I urge anyone to read any thread on FoxSports or the Sacramento Bee and contrast and compare them to here.

No doubt, there are times where our passion for the Kings can get the better of us (guilty). There are times where our attempts at humor can be insensitive to others (boy, am I guilty). But I have to say that I am extremely proud to be a participating member at StR, and as a Kings fan I thank my lucky stars that this site exists as the truest and most consistent source of Sacramento Kings news and entertainment.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on May 2, 2008 7:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Great Point

Great Point Section…

After being an “everyday” reader of the SacBee and San Diego Tribune, I must agree with you that the thread’s on major newspaper, etc publications are plenty more vile and misinformed than those here on STR’s.

Along with that, I gotta say I agree with Muff209 as well. Considering that many of the things said on here are in fact foul, no member of STR should take it too seriously. If that is in fact the case, maybe internet sites devoted to die-hard fans isn’t the appropriate place for you! I, for one, have gottan into arguments on here (namely with Pookey and LeagueAddict among others), but I dont consider those disagreements any different than those I have (as I’m sure everyone here does) with friends on the couch or aquantances in a barbershop.

Another reason why there many dissagreements on here is without question the Kings number of “polorizing” figures over the years. Hell, Artest, Bibby and Webber (among others) aernt exactly the unifying types…..But thats another issue

by Hoops916 on May 2, 2008 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree with you both

I hit quite a few boards daily, and this is as civil as any. When it strays from that occasionally, I’m not sure it’s such a bad thing – everybody needs to blow off steam every once in a while. And when it strays from just heated argument into things more personal, Mr. Ziller shows up to flex his muscles.

Hoops, I was thinking the same thing about disagreements with friends or co-workers. My friends are made up primarily of very knowledgable, very passionate sports fans. Unfortunately, that includes quite a few suckass Dodger fans. So we’ve been known to have very heated arguments. Similarly, I’ve had a few mixups here, most notably with pookeyguru last year which resulted in us both getting a trip to Principal Ziller’s office. To say the least, pookey and I could barely stand discussing ANYTHING Kings related for a while. But over time, I got to understand his personality and writing style a bit better, and got over my personality differences to see that the guy is quite frankly as intelligent about the NBA as anyone I’ve encountered on any message board. Doesn’t mean I agree with everything he says, but I accept the fact that it’s not just a half-assed opinion he’s handing out on the spur of the moment. Well, unless he’s really hammered. :)

So I guess it’s a long-winded way of saying that time tends to heal all on this board. Newbies may have to suffer here initially, especially if they come strong out of the gate – but eventually they are morphed into the community and respected for what they bring to the table.

Yes, even coolcat applies here. :)

"Boo Lakers! Boo Kobe! Go Kings! Go Giants! Boo Dodgers!" - my 5 year-old daughter - 4/15/08

by otis29 on May 2, 2008 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with everything except
Hell, Artest, Bibby and Webber (among others) aernt exactly the unifying types

I think we can all agree that Hell was not a good pick. ;p

Section 214 is one lucky schmoe

by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha True....

But Jay Bilas said he had an amazing upside to him!

by Hoops916 on May 2, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was Hot!

OK, I’m done. I’ll be here all week!

Section 214 is one lucky schmoe

by Kfan in Korea on May 2, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed --
But I would put the good information/flammable posts ratio here at about 50/1. Compared to many other blogs I would rate our overall level of conversation here very high. I urge anyone to read any thread on FoxSports or the Sacramento Bee and contrast and compare them to here.

Agreed—wish it were at times moreso throughout.

by ogre lawless on May 5, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Back on topic

Back on topic – you don’t get to choose your nickname. (Ask Muff.) Your nickname is given to you by people you don’t like and/or your friends, who are often the same people. What I’m saying is – Peaches is Peaches nickname. He doesn’t get a say in it. We gave it to him and now he has to live with it. Therefore, editing it out of his Wikipedia article doesn’t take it away. Long live Peaches!

by Carl on May 13, 2008 10:31 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I could have sworn this was supposed to be about why Peaches needs to be on Grant’s wiki. Not whether or not we’re big meanie heads.

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on May 13, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good God!

I feel sorry for section214, how the hell does TZ keep this kindergarten in check?

For the record, I did laugh at most of the preceding posts…they were just unexpected at StR…also extremely boring if they continue along the same line. I plead guilty to a worthless post or two of my own in there.

God bless you, Corliss. You always played as though you knew how expensive my tickets were. -section214

by KK on May 15, 2008 11:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I left this intact -

I will wipe down the chalkboard, clean the erasers, straighten the desks and turn out the lights. But I’ll leave any discipline to TZ.

Note – While I am making a reference to TZ and his ability to dispense discipline, this does not make him a discipline nazi. Of course, it does not not make him a discipline nazi, either.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on May 16, 2008 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will wipe down the chalkboard, clean the erasers, straighten the desks and turn out the lights.

Teacher’s pet.

TickTickTickTickTickTick

by LeaguePassAddict on May 16, 2008 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No-

Just an underpaid substitute with spitwads hanging off the back of his head.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on May 16, 2008 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Mr. 14

Mr. Z always let’s us have spit-ball fights on Friday afternoons.

Section 214 is one lucky schmoe

by Kfan in Korea on May 16, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah!

and school gets out early too!

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on May 16, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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