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TZ Minus 1 - Sam Gets (Some) Answers From GP!

Read this first.

If anyone can ever remember GP ever giving up that much information in one sitting, please let me know. Sure, there were the standard GP passages:

Amick: It's a different process for you. It's rebuilding and recrafting all over again. Are you enjoying that process?

Petrie: I have a great job. It's not without some of the, you know (pauses)...I have a great staff. I have a loyal staff. That, above all things, is why I love coming to work every day.

Put another way - Let's move on.

But there was also (especially by GP's standard) some very candid conversation:

Amick: Do you feel his (Ron Artest's) value around the league is lower than it should be as far as how people still look at him?

Petrie: To some extent, he is the proverbial dilemma wrapped in a mystery. But you have to respect things he can do on the court.

Put another way - I can't get what I perceive as his value in trade.

And -

Amick: Is his (Spencer Hawes) head where you want it to be in terms of motivation and drive?

Petrie: I think so. He's a bright young man who thinks he belongs. He's confident in his ability to do it. We all agree that (Hawes) getting stronger, physically stronger and just maturing is something that will help him. That and playing in regular rotation in a system where he has a chance to do things and that will facilitate his growth, too.

Put another way - We're going to give this lad some minutes next year and maybe even run some plays for him.

There is a lot of other great stuff - "Frisco" Garcia? - and some alarming stuff - Kenny Thomas can still be productive for us??? I was interested and encouraged to find out that assist/turnover ratio is as much of a concern to the KIngs as our rebounding woes, and that Petrie feels that a good assist/turnover ratio is the result of melding talent and style of play, while improved rebounding is more an issue of personnel.

The article is really worth two reads, as Petrie's sometimes cryptic style commands a second glance. Good stuff.

 

 

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“Being loquacious and being right aren’t necessarily always the same.” Reggie needs to put that up over his desk.

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend puts the slap down on Reggie

by SavageBeast on May 18, 2008 10:58 AM PDT   0 recs

Uhh, Petrie?

The only way K9(woof) will be productive for us is if he becomes the Assistant Ball Boy. Or if starts pouring the Gatorade and handing out towels.

by vfettke on May 18, 2008 11:29 AM PDT   0 recs

PLEASE buyout the bad contracts, Petrie.

“Q: One bad deal could mess up the whole outlook, right?
A: Right, or one bad extension or whatever. (The year) 2010 is certainly a year that we’re keeping our eye on, but knowing that something could always come up in the interim that could change all that”

Basically means –
“2010 is certainly a year that we’re keeping our eye on”
We’re going to take one more look at Thomas, and Reef.. If we decide one or both of them can, we’re going to wait until 2010 to expire their contract.

“something could always come up in the interim that could change all that…”
If they continue stinking up the place, we might try to buy out their contract(s).

by CloudyEyes on May 18, 2008 1:01 PM PDT   0 recs

can *be productive

by CloudyEyes on May 18, 2008 1:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Why?

I don’t see any reason to buyout Reef or K9 for that matter. We’re over the cap and dangerously close to the luxury tax, and the amount of a buyout counts towards the cap. So buyouts would cost us two roster spots that would need to be filled and likely wouldn’t save us any real money. I’d rather keep K9 as a 14th or 15th guy until his expiring contract is of some value, than buy him out saving maybe 2 million that would then need to be spent on some other fringe player. If Reef can play again he may have some value, if not maybe we get full cap relief via medical retirement.

Section 214 is one lucky schmoe

by Kfan in Korea on May 18, 2008 1:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

buyout is stupid

as far as I’m concerned (unless he gets hit with some crazy juice and settles for like 60%). We’ve all seen how useful big expiring contracts can be, so throwing that away without reaping the benefits is just stupid. Neither guy is a cancer on the team – in fact, they’re both really nice (right?). So, little money saved, little cap space saved, and possible trade asset lost…. hmm, seems like a hard decision to make.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on May 18, 2008 5:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Let me settle some things for yall

First off they won’t buy out Kenny or Reef unless they’re in danger of paying luxury tax (for whatever reason). Petrie won’t compromise his trade chips under any circumstance, and the likelihood of either being on the roster beyond this next season is unlikely.

Petrie’s comments were interesting regarding Reef for several reasons. He gave a specific timetable as to when Reef would come back, and it’s hard to say whether he took a veiled shot at Chris Webber, and how hard he worked in returning from microfracture surgery, in his statement. I do know that the belief will generally reside around the fact that if Reef won’t count against the cap by the end of the next season, the KIngs have no reason to buy out Kenny Thomas.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on May 18, 2008 6:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice Intetrview

Hopefully Shareef retires and Kenny gets bought out.

Man… the Kings need a good bounce.

In honor of Margie, I have a gold piggy bank with 333 pennies inside!

C’mon Margie!!!

I don’t think I’m going overboard when I say we need at least number 2. I don’t like the options at 3 with Lopez and the combo guards (Mayo, Gordon and Bayless)

BOOK IT!

by kingme18 on May 18, 2008 4:16 PM PDT   0 recs

word

Beasley or Rose. I’ll take one, please… extra sauce on side.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on May 18, 2008 5:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Eh...

Reef/Thomas/Miller all expire in the 09/10 seasons… I would expect you couldn’t get anything worthwhile out of Thomas until that season, and the best thing you could hope for was a back-up position somewhere that had a small salary+another expiring contract.

Of course Thomas could have a break-out season after eatting dirt for a year, the guy does still like basketball, so who knows. Not expecting anything great, but to go from starting PF to inactive list might have really been some solid motivation for him to step up his game.

Reef is kind of the same way. The man has more passion than Thomas, better Career Numbers, and he went from a top position down the totem pole so fast, if it weren’t enough to hurt him mentally he had back to back surgeries to really put the nails in the the coffin. I would look for him to be a solid back up PF to mikki next season, and maybe even attempt to fight for the starting position pending physical health. Though I’d still be satisfied with him becoming more of a corliss williamson part 2. Locker-room+maximum effort in minimum minutes.

I highly, highly doubt we’d trade Miller unless Shawes becomes as good or better than him, but even then… what could we get in return until 09/10 when his contract expires…

Every year becomes more interesting than the previous year in terms of speculation. I love this game, I love this team, and I can’t wait to get a glimpse at our next move and continue playing living room GM.

by dkons21 on May 18, 2008 5:23 PM PDT   0 recs

Of course I haven't paid much attention... but lets assume

we draft purely for position. What are we looking for?

I would say Back-up PG with our lottery pick. #42 Power Forward, #45 … uh Center?

by dkons21 on May 18, 2008 5:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

that was a long fuckin article!

But what do you mean “frisco???” some of the guys call him that and some say cisco. I called him frisco before I ever heard someone say cisco. I personally like cisco better though

when will the Kenny Thomas Reign of Terror end?!!??

by diehardkingsfan5 on May 18, 2008 6:32 PM PDT   0 recs

About Reef

Could Petrie’s timetable also be interpreted to mean “If he’s not able to play by the time camp starts he gets medical retirement”?

That takes him off THIS year, not next.

As far as K9 goes, probably the best thing we could do is give him very limited minutes, let him show the league that he might be able to be a decent role player, then trade him mid-season ala Shelden Williams.

TickTickTickTickTickTick

by LeaguePassAddict on May 18, 2008 7:58 PM PDT   0 recs

Random Thought

We need a “dirty work” guy. You know, a Reggie Evans, Eduardo Najera kind of guy. If Shelden Williams is not a bona fide starting power forward in this league, could he be that guy instead?

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by section214 on May 18, 2008 10:26 PM PDT   0 recs

mikki moore?

...or do you mean long-term?

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on May 19, 2008 12:28 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Moore

He takes a charge but he is not the physical, knock you on your butt type guy that I’m thinking of. I’m looking for Danny Fotston without the criminal intent, if you know what I mean. The enforcer off the bench.

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by section214 on May 19, 2008 7:31 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, that's about it

Yeah, I think Shelden is a Najera/Malik Rose kind of guy. I don’t think he has the athleticism to rebound like a Reggie Evans. He could be a Kurt Thomas or Brian Grant, but I kind of doubt it at this point.

by Carl on May 19, 2008 8:55 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

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