Donaghy says NBA fixed 2002 series
by BearsNecessity on Jun 10, 2008 3:41 PM PDT
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From CBS Sportsline:
Former referee Tim Donaghy had a few interesting things to say to the feds, the Daily News reported on its website Tuesday.
According to the Daily News, Donaghy told the feds two referees fixed the outcome of one NBA playoff series in 2002. Donaghy also claimed that officials were told not to eject star players in fear of hurting ticket sales.
The allegations came from a court document filed Tuesday by Donaghy's lawyer, the Daily News reported.
Donaghy, who pleaded guilty in August 2007 to charges of betting on games he officiated, claimed that he was told two officials were "company men" acting in the interest of the league to extend a 2002 playoff series to a seventh game.
Well, there was only one 7-game series in 2002, and we all remember what happened there.
In the letter submitted by Donaghy's attorney, the following "manipulation" is alleged:
"Referees A, F and G were officiating a playoff series between Teams 5 and 6 in May of 2002. It was the sixth game of a seven-game series, and a Team 5 victory that night would have ended the series. However, Tim learned from Referee A that Referees A and F wanted to extend the series to seven games. Tim knew referees A and F to be "company men," always acting in the interest of the NBA, and that night, it was in the NBA's interest to add another game to the series. Referees A and F heavily favored Team 6. Personal fouls [resulting in obviously injured players] were ignored even when they occurred in full view of the referees. Conversely, the referees called made-up fouls on Team 5 in order to give additional free throw opportunities for Team 6. Their foul-calling also led to the ejection of two Team 5 players. The referees' favoring of Team 6 led to that team's victory that night, and Team 6 came back from behind to win that series."
Although no teams are specifically named, it is not hard to deduce the game in question. The Lakers-Kings series was the only one that postseason that went seven games, and the officiating in Game 6 was so questionable that consumer advocate and former presidential candidate Ralph Nader called for a formal investigation.
The Lakers attempted 40 free throws to the Kings' 25 in that game, and Los Angeles made 21-of-27 from the line while Sacramento converted 7-of-9 in the fourth quarter alone.
In addition, a foul was called against Mike Bibby of the Kings after he was shoved and elbowed by Kobe Bryant, denying the Kings an opportunity to try for a tying basket. Also in that game, Kings centers Vlade Divac and Scot Pollard fouled out, and Kings coach Rick Adelman was highly critical of the officiating afterward.<!--(Game 6 of that series was officiated by referees Dick Bavetta and Bob Delaney, who are still employed by the NBA, and by ex-referee Ted Bernhardt.)-->
"My first thought [upon hearing Donaghy's allegation] was: I knew it," Pollard said Tuesday night. "I'm not going to say there was a conspiracy. I just think something wasn't right. It was unfair. We didn't have a chance to win that game."
What do you think of Donaghy's allegations? Do you think he's just trying to save his own skin and is just relying on public perception to save himself? Or do you really think these reports are credible?
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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Good looking out BearsNecessity
I just fanposted the same thing.
when will the Kenny Thomas Reign of Terror end?!!??
by diehardkingsfan5 on Jun 10, 2008 3:47 PM PDT reply actions
I was about to...
and got lazy. Figured I’d let y’all handle it for me.
The only sport dirtier than basketball is boxing, and this plus last year’s Suns/Spurs series adds another exclamation point to my futile screaming.
The wise man tells you Where you have fallen And where you yet may fall - Invaluable secrets! The world may hate him. But good men love him.
The logical side of my brain
Says that this is info coming from a scumbag (Donaghy, not you Bears) and should be treated accordingly. The other side of my brain remembers the absolute screwjob the Kings got in Game 6 against the Lakers and how much IT STILL FUCKING HURTS.
If this is in any way true, and these particular officials are still working (should be pretty easy to check), then the results of every close playoff series in the last 10 years are officially SUSPECT.
"Boo Lakers! Boo Kobe! Go Kings! Go Giants! Boo Dodgers!" - my 5 year-old daughter - 4/15/08
Delaney worked the questionalble game
the other night too, right?
Section 214 is one lucky schmoe
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 10, 2008 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
And when Donaghy claims that two of them were “NBA men” you know thats its Bavetta and Delaney.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jun 11, 2008 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I doubt it
How does this convicted felon know this? Who told him? Phil Jackson? Shaq? Rick Fox?
If Donaghy knows than do all NBA refs know? Steve Javie? Violet Palmer? Leon Wood? Are they all in on it?
I never say never, but this just doesn’t add up. This smells like a convict desperately trying to cut himself a deal.
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I was going to say that too
And if Donaghy had reffed the series, it would have to be something small that slips by most if not everyone’s attention. Game 6 didn’t slip by Ma Bell let alone the NBA.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Donaghy says one of the Refs told him...
...Delaney or Bernhardt? I watched that game with disinterest, as a Blazer fan, but was stunned by the calls, particularly in the 4th Quarter. I can’t stand Divac, as a Laker or a King or a Hornet, but he was jobbed that night.
Remember, before he was a convicted felon, he was a ref in the League. They are a pretty tight bunch.
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
by Honka Playboy on Jun 10, 2008 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
The Kings need redress!
How about a free number one draft pick?
At the very least
Somebody should ask Phil Jackson to compare and contrast the officiating in this game to the officiating the other night. Zen your way through that one, jackass.
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I hope heads roll
I hope this Donaghy thing blows up and puts some fat cats in jail.
Credibility issue
Tim Donaghy makes Roger Clemens look clean.
Well, whoever had “pro basketball” in the “Where will Congress stick their nose where it doesn’t belong next?’ pool, please come to the front desk and claim your prize.
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For once, I completely disagree with you Section
Donaghy is known to be guilty, and is now cooperating with law enforcement. Clemens is still claiming innocence. Donaghy has nothing to lose by coming clean.
"Rapport? You mean like, 'You run as fast as you can, and I'll throw it as far as I can'?"
-Jeff Kemp, 49ers quarterback, when asked about his rapport with wide receiver Jerry Rice
Not sure
about the timeline of this testimony. My guess (and that’s all that it is) is that it came before his punishment was doled out. If that’s the case, he was not cooperating with law enforcement as much as he was trying to save his arse.
Again, I’ll never say never. But for the time being I will consider the source and choose to focus on something more importnant, like who I am going to choose for tommorow’s draft board.
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Clarification
Good Q & A from ESPN – Donaghy is “cooperating with authorities” while he awaits sentencing. Also some info on the $1 million that the NBA is demanding from Donaghy.
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But...
...Donaghy is not Clemens. Donaghy is McNamee. However, still a scumbag.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jun 11, 2008 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Donaghy is not McNamee
Because to this point Donaghy has no corroborating evidence.
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Show me corroborating proof
That doesn’t come from Donaghy’s mouth or that the Lakers got 27 FT’s in the 4th qtr.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Lot's of proof
that it was the worst officiated “big” game in NBA history. That’s why Donaghy has picked that game out. No secret that it is the leading example of what is wrong with the NBA’s officiating. I still have not picked up anything that violates federal law, however. I also think that Oswald acted alone and that there was no conspiracy to kill Princess Diana. That’s just me.
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How does retarded officiating equal the fix is in Carl?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
The saddest thing...
He’s only telling us things we’ve known for 6 years now…
Absolutely fixed
I’ve known that game was fixed since the moment I watched it, and I’ll never, ever get over it. I don’t know how Donaghy would have known about the game being fixed, and I doubt he has any proof. Whether or not he’s lying about his knowledge of the act doesn’t make it any less true.
In one of several allegations of corrupt refereeing, Donaghy said he learned in May 2002 that two referees known as "company men" were working a best-of-seven series in which "Team 5" was leading 3-2. In the sixth game, he alleged the referees purposely ignored personal fouls and called "made-up fouls on Team 5 in order to give additional free throw opportunities for Team 6."
"Team 6" won the game and came back to win the series, the letter said.
from http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/25084143/
the sacramento kings: where joel przybilla happens
Shocking...but not really
In a way I feel vindicated in what we’ve all been thinking for years. But at the same time, it makes it just feel that much worse.
Weird how the NBA ended up with its coveted Lakers-Celtics finals this year…
"Rapport? You mean like, 'You run as fast as you can, and I'll throw it as far as I can'?"
-Jeff Kemp, 49ers quarterback, when asked about his rapport with wide receiver Jerry Rice
blarg!
Pretty shocking but not shocking at the same time.
by thekangarooster on Jun 10, 2008 6:37 PM PDT reply actions
A post from a reader on espn.com today...
here needs to be an investigation regarding the ‘05 Heat/Mavs Finals series, too…
Adleman’s Quotes after game Six: “I feel sorry for our team, because they did everything they could to win the game,” Sacramento coach Rick Adelman said. “It’s a shame, a real shame. ... Our big guys get 20 fouls, and Shaq gets four. You tell me. Obviously, they got the game called the way they wanted to get it called. We tried to play through it … but obviously, it was a huge change tonight over the last few games.”
Phil Jackson’s comments were a little more telling, as he won the game:
“There were some very interesting sequences in this game that were some eye-openers,” Lakers coach Phil Jackson admitted. “I’m sure we’ll want to take another look at them, both Rick and myself.”
Both coach’s knew something was up…
i really have nothing to add that hasn't already been said,
but i just need to express my extreme hatred for the NBA. I completely agree with Exibit G’s comments. One side is vindicated, the other side knows nothing will change. I would love to be at Dick Bavetta’s first game back at Arco next year, or any game at Arco he ref’s for that matter.
TZ, it would be AWESOME if you could post that in October/ November when the information becomes available (or is it only week to week?).
by Travis Mays Hayes on Jun 10, 2008 7:07 PM PDT reply actions
Slouching Toward Bethlehem
My own abject fan narcissism aside – and aforementioned abject narcissism is so drunk off anger if it was to post presently it would be nothing but expletives and exclamations – shouldn’t we all hope this isn’t true? Yes we can say the Kings realistically won an NBA Championship, but doesn’t it to a similar extent completely invalidate the league we’ve all spent our lives following. What good is a default Kings championship, or asterisk adorned Laker ring, if it happened in a sham league? I love the Kings, but that love can only function in the context of the NBA, deprive us that context and aren’t all we left with a whole lot of sound and fury?
Yeah, I went through all that
I was so pissed after watching Game 6 that I literally called ticket brokers to see if they would buy my Game 7 tickets. I was done with the NBA at that point. They literally fixed a deciding playoff game. I don’t mean I think they fixed a playoff game. I know it like I know the sky is blue.
The brokers didn’t want my tickets, so I ended up going to the game. Later on, I justified continuing to be a fan by telling myself that the Kings were an absolute lock the next season, and we were until Webber’s knee gave out.
I guess my point is that there is no “Hoping it isn’t true.” Not for me. I’ve always known it was true, regardless of what Donaghy or anyone else says.
Well Said
But I hope that this blows up and we won’t have to watch Lebron travel again when he actually wins a championship in the future. Change can happen. This could be a catalyst.
On a personal note, I lived in Southern California for 5 out of the last 6 years, and I have spent countless hours sparring with Laker fans as to the legitimacy of this “conspiracy”. Regardless of the outcome of this, I am finally vindicated.
AK47, SN13, B52, and K9. One guns, Another runs, He fits, while it licks.
BULLSHIT!
I won’t believe a damn thing said by anyone until there are some hard core evidence. Allegations by Tim Donaghy are not HARD CORE EVIDENCE. This is clear retailiation on the NBA because of the NBA’s one million compensatory demand.
Game 6 was absolutely atrocious, we all know that. If the NBA were fixing it’s game for rating s, I think there would’ve been numerous reports by so called “league sources” or some sort of an investigation.
I will NOT believe any kind of game fixing especially on the NBA level until there are some HARD CORE evidence.
BOOK IT!
You'd think there would've been sources...
... oh wait this is it! Those investigations? Ralph Nader called for it. And David Stern delivered. As Stern said, it has already been investigated, and found to be unsubstantiated.
AK47, SN13, B52, and K9. One guns, Another runs, He fits, while it licks.
Yeah, let's trust Stern on this one
Are you serious? As much as I consider it fair to question Donaghy’s credibility, I think it is crazy to just trust David Stern when he says it has been “investigated, and found to be unsubstantiated”.
Donaghy is already screwed. He may be trying to save himself a little bit, but he’s still screwed either way. Stern is the one with the most to lose here.
"Rapport? You mean like, 'You run as fast as you can, and I'll throw it as far as I can'?"
-Jeff Kemp, 49ers quarterback, when asked about his rapport with wide receiver Jerry Rice
I absolutely hate conspiracy theories
In fact, if I could suppress them all, I would. However that would be communism. Even worse off, it would make me a hypocrite because to this day, the only conspiracy I have ever believed, are that certain games are fixed, with total profit in mind, furthermore most of those games are in the N B A. I have seen games were every nit-picky stare in the wrong direction is called a foul, and I have seen games were one player could have pulled a .45 and gunned another down and gotten away with it BY THE SAME REFEREES. We’re not talking consistently good, or consistently bad calls. We’re talking complete inconsistency every season.
Perfectly logical explanation as to why the officiating hasn’t gotten substantially better. They refuse to let it. Why don’t they have instant replays for every, or at least most questionable calls? They show them on the megatron and watch entire arena’s go berserk, sometimes out of drunken passion, but often out of utter disgust.
The system is broke, and the people in high places don’t want it fixed. And yes, this year is a great example, another “questionable” aka fixed call in the spurs/lakers series sent the lakers into the finals. Celtics have already had at least one game obviously called in there favor.
Are people really this oblivious? Or do I really just hate officials that much… I’m done, thank god it’s the offseason or I might not even watch a game for a while… OH WAIT, I haven’t since 2006. I threw away my TV November 22nd, 2006 and haven’t looked back. But I still love the kings enough to read everything about them, and listen to the radio through nba.com
OOooOOOoOo I've come back to haunt you Kings fans
But seriously folks, I’ve always known that it was rigged. And even though I tried to convince myself in recent years that I was just a poor loser, I have always known in the bottom of my heart that that series was not on the level. It’s made me enjoy professional basketball less on the whole, and it’s made my hatred for the Lakers and everything they represent border on obsession. It’s also the reason that, when I had to choose a screen name, I chose the one I have now: the ghost of Dick Bavetta has been haunting me for 6 years, and now I know I’m not alone.
by The Ghost of Dick Bavetta on Jun 10, 2008 8:58 PM PDT reply actions
Stern
He’s such a lying shmuck! This bafoon is trying to discredit the felon, who has nothing else to hide regarding his own allegations. How would these allegations against the NBA possibly get him a shorter term sentance? He’s already screwed. Once he was caught he never denied anything, admitted guilt, and decided to be truthful. A victim of his own greed. Just like Stern and his greed. I’m done with these people. If the Kings dont get the stadium at cal expo and eventually move to Las Vegas I swear im done with the NBA from here on out.
Lakers suck!
Forest and the trees
Let’s take the fun out of this conversation briefly, behave moderately rationally, and assume Donaghy is in fact making this up to save face. Doesn’t it speak volumes on the officiating of 6 that when choosing a game to pin the league’s infidelities on he opts for that one? To a certain extent, even if the game wasn’t rigged, doesn’t the accusation alone validate precisely what we’ve all always felt. In some odd ball, counterproductive, self destructive sort of way isn’t the insinuation enough?
you're right
Either way, whether it was, as Scot Pollard said, “human error or human interference”, the fact that Donaghy would pick this game, which he didn’t ref and wasn’t selected as an alternate for, to throw in the NBA’s face, and the fact that it would cause such a reaction from the pundits across the board, serves as acknowledgement that the Kings got jobbed by the refs that night. Your 2002 champion Kings.
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
Ref A, F, and G
More like ref F, A, and G. This was the biggest WWE event to not take place in the WWE. These guys wanted the lakers to win, and Stern is now caught with his pants down from a guy who admitted tried to fix games. Yeah he made money for the mob, but these NBA homies probably made more money fixing games for the NBA. Image how much more money the league made with the 7th game. I’ve been pissed ever since I saw the game, and for a long time I’ve tried to forget what the hell happened because of what we all know went down. But everytime is see Whorey’s claim to fame, I cant seem to forget what set that up in the first place. Good job NBA. This just goes to show that any small market team will be phased out of the playoffs someway somehow. Look at the Jazz back in the day. Did Jordan really earn all those rings? Who’s in control of the games outcomes here? The players or the corporate sponsors? SHAM! KAZAAM!
Lakers suck!
Holy fucking shit!
What else is there to say?
No one here should be questioning this. Everyone should really be hoping that Donaghy is correct about this. According to Donaghy and both coaches who coached the game who noticed something was up, we should have won. We should have gone to the Finals. We didn’t. If Donaghy is correct we’re owed big time. I don’t know how credible Donaghy really is, but part of me hopes he is.
My opinion is simple
The kings didn’t have the cojones to finish the games they should have won (1 4 & 7) so now that the blame game is milling around about how they get screwed in game 6. Great. But that team couldn’t seal the deal, and no matter what the outcome about game 6 is uncovered with this stupidity moment that is the Donaughy hearings, the only real truth is that the Kings couldn’t finish what they started. Game 6, thrown or not, was not the reason the Kings lost the series.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
But...
they had the balls to win game 6. Let’s assume Donaghy is being honest and is totally correct. Completely lopsided officiating and the Kings only lose by 4? The Kings outplayed the Lakers big time in Game 6. Had the refs not helped out the Kings would have won big time. Here’s the Box Score! The Lakers were outplayed, plain and simple. As far as game 4, well we all remember how that one ended.
If Donaghy’s correct, we got screwed big time.
How do you have the balls to win game 6 and not game 7?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I think that’s an interesting question, and not one without some merit, in fact the overarching point you made, that there were three other games they potentially could have one but didn’t, is one that ought to, and will be, made. BUT I would make three counterpoints for the sake of playing devil’s advocate:
1) Let’s assume in a 7 game series you have the luxury of playing one bad game. It’s an inevitability, particularly when you’re playing an evenly matched opponent. The Kings bad game was Game 1, the Lakers’ was Game 2, negligible.
2) I still think the most difficult thing to adjust two, pushing on six years after the fact, with the Horry shot, is there was realistically nothing the Kings could have done. They played an exceptional game, they were on the road, they were leading, the clock was waning. You could certainly make the argument they should have been ahead by more, but it’s basketball, and the fact that they were not isn’t really an indictment on their inabilities, and certainly not one on their lack of genitalia. As you said in a previous post regarding the lottery Pookey, sometimes it’s better to be lucky, and it’s even better to be lucky when you have Horry.
3) The free throws in Game 7 remain the thorn in Kings’ fans collective side. There’s no excuse for it, no explaining it away. The team showed an exceptional amount of testicular fortitude winning that Game 5 and bouncing back from an otherwise demoralizing Horry shot. But they couldn’t exert the same level of balls when responding to Game 6. But, and again I’m playing contrarian here, the Kings were never noted for their resilience. They didn’t have the toughest mental psyche in the Adelman era. Which is its own criticism. Can you blame a team, particularly a particularly impressionable one, from struggling to fight back in a game that rightfully was theirs? What was Tony Kornheiser’s line the Monday night the Ravens nearly knocked off the Patriots? “The tragedy of inevitability.” The Lakers preyed on preconceptions, fed off fate, there was only so long a team like the Kings could fight that off. And every 27th free throw and Horry buzzer beater gnawed at the darker angels of their nature.
It’s all to easy to dismiss mental fragility as some sign of inferiority, as deserving of punishment. But you try fighting through said fragility when you’re perpetually cast in the role of Sisyphus.
I agree with rbiegler and disagree with Pookey
The standard for cojones in the NBA playoffs is to win 4 games in a 7 game series, not 5. If the Kings got jobbed in Game 6, then to dismiss that by saying they could have ALSO won Game 7 is to hold them to a higher standard than every other team to win the Western Conference. You don’t have to be the ‘83 Sixers and go “fo’ fo’ fo’” – champions can be imperfect and lose games on their way to titles. Most NBA champions are. I don’t think it’s fair to the 2002 team to blame the victim and say they should have won Game 7, too. The Lakers were a great team that year. And that great Lakers team won the pivotal Game 7, so they deserve credit for that. But that great Lakers team only beat the Kings 3 times.
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
Another point
My wife stopped watching basketball after Game 6.
The Kings may not have won Game 7, but to this day my wife won’t watch basketball because of Game 6. It wasn’t just a normal “bad loss” to bounce back from. It’s because of this and because of my own reaction to Game 6 that I don’t watch as many Kings games as I used to.
To me, this is the biggest hole in the “well they could’ve won Game 7” argument. Winning 5 of 7 just isn’t reasonable with evenly matched teams.
Game 6 is what it was
But it didn’t keep the Kings from winning the championship, fair or not. Besides, when is life fair?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Who cares about the balls to winning anything. If they win Game 6, there is no Game 7. Don’t you think those terrible foul calls in Game 6 had some mental impact on the Kings in Game 7? They look frustrated all game.
by BearsNecessity on Jun 10, 2008 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
If it did they didn't deserve to win the series anyway
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
It’s easy to rationalize it that way. But they should’ve won Game 6 and it was taken away from them.
by BearsNecessity on Jun 10, 2008 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
So by your logic
A team should have to win 5 games out of a 7 game series??
"Boo Lakers! Boo Kobe! Go Kings! Go Giants! Boo Dodgers!" - my 5 year-old daughter - 4/15/08
well if you believe something isn't right
why wouldn’t you be off your game.
Suns fan here....
I feel for you guys. The Suns and the Kings have been screwed a fair amount of times in the past and this news comes as no surprise. I sincerely hope that Stern and his cronies can get nailed to the wall, should this accusations carry any weight. God knows that we in Phoenix hold a dark undying hatred for Stern after last year, especially after he flip-floped on the same damned rule this year in the Celtics-Atlanta series.
We shall see if anything comes of this, but should anything happen I sincerely hope that the outcome will lead to a far more trustworthy league for the future.
"Troops in desperate straights know no fear. Where there is no escape, they stand firm; When they have entered deep, they persist; When they see no hope, they fight." Sun Tzu The Art of War
No Rule Change
My biggest problem with the lack of suspensions this year was that the league didn’t change the rule that called for them.
I thought that the suspensions were terrible last year, but hoped that it would at least bring a change for the future. When the rule wasn’t changed, the league office became even less credible (to me) for the lack of suspensions in this year’s playoffs.
There's only one logical solution...
During next year’s draft David Stern rigs the draft lottery to give us the number 1 pick ala Ewing to the Knicks
Delaney
Delaney – Lives near Donaghy in the off-season, they are friends. The scab is off, the wound bleeds again.
eternal skeptical optimist
Donaghy's allegation
true or not…doesn’t matter.
The scab is off, the wound bleeds again.
This statement though, does.
The past can’t be changed, but damn, it hurts to think about this. Even six years later.
The scab is off, the wound bleeds again.
-lietothegirls
by KK on Jun 11, 2008 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Most notorious games
Other game six fixes: World Series, game 6, a clear third out at first base – called safe – let the Royals stretch the series to 7. The Cardinals imploded in the 7th game and many said they couldn’t concentrate, felt they had to play better than thier best to win. [starting pitcher was ejected] The Kings felt the same way – HAD to make every free-throw, every play – or else…
There a neat poster that hung, ‘life-sized’ at bars all over St louis for several years showing Todd Worrell from a centerfield camera with his glove closed around the ball and only the very tip of the runner’s shoe entering the picture.
There’s big money in fixing outcomes – and its EASILY done in close games.
It does matter what happened in game 6.
eternal skeptical optimist
Sorry - that was the '87 World Series
Look it up – us St Louis natives will never forget….
eternal skeptical optimist
2002 WESTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS
The Maloofs should hang a banner at ARCO – to hell with the league..
(sorry I keep posting – so much to say)
eternal skeptical optimist
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