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Are you a "Real" Kings fan...?

Well, if you are, according to Mark Kriedler, then you know that game 6 of the 2002 WCF didn't even matter.  We should have lost the series because of games 4,5, and 7.  I don't recall ever reading an article from this guy before, but he did a good job of trying to saying "Well, let's not worry about what Donaghy said, and this is why..."  It is though, a good article if you like David Stern and people who write to appease him.  Linked...Mark Kriedler article

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Kreidler

Wrote for the Bee years ago. Did a nice job, too.

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by section214 on Jun 12, 2008 9:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Is that sarcasm about doing a nice job?

when will the Kenny Thomas Reign of Terror end?!!??

by diehardkingsfan5 on Jun 12, 2008 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always liked Kreidler

When he was in Sac and since he’s been with ESPN.

Section 214 is one lucky schmoe

by Kfan in Korea on Jun 12, 2008 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

I really enjoyed reading him. I didn’t always agree with him, but I enjoyed his writing style and his ability to gather and share information.

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by section214 on Jun 12, 2008 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I concur. Kreidler was good, and certainly different from the typical NBA columnist style.

by Tom Ziller on Jun 13, 2008 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Best sports person involved with the department who wrote

It’s probably why he isn’t there anymore.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jun 13, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only writer worth reading at the sports side of the Bee

and still the only one worth reading consistently. (Amick is excluded. He rarely gets to write.)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jun 13, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess the Bee has problems with writers doing outside work (for ESPN, etc). That’s why Howard-Cooper was absent for a while, and why Kreidler left. Or so I’ve heard.

by Tom Ziller on Jun 14, 2008 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Papers aren't doing so hot these days

Because they’re becoming an extremely lost medium. If you saw anything of what Buzz Bissinger said on Bob Costas’ segment on blogs, and if you saw how ably Will Carroll handled himself, well if I might say so, then you saw a true, and a problematic, criticism of newspapers. People don’t just run to read papers did like I did when I first became a Kings fan. By the time I was 21 I rarely bought the Bee. I just read articles online, and that was that.

Bissingers point that nobody remembers great writers covering sports, like quite a few did in Bissinger’s youth, were no longer noticed in papers anymore. The best known sportswriters today all appear on television, and maybe with the lone exception of Kornheiser’s and Wilbon’s act on PTI, it’s gotten very tiresome. Stephen A Smith especially. Excellent sports writer, and despicably awful talking head. Skip Bayless is exactly in the same boat. What’s my point? The point is that the writing no longer creates an imagination in the reader’s head about what could have been, or should have been or what could be. It’s all fairly typical paragraph set form, with a few anecdotes that the writer favors. There’s nothing to remember any writer by, and that’s just the lay of the land. It’s too bad because newspapers have brought far more to the political, sporting, and entertainment landscape of Americans than any other media medium. That’s the true shame. That profit destroyed the business, and nothing else.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jun 15, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

One tiny error (Skip Bayless sucks @ writing too)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jun 15, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

why does he bring up game 5? we won that one, mark.

but I mean, real Kings fans know that we choked that one away but also that the refs were complicit in the collapse. Game 6 has been beaten to death, but does anyone remember Samaki Walker’s three pointer after the buzzer at the end of the first half of Game 4?

by coachtheus on Jun 13, 2008 3:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Game 5

I think Kreidler’s point was we shouldn’t have won game five. There was a play late where we knocked a ball out of bounds but possession was awarded to us. Bibby’s game winner was due to an illegal screen by Webber (and that is true – watch the replay). So if games 5 and 6 are called more accurately, the Lakers win game 5 and we win game 6, which brings us right back to game 7.

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by section214 on Jun 13, 2008 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, one bad call and a semi typical

end of the game no call equal the game 6 reaming. I’d say game 4 and game 5 equal out, in that we each got a lucky that we probably didn’t deserve. It’s real tough to beat a good team 5 times in 7 games, which is what we’d basically have done if we’d won game 7.

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by Kfan in Korea on Jun 13, 2008 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

In fairness, the Spurs have built a dynasty partially on the back of illegal screens. And Garnett has committed roughly 210 of them this series.

by Tom Ziller on Jun 13, 2008 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Question,

illegal screens are one thing that i often miss, do you think theyre going uncalled because of “star treatment” or are there certain ways (perhaps, like screening a guy’s back? i dont know) that will almost always go uncalled no matter the player or team?

"everything was beautiful and nothing hurt"

by richmond02 on Jun 13, 2008 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Illegal screens are often missed because plays are fully developed

or the ref’s are paying attention to other things. That’s why they’re not called as often as some would hope.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jun 13, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep. And they could be called on most plays.

by Tom Ziller on Jun 14, 2008 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm glad Kreidler pointed it out that the Kings lost the series

So I’m going to shutup and go away for good until I can figure out what I think about this draft. The way I’m going I probably won’t.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jun 13, 2008 12:26 PM PDT reply actions  

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