Surprise! Sources Say Artest Might Opt Out After All
You can never predict what Ron Artest will say next. We all know this. That is probably why, despite two months of "I'm not opting out" talk, we aren't surprised when a report like this one from HOOPSWORLD hits the wire:
Multiple sources tell HOOPSWORLD that Ron Artest is seriously considering opting out of the final year of his contract. Artest can stick with the Sacramento Kings for one final year at $7.4 million or choose to become an unrestricted free agent this summer.
Should Artest choose to opt out, he would likely look for a full Mid Level Exception (MLE) deal with a championship contender such as the Los Angeles Lakers, San Antonio Spurs or even the New Orleans Hornets.
Good news? Bad news? It's somewhere in between, for sure. An opt-out doesn't grant Sacramento any magical cap space, with or without Beno. And while it shouldn't necessarily affect the draft in a major way, it certainly keeps Petrie's seat shifting.
Stay tuned. Thirteen more days, possibly 13 additional different reports.
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Reading the Times this morning
I’m not sure you would give scorecards on a bench trial, as what’s currently happening, but it seemed like the Bennett side drew blood in making Seattle mayor, Greg Nickels, look confused on the cross examination.
Reading SuperSonic Soul, the PI, and Tacoma News & Tribune for other details on how the trial is doing.
As far as Hawes being there, and I think it’s interesting, I think it’s a good thing.
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by pookeyguru on Jun 17, 2008 8:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wrong section. My apologies
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by pookeyguru on Jun 17, 2008 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope he really is seriously considering it
...because i just want this guy out of here. true, he may be our best player, but still…i just don’t think i can take any more ron artest.
by sactoreg on Jun 17, 2008 8:11 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Couple things
First is that Artest is un-predictable. I’ve said it before, and I’m saying it now: We know what Artest will do when June 30th comes & goes. That’s the only way we know what intention he really has.
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by pookeyguru on Jun 17, 2008 8:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Pookey sez
First is that Artest is un-predictable. I’ve said it before, and I’m saying it now: We know what Artest will do when June 30th comes & goes. That’s the only way we know what intention he really has.
Pookey translated into English:
Note: unpredictable doesn’t require a hyphen. Also note: the numerous dropped/missing words that prevent your intent from being conveyed to most readers who can’t read your mind. My apologies, I’m simply tired of trying to divine your intent
First is that Artest is unpredictable. I’ve said it before, and I’m saying it now: We will not know what Artest will do untilwhenJune 30th comes & goes. That’s the only way we know what intention he really has.
Hopefully, I’ve reconstructed your post to reflect your true intent.
Signed,
Not a spelling/grammar “socially unacceptable word” .
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by KK on Jun 17, 2008 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhm righty-o "Not a Spelling/Grammar "socially unacceptable word"
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by pookeyguru on Jun 18, 2008 2:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool!
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by KK on Jun 18, 2008 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a point you're making in all this?
Other than calling me an asshole? (Which isn’t news by the way.)
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by pookeyguru on Jun 18, 2008 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My original point
was to try to understand your original post. My reply was meant to be funny but I’m no Section214.
My bad.
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by KK on Jun 19, 2008 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey -
Even section214 isn’t section214 -
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“Oh, my God! It’s E-Muss!!!”
Sorry about that. Mrs. section214 said that was ginseng that she put in my coffee this morning, but I’m beginning to have my doubts. Now will someone please come over and help me get these flying blue snapping turtles out of my kitchen?
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by section214 on Jun 20, 2008 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless Artest knows something we don't.
He’s not opting out. S/F’s are a dime a dozen, even quality ones. He has a wife and kids, as much as it’s not about the money, the element does exist mid-level is an insult to him, he’s said it before he wants a bigger paycheck. He’ll wait til next season.
by dkons21 on Jun 17, 2008 8:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Its always about the money.
Unless you’re completely over the hill and finally decide u want to win it all. At 28 years old there is no possible way this happens. Signing for the full MLE would cost him 10’s of millions of dollars and its just not happening, I am beginning to think that sites will print anything when there is no news, because that’s what this is.
by moproblemz on Jun 17, 2008 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curious
How do you calculate it at 10’s of millions of dollars?
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by otis29 on Jun 17, 2008 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off-hand
I’d say that’s not too much of a stretch.
Artest’s $8.45M (according to HoopsHype) next season is more than one quarter of his estimated $31M 5-year MLE deal. Even if he only played out his current contract and signed for the (higher) MLE next year, that’s at least an $8.5M difference.
Now consider that he gets a new deal in Sac (or via S&T) over the MLE . . . that’s easily in the $10M+ range.
by smgmatt on Jun 17, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FYI: His contract is only $7.4 million for next year. HoopsHype (and others) has it wrong.
by Ziller on Jun 17, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Verified?
I’ve seen the $7.4M number as well, but was it verified as correct?
Either way, my example still stands, I’m just curious why HoopsHype (and others) wouldn’t correct their information if it’s been verified at $7.4M.
by smgmatt on Jun 17, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amick said he has seen the contract, and it says $7.4M.
by Ziller on Jun 17, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
It doesn’t get much more verified than that. I wonder how he got the chance to see it.
That also explains why other outlets haven’t changed their numbers, if they either (a) don’t know about this, or (b) don’t trust it over whatever their original source is.
Thanks for the info.
by smgmatt on Jun 17, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He asked somebody near the team
My suggestion is you start using Sham Sports from now on. It’s a better source. So is ESPN for some things (like where a player is PPP, BYC, or has a trade restriction).
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by pookeyguru on Jun 17, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Limited Options
I’ll try out Sham Sports, but I can’t get to ESPN’s Trade Machine at work because it’s in their “games” section and is thus Blocked by Websense here at work.
It’s pretty frustrating during “trading season” when everyone posts Trade Ideas with just the links . . . I end up either deducing the trade from the reaction comments or waiting until I get home to see what they actually are.
by smgmatt on Jun 18, 2008 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
smgmatt
pookey is right. He pointed me towards shamsports months ago and they are the most consistently correct. You’re not alone in the confusion over Artest’s contract. Even Marty MacNeal at the Bee reported it at $8.45 million as recently as last month. But Amick came out a day or two later and reiterated that it was indeed $7.4 million.
Don’t discard HoopsHype completely. They have Martin’s salary info plugged in while shamsports does not. But I’ll give shamsports the humor edge. They have changed Ben Wallace’s name to “The worst player in the NBA by a pretty comfortable margin.” Don’t know that it’s true, but it’s funny.
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by section214 on Jun 18, 2008 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just saw that actually!
I was looking through them and caught that. I had to do a double-take because I didn’t see Wallace listed at first glance.
by smgmatt on Jun 18, 2008 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate to admit it....
but Ron and his PR tour of Sacramento has kind of grown on me. I would hate to lose him for nothing but I don’t blame him for opting out. The Kings don’t seem likely to extend him at this point and especially with the 2010 plan in place. Thins team is still a couple of years away and with guys like KG and R. Allen playing for championships in year one for the Celtics is probably appealing. Maybe the Josh Howard talk will warm up, it makes sense for all sides, including Artest.
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by jjham15 on Jun 17, 2008 8:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The 2010 plan is a dumb flawed plan with or without Artest
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by pookeyguru on Jun 17, 2008 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Optimistic
That he’ll stay. I dont believe he’d continue on his Goodwill tour of Sacramento as of late had he planned on opting out afterall. And I’m sure Petrie and Theus have had very spirited conversations with him due to the impending draft in a week or so.
Especially with the significant free-agent class coming next year, it would be foolish for him to jump ship to a “contender” for the MLE when the power struggle throughout the landscape will surely change over the next year. Granted, teams like the Lakers and Hornets (the first 2 that come to mind) look like they’ll be around for awhile. However, the “older” top-tier of teams like the Pistons and Spurs can easily fall off significantly by the 2010 season.
On a side note…..
I’m hearing and reading a ton of rumblings about Elton Brand’s frustration with losing in LA. As I understand, he has an option in the next year to become an unrestricted FA. I dont believe it would that far fetched for Artest to want to stay in SAc for the long haul and bring along his childhood buddy (and still one of his good friends in the NBA) to Sactown in 2010. It may sound like a pipedream, but i dont think its that far-fetched.. Imagine a (insert PG here), Martin, Artest, Brand and Hawes lineup!!!!!
by Hoops916 on Jun 17, 2008 8:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Elton Brand has an ETO
He can opt out for this summer, and say screw making 16 million next year when I can be a Free Agent this time around. (He would easily be the most coveted FA if healthy. No if’s butt’s about it.)
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by pookeyguru on Jun 17, 2008 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice
Research Pookey… Maybe its just a pipedream then..O-well…But if there is one dude in the L who is crazy enough to sacrafice $$ to play alongside a friend for the opportunity to win a chip,,it would be good ol Ron Ron..
by Hoops916 on Jun 17, 2008 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that is potentially possible
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by pookeyguru on Jun 17, 2008 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sources and opting out
My understanding is that Hoopsworld doesn’t have a sterling reputation in predicting these things. If Artest were to opt out, there is no reason he couldn’t sign a one year MLE deal with another team and then become a free agent again next summer.
If there is anything to this, I’d bet he is either watching the Lakers vs. Celtics series and thinking that he would be the difference maker or he wants to play in New York. I want Artest gone, but I don’t like the idea of losing him for nothing. The Kings could have gotten expiring contracts and the #20 pick from Denver, which might have turned into a pick in the #6-9 range when combined with the #12 the Kings already have.
by Carl on Jun 17, 2008 10:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The "word" from down south...
ESPN 710am down here had an open discussion yesterday about whether the Lakers should keep with their current roster, or mix things up in the off season (this does relate, stay with me). After tons of dip-sh*t callers, the hosts came to the conclusion that the best thing for them to do is trade Odom for Artest.
While I am not sure how I would feel about the deal, it leads itself to an important point. If Artest opt’s out, then we get nothing for him. This is why I, and so many others, were upset when he did not get traded at the deadline last season. While I am not a fan of Ron and do not see him as part of this teams future, I would rather have him not opt out, so that we can trade him for something.
I am curious what you all think, would you trade Artest for Odom?
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by 27freethrows on Jun 17, 2008 10:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yes
without a doubt. That would be a very interesting trade too, and could make the lakers unstoppable, but would make the kings much better.
by Travis Mays Hayes on Jun 17, 2008 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
On first thought I like the trade, which made me think, “why would LA want to do this?” The more you think, the more you see how great of a fit Artest would be on that team. Which begs the question, would you want to make the Kings better, if it also meant helping the Lakers to get over the hump?
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by 27freethrows on Jun 17, 2008 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The kings are far enough off
from actual title contention that I don’t think it should matter too much if it makes the Lakers better. It’s almost like we are selling the same product but to differnet markets. That might sound stupid, but we need to worry more about the teams near the bottom half of the playoff ladder and first look to competing with them.
by Travis Mays Hayes on Jun 17, 2008 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
that makes a lot of sense and is a great point. We should be focused only on what makes us better, as we are at least two full years away from even dreaming about being a title contender. In two years Ron could be retired/demanding a trade/doing color commentary for MSG/selling real estate/running a kennel/opening for Jay-Z/playing for Jay-Z/working at Circuit City (great employee discounts!!!)/joining Shaq on the Miami police/valeting for Kobe/opting in/opting out/going to optician school/wearing the costume for your local “Mr. Pickles”/a fireman/a doorman/a man’s man.
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by section214 on Jun 17, 2008 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You missed a couple like,
rap spewing professional wrestler, nanny, pet-sitter and chiroprator.
As a matter of fact, it’d be pretty amusing (to me) to read some of the most talented posters here come up with their best Ron-Ron pro wrestler raps. But that’s just me.
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by KK on Jun 17, 2008 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh...
I don’t see what acquiring Odom does for the Kings. He puts up decent numbers, but does it in the most unimpressive way possible. He just manages to look invisible out on the floor. The guy isn’t even good enough to be a third wheel on a championship caliber team. His contract is up next season and I definitely don’t see signing him long term. Maybe I’m nuts, but I’d rather have young guys or draft picks.
by Carl on Jun 17, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if?
Odom makes about $14M to Artest’s $7.4M (see TZ, I can adapt) . . . so what if a Hydra Head (K9/SAR) was included to make it happen? If this is the case, count me in.
Plus, both Artest & Odom would be Expiring Contracts, but perhaps Odom would be easier to move or get more in return from another team. We’ve seen what the market for Artest looks like (low 1st with no young upside players included).
Just a thought.
by smgmatt on Jun 17, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
make it happen
This is a trade that really should happen. Artest could be the difference-maker in LA, it may bring out the best in him. Odom would be a significant upgrade for us at the 4 and we really need another facilitator on offense and rebounder/defender.
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by Holmdel on Jun 17, 2008 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Odom is really not a 4.
Early in his career he had marijuana issues which I highly doubt have gone away. Odom really reminds me of Billy Owens(who from my sources also had a major MJ issue), a very talented player who only shows up half the time. When he is on, similar to Owens, he is awesome but then he just disappears in the other games. I would make the trade if the Lakers would take on K-9 solely to free up the 14 million in contract due next season. If everything works out with Odom and he wants to stay you sign him (but not for 14 mill) and if not, he is a much more marketable sign and trade guy than Artest.
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by jjham15 on Jun 17, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
Yeah, I’d absolutely take him if one of the Hydras were included in the deal.
by Carl on Jun 17, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No but it isn't financially feasible anyway
Unless you add someone like Kenny Thomas in the mix (which I guarantee is what would happen).
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by pookeyguru on Jun 17, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Odom makes 14.1 million dollars next season
Unless we are speaking a different language, this is going to cost the Lakers a year of salary at a minimum. Would I do this trade? Sure, why not I guess. I’m not the biggest fan of Odom, but then again, I don’t think it makes a great deal of difference either. Odom won’t do anything that this team needs consistently other than rebounding, and while that is a need, and Odom has a ton of skills, I’m not exactly sure why the Lakers would be dying to deal Odom since his deal expires after next season.
I don’t really care for what Odom is, on this team, and I don’t really see why the Kings would strongly consider it, even if you’re dumping Thomas’ salary in the deal.
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by pookeyguru on Jun 17, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pooksta!
Use your magic and knowledge (and the trade machine) to come up with a trade that works, whille getting all of the above done. I am curious what would ned to be involved.
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by 27freethrows on Jun 17, 2008 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hydra Head and Artest not opting out
Of course, Artest could opt out and a S&T could happen too. It just largely depends on things. I can’t trade machine anything because of the nature of Artest’s contract so therefore it’s just simply conjecture at this point.
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by pookeyguru on Jun 18, 2008 2:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me help you with one thing though
Don’t give up in this false BS game that many do this time of year in saying we’ll trade the 8th pick for such & such. Draft Picks don’t count as money on the cap until they’re signed, and that doesn’t happen until sometime in July at the earliest. In otherwords? Any deal you make with draft picks has to include salary otherwise it’s not a valid trade.
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by pookeyguru on Jun 18, 2008 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't get caught up--that is what I meant to say
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jun 18, 2008 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK...
...Ron Artest should leave Sac. I agree. That being said, he will be playing for a contract next year and should be very productive. The question is whether the Kings should start rebuilding the SF position now or should wait a year.
I hope the Kings want to start rebuilding now, but I also think that I would enjoy watching Artest fighting for a new contract next year.
by Red Reign on Jun 17, 2008 4:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Odom
His marijuana issue is old, old news. I have tremendous respect for Odom, who went through the horror of losing a young child last year and played through it. He has one year at $14.1 million, so K9(woof!) or ‘Reef could be packaged. Yes, yes, yes!!! He is not a true 4 but can log at least as much time there as Artest. He is not an alpha male, but he is a solid contributor that would have no problem defering to Martin. Odom could play out the year here or we deal him at deadline time for youth and/or picks.
Regarding Ron, I will only be upest if he opts out because we could have gotten the #20 pick for him, and that pick in Petrie’s hands could have yielded a player.
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by section214 on Jun 17, 2008 4:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
More on Odom
Absolutely agree with Section. Odom is a fantastic player, imo. I think he could have one of his better years here in Sacramento or at least have a career similar to that of his lone year in Miami. What’s particularly attractive about Odom is he can be a go to guy, like he showed in Miami and I still remember the 30, 19 and 11 he dropped on us in 2004.
Odom is an absolutely fantastic player and to be also packaged with Reef or K9 make this deal a double hit.
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by kingme18 on Jun 17, 2008 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Odom's not an alpha male
because he’s on a team with the king of all alpha males.
Maybe we’d see a more aggressive Odom if he were in an offense where he’s not an afterthought.
If this trade happens, I’d like to see Thomas be the one who goes, because I suspect that SAR’s being positioned for medical retirement. Then Mikki comes off the bench at either 4 or 5 as an energy player with Garcia, Hawes and Williams, and we have our new Bench Mob.
I like it. I like it a lot.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 17, 2008 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The challenge
would be crafting a deal that ships out K9(woof!) that we don’t like.
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by section214 on Jun 17, 2008 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like it a lot too...
What fun to see the the Finals losers deal with two more gigantic egos again.
Sigh…I still miss the Kobe/Shaq ego clash. Although, as I recollect, the last time the Lakers won a championship was when they had the two giant egos playing for them.
Post two giant egos clashing in L.A. the record stands at:
NBA championships:
Shaq: 1
Kobe: 0
Life is good tonight. The only thing that would make tonight’s beatdown better would have been pictures of Kobe crying again. Sigh…I miss those days too. I wonder why neither ABC or ESPN has shown interviews of the Lakers players. Still, I have hope they’ll eventually surface on either TV or the Internet.
Congrats to 27freethrows for his summer free of Lakers fan torture!
The scab is off, the wound bleeds again.
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by KK on Jun 17, 2008 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You speak truth!
I was dreading this summer if the Lakers won.
Oh yah, you all might enojy this. I drove to work today with my Kings flag on my car. Loved it!
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by 27freethrows on Jun 18, 2008 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check back in with us
We want to make sure you made it home OK.
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by section214 on Jun 18, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The beauty of being 6'-5" 235lbs
is that I dont have to worry. Plus, I live in Orange County, not L.A. and everyone here is soft. Plus, I am not dumb enough to leave it on my car in the parking lot. It was just for the drive.
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by 27freethrows on Jun 18, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's been a beautiful day.
I talk/email/IM with co-workers in L.A. on a regular basis. Our internal IM system allows for a photo attachment. This was mine this morning:
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Would you like extra salt with your wound?
Really, I had to take pity and remove it…eventually. I couldn’t bear the howling anymore.
Have a peaceful summer, 27!
The scab is off, the wound bleeds again.
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by KK on Jun 18, 2008 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scary thought
I just had a horrifying thought. Kings execs are obsessed, OBSESSED with jump shooters. Vladimir Radmanovic and Jordan Farmar for Artest works under the cap. The Kings need a point guard, and Radmanovic does nothing but shoot jump shots and screw up. I’m sorry, hold on…the idea of Radmanovic playing here just made me throw up a little bit. Are the Kings are dumb enough to do this deal?
by Carl on Jun 18, 2008 1:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Only If...
Mitch throws in Linas Klieza.
Otherwise, no deal.
by smgmatt on Jun 18, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously though...
I’d rather see Artest walk than get this for him.
by smgmatt on Jun 18, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way
Mad Rad has an option year in the magic 2010-11 space. GP no likey 2010 contracts.
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by section214 on Jun 18, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can someone possibly explain
How Geoff Petrie believes the summer of 2010 will be his bonanza? I don’t get it, and I really don’t get it.
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by pookeyguru on Jun 18, 2008 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe this will help
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2008/6/11/550332/list-of-possible-2010-free
With the number of players available in 2010, the Kings could be a player for one (or some, like Orlando with Hill/McGrady/almost Duncan) of them if they have the cap space available, depending on the number of teams that actually get that cap space to sign players.
If GP can get a solid core together (i.e. Playoff Bound, but missing a piece to be Championship hopefuls) then Sacramento also becomes a Contender as well as a payday for prospective Free Agents.
I’m not saying any of this is a lock, but if nothing else it’s a numbers game at this point . . . for example, how many teams have cap space this year? If Elton Brand, Shaun Marion, or Ron Artest (to name 3) want to opt out, they can all fight over Philly’s cap space and that’s about it.
by smgmatt on Jun 19, 2008 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To pookey's point
A lot of teams are clearing cap space for 2010, and a lot of those players could be resigned by their current teams. So 2010 will be a crapshoot.
But, unless there is a way to magically rid ourselves of bad contract prior to that, 2010 it is. Bibby was a start, but he filled a need for Atlanta. Where is the need for ‘Reef or K9(woof!)? Miller might be moveable. We’ll just have to continue to utilize our draft choices and hope for the best.
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by section214 on Jun 19, 2008 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Making a move in 2010 may be tangential to what the rest of the teams are doing by trying to enter the LeBronze sweepstakes
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by pookeyguru on Jun 20, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CRAZY, craaaazy people!
I just don’t understand the anti – Artest sentiment here. Odem? He’s just an overpaid soft player (with some skills) that fills in some lines on the stat sheet. He OBVIOUSLY could NEVER lead a team. He’d be incredibly unhappy here, a cancer in the locker room and underperform even more on the floor than he does in LA. I wouldn’t want him on my team at any price. Its nuts to talk about giving away a still young (28) championship piece. THINK about it – how will Ron be when he really KNOWS he’s got a good, complete team with him? He’ll be a terror, an engine of destruction other teams will FEAR. They have to game plan extra for him now as it is. I don’t CARE if other teams do/will hate him – hell, I welcome it! SAVE RON ARTEST!! (and get him to talk to his buddy Elton Brand)
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jun 20, 2008 10:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
2010 dreams
We’ll NEVER attract a marque player in 2010 unless they see we’re READY and have pieces in place to be a championship team. What? Are we planning for 2012 now? Build on what we have NOW and that includes Ron Artest.
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by lietothegirls on Jun 20, 2008 10:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not anti-Artest
but my sentiments can be found here.
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by section214 on Jun 20, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what happens in 2009 if he is a Free Agent? How do you re-sign Artest and
keep your young talent, especially when you have to give Cisco an extension, and other things such as this? Signing Free Agent’s is a total crapshoot. Read: Rashard Lewis in Orlando. And there are people who say he’s somewhat successful on a reasonable basis.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jun 20, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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