Chad Ford grades the draft
We got the second lowest grade (C-) behind Dallas (D, although it appears the Kidd trade affected the grade. So We're the worst out of teams who didn't make a desperation trade for the corpse of a once great PG.)
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Ford's logic
Petrie caused him his biggest miss, so we get the low grade.
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Right.
I can guarantee you if you went back and matched the picks Petrie made against Ford’s picks we would not be calling Ford an expert.
Honestly, I don’t give a damn what Chad Ford says. I think he’s an idiot. I almost never agree with him. I’m not saying the Kings should have gotten an A. Far from it. I would give the Kings a 79% grade. If they would have chosen Walker instead of Ewing Jr., I would be grading the draft an A- for the Kings.
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Yeah
I think that was my biggest problem with choices that the Kings could actually make (you can’t take Bayless or Dorsey if they aren’t there, and if teams don’t like what you’re offering you can’t make trades either . . . for example).
I would much rather have gotten Walker than EJ . . . or even both if we could have stepped up and bought his rights instead of watching Boston do so (not my money, I know).
BTW, I like how “EJ” sounds, and I might even call him “Edge” if he sticks around long enough.
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Even if I stopped being a Sacramento Kings fan (never going to happen) I would still come to this site you read your posts. You are so damn funny. I want to see the P-Ew chant in section 214 this season!
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It's all crap
When there is only one “D” out of 30 options, that is probably not the greatest grading system. How does that even come close to fitting a standard Bell Curve?
At least Ford’s “C-” is better than the “Fans Grade: F” they showed on the draft broadcast last night. At this rate, maybe tonight we’ll get an “A”.
Draft Grades are always like this too (e.g. NFL), which is just a joke.
I hate the inherent bias..
towards teams picking near the top. Chicago gets an A for picking Rose? Really? Does that pick require any skill whatsoever? Of course that’s a good pick, they won the frickin draft lottery.
by misterbrister on Jun 27, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree
The point I was making is that pretty much everyone in these “Draft Grades” articles end up in the “B/C” range with “A’s” sprinkled in depending on the writer, but they rarely make any sense, because how can EVERYONE ALWAYS be average or better?
Using this as one as an example, there was one “D”. ONE. That means that EVERY SINGLE TEAM IN THE NBA* other than the Mavs got pretty much exactly what they should have gotten in the draft. SERIOUSLY?
The Lakers got an “A” for drafting Joe Crawford (58). Really? Did they knock this draft out of the park with their low 2nd Round Pick? I think the Kings did much better in the draft than the Lakers, but because the Lakers “would do that [Gasol] deal a hundred times over” they get an “A” for the draft. HUH?
Footnote* Every team that drafted anyway, there were a 3 “Inc’s” in there, which seems like a cop out as well. How about a “D” for the Hawks not getting back into the draft? How can you not judge the Hornets selling their pick when Arthur ended up falling and might have swung a deal for Batum like Portland did? Why not give the Nuggets a grade for trading their pick for (possibly) a higher 1 in the future? It’s just ridiculous all around.
As Kings fans we really should be used to this by now
When was the last time GP truely made a sexy pick? Makes you wonder of Geoff ever took out the hot, brainless, cheerleader in high school or if he waited and found the quiet girl in Frech class who actually looked pretty good once she took off her glasses and smiled—then married her.
"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie
1997?
I think Jason Williams would qualify as a sexy pick. That’s once in 13 years.
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Brian Grant?
Was he a “sexy” pick? My girlfriend says that Peja was a sexy pick. I had to explain to her in what context sexy is being used.
He can shoot, and he looks great in a suit. Hey, everybody - It's REGGIE TIME!
Actually
I think the Grant pick mirrors the Thompson pick a little.
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J Will
So maybe he dated the hot cheerleader once, she gave him the clap, and he’s sworn off sexy cheerleaders?
"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie
Excellent comparison
If you look at Thompson’s stats.. 20,12,2. Those are probably numbers that can translate into the NBA.
I just hope we can somehow get Raymond Felton
Artest for Morrison and Felton???
BOOK IT!
Eh don't need Morrison,
just make it Felton. Goddamn Bobcats.
Felton for Salmons
Anyone remember if Salmons played for Brown in Philly, and if so, what was their relationship like?
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That wouldn’t work under the cap and besides taking on Morrison is suppose to induce MJ to trade him.
BOOK IT!
I have
Salmons ($5.1 million) and Felton ($4.1 million) well within 25% of each other pay wise. How does that not work under the cap?
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Because
The above thread went from:
Artest for Morrison and Felton???
to:
just make make it Felton.
Salmons for Felton (as you suggested after that) does work, Artest for Felton does not.
Thank you
You’re like my translator. How do you say “We need a point guard” in Swahili?
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Because
if we look anywhere else, Kevin Pritchard will grab him first.
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by section214 on Jun 27, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No place for Artest to play
They’ve already got Richardson and Wallace, so there’s really no place for Artest or Salmons to play on that team.
But
The Bobcats have been rumored to be moving Wallace.
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Yes please!
I’d be happy to take Wallace off their hands. Yeah, I know he’s hurt 30 games a year, but the 50 games Wallace does play are more entertaining than anyone else’s 82 game season.
Please, not here
He has five years left at $9.5 million per.
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No using logic to win an argument!
I wasn’t asking for LOGIC here. I just like watching the guy play. And you’re right. But I still like watching him play.
except in this game...
the cheerleader is more likely to steal your money and give you VD, while the bookworm puts out and fixes your car for you.
(lame metaphor, I know)
by misterbrister on Jun 27, 2008 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
three-team trade
Artest and K-9 (woof!) to Lakers; Lamar O to Grizz; Kyle Lowrey and salary cap equalizer to Kings.
Life is every mammal's journey from very very wet to very very dry.
Nice idea
But I don’t think that Memphis has the working pieces, especially since their new players from Minnesota (see Walker, Antoine) cannot be traded for 60 days…at least I think that’s the rule.
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Lowry or Crittendon for Shelden Williams
Lowry or Crittendon are the third and fourth string point guards on that team. The Grizz have nothing to lose by trading one of them for Shelden. I’d really prefer Conley, but that ain’t happening.
I like it
But with the premium on point guards I’m betting that they can get more. I think they intend to play Mayo at the two and Conley at the point. Crittenton could play on the floor with either of those guys. Lowry is expendable, but I don’t know that they’ll give him up for The Landlord. Wouldn’t that be freakin’ cool, though? Thin the PF herd and score a PG.
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This was Chad Fords Review of Thompson In Mock 7.0
The skinny: Thompson could go as high as No. 14. He’ll also get looks from several teams throughout the first round. But there’s no way he’ll slip past Detroit at No. 29. He’s exactly what the Pistons are looking for—a skilled big man who can rebound and defend.
My thoughts on Ford: I like that he has more information than almost any other draft reporter.
I don’t like that he doesn’t seem to know much about NBA teams or NBA basketball.
yep
he’s definitely friendly with a lot of GMs (Walsh, Dumars, Pritchard), as his podcasts indicate. My guess is that he gets nothing or close to it from Petrie just like every other reporter, so he really does not know how the Kings draft or evaluate talent.
also, are mid-major prospects the new euros?
Beware certitude.
Mid Major prospects have always been good sources of talent
Guys like Ford fail to realize playing at a program has little to do with how the NBA generally evalutes talent. That’s the real problem in all this.
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That only compounds the fact
that Ford is trying to grade a draft before 3 years are up. How can you possibly do that?
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umm...
not very well. anyone remember what he said about martin or garcia? (i don’t want to know what he said about douby)
Beware certitude.
It doesn't matter what he said
Nobody can grade a draft until down the road. Period, and end of story.
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What a great point!
He should be evaluating the 2005 draft right now.
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If he had his board would look totally different
Anyway, I’m done for the night. It’s sleepy time.
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Draft Analysis
Is done for the most casual of basketball fans. Most knowledgable fans realize the absurdity of attempting to evaluate a draft the day after.
"Boo Lakers! Boo Kobe! Go Kings! Go Giants! Boo Dodgers!" - my 5 year-old daughter - 4/15/08
Exactly
Talent doesn’t just automatically show itself, right after draft day. This is more like a, “I’m going to grade you based on how much you agree with me” analysis.
I realize this Otis and your point is well heeded
The problem why doesn’t ESPN at least attempt to promote some sane fashion of basketball fandom? Why does every fan have to be stupid beyond belief?
(I’m sure the casual fan doesn’t even pay attention to those grades anyway.)
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I disagree.
The problem why doesn’t ESPN at least attempt to promote some sane fashion of basketball fandom? Why does every fan have to be stupid beyond belief?(I’m sure the casual fan doesn’t even pay attention to those grades anyway.)
I’m fairly certain that it’s what most casual fans do base their opinions on…and that’s unfortunate.
The scab is off, the wound bleeds again.
-lietothegirls
by KK on Jun 28, 2008 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah if they bother to remember to look
Chances are anyone reading those rankings cares more about them than some with average rooting interest does. I don’t agree with you, and that’s my pregorative. (Or however you spell it.)
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Screw Chad Ford and ESPN
ESPN put their precious commercials in just before our 1st round pick and commercialed over our 2 second round picks. Chad Ford keeps bashing the Kings on draft night because Petrie almost never selects who he wants. Those bastards.
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