Find the Kings a Point Guard
(From the FanPosts. -TZ)
The only point guard on the Kings roster is last night's second round draft pick Sean Singletary. What should the team do to get another point guard?
Do the Kings re-sign Beno for three to five years at mid level exception of $6 million per year? Is it better to save the $18 million to $30 million in salary to sign a less expensive point from the free agent market? Should the Kings look at trading with teams overloaded with point guards, like Memphis and Portland?
Since we know how well Petrie listens to our draft advice, let's help him find the Kings a point guard.
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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Come on Carl
We have Douby! And Cisco! How many more PG’s do we need??
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by otis29 on Jun 27, 2008 10:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hahahaha
I want us to sign Beno for five years at five million, and try again in the draft next year.
If the Clips get their grubby hands on Beno, then I vote sending BradBaby to the Bulls for Thomas/Noah and Hinrich. Throw in Shelden if we must.
If neither of that works, I vote we shoot Kevin Pritchard and steal one of his fifteen point guards. Rodriguez is a sexy name.
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by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pritchard will rob us blind....
We can’t possibly negotiate with this dark knight. He’ll 3 card monte us for all our draft picks.
by discocricket on Jun 27, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's why we can't negotiate.
I said shoot him. Shoot him dead. Bang. Bang. Gimme dat point guard.
[no, I have not gotten over the draft]
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by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
take the military stance: you don't negotiate with terrorists.
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by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
The Lowry-for-Shelden idea that was proposed somewhere would be awesome, in my consternations.
If we get Lowry, I vote we get us some White Chocolate on the cheap-o signed for like 3 years at 3 mill per to start, and they each play 25 minutes till Lowry shines, or we try again in the draft next year.
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by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love that idea....
...IF they want the absentee Landlord.
by discocricket on Jun 27, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who would the target teams want?
What could we give CHI or CHA or MEM to get their young guns? Anyone want a dude with a fivehead and K-9?
by discocricket on Jun 27, 2008 11:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
PG do's and don'ts
Forget about Hinrich. If $29 million over five years is risky for Beno (and I don’t want to pay that), then what is $37.5 million over four years for a PG that finished behind Beno (and practically every other starting PG) in PER last year. His contract runs past 08-09 (a GP no-no), and he’s worse than Bibby.
Beno for 3 years at the full MLE ($17.4 million) = yes. Beno for 5 years at the full MLE ($29 million) = no.
Felton for Salmons = yes. Felton and Morrison for K9(woof!) and a future lottery protected 1st round pick = yes. Felton and Morrison for Moore and Douby = yes.
Shelden Williams and Mikki Moore for Kyle Lowry and Antoine Walker = yes, provided you buy out Walker and send him home.
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by section214 on Jun 27, 2008 11:14 AM PDT reply actions 8 recs
I don't understand this
People frequently comment “recd” or “+1”, but they don’t actually rec… which reduces the odds the person gets the green aura of fame. No to single you out disco, but I’m kind of lost as to why it’s been happening.
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by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the note
Still figuring out the software.
by discocricket on Jun 27, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaaah,
Hit the little actions thing to the bottom of the comment, then you can choose whether to flag or rec. I assume the SBNation guys did it this way (make you do two clicks) so that people don’t accidentally flag and rec.
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by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't need the link...
which is blocked at my work anyhow. What kinda porn site do you get your jokes from?
I love Walker’s comments on why he shoots so many 3’s though – thanks for throwin’ that out there.
by cabz on Jun 27, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
...ummm, Sports Illustrated porno
MMMM, Gason Giambi’s Stache…..
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by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps...
it was blocked after discussion broke out about how the Yankees break out of their hitting slumps.
by cabz on Jun 27, 2008 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
let's see....
How does one make their wood rise faster and hit harder, and still have the endurance to go 180 games a season?
The sad part is, this: Canadian Sports Journalism at Its Finest
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by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All good deals
Those are all good deals. Even the Walker deal (provided you send Walker home) is good in the sense that it creates time for K9 as the fourth big, which might, MIGHT be used to trade him somewhere. The team would also be forced into playing Hawes and Thompson heavy minutes, which I think is a GREAT idea. The problem is that I think the Kings would be tempted to hold on to Walker (versatility!) which would make it very, very difficult to watch the Kings play basketball. Especially if Walker squashed Thompson’s minutes.
by Carl on Jun 27, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can all pitch in...
For a game-day baker’s dozen of eclairs for Fatoine. Give it about 6 games and 20 lbs and he’ll be K9ed for the rest of the season. Problem solved?
by discocricket on Jun 27, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
One more comment
I’m going to say ‘No’ on $17.4 million for three years on Beno. I think Beno is decent to good, but the MLEs have to stop for this team to really rebuild. 2010 could be the year to make a big move, and I don’t want Beno’s $7 million salary cluttering things up. I would offer Beno a 2 year $12 million deal, so as not to screw up the 2010 offseason. My guess is he walks away from that offer. For now, I’ll take a middling guy like Lowry or Crittendon or a little better guy like Felton who makes less money and has a shorter contract.
by Carl on Jun 27, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The more I think about it...
the less I like the idea of resigning Beno. Where does it get us – one spot higher in the draft so we can miss the guy everyone wants by one pick again? It’s not like we’re close to winning anything and Beno wouldn’t be a big trade asset at $6mil/year, so why do it?
by cabz on Jun 27, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if experience/PT is the key..
for our bigs/wings to develop, don’t we need someone to throw them the ball? I can’t say that I wouldn’t prefer Lowry or Crittendon (haven’t seen much of either) but at this point: PG total=O.
by misterbrister on Jun 27, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
can’t we tank just fine with Singletary and a journeyman doing that? I mean, all I really want to see is effort and growth – I think Beno will give the effort, but I don’t think he has any growth in him (and he’s not good enough as it stands now to eventually be a key part of a future playoff run).
by cabz on Jun 27, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
rebuilding is one thing. tanking is another. The latter is not something I’m willing to watch for 82 games.
by misterbrister on Jun 27, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
so starting a 2nd round pg equals tanking?
by cwebb on Jun 27, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
chris quinn
Yes.
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by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a big fan of Felton
WAY too many turnovers
by thelettere on Jun 27, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, I'm glad I called in sick
I’m probably going to spend 800 hours on ESPN’s trade machine
Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com
by Muff209 on Jun 27, 2008 11:18 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
what? no internet at work?
cuz my Boss is getting 0 productivity out of me right now. It’s taken me six hours to fill a PO request.
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by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're filling out PO's
requisition us a PG, you selfish bastard!
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by section214 on Jun 27, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If you work for the state, you're ahead by at least two hours...
Sorry, had to be said.
by Carl on Jun 27, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Artest
is the only appealing piece on our roster worth giving up for.
Felton and Morrison for Artest is a deal both teams should be amenable to.
I also hear the Knicks are offering David Lee for Raymond Felton.
BOOK IT!
by kingme18 on Jun 27, 2008 11:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i just threw up
I’m not that enamored with Felton, so we’d need at least a pick to make that deal interesting.
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by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
though i do like the idea of trading him out of the West. Last thing we need is to worry about him Teeing off one one of the skeleton army four times a year.
by misterbrister on Jun 27, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ron's Leaving Bud
He says that a lot of teams called and he’s surprised and he’s changed his mind completely. Check it on Rotoworld. Here’s the link: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/headlines.aspx?sport=NBA .
I’m so thrilled. The rebuilding is in full motion now.
by HarbirD on Jun 27, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was yesterday
And his agent followed up by saying that he wasn’t opting out.
Thank God we only have a few more days of this nonsense. Then we can get on to the rest of his nonsense.
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by section214 on Jun 27, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Round and round and round she goes
And where she stops, nobody knows!
This actually doesn’t feel like a rollercoaster, it feels like the boatride from Willie Wonka & The Chocolate Factory.
"Boo Lakers! Boo Kobe! Go Kings! Go Giants! Boo Dodgers!" - my 5 year-old daughter - 4/15/08
by otis29 on Jun 27, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's like a big cable knit sweater,
that someone keeps knitting, and knitting, and knitting, and knitting… – Pee Wee’s Ron Ron’s Big Adventure.
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by section214 on Jun 27, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Raymond Felton
He would be perfect for the Kings. He’s only 24 years old. He has a good amount of points and assists (14 and 7). Just a solid young point guard to pair with Martin and Hawes and Garcia as part of our future. Bobcats are shopping him which has been confirmed by their selection of DJ Augustine over Brook Lopez.
Here’s a good deal: Brad Miller+future first for Raymond and nazr Mohammed.
We could also take Morrison or May or Carroll. We could give them Mikki, Sheldon or even John Salmons. I think the Miller deal would work because the Bobcats are in to win it all and they could pair Miller with Emeka to form a good frontcourt. what do you guys think?
by HarbirD on Jun 27, 2008 11:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good deal?
Is Felton really worth Brad AND a first? I honestly haven’t watched the guy play that much, but I get the feeling that would be a horrible trade for us (unless we’re trying to tank and get the 1st pick next year).
by cabz on Jun 27, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think we'll need
all the first rounders we can get in the next couple years.
by misterbrister on Jun 27, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think he is. He’s got a terrible jump shot and shots a low percentage. And I fear that he may have reached his ceiling already. Still, a 14 ppg and 7 apg isn’t too bad of a thing to have. It wouldn’t be too different from what Beno can give us, given a full year of experience on the team.
by Reggie Nation on Jun 27, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't get it
why you guys are so enamored with felton? there’s a reason a) he’s being shopped around the league
b) bobcats just took a 5-11 guy to replace him
btw that tar heels team turns out to be bretty bad… felton, may, williams, mccants – all crappy to average pros
by cwebb on Jun 27, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's cheap
Felton is cheap and at least in the general area of being as good as Beno. Felton is making something like $7 million over the next two years. Beno is going to demand $18 million over the next three. The drop off from Beno to Felton isn’t that great, but the cash savings and 2010 free agent opportunities are.
by Carl on Jun 27, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something to think about...
How do you think this team is received when a team coached by Larry Brown, featuring Ron Artest, shows up in Detroit. Could be pretty entertaining
by vfettke on Jun 27, 2008 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somehow I don't think so
Bobcats are shopping him which has been confirmed by their selection of DJ Augustine over Brook Lopez.
So they’re going to trade their starting PG so the can go into the season starting a rookie? I’d guess Felton isn’t going anywhere for a while.
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by Kfan in Korea on Jun 27, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just want to throw it out
K-Mart loves jason Thompson. says he fills a need and is very athletic and all that other good stuff. This changed my look of K-Mart.
by HarbirD on Jun 27, 2008 11:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait
I mean it changed my view on Jason Thompson
by HarbirD on Jun 27, 2008 11:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Bucks have put Mo Williams on the trading block. I’m not sure what we can offer, but we have to try something. If Beno leaves, Anthony Carter is available as well. He’s not ideal, but given the minutes he did a serviceable job last year for the Nuggets.
by Reggie Nation on Jun 27, 2008 12:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Williams
5 years, $43.3 million?
Next.
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by section214 on Jun 27, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that sums up
why the Bucks are the Bucks. Give a guy $50+ million and then decide the next year that you need to move in a different direction.
by misterbrister on Jun 27, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell,
they nearly went to war with China over Yi, and now look
by vfettke on Jun 27, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To Hammond's defense (new Bucks GM)
he didn’t draft Yi or resign Williams. But it’s his mess to clean up now.
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by section214 on Jun 27, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I made the reply without looking into William’s contract situation. But on seconds thoughts, “next” is right.
by Reggie Nation on Jun 27, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take Carter over Felton
higher FG% + lower turnover ratio = higher basketball IQ
Plus he shoots much less – I want Martin and our other future cornerstones getting the shots – not the bandade point guard.
by thelettere on Jun 27, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OVERLOADED
I’m really starting to think Petrie knew what he was doing with the JThompson pick – we’ll see. BUT, now we’re overloaded at 4-5 although two of them are unfortunately not useful: K-9 – stopped being an ‘energy guy’ a couple of years ago and has been exposed and of course SAR who unfortunately will just never be the player he once was. I HOPE SAR will do the right thing and take medical retirement which would free his $$ up. Otherwise, depending on Ron, Salmons and MM have to be on the trading block. I remind everyone that (unless I’m mistaken) MM contract is not fully gauranteed past December this year? Or is it next year?
Anyway, in two years we went from being too small to being too big (sigh).
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jun 27, 2008 12:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
on the medical retirement. That would be a blessing. Does he still get paid in that scenario?
by misterbrister on Jun 27, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SAR
Yes, he gets paid, insurance covers it and the salary would be exempt from the salary cap.
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jun 27, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SAR 2
Its up to him of course, he may still think he can play. . . .
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jun 27, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SAR 3
His status for Med retirement would have to be verified by a doctor – but I think that could happen if he wanted it to.
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jun 27, 2008 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would the Bobcats
do this?
R. Felton & S. May
for
S. Williams, Q. Douby & a future 2nd Rounder?
I’m not familiar with May’s current health status, but Williams could be a valuable contributor off the bench in Brown’s system.
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by sroufe on Jun 27, 2008 1:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
sign me up
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by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MikkiM
I really like the guy as a team player and back-up. If only he had better hands…. (sigh)
I think Charlotte may (may) go straight up on Mikki for Felton(?) Thier salaries are very close.
I do wonder if Sheldon Williams might not arrive this year motivated – with something to prove. His fiance’s play might inspire him. He is nearly immovable defensively when he takes good position.
Myself, I’d be fine with giving Beno a three year MLE. I don’t think 3/4 of a season warrants anything more.
I also am definately inthe Ron Artest Camp and think we should offer him a three year extension at 10-11 mil with a team option on the third year + a 1 mil bonus this year for signing the extension.
He’s VERY tradable if necessary at that rate and contarct setup.
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jun 27, 2008 1:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The numbers don't add up
Myself, I’d be fine with giving Beno a three year MLE. I don’t think 3/4 of a season warrants anything more.I also am definately inthe Ron Artest Camp and think we should offer him a three year extension at 10-11 mil with a team option on the third year + a 1 mil bonus this year for signing the extension.
You want to pay Beno the MLE to play 3/4 of the season. He played 65 games and wasn’t even signed until Nov. 1.
You want to pay Artest $10-11 mil plus a signing bonus, He played 57 games last season. Even with his 7 game suspension taken off that total, he was injured or sick more than Beno was.
Not saying Beno deserves more than MLE money, but slapping the “fragile player” label on him is unfair.
BTW, KMart played in 61.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 27, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he meant
that we only have the 3/4 of last season that he played to judge his value to the squad.
I might also add that Jessica Alba is a championship piece, if he thinks Ron is too, more power to him. ;p -Kfan in Korea
by kangsfan on Jun 28, 2008 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jun 29, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, cool
But I gotta say that your avatar creeps me out a little.
Sorry.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 29, 2008 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's puss...
...in boots.
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by section214 on Jun 29, 2008 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know what happened
I also don’t agree with giving Artest an extension. Although, a 2 year deal with a team option for a third would certainly be better than a longer deal. Personally, if he doesn’t opt out, I think that the Kings need to trade him to a contender for an expiring and a couple of future first rounders. He bogs down the offense, and stunts the development of Martin, Garcia, and Salmons. Salmons is a really good player when he starts.
I also think they should try to trade Miller. I think that either Miami or Orlando might have interest, as they are both short a big man. Perhaps Miller for Corey Blount, filler, and next year’s first. That would give the Heat a starting rotation of Chalmers, Wade, Marion, Beasley, and Miller. Off the bench would be Haslim, and Cook.
With Orlando, it would be Miller for Tony Battie, Brian Cook, and next year’s first rounder.
By trading Miller, it would let Hawes start, therefore developing his game, start Moore at the 4 still, and back those two up with Shelden Williams and Jason Thompson. Shelden Williams’ contract is up after next year, and we need to see if he can turn into something.
In regards to the point guard situation, I would sign somebody cheap for one year, and let him, Singletary, and Douby compete for the starting spot in the fall. We drafted Douby to be a point guard, so, once again, we need to see if he can do it.
Goals for the comeing season:
Develop youth for future years
Don’t take on any long contracts (be ready to bid in 2010)
Pick up additional first round draft picks,
And suck, so that we may finally have a high draft pick, with the potential to land a true
star
by rory_sayer on Jun 27, 2008 1:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Trades
As discussd by others, Orlando is a great fit for BMiller – but who wants what they have? Miller has only this year and next on his contract so i don’t see how we get any better at all.
If you want to clear up more minutes for Hawes then finding a trade for MM is the better option. He was the one taking Hawes’ minutes. BMiller needs to coach Hawes another 1/2 year at least. Miller at the trading deadline – thats another matter (though I like him and am a Purdue Alum) but just looking at his salary number and wanting to trde it for equivelant salary number for yet MORE unusable PFs – no.
We need another guard – think guards.
Orlando wouldn’t get us a high draft pick either – think BAD teams.
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jun 27, 2008 2:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
PG Curerntly Unrestricted Free Agetns
Chris Duhon (my pick…if the price is right)
Earl Boykins
Sam Cassell (on the downside of career but still can make some noise)
Anthony Carter
Lindsey Hunter
Flip Murray (athletic but dont know if he has all the skills)
Smush Parker
Jason Williams (white chocolates return? hmmm probably not)
Darrell Armstrong
Jannero Pargo
Carlos Arroyo (played well as a started, however not off the bench)
Damon Stoudamire
There are a couple really sexy options here. Dont get me wrong Beno played well but I dont think he is worth the 6-8 mil he wants I think last season was more fluke than fact so lets look at what else is out there.
by xtremedyme on Jun 27, 2008 2:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Pargo
does seem like a Petrie guard. Anybody know more about whether or not he plans on staying in New Orleans?
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by sroufe on Jun 27, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd offer a 2 year, $5 million deal (with the 2nd year a team option) to
Duhon, Arroyo, and maybe J-Will (just for old times sake)
I was thinking along the lines of Miller for Nazr/Felton, too, but we’d have to make the future 1st lotto protected for the next three years or so. Not sure if the ‘cats go for that, if NY really is dangling Lee.
Other options include: dealing Ron for BJax (also for old times sake, and he’s expiring) and a future pick from Houston (or Brooks if they’ll do it) or one of the many PGs riding the pine in Portland, Seattle, or Memphis
by LPKingsFan on Jun 27, 2008 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anthony Carter
I said it above, and I want to expand on it here. No, he’s not the sexy pick – but none of the above, besides perhaps Pargo or Arroyo (who are not going to be available) are point guards I want moving forward.
What we need for the next year or two is a bandaid, preferably a pass-first point guard with maturity and a high basketball IQ. Carter qualifies on all counts.
by thelettere on Jun 27, 2008 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to trade Miller to a bad team
but they wouldn’t want him, because Miller isn’t the type of player that would turn them into a contender. However, teams who have no cap room, and aren’t looking for it because they have a good team assembled may be more interested. Because adding a good piece like Miller, just might push them into legitimate contention. And while an early to mid 20’s pick is not ideal, it is better than nothing. In this draft, it could’ve landed us Darrell Arthur, DeAndre Jordan, Chalmers, Chris Douglas Roberts, Donte Greene, Ante Tomic, Nicolas Batum… I mean there is still a lot to get mid, to late in the first. We recently have gotten Martin, Garcia, and Wallace with late picks, and there are plenty of notable talents out there, like Parker, Ginobli, Boozer, Howard. I’d be happy with a Mikki Moore trade too, but I don’t see any way that he nets us a 1st round pick. That’s all.
by rory_sayer on Jun 27, 2008 2:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You never know.
MM is still the trade that gets Hawes more minutes and could land us a late first next year. What, Hawes and MM as the two centers? (nope)
I still think Hawes needs Miller around for at least half the season and I DO think Miller has some value, he distributes/assists like no other center in the half court, would be a better rebounder next to a real solid PF and can score. 15/9 guy last season, nothing to sneeze at. We’re only out of love because the teams isn’t winning. He really could be someones missing piece.
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jun 27, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather keep Mikki
Great energy player off the bench, which was originally the role he was signed for, as a back-up to SAR. But then Reef had the knee surgery which forced Mikki into the starting position since K9 somehow landed in somebody’s dog house. Having him as energy/veteran presence behind JT would be nice.
I still think Petrie has positioned SAR to take medical retirement, if you read his comments from about a month ago. It sounds like Petrie gave him a deadline.
I agree about Miller staying to mentor Hawes.
Trading K9 and Williams (who right now has a team-option contract and could be waived) would be my first choice, but I don’t know if it’s doable.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 27, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
is it just me ...
but wouldn’t a trade revolving around garcia for lowry be the most common sense here? that seems like a pretty simple idea where both teams would benefit
by blankonino on Jun 28, 2008 12:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
TRADE CISCO? GOD NO!!!
Trade a proven 6th man for someone who hasn’t been able to prove he’s an NBA PG?
Oh hell No!
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jun 29, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you...
and why do so many people have a hard-on for the Grizzlies 3rd and 4th string PGs? Did either Lowry or Crittendon show much in HS/College? If so, I sure missed it. Have they shown anything in the NBA? I don’t have league pass, so someone will have to fill me in on that one.
by cabz on Jun 29, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lowry and Crittenton
Lowry has shown some promise. Crittenton was talked about quite a bit around here prior to last year’s draft, though I still don’t know if he will wind up being a 1 or a 2. Their mass appeal lies in their small contracts – not a lot of risk there.
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by section214 on Jun 29, 2008 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im going to keep it real with yall.. Quincy Douby is my good friend and i’ve been watching him work out in Vegas preparing for the summer league this month.. The kid has been working hard & has been really focusing on becoming a play maker… His ball handling skills is getting better and better.. He’s learning how to use his quickness to get to the basket and hitting open players for jumpers and lay-ups. He’s been striving hard to really be a contributor next season.. I personally feell yall wont be disappointed in him if he’s really given the chance to show what he can do next year.. I’m not saying he’s the answer to the PG issue, but he can be a solid contributor off the bench next season.. Such as Eddie House was for Boston this past year…
by JustaRealDude on Jun 28, 2008 2:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s good to hear. We like QD, and we want him to succeed here.
by Ziller on Jun 28, 2008 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quincy Douby
Note to JustaRealDude – I think that the overwhelming majority (if not everyone) here would love to see summer league footage that shows that Quincy Douby could run the point in the NBA. My God, if he showed some point skills with his shooting ability? Rajon Rondo? Rondo this!
Quincy Douby has been a great guy in the community, and from everything I’ve read (and not read) he is a great teammate. The only question has been can he fill a role that he has not been asked to fill before.
To this point in his career, I wonder how things would have turned out for Douby if he had walked into Monta Ellis’ s situation at Golden State. Or Vujacic’s situation in L.A. Alas, he is here, being asked to adjust his game for the needs of the team. I wish him (and us) all the luck in the world.
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by section214 on Jun 28, 2008 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Douby isn't in anybody's minds a questionable guy in terms of character
What they doubt is his ability to transistion into the NBA as an effective small hybird SG/PG.
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by pookeyguru on Jun 28, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come to think of it
The most questionable character on the Kings at this point, other than Ron-Ron, is Spencer Hawes himself.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jun 28, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea who can honestly say they'd vote Republican and keep a straight face?
I might also add that Jessica Alba is a championship piece, if he thinks Ron is too, more power to him. ;p -Kfan in Korea
by kangsfan on Jun 28, 2008 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because you are a character
doesn’t mean you have character. - The Wolf, Pulp Fiction
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by section214 on Jun 28, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmm, good coffee.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 28, 2008 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The wink and the nod
should have earned Keitel the Oscar.
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by section214 on Jun 28, 2008 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So many great
actors and performances in that movie. And it still holds up well. Just a great flick.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jun 28, 2008 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
We all TRULY hope that he can be an NBA asset. He’s GOT to be able to play some point.
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jun 29, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably too much
since he’s restricted and I’d imagine the Cavs would match any reasonable offer.
by LPKingsFan on Jun 28, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he's not really a PG
If he were the Cavs would not have trying to land Bibby.
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by section214 on Jun 28, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might be wrong
but from what I saw of Bayless this year, he’s not really a PG either. I’m just trying to think of guys that I would actually want the Kings to still have when they’re playing the Brooklyn Nets in the 2011 Finals. But if the Cavs are going to pay him, I guess it’s a moot point.
by furious.d on Jun 28, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
I’m not sure, but having Booby on the floor with Douby would sure be heaven for Jerry Reynolds.
by cabz on Jun 28, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good shit cabz
I might also add that Jessica Alba is a championship piece, if he thinks Ron is too, more power to him. ;p -Kfan in Korea
by kangsfan on Jun 28, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
double boobage?
Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA
by iashwash on Jun 28, 2008 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
chalupas!
...and still no answer. I says we vote. What are the options again?
a) Sign Beno for too much
b) Sign someone for too little (Carter, Williams)
c) Sign no one.
d) Kill Perie.
e) Trading for Hinrich.
Wait, how’d that fourth one get in there?
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by iashwash on Jun 28, 2008 8:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
forgot some:
f) trading for Felton
g) trading for Portlands armies
h) sign Shaun Livingston (up yours, Clippers!)
i) D-League?
j) Douby?
k) Aaron Brooks?
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by iashwash on Jun 28, 2008 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Like Portland's Rodriguez
He appears expendable, but maybe if he got a decent shot with some real playing time he could turn into another Calderon. He would definitely come cheap and it would be a better opportunity for him than he will get anywhere else. In what little I’ve seen of him he looks like a fairly decent ballplayer.
That would give you Singletary, Rodriguez and Cisco as your point guards. Doesn’t look like much on paper, but the last I checked, the games aren’t played on paper.
The Kings brass is already hinting at basically the same thing without Rodriguez or another point guard.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jun 29, 2008 1:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
REACHING for PG
If we’re all desperately looking for a ‘reach’ at PG, maybe it should be clear to us that there’s no obvious answer out there.
That leaves us with either trying the youngster, giving QD another shot and playing Cisco some – or Beno.
I’m fine with Beno for 3yrs MLE. I think its what makes sense. I’m also fine with the Singletary kid from Virginia (who won all those awards!) and QD and Cisco for now.
If the answer isn’t clear – don’t make a mistake we’ll regret.
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jun 29, 2008 12:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
and if we happen to have a crappy enough season to draft Ricky Rubio, so be it.
by furious.d on Jun 29, 2008 2:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
if we could could make a trade for mike conley by taking memphis’s bad contracts for mikki, sheldon and possibly Cisco.
by mattym on Jun 30, 2008 9:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was ready to dismiss this out of hand
But it’s not terrible for them, especially if they like Lowry/Crittendon. That said, it’s a longshot at best
I imagine that they’re planning on playing Mayo at the 2 with Gay at the 3 (now that Miller’s gone), so I don’t think they have “4 PGs” like some people are saying . . . but this isn’t horrible for them. You still have to wonder if they’re going to try and get Beasley with Mayo as the centerpiece of their offer to Miami, but Mike Miller was reportedly part of that offer, so who knows if Riley bites or not.
I’d have to look at the numbers to see how feasible it really is for this deal, but the idea ain’t half bad.
by smgmatt on Jul 1, 2008 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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