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Find the Kings a Point Guard

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(From the FanPosts. -TZ)

The only point guard on the Kings roster is last night's second round draft pick Sean Singletary.  What should the team do to get another point guard?

Do the Kings re-sign Beno for three to five years at mid level exception of $6 million per year?  Is it better to save the $18 million to $30 million in salary to sign a less expensive point from the free agent market?  Should the Kings look at trading with teams overloaded with point guards, like Memphis and Portland?

Since we know how well Petrie listens to our draft advice, let's help him find the Kings a point guard.

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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Come on Carl

We have Douby! And Cisco! How many more PG’s do we need??

"Boo Lakers! Boo Kobe! Go Kings! Go Giants! Boo Dodgers!" - my 5 year-old daughter - 4/15/08

by otis29 on Jun 27, 2008 10:42 AM PDT   0 recs

hahahaha

I want us to sign Beno for five years at five million, and try again in the draft next year.

If the Clips get their grubby hands on Beno, then I vote sending BradBaby to the Bulls for Thomas/Noah and Hinrich. Throw in Shelden if we must.

If neither of that works, I vote we shoot Kevin Pritchard and steal one of his fifteen point guards. Rodriguez is a sexy name.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:01 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Pritchard will rob us blind....

We can’t possibly negotiate with this dark knight. He’ll 3 card monte us for all our draft picks.

by discocricket on Jun 27, 2008 11:03 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

that's why we can't negotiate.

I said shoot him. Shoot him dead. Bang. Bang. Gimme dat point guard.

[no, I have not gotten over the draft]

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:05 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

also

The Lowry-for-Shelden idea that was proposed somewhere would be awesome, in my consternations.
If we get Lowry, I vote we get us some White Chocolate on the cheap-o signed for like 3 years at 3 mill per to start, and they each play 25 minutes till Lowry shines, or we try again in the draft next year.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:04 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Love that idea....

...IF they want the absentee Landlord.

by discocricket on Jun 27, 2008 11:06 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Who would the target teams want?

What could we give CHI or CHA or MEM to get their young guns? Anyone want a dude with a fivehead and K-9?

by discocricket on Jun 27, 2008 11:01 AM PDT   0 recs

I don't understand this

People frequently comment “recd” or “+1”, but they don’t actually rec… which reduces the odds the person gets the green aura of fame. No to single you out disco, but I’m kind of lost as to why it’s been happening.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks for the note

Still figuring out the software.

by discocricket on Jun 27, 2008 11:21 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Aaaah,

Hit the little actions thing to the bottom of the comment, then you can choose whether to flag or rec. I assume the SBNation guys did it this way (make you do two clicks) so that people don’t accidentally flag and rec.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:29 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

why buy out Walker?

cuz there’s too many fours?

[Link to the joke]

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:16 AM PDT to parent up   1 recs

Didn't need the link...

which is blocked at my work anyhow. What kinda porn site do you get your jokes from?

I love Walker’s comments on why he shoots so many 3’s though – thanks for throwin’ that out there.

by cabz on Jun 27, 2008 11:29 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

...ummm, Sports Illustrated porno

MMMM, Gason Giambi’s Stache…..

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:30 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Perhaps...

it was blocked after discussion broke out about how the Yankees break out of their hitting slumps.

by cabz on Jun 27, 2008 11:31 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

let's see....

How does one make their wood rise faster and hit harder, and still have the endurance to go 180 games a season?

The sad part is, this: Canadian Sports Journalism at Its Finest

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:34 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

All good deals

Those are all good deals. Even the Walker deal (provided you send Walker home) is good in the sense that it creates time for K9 as the fourth big, which might, MIGHT be used to trade him somewhere. The team would also be forced into playing Hawes and Thompson heavy minutes, which I think is a GREAT idea. The problem is that I think the Kings would be tempted to hold on to Walker (versatility!) which would make it very, very difficult to watch the Kings play basketball. Especially if Walker squashed Thompson’s minutes.

by Carl on Jun 27, 2008 11:21 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

We can all pitch in...

For a game-day baker’s dozen of eclairs for Fatoine. Give it about 6 games and 20 lbs and he’ll be K9ed for the rest of the season. Problem solved?

by discocricket on Jun 27, 2008 11:23 AM PDT to parent up   1 recs

One more comment

I’m going to say ‘No’ on $17.4 million for three years on Beno. I think Beno is decent to good, but the MLEs have to stop for this team to really rebuild. 2010 could be the year to make a big move, and I don’t want Beno’s $7 million salary cluttering things up. I would offer Beno a 2 year $12 million deal, so as not to screw up the 2010 offseason. My guess is he walks away from that offer. For now, I’ll take a middling guy like Lowry or Crittendon or a little better guy like Felton who makes less money and has a shorter contract.

by Carl on Jun 27, 2008 11:26 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The more I think about it...

the less I like the idea of resigning Beno. Where does it get us – one spot higher in the draft so we can miss the guy everyone wants by one pick again? It’s not like we’re close to winning anything and Beno wouldn’t be a big trade asset at $6mil/year, so why do it?

by cabz on Jun 27, 2008 11:35 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

if experience/PT is the key..

for our bigs/wings to develop, don’t we need someone to throw them the ball? I can’t say that I wouldn’t prefer Lowry or Crittendon (haven’t seen much of either) but at this point: PG total=O.

by misterbrister on Jun 27, 2008 11:36 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well...

can’t we tank just fine with Singletary and a journeyman doing that? I mean, all I really want to see is effort and growth – I think Beno will give the effort, but I don’t think he has any growth in him (and he’s not good enough as it stands now to eventually be a key part of a future playoff run).

by cabz on Jun 27, 2008 11:42 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

rebuilding is one thing. tanking is another. The latter is not something I’m willing to watch for 82 games.

by misterbrister on Jun 27, 2008 11:43 AM PDT to parent up   1 recs

Man, I'm glad I called in sick

I’m probably going to spend 800 hours on ESPN’s trade machine

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on Jun 27, 2008 11:18 AM PDT   1 recs

what? no internet at work?

cuz my Boss is getting 0 productivity out of me right now. It’s taken me six hours to fill a PO request.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

If you're filling out PO's

requisition us a PG, you selfish bastard!

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by section214 on Jun 27, 2008 11:20 AM PDT to parent up   1 recs

Artest

is the only appealing piece on our roster worth giving up for.

Felton and Morrison for Artest is a deal both teams should be amenable to.

I also hear the Knicks are offering David Lee for Raymond Felton.

BOOK IT!

by kingme18 on Jun 27, 2008 11:34 AM PDT   0 recs

i just threw up

I’m not that enamored with Felton, so we’d need at least a pick to make that deal interesting.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 11:36 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

agreed

though i do like the idea of trading him out of the West. Last thing we need is to worry about him Teeing off one one of the skeleton army four times a year.

by misterbrister on Jun 27, 2008 11:41 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ron's Leaving Bud

He says that a lot of teams called and he’s surprised and he’s changed his mind completely. Check it on Rotoworld. Here’s the link: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/headlines.aspx?sport=NBA .

I’m so thrilled. The rebuilding is in full motion now.

by HarbirD on Jun 27, 2008 11:40 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That was yesterday

And his agent followed up by saying that he wasn’t opting out.

Thank God we only have a few more days of this nonsense. Then we can get on to the rest of his nonsense.

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by section214 on Jun 27, 2008 11:42 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Round and round and round she goes

And where she stops, nobody knows!

This actually doesn’t feel like a rollercoaster, it feels like the boatride from Willie Wonka & The Chocolate Factory.

"Boo Lakers! Boo Kobe! Go Kings! Go Giants! Boo Dodgers!" - my 5 year-old daughter - 4/15/08

by otis29 on Jun 27, 2008 11:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's like a big cable knit sweater,

that someone keeps knitting, and knitting, and knitting, and knitting… – Pee Wee’s Ron Ron’s Big Adventure.

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by section214 on Jun 27, 2008 11:48 AM PDT to parent up   2 recs

Damn

That broke me.

by smgmatt on Jun 27, 2008 2:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Raymond Felton

He would be perfect for the Kings. He’s only 24 years old. He has a good amount of points and assists (14 and 7). Just a solid young point guard to pair with Martin and Hawes and Garcia as part of our future. Bobcats are shopping him which has been confirmed by their selection of DJ Augustine over Brook Lopez.

Here’s a good deal: Brad Miller+future first for Raymond and nazr Mohammed.

We could also take Morrison or May or Carroll. We could give them Mikki, Sheldon or even John Salmons. I think the Miller deal would work because the Bobcats are in to win it all and they could pair Miller with Emeka to form a good frontcourt. what do you guys think?

by HarbirD on Jun 27, 2008 11:36 AM PDT   0 recs

Good deal?

Is Felton really worth Brad AND a first? I honestly haven’t watched the guy play that much, but I get the feeling that would be a horrible trade for us (unless we’re trying to tank and get the 1st pick next year).

by cabz on Jun 27, 2008 11:37 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

i think we'll need

all the first rounders we can get in the next couple years.

by misterbrister on Jun 27, 2008 11:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don’t think he is. He’s got a terrible jump shot and shots a low percentage. And I fear that he may have reached his ceiling already. Still, a 14 ppg and 7 apg isn’t too bad of a thing to have. It wouldn’t be too different from what Beno can give us, given a full year of experience on the team.

by Reggie Nation on Jun 27, 2008 12:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

i don't get it

why you guys are so enamored with felton? there’s a reason a) he’s being shopped around the league
b) bobcats just took a 5-11 guy to replace him

btw that tar heels team turns out to be bretty bad… felton, may, williams, mccants – all crappy to average pros

by cwebb on Jun 27, 2008 12:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He's cheap

Felton is cheap and at least in the general area of being as good as Beno. Felton is making something like $7 million over the next two years. Beno is going to demand $18 million over the next three. The drop off from Beno to Felton isn’t that great, but the cash savings and 2010 free agent opportunities are.

by Carl on Jun 27, 2008 12:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Something to think about...

How do you think this team is received when a team coached by Larry Brown, featuring Ron Artest, shows up in Detroit. Could be pretty entertaining

by vfettke on Jun 27, 2008 12:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Somehow I don't think so
Bobcats are shopping him which has been confirmed by their selection of DJ Augustine over Brook Lopez.

So they’re going to trade their starting PG so the can go into the season starting a rookie? I’d guess Felton isn’t going anywhere for a while.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jun 27, 2008 1:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Just want to throw it out

K-Mart loves jason Thompson. says he fills a need and is very athletic and all that other good stuff. This changed my look of K-Mart.

by HarbirD on Jun 27, 2008 11:54 AM PDT   0 recs

Wait

I mean it changed my view on Jason Thompson

by HarbirD on Jun 27, 2008 11:55 AM PDT   0 recs

The Bucks have put Mo Williams on the trading block. I’m not sure what we can offer, but we have to try something. If Beno leaves, Anthony Carter is available as well. He’s not ideal, but given the minutes he did a serviceable job last year for the Nuggets.

by Reggie Nation on Jun 27, 2008 12:00 PM PDT   0 recs

Williams

5 years, $43.3 million?

Next.

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by section214 on Jun 27, 2008 12:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

that sums up

why the Bucks are the Bucks. Give a guy $50+ million and then decide the next year that you need to move in a different direction.

by misterbrister on Jun 27, 2008 12:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hell,

they nearly went to war with China over Yi, and now look

by vfettke on Jun 27, 2008 12:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

To Hammond's defense (new Bucks GM)

he didn’t draft Yi or resign Williams. But it’s his mess to clean up now.

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by section214 on Jun 27, 2008 12:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I made the reply without looking into William’s contract situation. But on seconds thoughts, “next” is right.

by Reggie Nation on Jun 27, 2008 12:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed

Good player, but he makes way too much money for way too long.

by Carl on Jun 27, 2008 12:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd take Carter over Felton

higher FG% + lower turnover ratio = higher basketball IQ

Plus he shoots much less – I want Martin and our other future cornerstones getting the shots – not the bandade point guard.

by thelettere on Jun 27, 2008 4:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

OVERLOADED

I’m really starting to think Petrie knew what he was doing with the JThompson pick – we’ll see. BUT, now we’re overloaded at 4-5 although two of them are unfortunately not useful: K-9 – stopped being an ‘energy guy’ a couple of years ago and has been exposed and of course SAR who unfortunately will just never be the player he once was. I HOPE SAR will do the right thing and take medical retirement which would free his $$ up. Otherwise, depending on Ron, Salmons and MM have to be on the trading block. I remind everyone that (unless I’m mistaken) MM contract is not fully gauranteed past December this year? Or is it next year?

Anyway, in two years we went from being too small to being too big (sigh).

eternal skeptical optimist

by lietothegirls on Jun 27, 2008 12:48 PM PDT   0 recs

agreed

on the medical retirement. That would be a blessing. Does he still get paid in that scenario?

by misterbrister on Jun 27, 2008 1:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

SAR

Yes, he gets paid, insurance covers it and the salary would be exempt from the salary cap.

eternal skeptical optimist

by lietothegirls on Jun 27, 2008 1:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

SAR 2

Its up to him of course, he may still think he can play. . . .

eternal skeptical optimist

by lietothegirls on Jun 27, 2008 1:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

SAR 3

His status for Med retirement would have to be verified by a doctor – but I think that could happen if he wanted it to.

eternal skeptical optimist

by lietothegirls on Jun 27, 2008 1:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Would the Bobcats

do this?

R. Felton & S. May

for

S. Williams, Q. Douby & a future 2nd Rounder?

I’m not familiar with May’s current health status, but Williams could be a valuable contributor off the bench in Brown’s system.

"... if you watch the way I play, I'm not going to be flashy. I'm just going to get it done. I led the league in free throws made per game. There's nothing soft about that." - Speed Racer

by darknight on Jun 27, 2008 1:01 PM PDT   0 recs

sign me up

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by iashwash on Jun 27, 2008 1:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

MikkiM

I really like the guy as a team player and back-up. If only he had better hands…. (sigh)
I think Charlotte may (may) go straight up on Mikki for Felton(?) Thier salaries are very close.

I do wonder if Sheldon Williams might not arrive this year motivated – with something to prove. His fiance’s play might inspire him. He is nearly immovable defensively when he takes good position.

Myself, I’d be fine with giving Beno a three year MLE. I don’t think 3/4 of a season warrants anything more.

I also am definately inthe Ron Artest Camp and think we should offer him a three year extension at 10-11 mil with a team option on the third year + a 1 mil bonus this year for signing the extension.

He’s VERY tradable if necessary at that rate and contarct setup.

eternal skeptical optimist

by lietothegirls on Jun 27, 2008 1:13 PM PDT   0 recs

The numbers don't add up
Myself, I’d be fine with giving Beno a three year MLE. I don’t think 3/4 of a season warrants anything more.

I also am definately inthe Ron Artest Camp and think we should offer him a three year extension at 10-11 mil with a team option on the third year + a 1 mil bonus this year for signing the extension.

You want to pay Beno the MLE to play 3/4 of the season. He played 65 games and wasn’t even signed until Nov. 1.

You want to pay Artest $10-11 mil plus a signing bonus, He played 57 games last season. Even with his 7 game suspension taken off that total, he was injured or sick more than Beno was.

Not saying Beno deserves more than MLE money, but slapping the “fragile player” label on him is unfair.

BTW, KMart played in 61.

TickTickTickTickTickTick

by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 27, 2008 4:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think he meant

that we only have the 3/4 of last season that he played to judge his value to the squad.

I might also add that Jessica Alba is a championship piece, if he thinks Ron is too, more power to him. ;p -Kfan in Korea

by kangsfan on Jun 28, 2008 12:34 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yep

eternal skeptical optimist

by lietothegirls on Jun 29, 2008 12:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ok, cool

But I gotta say that your avatar creeps me out a little.

Sorry.

TickTickTickTickTickTick

by LeaguePassAddict on Jun 29, 2008 9:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He's puss...

...in boots.

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by section214 on Jun 29, 2008 10:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Shelden

Shelden will never, ever see the floor. He’s now the 5th big man behind Brad, Spencer, Mikki and Jason Thompson. If I were him, I’d be on the phone right now demanding to be traded or released.

by Carl on Jun 27, 2008 5:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't know what happened

I also don’t agree with giving Artest an extension. Although, a 2 year deal with a team option for a third would certainly be better than a longer deal. Personally, if he doesn’t opt out, I think that the Kings need to trade him to a contender for an expiring and a couple of future first rounders. He bogs down the offense, and stunts the development of Martin, Garcia, and Salmons. Salmons is a really good player when he starts.

I also think they should try to trade Miller. I think that either Miami or Orlando might have interest, as they are both short a big man. Perhaps Miller for Corey Blount, filler, and next year’s first. That would give the Heat a starting rotation of Chalmers, Wade, Marion, Beasley, and Miller. Off the bench would be Haslim, and Cook.

With Orlando, it would be Miller for Tony Battie, Brian Cook, and next year’s first rounder.

By trading Miller, it would let Hawes start, therefore developing his game, start Moore at the 4 still, and back those two up with Shelden Williams and Jason Thompson. Shelden Williams’ contract is up after next year, and we need to see if he can turn into something.

In regards to the point guard situation, I would sign somebody cheap for one year, and let him, Singletary, and Douby compete for the starting spot in the fall. We drafted Douby to be a point guard, so, once again, we need to see if he can do it.

Goals for the comeing season:
Develop youth for future years
Don’t take on any long contracts (be ready to bid in 2010)
Pick up additional first round draft picks,
And suck, so that we may finally have a high draft pick, with the potential to land a true
star

by rory_sayer on Jun 27, 2008 1:45 PM PDT   0 recs

Trades

As discussd by others, Orlando is a great fit for BMiller – but who wants what they have? Miller has only this year and next on his contract so i don’t see how we get any better at all.
If you want to clear up more minutes for Hawes then finding a trade for MM is the better option. He was the one taking Hawes’ minutes. BMiller needs to coach Hawes another 1/2 year at least. Miller at the trading deadline – thats another matter (though I like him and am a Purdue Alum) but just looking at his salary number and wanting to trde it for equivelant salary number for yet MORE unusable PFs – no.
We need another guard – think guards.
Orlando wouldn’t get us a high draft pick either – think BAD teams.

eternal skeptical optimist

by lietothegirls on Jun 27, 2008 2:00 PM PDT   0 recs

PG Curerntly Unrestricted Free Agetns

Chris Duhon (my pick…if the price is right)
Earl Boykins
Sam Cassell (on the downside of career but still can make some noise)
Anthony Carter
Lindsey Hunter
Flip Murray (athletic but dont know if he has all the skills)
Smush Parker
Jason Williams (white chocolates return? hmmm probably not)
Darrell Armstrong
Jannero Pargo
Carlos Arroyo (played well as a started, however not off the bench)
Damon Stoudamire

There are a couple really sexy options here. Dont get me wrong Beno played well but I dont think he is worth the 6-8 mil he wants I think last season was more fluke than fact so lets look at what else is out there.

by xtremedyme on Jun 27, 2008