On J-Thrill
Does Scott Howard-Cooper know something we don't?
From Sacramento and Miami and every surreal place in between comes the reality that the Kings and representatives of Jason Williams, if not Williams himself, will probably be talking within a few days to explore the possibility of his return to the Kings as a free agent.
The Kings are prohibited from contact with free agents and any public comments until the market opens tonight at 9 Pacific time. Aware that Williams is an exposed nerve of a topic around Sacramento, and that it could send the wrong message to Beno Udrih, the Kings are hesitant to discuss the scenario even off-the-record.
But it has a chance of happening. Not a great chance, for a few reasons that have nothing to do with the past, but an actual chance. It's real.
The problem I'd have with a J-Thrill reunion is that he's not going to get guys like Kevin Martin, Francisco Garcia, Spencer Hawes and Jason Thompson any easy shots. Most of his speed seems expired, opponents will slack off him and let him shoot threes, and his defense is nowhere near helpful, based on the last two years of work.
If Sacramento's really going the stopgap route -- Williams, Chris Duhon, Carlos Arroyo would qualify -- I'd hope the acquisition would be able to bring one of two things to the table: make the game easier for the other scorers through passing or shooting, or play hellcat defense to explore whether a Kevin Martin team can be above-average on defense. Duhon's a great defender, but actually takes thing off the table on offense and doesn't seem too devoted to his trade.
My dream scenario: Watch Philadelphia get caught up in the Josh Smith-Elton Brand-Andre Iguodala heat, and try to swoop on Louis Williams with the mid-level. He's 21, he's getting better every year, and he's way under the radar. Of course, he's pretty deep into combo guard territory, but we were clamoring for Jerryd Bayless, what, like four days ago?
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Jason Williams
I think Kings fans that would like to see Jason Williams return are a lot like Detroit Lions fans that would like to see Barry Sanders return, as though he has been frozen in time and will be the same player that he was 10 years ago. As TZ notes, he has slowed way down.
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by section214 on
Jun 30, 2008 8:57 AM PDT
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Nice second or third option but try to sign Beno first.
If J-Will is the starting point for the Kings next year I won’t be pissed but it certainly isn’t the big off-season play I was looking for. Just remember that signing Williams means that some one else will be starting at least 20 games and maybe more at the point. I would prefer to use Salmons and whatever to get a young guy like Felton. If MJ had Salmons in the fold, it would make dealing G. Wallace a lot easier.
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by jjham15 on
Jun 30, 2008 9:14 AM PDT
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If this happens...
We’ll know Geoff Petrie and Elgin Baylor switched brains.
This has to be the most idiotic idea I’ve seen in quite some time. If Geoff Petrie really thinks the way to rebuild is by using the MLE a 31 year old power forward and a 32 year old point guard in consecutive offseasons he needs to be taken outside the barn and put out of his misery.
There are better options available. Louis Williams could be a possibility either through the MLE or an Artest sign and trade (Philadelphia was rumored to be interested in Ron at the deadline). Duhon sucks, but whatever. At least he’s young. Arroyo is better, but not as young.
Otherwise, if Jason Williams wants to take the veteran’s minimum, fine, whatever. But if he takes time away from any young point guard we have on the roster it would be a ridiculous waste.
by nbrans on
Jun 30, 2008 9:31 AM PDT
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not a great fit.
Fpr all the reasons TZ elucidated, I can’t get too excited about a J-Will reunion. He has probably matured to a degree, but I don’t think he’s the kind of veteran that is going to provide leadership or other intangibles that might make up for diminished skills. Sure, he does not play the same herky-jerky style we grew to love (and sometimes hate) after the lock-out, but that’s due as much to diminished health as anything. I’d think that if you are going to add veterans as stopgaps, you probably want them more in the Corliss Williamson variety (to note the latest retread that did not exactly set Kings fans on fire) instead of J-Will. I don’t if there is anyone that much better out there that the Kings realistically might acquire, but I’m not sure I want Sean Singletary carrying J-Thrill’s bags around… if only so he doesn’t get caught at the airport with whatever is inside.
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by Reges on
Jun 30, 2008 9:36 AM PDT
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The luster would quickly wear off
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on
Jun 30, 2008 9:39 AM PDT
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I hear Vlade might also be available...
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by Exhibit G on
Jun 30, 2008 10:31 AM PDT
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Yeah. let's not forget
The whole racist screaming fit at the warriors game. I have personal knowledge of Williams cussing out a 60 year old woman. I’ve heard of Williams screaming at people on the golf course and I heard another rumor of him cussing out a child’s grandfather at the Granite Bay Wendy’s because the kid asked for an autograph one too many times. I have seen Williams pretending not to hear kids asking for his autograph at a Monarchs game.
Feel free to disregard any of this, as only one of these things was documented in public. Jason Williams is an asshole. I’d rather root for a lesser player that’s a better person.
by Carl on
Jun 30, 2008 10:37 AM PDT
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You read my mind with Louis Williams
I’ve watched him a while last year because i had a fantasy team with Iguadala on it and when given an oppurtunity he would dish out some assists. With my estimations, given thirty minutes I think he could average like 13 points and 5 assists.
by HarbirD on
Jun 30, 2008 11:28 AM PDT
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Haven't seen him play
I haven’t seen Louis Williams play, but the age and numbers look great.
by Carl on
Jun 30, 2008 11:53 AM PDT
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I think...
....it’s be worth it just to bring back the J-Will/Randy Moss “Good Ol’ Boys” Gatorade commercial.
by Red Reign on
Jun 30, 2008 3:08 PM PDT
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I Love the idea of Louis Williams
I posted, and said so under Cooper’s article on the SacBee.
I think it could be plausible to pry him away from Philly with a full midlevel. He’s only 21, so it could be a steal.
by rory_sayer on
Jun 30, 2008 6:36 PM PDT
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I wouldn't mind the idea of Louis Williams at all
And apparently I’m not alone. No J-Will, and no Beno at 5 years anymore. I would have agreed to that in April, maybe, but I won’t agree to it now. If you’re goal is 2010 (which I’ve said many times that’s a stupid goal) don’t sign a guy like Beno to 5 years and then take the chance of having a worse player 3 years down the road than what you had the first year in the contract. Hello, Kenny Thomas?
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by pookeyguru on
Jun 30, 2008 11:03 PM PDT
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