Maybe Ron-Ron Should Stop Emailing Reporters?
by Ziller on Jul 1, 2008 3:55 PM PDT
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The warm feelings lasted a long, long time.
Artest told ESPN.com on Tuesday that he wishes now he had opted for unrestricted free agency, like Brand and Davis, instead of electing to play out the final year of his contract with the Kings next season at $7.4 million.
Artest also conceded that his long-term future is likely not in Sacramento, saying via e-mail: "I don't see myself with [the] Kings beyond 2008-09.
"I think I made the biggest mistake by staying in my contract and I have to live with it," Artest said. "I had some misleading information [in making the] decision on not opting out. [But] I still thank G-d for all his blessings and being able to play basketball and help people."
Who misled Ron? His agent? Don't worry, Ron-Ron: it's not because Mark Stevens has shady motives, it's because you're his only client and he seems to know less than he think he does.
Don't worry, really. Either the team overperforms and you're on a winner, or Geoff Petrie will deal you to a playoff team by the deadline. No frets, man.
Also: I have no clue why ESPN.com editors or Marc Stein himself would bleep the word "God." Damn Heathens!
UPDATE, 6:09 p.m.: I now know why the 'o' would be omitted in the word 'God.' Thank you to Josh for setting me straight. I apologize to Stein and anyone I may have offended. I'm just a dumb Catholic.
UPDATE #2, 6:10 p.m.: By 'I'm just a dumb Catholic,' I mean to say 'I am dumb and a Catholic,' not that Catholics are by definition dumb. I apologize to His Holiness and Denis Leary.
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LOL!!!
Shit, it must be Tuesday…Artest is longing to be somewhere else. See you all tomorrow at the same time!!
Kevin Pritchard stole my daughter's lunch money.
by otis29 on Jul 1, 2008 3:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I've said it before and I'll say it again
I don’t know what we’re going to write about around here once Ron leaves. The kid breaks me up. What a wacky funster.
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by section214 on Jul 1, 2008 4:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It was good Ron that gave bad Ron bad advice
LPA will tell you I called this though. Artest looked at Davis and Brand and thought, “Dang, I’m worth more than both of them.” Is there anyone out there now who thinks we shouldn’t trade Artest? He is about one thing. The money. Trade him to a team that covets him and don’t ever look back!!!!!!
"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie
by SavageBeast on Jul 1, 2008 4:02 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Well said
What Artest doesn’t understand, and to this end this is where his agent failed him, is that despite lack of physical cap space, it’s possible for other teams to swing sign & trades for both Davis and Brand. Very few teams are willing to invest those kinds of dollars for Artest on the market like they are for Davis and Brand.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 1, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's true, I tell ya
He said it. I was there. We laughed. Dr. Pepper came out his nose.
TickTickTickTickTickTick
by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 1, 2008 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 1, 2008 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Got my finger all sticky too.
"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie
by SavageBeast on Jul 1, 2008 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
Ron-Ron found out that Circuit City is closing some of the Sacramento stores.
Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.
by otis29 on Jul 1, 2008 4:03 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL
You Sac fans are a riot.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
by blzrfan on Jul 1, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have reason to be
We’re from Sacramento. We don’t get 75 degree days in July.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 1, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Ron wanted to be traded
He just hurt his value by opening up his mouth. Or maybe it made him even more interested in securing a deal for 2009.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 1, 2008 4:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
One other point
Didn’t Ron say how much he loved Sac? I mean wasn’t he on the radio shows changing everyone’s opinion of him? What happened to that guy?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 1, 2008 4:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He stopped taking his Ritalin
Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.
by otis29 on Jul 1, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not his fault
Carmichael Dave mistook Ron’s pills for jujubees.
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by section214 on Jul 1, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too
It explains my volatility in arguing mundane things.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 1, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A new day
Uh ya he loved us yesterday and probably will love us tomorrow and hate us monday. It’s Ron being Ron ie. CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!
by Samhuff999 on Jul 1, 2008 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
What does he have to gain from shooting his mouth off to the media now? If he has a beef he should take it up with his agent. Mouthing off now only diminishes his value.
by KingsFan on Jul 1, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trying to force a trade?
It’s beyond comedy at this point. If you wrote it as a prediction 12 months ago, people would have called you crazy.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 1, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shhh...
You’re not supposed to use the word cr@zy in Ron Artest threads – he doesn’t like it.
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by section214 on Jul 1, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I volunteer to be stabbed first
Or at least have a kitchen pot thrown at my Hummer windshield.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 1, 2008 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What that he would change his mind every 10 days? (And many times between that)
I think it’s important to remember that this seemed to be a bad market, and that Brand/Davis’ decisions were unusual in their own right. But it isn’t totally out-right shocking either, but then again, neither guy is Artest. Artest is just mad that he isn’t on the market for a big contract, and that’s why he’s popping off. (Anybody who bothered to read these 4 lines knows how I feel about the back & forth of Ron with his contract.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 1, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Step right up
and buy those season ticket packages, fans. Ron Artest is back and he’s happy to be here!
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by section214 on Jul 1, 2008 4:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps the marketing department
could use this to sell a little excitement and a few Clash Packs.
The scab is off, the wound bleeds again.
-lietothegirls
by KK on Jul 3, 2008 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whelp
So much for long-term Ron I am sure we won’t find a person to spend that money on.
by moproblemz on Jul 1, 2008 4:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Ron is just pissed
that GP didn’t call him at 9:01 with an extension offer?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 1, 2008 4:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I, for one, was under the impression that Ron Ron was censoring himself
I mean, it’s important to be image conscious in times like this right?
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by JakeTheSnake on Jul 1, 2008 4:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The ironic thing Jake
For Ron that is image conscious. Nice slogan btw.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 1, 2008 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Jesus H. Christ
The Goddamned deadline was LAST NIGHT. How can you flip flop 180 degrees every twelve hours?
Dear Geoff Petrie,
Put those suitcases down and cancel your flight to Maui. I’m sorry, but your offseason isn’t over in early July like it has been the last couple of years. We’re real sorry that you have to delay your summer vacation, but Artest has gone off the reservation again. He says he doesn’t want to be here less than ONE DAY after agreeing to stay with the Kings. It’s time to make a move. I know, I know YOUDONTWANNA!!!! but you don’t have a choice. You MUST trade Ron Artest. Now.
Sincerely,
Carl
by Carl on Jul 1, 2008 4:46 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Carl you're classic
And I 100% agree with you.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 1, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ron Artest does not do 180 degree turnarounds!
The Goddamned deadline was LAST NIGHT. How can you flip flop 180 degrees every twelve hours?
He only does 100 degree turnarounds!
The scab is off, the wound bleeds again.
-lietothegirls
by KK on Jul 3, 2008 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
...
Dude’s gotta vent to someone media is a TERRIBLE choice, but seriously…
If you thought you just lost out on several million dollars how would you feel? Dude can’t play ball forever, he’s gotta have money to enjoy life after the game.
by dkons21 on Jul 1, 2008 4:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't lost out on anything
Would he make more somewhere else if he opted out? Doubtful. If he plays his ass off for the Kings next year and keeps his nose clean, he will make up whatever money he just “lost”.
Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.
by otis29 on Jul 1, 2008 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They didn't censor Ron
I think Ron actually said G 2 the D like a homey. Writer didn’t know how to put that in words.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
by blzrfan on Jul 1, 2008 4:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey guys
Ron just e-mailed me and said that after recieving a $25 Cinnabon gift certificate from Sign Man he’s changed his mind again and is happy to be here.
by rbiegler on Jul 1, 2008 4:56 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Oh my lord
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 1, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another Classic!
The scab is off, the wound bleeds again.
-lietothegirls
by KK on Jul 3, 2008 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amick: Artest flip flop based on a conversation with Petrie this morning
Sam Amick says that Artest, his agent and Petrie talked this morning. Artest was apparently under the impression that the Kings were going to give him an extension. Read the whole post.
You can’t say this isn’t an interesting offseason.
by Carl on Jul 1, 2008 5:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the heads up Carl
Stevens, who was unaware of Artest’s comments, said “I’m not even near a TV, so I can’t even respond to something I haven’t seen….Whatever his reasons for feeling that way is, well we’ll just see. I’m not going to respond to it.” – Sam AmickThat’s my favorite part of the quote. And my 2nd favorite is the “impression” that the Kings would re-sign Artest to a long term deal. I’ve mentioned this before, and I’m going to have to dig up the “diary” where it was posted under, but I think that merits mentioning, and everything that was said by Joe Maloof. That’s where I believe this is stemming from.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 1, 2008 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To that end
Here was the original FanPost submitted by Mityt. The actual conversation was had on the Daily Dish when JA Adande subbed for Chad Ford. I’ll try to find it, but I’m willing to bet it’s too old now.
Basically for those who don’t know, Joe essentially hinted that there would be an extension down the road for Artest if he didn’t opt out of his contract.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 1, 2008 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another point to be made by Smgmatt--which included an excellent entry on something related
Hitting the circuit?I was listening to Joe Maloof on Jim Rome’s radio show sometime last week (pushing their appearance on “Oprah’s Big Give” or something) and he was saying the same things (paraphrased quotes):
- “Gavin loves him”
- “We hope Artest doesn’t opt out”
- “If he doesn’t opt out, we’d like to offer him a long-term deal”—I found this interesting because he never mentioned offering Artest a long-term deal if he did opt out
- “We don’t think he’s going to opt out, but that’s up to Artest and his agent”
Not exactly definitive, but he sounded very serious about keeping Ron Ron around, if possible. If nothing else, he’s in their plans.
Furthermore, I got the same impression as Pookey about his lack of interview skills as well, and find it even more interesting that he apparently said pretty much the same things and still didn’t sound more comfortable/confident (full disclosure: I haven’t listened to the JA interview yet).
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 1, 2008 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
Stevens, who was unaware of Artest’s comments, said "I’m not even near a TV, so I can’t even respond to something I haven’t seen….Whatever his reasons for feeling that way is, well we’ll just see. I’m not going to respond to it." – Sam Amick
He doesn’t make enough off of Ron to buy an IPhone or Blackberry? No wonder there’s been so much “miscommunication” between the parties.
The scab is off, the wound bleeds again.
-lietothegirls
by KK on Jul 3, 2008 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ron is as bi-polar as it gets. Now he has a full season of being booed on the road and at home, while also being underpaid. I can’t think of a more deserving homo-sapien.
by LiquidPolio on Jul 1, 2008 5:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Labeling him a Homo-Sapien is being kind in my view
But to each they own I suppose.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 1, 2008 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Thoughts
My thoughts were pretty long-winded, so I made it a fan post. My position is that Ron ain’t crazy, kind of a continuation of Muff’s post that blzrfan linked above.
Right as I posted it, I saw Carl’s note about how it was based on a convo between GP and Artest, so maybe I’m not as clever as I thought, but screw it! :)
"Matt Lauer, up on NBC. You look like a girl, don't talk to me" -Ron Artest
by Exhibit G on Jul 1, 2008 5:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh Ronald....
...you so crazy!
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jul 1, 2008 5:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Can our owners
Let our GM do his job without talking to the press about contract issues? Buffoons….
by discocricket on Jul 1, 2008 5:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Should've waited on that Beno deal,
Baron just signed with the clips for 65 mill.
by moproblemz on Jul 1, 2008 5:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You know what ...
Ron can go screw himself. Seriously. I am no longer entertained by his shenanigans. If I want to be entertained I’ll go play video games or watch a movie. What I want out of my Kings is to see a championship, or in the meantime to see a potential path to a championship. As long as Ron is going back and forth with this crap it perturbs the team both with management and with the coaching staff / players. It needs to end one way or another real soon.
by thekangarooster on Jul 1, 2008 6:20 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Credit to Baron Davis
It’s a credit to Baron Davis for taking a pay cut to go to another team. Whenever people say, “What guy would ever pass up guaranteed money to play for another team?” Baron Davis would.
by Carl on Jul 1, 2008 6:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Still not enough
I’m still not sure if this is enough to get the Clippers into the playoffs. Adding Davis and losing Maggette looks to me like a .500 team, and maybe slightly better, assuming Brand is healthy.
by Carl on Jul 1, 2008 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pay cut?
65 million versus 17 million?
Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.
by otis29 on Jul 1, 2008 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where do I sign up
for that pay cit?
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by section214 on Jul 1, 2008 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny
When you guys find out where you sign up, go tell Ron. I heard he’s dissapointed
by eduardo_m7 on Jul 1, 2008 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
$13 million per year, versus $17 million for this year. Not that tough.
by Carl on Jul 1, 2008 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but
he’s guaranteed 65 million over the next 5 years instead of 17 million for just this year. So he has an additional 48 million dollars guaranteed to him, in other words his salary “decrease” just made him more than the value of beno’s entire contract.
by Viliphied on Jul 1, 2008 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and you said
What guy would ever pass up guaranteed money to play for another team?"
he “passed up” negative 48 million dollars. Not a tough choice.
by Viliphied on Jul 2, 2008 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
There is a very good chance he’s making more money over the term of the Clipper deal than he would have had he played out the final year of his contract with GS then went shopping. His own history of injury trumps all here, IMO.
Just saying Carl, you are applying altruistic motives here, but I’m thinking money is a huge factor in this decision.
Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.
by otis29 on Jul 2, 2008 5:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's assuming he would have gotten nothing next season
by Carl on Jul 2, 2008 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
It’s simply stating that he may not have gotten a 4-year $48M deal next season, which is by no means a guarantee had he waited.
by smgmatt on Jul 2, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not only that
He gets to play with a player of Elton Brand’s caliber for the next 5 years conceivably. Why wouldn’t you go that route?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 2, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't heard much
from the “Keep Artest” camp. Strange.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 1, 2008 6:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The keep Artest camp trumps up when things are going well for Ron
When things are going poorly for Ron, or someone really criticizes him in poor taste in the pro Ron camp’s view, then it’s egregious. I’m beginning to believe Ron’s fans are the same people who think Paris Hilton is a genius.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 1, 2008 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For sure
And they sure were active last night when he didnt opt out at the deadline. Interesting.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jul 1, 2008 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yuppers. exactamundo.
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by iashwash on Jul 2, 2008 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stop being a Puerta Rican
And start speaking Latin for godsakes!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 2, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PuertO Rican, fool
Don’t dip on what you jealous of, paisano.
Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA
by iashwash on Jul 2, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!!!!!!
I wish I could remember who said that, I think it was Dan Quayle, but he actually said why aren’t any of these people, in a Latin American country, why weren’t they speaking latin? (It was on VH1’s “40 dumbest celeb quotes of all time.”)
(I’ll let you get away with the paisano remark for now.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 2, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Save Ron Artest!
I had to head out of town this morning, sorry I missed the fun! I still think Ron CAN be saved from himself. I still think he’s a top 5 SF in this league. I don’t know exactly what petrie and the maloofs are planning – but I hope its an extension at reasonable money once the team shows it is close to being a winner – OR a trade for some REAL assets.
If someone mentions S Marion (cancer) in a Kings uniform again – I’ll puke!
If someoe mention marbury in Kings uniform – I start cleaning my gun.
Now, you want a trade?
MIAMI/Clippers – do a sign and trade Brand for Marion
Miami/Kings – Artest + KT for Haslem and Beasley +
That lets Miami win now – ala Celtics, and gives us a SF for today and a GREAT SF/PF for tomorrow.
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jul 1, 2008 7:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the stuff that blows my mind
How is Marion a cancer and Ron isn’t? If Marion is a cancer, then I think Ron is too. If Ron isn’t a cancer, then I don’t think Marion is either. I doubt the Clips will be moving Brand, since they signed Baron. I think they are trying to win now. I agree that talent wise Artest is good, but I don’t see him as a part of our long term future.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 1, 2008 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't attempt to understand it
Just nod your head and say “un huh”. It’s like watching Paris Hilton describe Wall Street Fortune as a book, only it’s not that obviously out there. (Out there being code for dumb btw.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 1, 2008 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he's dumb
and I don’t think he’s irrational. But for the life of me, I can’t follow his thought process on this issue. Guess I never will.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 1, 2008 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
While it was just mentioned above
It must be asked again, how is Marion a cancer and Ron not a cancer? While I am definitely not a Marion fan, I think you’d have a hard time winning this argument with anyone.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jul 1, 2008 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marion
Was such a disruption in the locker room on a Championship Caliber Team for two years – was so unhappy because HE wasn’t the star and getting paid the most – that PHX risked (and i think lost) everything on a 36 yr old, slow, past his prime, prima donna.
Unhappy playing with Steve nash, unhappy playing with Dwayne Wade.
He’s already ruined a contender – what would he do here?
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jul 1, 2008 8:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, I doubt he would
jump in to the stands and fight a fan.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jul 1, 2008 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that's different from
Ron on Indiana, how? They were a contender and he got suspended for a season, asked for time off to promote his rap album and after the team stood by them he demanded to be traded, ruining a contender.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 1, 2008 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
stood by him(not them)
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 1, 2008 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IS THAT
That was a terrible mistake – four years ago! But Marion Is That What you want our young players exposed to? Ron at least REALLY wants to win.
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jul 1, 2008 8:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If you don't use the [+reply] button
we have no clue who you’re replying to. I’ll assume it was me.
I don’t want Marion, but I don’t want Artest either. I’m just trying to understand how Ron is so much better to have on this team than Marion would be.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 1, 2008 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stand by the dumb comment
After running around the circle you’re still in the same spot.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
by pookeyguru on Jul 1, 2008 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I think it was me
I think this is my favorite Ron defernder response, “The Malace at the Palace was X years ago, move on”. Really? You expect people to have forgotten that ever happened? Really?!? That action single handedly killed a contender, and they havent yet recovered, or really started to. Why dont you ask some Pacer fans if they’ve let it go, because I promise you they havent. 10 years from now people wont talk about Ron’s (albeit amazing) defense, or his work ethic, they’ll talk about what a crazy b&stard he was.
Do not misconstrue my response, I in no way defend Marion or his premadonna ways, but he’s never destroyed a franchise.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jul 1, 2008 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give Ron
[Kfan]
A feeling that he has a chance to Win – and he’ll run through walls. Marion and many others could care less. Do you want our young players exposed to “I could care less’?
I want my players willing to run through walls to win. I believe (I hope) he can be saved from himself and think its Veeery hard to get marque players here in SAC.
Give him a team he can believe in.
(I changed directions in the middle of that last post seeing the responses)
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jul 1, 2008 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
thanks for clearing up your thought process. I don’t agree that what Ron brings to a team offsets the distractions. So, we’ll have to agree to disagree.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 1, 2008 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
true, but...
With Ron, you never know if it’s the right wall he’ll be running through. It could be the wall of your house, the wall between players and coaches, or the wall that keeps fans safe from players.
by misterbrister on Jul 2, 2008 6:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ron really wants to win
You say that as though most NBA players-elite athletes who have competed all their lives-don’t want to win. The problem is that Ron only wants to win sometimes, when he’s not distracted by his music, his aches, his ego, or people booing him. And he wants to be the one who gets the win. Being a smaller part of a win is not good enough for him. he has to be the man. And when his team isn’t winning, he wants to pout. He doesn’t understand that you can’t win every game, but you still have to go out there on give your all. He reminds me alot of a five year old. One minute he is wrapped around your leg telling you how much he loves you. The next minutes he’s kicking and screaming on the floor because you won’t give him another popsicle. He is not crazy or bipolar. He is just imature. But he is not the key cog in a championship team.
"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie
by SavageBeast on Jul 1, 2008 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You usually grow out of immature
Selfish is forever.
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jul 1, 2008 8:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but you usually grow out of it when your like 23 or 24. What makes you think
Ron will ever grow up? This is a grown man with kids.
"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie
by SavageBeast on Jul 1, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure
But he is a great player who wants to Win First. I just have hope.
Until this last week i thought there were some really positive signs. maybe a backslide – maybe hopeless.
But there is real value there.
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jul 1, 2008 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that there is value
I’m just not sure Ron is as valuable to the Kings as other pieces we might be able to get for him. It’s GP’s job to find out.
"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie
by SavageBeast on Jul 1, 2008 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can't afford
To not keep him – or get real value.
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jul 1, 2008 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kobe, Artest, and Marion
are all within 18 months of each other age wise, so what’s your point again?
The scab is off, the wound bleeds again.
-lietothegirls
by KK on Jul 3, 2008 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he shows
He’ll never be happy here – thats true.
Give it a little time, Petrie will – and let the urge grow on other teams.
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jul 1, 2008 8:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
God
God-God-God-God-God.
Just so you know, it doesn’t bother all Jews (just those of us going to hell).
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by section214 on Jul 1, 2008 10:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hmmm... we can trade places
Eternal life with Biggie, PAC, and every Classic Rock Band…. or eternal life with my neighbors and their gospel music.
Hmmm, the Big G and I have some talking to do.
Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA
by iashwash on Jul 2, 2008 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ron's comments
I don’t see what the big deal is. Ron flip flopping on a decision he made? Greek told me about this and I just kind of laughed. It’s Ron being Ron. He doesn’t see himself with the Kings in the future? Guess what, neither do I. Granted it probably hurts his trade value, but considering the best we were being offered was a pick and Kleiza, it couldn’t have been too high to begin with.
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by Muff209 on Jul 2, 2008 6:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ron Artest Brain ( Burp )
When i Look at Ron Artest I Think of Dr. Amen a Doctor who knows about Brains i saw him on DVD and is Really Good , I Honestly Feel ( Burp ) the man has a Whole in his Brain Causing him to Blur out words ( Burp ) with out Thinkin. I Mean maybe there is ( Burp ) something wrong with the man and that he should get a Brain Scan. and if he does have a Hole in his Brain we should Trade him Immidiately before ( Burp ) the other Teams Find out. We have to keep it a Secret because the Value may Go ( Burp ) Down.
by Beer_man on Jul 3, 2008 12:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's called Tourette's,
and I believe you suffer from a form of it too…just sayin’.
The scab is off, the wound bleeds again.
-lietothegirls
by KK on Jul 3, 2008 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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