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Brad Miller Suspended Five Games, Probably for Weed

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From the NBA:

The NBA announced today that Brad Miller of the Sacramento Kings has been suspended without pay for five games for violating the terms of the NBA/NBPA Anti-Drug Program. Miller’s suspension will begin with the first game of the 2008-09 NBA regular season for which he is eligible and physically able to play.

F*cking beautiful.

According to a cursory review of the CBA, this would indicate a third weed offense.

UPDATE: The Bee has Miller's statement.

"I want to apologize to my family, teammates, fans and entire Kings organization, " Miller said in a statement released by the team. "I made a mistake. It was an error in judgment and I'm very sorry. I regret it deeply. It's something I won't and can't take lightly. I hope to bounce back from this as a better person and I'm excited about the upcoming season."

Chin up, homey. Life's grand. Just stop smoking, or at least ask Josh Howard for advice on beating the tests.

(By the by, Grant Napear ripped Howard to high hell when all that noise went down. I imagine he'll have a softer tone with respects to his buddy Brad.)

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A little sleepy

Brad does look a little sleepy sometimes. I don’t necessarily have a problem with the smoking as much as I do with him getting suspended for it. The upside is that Hawes gets more PT, and it wasn’t Artest this time!

by Carl on Jul 10, 2008 2:55 PM PDT   0 recs

To clarify

If you’re going to smoke weed – fine. Just don’t get caught.

by Carl on Jul 10, 2008 2:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh yeah, Spencer Hawes, opening night starter!

The silver lining.

And I tend to agree on the “just don’t get caught” tip.

by Ziller on Jul 10, 2008 3:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

2 issues

The law, and the fact that it’s still illegal. Until it’s legal to smoke you can’t risk your career to toke. Just that simple. That being said the fact he’s being busted for pot is just beyond stupid that I can’t even describe it at this point. He should have known better, but he wouldn’t be busted for alkiehol either. Stupendous consequences of living in a dumb ass kountry.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 10, 2008 3:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

stupid is as stupid does

It’s obviously spelled “kuntry” – what the hell is “kountry”? Redneck.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jul 10, 2008 3:18 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

My bad Dawgey Doggie

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 10, 2008 4:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Dumb, dumb, dumb

Is it too much to ask millionaire athletes to exercise a little intelligence and/or self control?

(sigh) Apparently.

TickTickTickTickTickTick

by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 10, 2008 3:05 PM PDT   0 recs

Now for the basketball side now that the personal side is analyzed

This definitely hurts trying to trade Brad before the season starts. I don’t think it will really hurt a mid-season trade, but this is just another dumb thing in a long line of dumb things in the last 5 years for this team. It’s getting rather stupid to the point of covering your ear’s and screaming:” Shut the fuck up with all this crikeyness.” Soapbox, again, unfortunately, is safely tucked away, for now.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 10, 2008 3:12 PM PDT   0 recs

Totally agree

I have no idea what Brad’s trade value was prior to this revelation, but I was hoping the team was working to move him. Now you really have to hope he comes in and plays well for a while, so you can trade him towards mid-season.

Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.

by otis29 on Jul 10, 2008 3:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Not sure how quickly the Kings'd trade Miller anyway

esp with the fact that he sat out the end of last season with injury, the Kings don’t have any real starter bigs outside of him. This certainly doesn’t help the case, but I’m not sure it closed the door nor sealed the lack of deal.

That said, I’ll sound off just like everybody else: Idiot. If somebody was paying me 12 million a year, and said I can’t eat chocolate, what would I do? Stop eating chocolate. What do I next? When I retire a multi-millionaire, I’ll buy a house made out of chocolate and running Milk in it’s pipings, lock the door, and eat my way out for the next three years. C’mon Brad, be real. Step your game up.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jul 10, 2008 3:31 PM PDT to parent up   1 recs

Another day, another drama.

But I doubt that it would significantly reduce a trade possibility. Shoot, didn’t Boston just work out Darius Miles? Didn’t the Kings find a trade for Webber who had one knee and a 5 game suspension for drugs and a three game suspension for lying to a Grand Jury? Isn’t Josh Howard’s trade value still pretty freakin’ high (no pun intended!), even Christian Laettner was tradeable after his five gamer.

For the record, I don’t smoke but I don’t hate on people who do…there are many many worse things humans can do. A few that come to mind: abusing spouses and/or children, abusing animals, lying (not of the little white variety), stealing (large or small), terroristic attacks.

I am completely unhappy to come home tonight to read this news (more freakin’ drama), but clearly, there are worse things we humans are capable of doing.

More concering to me is that the above mentioned dunderheads have violated their work contracts at least three effing times before serious action was taken against not only them, but their employers and their fans. Maybe the league should announce each violation as it occurs and then, after strike three, make them play all those games and just forfeit their salaries (hah!).

Yeah, I had to google the NBA drug suspensions. I find the timing curious for both Webber and Miller. I wish we knew when each test occurred since Miller’s was announced in the off season and Webber’s was announced in February 2004. Did both guys think that because it was either the off season or they were out with injuries that it was cool to violate? Miles’ is also weird since he’s currently out of the league anyway. Just weird.

If somebody was paying me 12 million a year, and said I can’t eat chocolate, what would I do? Stop eating chocolate. What do I next? When I retire a multi-millionaire, I’ll buy a house made out of chocolate and running Milk in it’s pipings, lock the door, and eat my way out for the next three years

Seriously funny shit, that’d be my decision too. At least I hope it would be, I admit to being a chocoholic and hope that I’d have that kind of will power to resist until retirement!

Hi, my name is KK and I’m a chocoholic.

I also wonder if Josh Howard has been tested this off season and if there will be more news to follow on that front. To quote LPA, “TickTickTickTickTickTick“

Your Sacramento Kings: Another day, another drama.

by KK on Jul 10, 2008 8:01 PM PDT to parent up   1 recs

Let it grow Let it grow

Let it blossom Let it growwwwww….......

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 10, 2008 8:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh! Is that what that lyric means?

I am seriously naive. I always thought he was singing about love…of another human. I never thought about weed or poppies when I listened to this song. Thanks for ruining my memories, Pook. j/k.

Also forgot mention AI, Charles Oakley and untold others in my previous list of dunderheads.

Your Sacramento Kings: Another day, another drama.

by KK on Jul 10, 2008 8:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well I'm sure it means several things

Whether it’s a love ode to Patty Boyd, and there were a few of them (Layla one of my least favorite Clapton songs ironically), and Wonderful Tonight (ironically one of my favorite), I truthfully do not know.

I know he was strung out on heroin, and when he made 401 ocean boulevard, he was very into Miami, perhaps because he was reeling from his secret love with Boyd and Dwayne Allman’s death.

That stuff is known. All i know is that it definitely is a kickass song.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 10, 2008 8:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's true,

Clapton is God.

Settle down, people. I meant a rock god and a guitar god and a very flawed human being…just like the rest of us.

and when he made 401 ocean boulevard

It’s actually 461 Ocean Boulevard, I had to pull the disc out of the computer to verify.

Wonderful Tonight is a beautiful and seemingly honest song about people, their foibles, and their ability to connect…unless it’s only about a woman who puts her wasted S.O. to bed and in thanks he writes her song telling her she’s beautiful. I prefer the first interpretration.

Your Sacramento Kings: Another day, another drama.

by KK on Jul 10, 2008 8:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah it is my fault

I’m really tired and haven’t had much sleep. Thank you for the correction.

(And, yeah, I prefer the first interpretation.)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 10, 2008 8:52 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That's why I like you,

you are a hopeless optimist disguised as a curmudgeonly pessimist.

And why I’ll overlook some of your less than reasonable Stern rants, but not all. I get you on your hatred of Stern as an individual, I just don’t like it when you extend it to encompass an entire racial/religious group negatively.

Lord, I’ve done so much wrong, but please give me strength to carry on.

Sleep well, Pookey.

Your Sacramento Kings: Another day, another drama.

by KK on Jul 10, 2008 9:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Let's not go there

I’ll say this. If I did anything wrong I lumped in Jewish people with David Stern. That is unforgivable so I was definitely in the wrong there.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 10, 2008 9:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

We just went there

and I appreciate your response. Hello old (internet) friend.

Your Sacramento Kings: Another day, another drama.

by KK on Jul 10, 2008 11:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You forgot

Chest-pumping, emailing reporters, and going into crowds to knock sense into morons on your list of worst things humans can do.

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 10, 2008 11:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't think they were trying to move him

I don’t think the Kings were trying to move Miller anyway. My guess is that they’ll look to move him in a year if he has a good season and Hawes plays well and stays healthy.

by Carl on Jul 10, 2008 3:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

i totally agree

i also don’t think that moving him this offseason is necessarily a good idea anyway. give spencer another year of apprenticeship, then move him to a desperate semi-power either next summer or mid-season 2009-2010 and see if you can’t grab some picks and/or other assets.

by beevenator on Jul 10, 2008 3:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

it just wouldn't be the kings

if we didn’t have a starter missing the first 5-60 games of the season. come on, guys!

by beevenator on Jul 10, 2008 3:25 PM PDT   0 recs

and/or a coach

didn’t want to make E-Muss feel left out or something.

by beevenator on Jul 10, 2008 3:29 PM PDT to parent up   2 recs

lol, +1

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jul 10, 2008 3:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Wait, getting busted on three seperate occasions was a mistake?

Why, whoopsy-daisy. Sorr, Mr. Gov’nor – I know I haven’t paid my taxes any of the last fifteen years, but I swears it’s a mistake. Why, the first year I had incorrect postage, the second year I didn’t lick the stamps proper, the third year my dog ate it….

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jul 10, 2008 3:44 PM PDT   0 recs

Exactly

3rd strike means he wasn’t wise enough to learn his lesson the first two times. Meaning a few positive tests are something that he can, and did, take lightly.

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Jul 10, 2008 4:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

PR Spin on the Last Line

...but at least he’s excited about the upcoming season!

Oh…well…that’s great Brad. Go Kings!

by #12Pick...who? on Jul 10, 2008 4:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Is that with or without Artest?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 10, 2008 4:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Three Strikes

Are these three positive tests over the course of his pro career, or over a particular timeframe? Or did the regs take effect at a certain point? I wanna know how long he’s been kickin it with Uncle Herb. Continuously or recently?

by DustyG on Jul 10, 2008 4:03 PM PDT   0 recs

I don't care

I’m not upset by the usage at all. I’m in the “don’t get caught” camp. But a third strike means (to me) that you know you aren’t able to get away with it, but you kept it up anyway.

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Jul 10, 2008 4:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

These regs

1999 apparently.

Your Sacramento Kings: Another day, another drama.

by KK on Jul 10, 2008 8:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

See "Clark, Keon"

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Jul 10, 2008 4:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Wouldn't be surprised?

How long have you been watching the NBA anyway? There’s a drug policy now for a reason.

Just sayin’.

Your Sacramento Kings: Another day, another drama.

by KK on Jul 10, 2008 9:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Bill Walton.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on Jul 10, 2008 10:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

new vs. old

so Hawes is at school writing a paper to finish getting his degree, while his mentor is rolling papers to get high…

by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Jul 10, 2008 4:22 PM PDT   0 recs

Future looking bright

At least Kings players will be very well educated

by eduardo_m7 on Jul 10, 2008 4:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That's Team Devotion

So there’s no morality clause for NBA players? We can’t void his contract and save $12M this year? Did I actually just ask about morality and the NBA in the same sentence?

by LiquidPolio on Jul 10, 2008 4:24 PM PDT   0 recs

Yes and you should know better

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 10, 2008 4:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Brad... I don't know why..

I idolized you for the last five years or so. I’m as much or more than a redneck than Brad. I love his enthusiasm, I love his game, I love redneck’s who can make it int he NBA. But god man… busted three times? THREE!? Have the intellgence to figure it out after the first or second.

If you don’t agree with laws join forums, write petitions, start a protest. DO NOT DISOBEY THE LAW AND PUT THOUSANDS OF FANS AND YOUR EMPLOYER BEHIND YOUR PRIORITIES. Dear god, I make 5.94 cents an hour after taxes, from which I pay all my bills, (thankfully split with my girlfriend who also makes next to nothing). If you gave me 12 million a year I would give up damn near anything, the internet, my driver’s license, hell I’d ride the team buss across the country if I was told to.

Brad’s Jersey was the first one I ever owned, back when I had no bills, and I thought wow, this guy is the epidemy of cool. Now his jersey will be the first, and hopefully the last one I ever have to throw away in utter disgust. Hell I might burn the damn thing I’m so pissed.

by dkons21 on Jul 10, 2008 6:59 PM PDT   1 recs

dkons

You da man.

TickTickTickTickTickTick

by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 10, 2008 7:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

maybe you could just smoke it instead in honor of B-Miller.

Simmer down, if we find out the guys baking crystal meth in his Granite Bay mansion then maybe there is something to get concerned about but being 7’ tall often requires pain relief, lets not fault a guy until we know the whole story.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on Jul 10, 2008 7:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd really like to know the whole story too...

Like how you risk 12 million, and respect for drugs? Why do you think I never talk about Webber either? I sure as hell won’t eat at his restaurant. And screw Josh Howard too.

These guys live the life of absolute luxury. They have the best doctors around, you telling me he couldn’t get some perfectly legal happy pills? Dude couldn’t splurge and have a cheese burger instead of the normal nutritional diet? How about some beer, wine, or other alcoholic beverage.

Since no one has brought this up yet (though maybe you have I’m heading to bed after this post ZzZz) There is a huge difference in my opinion, between losing your mind (Artest brawl), having a hot moment (Brad shoving that Mav), and other things that you might not be mentally strong enough to control.

If he were on an addictive substance, they have rehab for that. He smoked weed, that’s a concious decision. He decided to be an idiot, to put a simple pleasure before his team, and his fans. We’re not even talking about someone who’s had an awful career, that no one respects. We’re talking a guy who just put up his first, and second 20/20 game over halfway through his career. One of the best bounce-backs I’ve ever seen.

I would love to see the “whole story”, Brad do the team a favor and stick to bud-light.

by dkons21 on Jul 10, 2008 8:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The brawl with Josh Howard

Was about whether Redwood Green was better than Kentucky Green. I’m absolutely positive and sure of this. We all should be as a matter of fact.

I still think they kicked it afterwards, watched 15 infomercials and went to KFC to satisfy their munchies. Pot, the drug that unifies rednecks & image conscioius black southern guys for eternity.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 10, 2008 8:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

NBA players have a history of MJ use.

Why do you think they called Robert Parrish “The Chief”? Because he smoked out all the time. It’s not an excuse, it’s reality. These guys are huge, they have arthritis in their early thirties because of their size. Anti-inflammatory’s have cost players their careers and in Alonso Mournings case one of his kidneys. Smoking grass relieves many effects of arthritis without the long term issues of modern medicine. I’m not saying Brad deserves a free pass but lets be realistic here.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on Jul 10, 2008 8:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Serious question,
Anti-inflammatory’s have cost players their careers and in Alonso Mournings case one of his kidneys.

Serious question, is that really why Zo needed a new kidney? As a sometime casual fan of other teams, I have no idea whether or not this is true, but if it is this is news to me.

I really am serious about asking this question since I guess I’d always assumed it was due to excess of one kind or another.

If it’s true, Zo should lead a PSA for warning us little folks about the dangers of taking excessive amounts of anti-inflamatories.

Your Sacramento Kings: Another day, another drama.

by KK on Jul 10, 2008 9:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He had joint pain in his knee's

And the meds caused the disruption of the kidney’s. I’m sure there is medical speculation that smoking mary joo wanna would have helped that. It does have medical use after all doesn’t it?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 10, 2008 10:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So,

maybe Brad had a prescription in California? JK.

Your Sacramento Kings: Another day, another drama.

by KK on Jul 10, 2008 11:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes, very true.

Larry Johnson also has had long term issues do to anti-inflammatory drugs he took for his back issues. These guys need serious medication on a regular basis to keep it all together. If you know any tall guys, they have lots of back, knee and hip issues. The world isn’t built for people over 6-5 or 6-6.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on Jul 10, 2008 10:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's one reason they like being rich

It eases the pain of that.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 10, 2008 10:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You don't need to be over 6"5

to have back issues.

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by KK on Jul 10, 2008 11:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No DD's work just as well for that

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 11, 2008 9:22 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't be stupid!

Apply a weed patch and sell it on EBay to some stoner who will pay too much for it. Then pay off one of those bills you have!

Your Sacramento Kings: Another day, another drama.

by KK on Jul 10, 2008 8:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

it's a five game suspension

for something that MILLIONS of Americans do every day. Get off the high horse.

by misterbrister on Jul 11, 2008 6:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Of course,

Few of those millions of Americans lose nearly $750,000 for firing up…just sayin’.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Jul 11, 2008 7:10 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think the MJ laws in this country

are a joke – while alcohol is basically pushed down our throats constantly. However, it is the law – and maybe millions of people do this every day, but if so, many of them are prioritizing the pot over their jobs.

If I came into work stoned, or had to go take a random and tested positive, I’d be done. My income would be gone, and my family affected.

Brad is lucky – he’s a rich cat and can afford to take the hit. But he’s still a dumbass for doing something ILLEGAL.

Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.

by otis29 on Jul 11, 2008 8:05 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed

But you can drink all night, every night and that’s perfectly OK. As you said, the rules are the rules, even if they make no sense at all.

by Carl on Jul 11, 2008 10:04 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Might get in trouble if you came

into work drunk too. But I agree with your post completely.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jul 11, 2008 5:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Rimshot!
Get off the high horse.

Ha!

by Carl on Jul 11, 2008 10:03 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ha

Just got that!

by misterbrister on Jul 11, 2008 10:58 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Brad takes one for the team

I am told his only goal was to get the Artest “transgressions” out of the spotlight for at least a day. A job well done, in any case.

Maybe we can trade Brad to the Mavs :)

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 10, 2008 7:24 PM PDT   0 recs

Chances are Artest will go on the Carmichael Dave show and tell all of how...

he was smokin out with Brad and paid K-Mart to piss in a cup for him. That guy refuses to have the media attention shine on someone else’s transgressions.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on Jul 10, 2008 7:45 PM PDT to parent up   2 recs

That's cynical JJ

But I like it anyway.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 10, 2008 7:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

What pookey said.

: )

I don’t have to like any of it, but I have to accept that this is our current reality as Kings junkies and NBA fans.

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by KK on Jul 10, 2008 8:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Except that it's true-ish.

Of course CD and “Bill Artest” (not “Ron-Ron”, it was “Bill”, I swear!) had another love fest going on tonight.

Blech.

Your Sacramento Kings: Another day, another drama.

by KK on Jul 10, 2008 11:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

J*sus F*cking C*rist!!!

Not that I mind Spencer Hawes as the opening night center, but wouldn’t it be nice to start one freakin’ season with all five starters healthy and available?

Brad, for all you do, this bud’s for you.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Jul 10, 2008 7:54 PM PDT   2 recs

A classic line from a classic center piece

Welcome to the party old man.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 10, 2008 7:57 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

See:

Webber, Chris
Williams, Jason
Wells, Bonzi
Divac, Vlade
Stojakovic, Predrag
Turkoglu, Hidayet

The’open secret’ in town (and across the NBA) is players smoke. Go figure, huh…

The wise man tells you Where you have fallen And where you yet may fall - Invaluable secrets! The world may hate him. But good men love him.

by Psychrates on Jul 10, 2008 8:15 PM PDT   0 recs

And you just know

that Pete Carill was getting baked.