Artest is talking with ESPN, again, now seeking a trade.

by CAB on Jul 13, 2008 4:52 PM PDT Comment 79 comments

CAB with the find -

Marc Stein has the scoop. Lots of interesting tidbits. Artest is aparently getting the cold shoulder from the Maloofs and no longer feels as if Sacramento is loyal to him. Stein also mentions that the Lakers are hesitant to part with Lamar Odom. He's also become his own agent.

I'd like to think that this is a big developement because he's more or less demanding a trade (I think?, right?, oh wait, he is, I just re-read the title of the ESPN article), but this isn't the first, second or 100th time he's pulled this b.s. on us. I will certainly be uping my daily ESPN and StR visits from 5 times a day to 50 over the next week, but sadly I think I'll end up being dissapointed by Artest, again.

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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Oh and for the record

When it comes to Artest, I have totally lost a grasp on what is, or isn’t significant anymore. If I read this about any other player I’d say this trade was a lock to go down. And even though much of the article has to do with the stance of the Lakers, Jerry Buss and otherwise sane people, Artest’s craziness has infected me a sense of uncertainty that is making me question my own sense of reality.

AK47, SN13, B52, and K9. One guns, Another runs, He fits, while it licks.

by CAB on Jul 13, 2008 5:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Hater

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by section214 on Jul 13, 2008 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Haha, ya

but for what its worth Ron, you did manage to string together the longest, most complete set of dialogue into this most recent correspondence that I have ever witnessed from you. I think this means something.

AK47, SN13, B52, and K9. One guns, Another runs, He fits, while it licks.

by CAB on Jul 13, 2008 5:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Lakers dont want to part with Odom?

Pah-leese. Without Odom coming and K9 going, there isnt even a discussion to be had. I want the 2011 first roundr or next years second rounder on top of it all.

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Jul 13, 2008 5:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

To clarify

A team cannot trade consecutive first round draft picks, and the Lakers just traded two of them to Memphis (2008 & I assume 2010), so the earliest pick they could trade would be 2012, and I don’t know if there are any rules against trading a pick three seasons in away.

by smgmatt on Jul 13, 2008 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

We don't really need Odom for his expiring contract

We don’t even need to include K9. I wonder what LA would think of this trade: Farmar, Walton, Koby Carl for Artest. They solidify a lineup, keeping Odom in it as a 6th man. We get 2 nice backups for the PG and PF positions.

by CloudyEyes on Jul 13, 2008 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well...

Mathmatically you may me correct, but realistically you are wrong. If that trade went through I’d be furious!

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Jul 13, 2008 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Petrie's head

would be spitted on a pike and paraded through the city if this trade is made.

"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."

by ignign*kt on Jul 13, 2008 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Part of trading with the Lakers

Has to be depriving them of something. The Lakers are probably better with Artest than with Odom. But giving them Artest without taking Odom away is just too much for Kings fans to stomach.

by Carl on Jul 13, 2008 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Revenge is so Machiavellian

I don’t want Odom, but I would like to see a useable player. And why the hell would the Kings need Luke Walton? (I still think the delay is finding a 3rd team to find Odom since the Kings don’t really need him.)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 13, 2008 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

ummm

Farmer = pg, Karl = sg, Walton = sf. Farmar is the only player of value, and no PFs.

Also, I second all three previous replies. We’d kill Petrie.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jul 13, 2008 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

in my dreams

Famer and LO for Artest and KT XD

by LivesInSac on Jul 13, 2008 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

in my dreams

mario chalmers, micheal beasely and d wright for Ron Artest and KT. If you’re gonna dream, dream big.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jul 13, 2008 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dream about women, not Artest trades.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on Jul 13, 2008 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

weird

So you’re what people call “normal.” Pleased to meet you.

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by iashwash on Jul 13, 2008 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can't you dream about both?

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 13, 2008 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

at the same time?

by VenomySnicket on Jul 14, 2008 1:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Depends

on the woman involved in the dream.

TickTickTickTickTickTick

by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 14, 2008 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not Sure

Something ‘like’ that isn’t possible. Riley hates rookies, needs to win SOON to keep Wade from opting out….

Beasley and Wright might be doable (forget Chalmers, it opens up a hole they just filled)

eternal skeptical optimist

by lietothegirls on Jul 14, 2008 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Koby Carl

Tough kid who plays with cancer. Nice gunner from long range, too.

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 14, 2008 5:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

in my opinion

Udrih>Farmar, Cisco>Salmons>Walton, Carl> Walton…

I can’t see the logic in getting rid of our second best player, solely to pick up some bench fodder.

by misterbrister on Jul 14, 2008 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not sure about the Udrih>Farmar...

Last season? Sure. As far as talent and potential go, I think that’s questionable. Farmar certainly plays much better defense and attacked the rim well against Boston. I think he’d be a nice piece to have going forward.

by cabz on Jul 14, 2008 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ron being Artest

Making comments that could potentialy devaule himself and compromise the Kings’ ability to deal him. Maybe we should seek counsel from Indy Cornrows on how to deal with this.

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by section214 on Jul 13, 2008 5:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm happy

I think this is great. Petrie has no choice but to trade Artest now. He isn’t going to be able to hold off any longer. I don’t think this damages Artest’s trade value. He sees the handwriting on the wall and is just elaborating on what he’s already said in the past week. It’s better for Artest and the Kings to be in a different situation. I’m willing to bet that Kobe is pushing for this trade to go down, and Petrie isn’t going to take any less than Odom and K9. We’re finally going to see some movement. Soon.

by Carl on Jul 13, 2008 6:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

^ Include K9 in the deal for Odom

Was too happy reading this to get a coherent post out.

by Carl on Jul 13, 2008 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

At this point

If that confused anyone, they haven’t been paying much attention. I didn’t even blink when I read your original post, so the correction wasn’t even necessary.

by smgmatt on Jul 13, 2008 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Joe Maloof's comments

Make sure to read Joe Maloof’s comments in the sidebar of the original article. He says seven teams are vying for Artest’s services. I don’t know if he’s basing that on speculation in the media or inside information, though I would assume he knows what offers have come in.

If this is true, the Kings will get good value for Artest, and I’ll give all credit to Petrie for waiting. (Assuming Petrie doesn’t wait until the deadline, which would be insanely stupid at this point.)

by Carl on Jul 13, 2008 6:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Na Na Na, Na Na Na Na

Hey Hey Hey….. GOODBYE!!!!

This is going to be a day to say “I told you so” from alot of people.

by the3rdK-Mart on Jul 13, 2008 6:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Just wait

Ron will be sending ESPN a new email tonight apologizing for requesting a trade, saying he hopes to get a championship in Sacramento, and that he was only joking about becoming his own agent.

by eduardo_m7 on Jul 13, 2008 7:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

And announcing that Mama Maloof has adopted him...

making him the crazy, angry, tall Maloof brother.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on Jul 13, 2008 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

hahahaha

At least now he can get into clubs.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jul 13, 2008 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

True

And no more money worries.

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 13, 2008 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That has to be a load off his mind

Finally being able to feed his family and all.

TickTickTickTickTickTick

by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 14, 2008 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

In this case...

Wouldn’t his family be feeding him?

by smgmatt on Jul 14, 2008 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So many juicy facts.

The paragraph on Mama Maloof… rotfl.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jul 13, 2008 7:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I wonder if anyone nationally realizes she's one of the owners Iash

I really do. For years it’s been reported the brothers are the owners. Nobody, outside of Sacramento, seems to realize that the whole Maloof family does.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 13, 2008 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

how much do people know about the owners of most teams?

Plus, I’m sure the brothers like to play the big balling bachelors angle. If they were all exposed as Mommas Boys, they might lose some edge in the Vegas party scene.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jul 13, 2008 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

People in that scene don't give a rats ass

They’re too drugged out to give what they are as long as the parties are comped. :)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 14, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just trade him already

Put an end to this insanity. Was it yesterday that he answered “no comment” to every question Scott Howard-Cooper asked? When did he send this email? Dude can’t keep his thoughts straight for 12 consecutive hours. Time to move on.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jul 13, 2008 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Stein says the Lakers are unwilling to part with Odom

Bucher says the Lakers are looking to address his lack of toughness. What gives? As far as Ron No Comment. Aint nuttin been said that I aint said before. But I don’t care for merry go rounds of this type. So, yeah, that’s pretty much that. Bye Ron. (Hopefully)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 13, 2008 7:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm not sure how to link but you all know how to copy and paste

Apparently his name is no longer Ron Artest. It is now William Artest or we can do “Bill Bill” for short.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AvfpLKvi8LsJV6PpacSrwJS8vLYF?slug=jy-artestsummer071308&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

by Ball in Cup on Jul 13, 2008 8:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Here's the link Ball

Johnny Ludden’s column. The way you link is you hit the chain icon on the comment toolbar (inbetween the tree pic and quotes), and you hit click, and then type in whatever text you want between the ”>” and the . That’s when the blue hyperlink clicky thing shows up.

As far as Ludden he says it’s over. He’s probably right, but with these matters I prefer to say that when it’s actually happened as opposed to befofe it does.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 13, 2008 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

A short cut

If you highlight a word or series of words before clicking the “chain”-link icon, it will set up the link right on the highlighted section.

The same is true for block quoting, bold, italics, & strike through.

This is nice because you can first type your response, and then add your links, etc, afterwords.

by smgmatt on Jul 13, 2008 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I want to make things simple

But yes that’s even easier smg. Thanks for pointing that out. (I do that sometimes too.)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 13, 2008 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks!

I don’t know why I have never noticed those buttons right above where I type in the comment box.

by Ball in Cup on Jul 13, 2008 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's an acquired skill not an inheritated one

We all have to learn it. And you’re welcome.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 13, 2008 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

when your scrolling through,

Hit the “z” button on your keyboard. Blew my mind.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jul 13, 2008 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

except

if you’re in an active thread and someone replies above what you’re reading it can sometimes be skipped, so if you see new posts, hit shift+c, then c again to get to the top

by Viliphied on Jul 13, 2008 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Artest had loyalty

by not opting out and the Kings organization are simply thinking of themselves by asking him not to as many were. Artest was thinking of the team. They treated him badly and now a trade is inevitable for the organization and for Ron. But Lamar Odom is soft, a decent rebounder, and when Ron goes to the Fakers and they become a great team giving Kobe the great back up scoring and defensive partner on the court he needs. I’ll be sick..It would be nice to get rid of KT but can we do it without making the Lakers a better team?

by LivesInSac on Jul 13, 2008 8:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Yep that selfless Ron Artest

The Kings have mistreated him from day one. He is all about team.

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 13, 2008 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

lawl

by Viliphied on Jul 13, 2008 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Kings did not ask him to not opt out.

Petrie specifically said that he told Ron that it was his decision to make and he would not pressure him either way. If Artest had loyalty, he wouldn’t talk about other teams all season long. That’s like a married guy telling everyone in a room that he would like to have sex with another woman. Dudes got a big mouth, self control issues, an overinflated sense of worth and needs to go.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on Jul 13, 2008 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hater

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Jul 13, 2008 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ron had enough loyalty to stay

because he thought he could cash in on our behalf. Now that he knows that’s not the case, he wants out of town as quick as possible. Loyalty? He must have gone to the Nick Saban school of ethics.

by misterbrister on Jul 14, 2008 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

LivesInSac

Amen Again!!!

There ARE some other teams. Too many seem fixated on the Lakers thing. We’ll never re-sign Odem. So, we make the lakers better for a ‘few’ extra wins this year?

I don’t get it.

eternal skeptical optimist

by lietothegirls on Jul 14, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

What's not to get?

We’ll never re-sign Odem. So, we make the lakers better for a ‘few’ extra wins this year?
I don’t get it.

He’s a good starting PF, which helps us this year. If he fits in, we can offer him $7-8 million to re-sign, because that’s what he’s worth at his age and at this stage in his career. If he doesn’t fit in, we can let his contract come off the books for cap space, or trade him at the deadline as a big expiring to get back a very valuable asset.

You can dislike the trade for a lot of reasons (and I know you do) but from a business/financial standpoint, it makes a lot of sense.

TickTickTickTickTickTick

by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 14, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

This is a really good point

I didn’t like the Bibby trade to ATL, but I understood that it was necessary from the Kings perspective.

Had that trade not gone down, the Kings would be paying the Luxury Tax this season, whether or not Ron Artest opted out.

by smgmatt on Jul 14, 2008 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mike Bibby never merited the type of talent in return

that other superstars have gotten. Why? Because Bibby isn’t a superstar. (Trading Bibby was a good first step.) Because it was necessary I liked it. I don’t live in a perfect world. I live in this one.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 14, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Return

I didn’t expect to get much talent back . . . I just hoped to dump some dead contract weight (K9/SAR) in the process.

by smgmatt on Jul 14, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can you adjust that expectation to Ron Artest?

The other problem with doing that smg, is that Atlanta, or whichever team would have insisted on the Kings taking dead weight back. I don’t think a deal would have gone down. As it was Bibby didn’t have that many suitors. That’s pretty telling isn’t it? Every rumor with Artest has K9 going with him, and not a single rumor about Bibby ever leaked with him taking another player like K9 along for the ride. I find that telling.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 14, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anyone else worried...

that Kobe and Phil straighten Artest out, he becomes Kobe’s Pippen, and we’re all wishing we has sent Artest to anywhere else for a bag of chips?

by cabz on Jul 13, 2008 11:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Sorry, been drinkin'....

that should read ‘we’re all wishing we had sent Artest anywhere else…’

by cabz on Jul 13, 2008 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

no

I need salsa with my chips.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jul 13, 2008 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

As long as they aren't offering Sour Cream N Onion....

I’m with you.

by cabz on Jul 14, 2008 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No

Anyone else worried that Kobe and Phil straighten Artest out

No. I’m not worried about that in the least.

by Carl on Jul 14, 2008 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

May that holy day we trade Artest comes soon!!

Amen

by ZenBaller on Jul 14, 2008 3:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

LOL

Artest continued to lament his decision to pass on an opportunity to become a free agent July 1 by announcing that he is now representing himself without an agent

What, Coolcat wasn’t available?

Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.

by otis29 on Jul 14, 2008 5:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

lol2

Given many people think Artest’s agent hasn’t been looking out for the best interests of Ron… He is still a player that DEFINATELY needs an agent to represent him. Oh man, can you guys imagine the Artest headlines for the next several years now?

“Artest regrets his contract that he made the terms of”

“Artest says management pulled a fast one on him”

“Artest plans to petition NBA for re-negotiation of his contract that he didn’t understand when he put together and signed it himself”

“Artest sues NBA for allowing mentally unstable person to negotiate his contract”

I’m sure I could think of more/better headlines, but it’s early.

by dkons21 on Jul 14, 2008 5:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

cont.

“Artest paid in Australian Dollars, team claims he did not specify”

by misterbrister on Jul 14, 2008 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

x2

“Artest sues agent over contract. Agent has no comment.”

TickTickTickTickTickTick

by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 14, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If this gambit works

I may hire Ron to be MY agent. LOL.

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 14, 2008 6:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

sounds horribly shortsighted.

I can only imagine the depth and breadth of an NBA contract. You gotta think that there are lawyers on both sides who, to a certain extent, build job-security by making these things as tricky and airtight as possible.

Ron’s a great guy, but dude can barely draft an email. And now he’s going to be his own agent? Yikes. He should try to get Jackie Charles as his lawyer… “it’s preposterous, it’s egregious, it’s outrageous!"

by misterbrister on Jul 14, 2008 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe he can download his forms from "Legal Zoom.Com"...

and Coolcatreport.com can cover all of his financial questions.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on Jul 14, 2008 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ron is right

He is getting screwed, and I can understand the frustration. For all the off-the-court hi-jinks, he brings it when it counts, on the court.

He’s also right about the Kings screwing up and firing Adelman and bringing in the ballboy to coach for a season. That and the injuries and a few missteps by Petrie have really set the franchise back.

I think they are headed in the right direction, and I think a team with Artest on it has a chance to be a big surprise this season. Despite Ron-Bill’s assertions, I think there’s still a fair chance he’s in the opening day lineup. I think the Lakers will back out on Odom, and everyone else will try to make Petrie blink with crap offers he will turn down.

I also blame the Maloofs in this saga. They threw out the false love for Artest, and he bought into it. In hindsight, maybe Ron probably should have thought more about Ron. But, face it, the dude is stuck in a box, with $15-million-a-year talent but a $5-million-a- year reputation. Which makes him a pretty good deal in the $8-million to $10-million per year range.

That’s really what the Kings should do, lock him up for 3-4 years for a contract in that neighborhood. And though things don’t appear to be headed in that direction, the ball sometimes takes a funny bounce, so we’ll see.

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 14, 2008 6:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

hmmm

But, face it, the dude is stuck in a box, with $15-million-a-year talent but a $5-million-a- year reputation. Which makes him a pretty good deal in the $8-million to $10-million per year range.

Well said. Agreed about the setbacks.

Despite Ron-Bill’s assertions, I think there’s still a fair chance he’s in the opening day lineup. I think the Lakers will back out on Odom, and everyone else will try to make Petrie blink with crap offers he will turn down.

I’m worried hat this might be the case. Very, very worried.

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Jul 14, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs