All of them?

that the Artest/K9 trade could do. Why waste roster spots on players you don’t need?

To beat the beat the dead horse on the whole “hater” thing. I used to think you were one of the more clever, witty posters on here..But you “hater” posts after any negative comments about Ron Ron are pretty lame.. owell, maybe, youll regain your comedic style once the season starts up again, cause i do enjoy your posts for the most part.

I don’t recall people ever saying that Ron Ron did “nothing” (I could be wrong about that though!). I DO recall people (myself included) saying that he NEEDS to stop emailing stupid comments to the media and that we, as fans shouldnt get so bent out of shape as to every comment he does make, so long as he backs it up come tip-off.

With that being said, it looks like he will without a doubt, not be playing in Sac Town this year. I would have liked to see Artest,Martin and Beno for an entire year, but I can live with his departure so long as we get some peices back.

Or maybe those crazy Maloof brothers stumbled upon StR. I want someone to make a StR t-shirt with a large picture of Ron with the title “Pass the Hatorade”. I would also like “True Asshole” shaved into his dome on the T. Can anyone make that happen?

You don’t see the difference there??

I’ll agree, the Maloofs tend to run their mouths a bit, similar to Artest. But 99% of the time, they are doing it in support of their players/management (to an almost annoying degree at times).

What Artest is doing is undermining his own efforts to get out of Sacramento AND he’s probably costing himself money or years on his next contract. Someone needs to duct tape the guy to a chair for about a month.

I wonder Ron’s opinion on the Nuggets is because he heard that George Karl blocked the deal. Remember that Artest sees himself on the level of Kobe and Chris Paul. Kleiza was basically a bench player and the Nuggets still wouldn’t do the trade. My guess is that Artest took it personally and that’s why he won’t go to the Nuggets.

Sure he can. Geoff Petrie will do what Geoff Petrie wants to do, not what a few dozen bloggers think he should do.

NOW, before it gets worse.

Just kidding, but you have been beating a dead, dead horse for some time now.

I do agree that Joe Maloof really shouldn’t be given anyone media relations advice. He’s the guy who really started this ball rolling when he said Ron was great and that if Ron didn’t opt out, there was a good chance for him to get a long-term deal. Now he thinks Ron should shut up. Sweet, but it comes off as one of those “Do as I say, not as I do” things.

I honestly didn’t see Miami or Cleveland taking K9’s contract in exchange for an Expiring Contract of their own, so to add a draft pick in those cases seemed ludicrous to me.

That said, after reading some of the rumors (for whatever they’re worth), I’ve changed my stance in that I think that Cleveland just might take K9 and give up a pick for the chance that Artest elevates them.

In addition, I think that Miami might also take back K9 in a Marion deal, although I still don’t see them giving up a pick in the process, since this is closer to the Odom deal (getting a “name” player back).

As I’ve said before, if the best offer is in the East, that would be ideal (definitely better draft picks in general). If it is not, however, I still think you take the best deal for your franchise, and let the chips fall where they may elsewhere.

I may have said the same thing in the other thread, but Wally just gets in the way. I like the idea of getting a first round pick, but with Salmons and Garcia already on the team, Wally creates a logjam at small forward. He does it without adding anything the team doesn’t already have.

I suppose what I like about Odom is that he rebounds, which the Kings desperately need, and he fits the Kings offensive style in that he’s a passer. He’s also better than anyone the team already has it his position, and he frees up time for John Salmons (or Garcia) to start. Of course, Odom also creates logjam issues and squashes minutes of the young guys.

At this point, I’m not going to complain. I just want Artest gone.

I would like to have seen Johnson invited to Summer League and training camp, but he’s got to earn his way onto the team. No one is going to give him anything.

Not picking on you individually K4L, just noticing that we’ve seen a few misspellings of Odom’s name already on here from several posters. In addition to Odem and Odum, I’m looking forward to some fun misspelling nicknames if we acquire him. Personally, I’m hoping Odam becomes popular, because then if he throws down a big dunk or something, we’ll be able to shout “Odam? Oh-Damn!”

So do you think it would be a good idea to trade Artest to the East?

:)

I’ll have to change my signature line.

Anybody know how to spell the sound of fingernails on a blackboard?

Why does Miami do this? Marion is expiring and Artest is a big risk. Is it just that Marion is such a locker room cancer that they’ll do anything to get rid of him?

Is that it means the Kings take on more salary, and if they sign only Singletary (probably won’t bother with Ewing with Marion around) than that means they’re very nearly the luxury tax, and probably creep over it. I don’t see the Maloof’s willing to deal away the tax payment because they want to get the best player possible.

It’s an excellent insight into some problems trading for Artest including wanting the extension part which will scare teams away. But at the same Artest has no negotiating power, and any team in their right mind would want to wait. Artest is not Kevin Garnett after all.

Would I want Josh Howard? Well, I guess if held over a barrel. Over Marion or Odom? Absolutely. Especially if you aren’t enticed by keeping Salmons as your fulltime SF for a season.

Now do I think the Mavs are a first resort type of option? Nope I don’t. I think a team like Cleveland could trump the offer if they take Kenny Thomas which is a huge negotiation bargaining point. If Dallas is willing to do that it’s hard to imagine not having some sway in these discussions. So let me offer you a counter idea.

Josh Howard, and Devean George in a S&T for Ron Artest/Kenny Thomas. George is an expiring contract that you could have a team option to void after a single season (creating the expiring contract-you can only create a 3 year s&t deal hence the team option after the 1st year-basically what happened with KVH). If Dallas does that, and George agrees to it, I can see the Kings going to that option at some point. Assuming there isn’t something they want more.

Like he fully delivered on the court last year for 57 games?

And I don’t think the Kings are necessarily looking for role models, but they don’t want too many knuckleheads either.

...that character shouldn’t be totally discounted in building a franchise. I’m pretty impressed with the transformation in Portland.

We shine so you can take the day off. :)