Amick: Bass and Stackhouse offered for Artest

by Carl on Jul 16, 2008 7:23 PM PDT

Sam Amick reports that the Mavericks offered Brandon Bass and Jerry Stackhouse for Ron Artest. Amick also notes that the Mavs are unlikely to offer Josh Howard and that he doesn't see Petrie doing the deal as offered.

Amick's post indicates that Lamar Odom is available, but the potential Artest and Kenny Thomas for Odom deal is on hold until the Lakers decide whether to match the Warriors offer for Ronny Turiaf this Friday.

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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Petrie is right to hold out. I like Bass, but he replicates what he have, and Stackhouse is… old. I’d rather not deal with Dallas’s poo-poo platter. It’s not our fault they overpayed for Jason Kidd.

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by iashwash on Jul 16, 2008 7:28 PM PDT reply actions

Modified trade

Here’s a trade I would consider:
Artest and Shelden Williams for Stackhouse, Brandon Bass, Eddie Jones and a first round pick.

The Kings get a promising young player (Bass) and a first round pick. Jones is cut immediately, Bass takes Shelden’s spot in the rotation and maybe you can unload Stackhouse somewhere.

Disclaimer: It’s not a great deal, but it’s better than the one proposed. Anyone know if Dallas has the picks to trade or whether Stackhouse has any trade value?

by Carl on Jul 16, 2008 7:34 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Dallas & Picks

They’d be in the same boat as the Lakers, as they traded two 1st Rounders in the Kidd deal – 2008 & (presumably) 2010.

The earliest 1st Round Pick they can trade is 2012, and I don’t know if teams can trade picks that far into the future.

by smgmatt on Jul 16, 2008 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Too far

That’s so far into the future that it’s probably not worth considering at this point.

by Carl on Jul 16, 2008 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions

crazy - why?

eternal skeptical optimist

by lietothegirls on Jul 17, 2008 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions

It's right there

The Kings get a promising young player (Bass) and a first round pick.

by Carl on Jul 18, 2008 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions

No deal

No Josh Howard, no deal. (or substitute Dirk for Josh)

by blako on Jul 16, 2008 8:38 PM PDT reply actions

Bad deal for you guys

but great for the Mavs.

But for what its worth, I’m sure the Mavs offer of Stack and Bass maybe their first offer, but not their final offer. You never start with your top offer. I find it hard to pry artest away without getting Thomas… so expect Devon George’s, Jone’s and Magloire’s names + picks to be brought up in some sort of deal.

I think the Kings are going to wait out what happens with Odem, and go from there bc Odem > Stack + Bass all day today, tomorrow, and forever.

by Toddy on Jul 16, 2008 10:10 PM PDT reply actions

I agree with that Toddy

Starting a dialogue is how most trades get done. I’m not sure if that’s true of Petrie though as he often says that trade talks heat up within the last 24 hours. (I think he’s lying, but given lack of information on Petrie it’s hard to say.)

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by pookeyguru on Jul 17, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions

Yeah, still trying to lowball it.

Somehow I get the feeling that some of the rumors such as marion’s availbility or Odom’s have probably been nothing more than rumors if this is a confirmed ‘opportunity’. If Dallas thought we had a worthwhile offer on the table, or good possibility thereof I don’t think they’d have offered such a crap deal.

by dkons21 on Jul 17, 2008 7:45 AM PDT reply actions

Please explain this to me...

Artest has an expiring contract….

What’s the point in trading him unless we take one or two GOOD players?

There’s no point getting expiring contracts for an expiring contract. It’s probably better to let his contract expire and then try to sign a good Free Agent.The only logic of doing this is:

1) to weaken our team and get a better pick and
2) Test Bass and see if he’s good enough to be resigned.

I’d hate to see Stackhouse stealing minutes from Salmons, Cisco and Douby. If you do this trade, please release stack.

by ZenBaller on Jul 17, 2008 8:31 AM PDT reply actions

Bass is pretty good

But I agree that Stackhouse is useless to the Kings.

by Carl on Jul 17, 2008 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions

Expiring Contracts

There’s about a 1% chance that Petrie trades Artest to “get a better pick”, so unless he thinks that Bass is a series piece of the future, the only real reasons to get back Expiring Contracts for Artest are:

A) To dump another contract (K9, SAR, etc.)
or
B) If he thinks that the rest of the team will develop better without Artest.

I don’t believe “B” to be a real option (at least not until the Trade Deadline approaches), so that leaves us with “A”. If Artest isn’t towing a bad contract out of town, then I think GP would rather just let him play the season out, whether anyone likes it or not.

by smgmatt on Jul 17, 2008 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions

I agree for the most part.

Either we’re shedding more salary, or we’re trading for picks/potential. Salmons/Cisco can handle the 3 for our rebuilding situation.

by dkons21 on Jul 17, 2008 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions

Breaking News: New offer from Dallas

The new trade would look like this:

Sacramento sends Artest to Dallas
Dallas takes a dump on the front steps of Arco

Experts agree that this new offer is much better than the original offer of Bass and Stack.

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by Exhibit G on Jul 17, 2008 9:12 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs

Hahahaha.

Thanks for the entertaining comment, I was almost in tears.

by dkons21 on Jul 17, 2008 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions

Never underestimate the power of poop humor

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by Exhibit G on Jul 17, 2008 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions

source?

I won’t believe it till I see it. In later news, Petrie considers the Mavericks latest offer.

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by iashwash on Jul 17, 2008 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions

Is there corn in the poop?

Corn is highly valuable these days ya know.

Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.

by otis29 on Jul 17, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions

mmmm, biodiesel.

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by iashwash on Jul 17, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions

Additionally

How much poop? Is this Cuban taking a dump on the front steps of Arco? I bet he can drop some bigguns.

Or when you say “Dallas takes a dump” – are we talking about the entire city? The trade becomes that much more tempting.

Ok, I think I’m done now.

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by otis29 on Jul 17, 2008 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions

can we then package the poop and a 3rd round pick to the clips for Camby?

by sactoreg on Jul 17, 2008 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions

LOL

nice

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by Exhibit G on Jul 17, 2008 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions

No good

Mama Maloof will offer the poop a long term deal, it won’t happen and then the sh*t will really hit the fan.

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by section214 on Jul 17, 2008 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Check yourself, section!

Diss’in’ Mama Maloof might just get you traded to the Knicks fan site.

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by KK on Jul 17, 2008 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions

still can't believe

that trade. I understand it, I just can’t believe it. Denver is going to have an ugly team next year. They will, however, have exciting games with Phoenix.

by misterbrister on Jul 17, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions

Camby-Man

Has been one of my favorite fantasy players for a couple of years now.

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by Jaycee on Jul 17, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions

Fantasy players and basketball players who fit the system

are entirely 2 different things. I don’t think Camby would be as good a fit here as some think.

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by pookeyguru on Jul 17, 2008 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions

?

Beno, Martin, Artest, Miller, Camby? That’s a hell of a lineup. That’s a man’s lineup. That said, monstruous on paper, the chemistry might be weird. Camby’s work ethic is on par with Millers (right?), so if both decided to take a night off, the Kings will eat it. That said, if both decide to have a monster night (20 20s each), the other team will get blown out the gym. Anyway, it’s all a theoretical discussion that doesn’t even matter.

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by iashwash on Jul 17, 2008 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions

Camby's a terrible perimeter defender

Or at least that’s Jeremy’s opinion of Pickaxe and Roll. But since Miller has no ability to guard PF’s either I find it difficult to imagine the Kings improve defensively if Miller or Camby can’t guard perimeter PF’s.

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by pookeyguru on Jul 17, 2008 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions

ahhhh,

I was misinformed. For some reason I thought he was a terrific perimeter defender… but I guess that’s just the OGKMart.

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by iashwash on Jul 17, 2008 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions

ahhh misinformation at it's finest

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by pookeyguru on Jul 17, 2008 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions

Which is why...

...I only mentioned him in the context of fantasy play.

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by Jaycee on Jul 17, 2008 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions

My apologies

You did do that.

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by pookeyguru on Jul 18, 2008 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions