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Kings come to terms with Bobby Brown

Interesting, I guess Petrie, et al weren't overwhelmed with Singletary's work in Vegas.

I had heard Brown was one of the more surprising players in Vegas. So this could be very good news for our very shaky PG situation.

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Hey Geoff, why'd you sign Bobby Brown?

Because it’s my prerogative.

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by section214 on Jul 23, 2008 7:47 PM PDT to parent up   2 recs

Cool It Now

This is the new edition of Bobby Brown.

Thanks, I’ll be here all week, don’t forget to tip your waitresses.

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Jul 23, 2008 9:06 PM PDT to parent up   2 recs

Did we get a morality clause?

The last thing we need is Bobby to start smacking around Whitney again. Then Ron would have to kill his wife to keep up. Maybe he and Reggie will start their own R&B duet.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on Jul 23, 2008 8:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No hitting Whitney

Smack is whack.

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by section214 on Jul 23, 2008 8:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That could be the name of Bobby & Reggie's first LP.

“Smack is Whack”

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on Jul 23, 2008 8:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I prefer

“Ron is Gone”

by VenomySnicket on Jul 23, 2008 11:12 PM PDT to parent up   1 recs

In that case...

Good work Geoff, you’ve earned that vacation.

I should have know when I saw the corn rows. We can always spot our own Brad.

by Muff209 on Jul 23, 2008 5:21 PM PDT   0 recs

Okay I'm good with this

I have no problem with Singletary or Brown having to earn anything come training camp. It wouldn’t bother me if both were on the 15 man roster. Is there some thing wrong with having 2 cheap 3rd string PG options on the roster behind your starter? This could be a win win and at worst is a no lose position consider the salary structure of this team already.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 23, 2008 5:57 PM PDT   0 recs

Singletary

Singletary isn’t a lock to make the roster. Brown’s deal is guaranteed for the first year, player option for the second year. At least we have something new to talk about. I’m still waiting for the Artest trade.

by blako on Jul 23, 2008 6:19 PM PDT   0 recs

Was gonna FanPost this here.

As a Hornets fan, I am pretty much in rage right now. We had an opportunity to let Jannero Pargo walk by signing up Brown to be third string. Ugh. Ugh. Ughhhhhhh.

I don’t know how much he will help you guys. I watched pretty much all his summer league games this year, and my overall impression was that he’d make a very capable third string point, and maybe, maybe challenge to be a back-up.

But, um, yeah… thanks a lot, you big cash-wielding, free-spending jerks :P

by atthehive on Jul 23, 2008 6:19 PM PDT   0 recs

Even though the Kings are fairly near the luxury tax

They will still be under the tax by close to 250 K. So that isn’t that bad considering their roster situation.

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by pookeyguru on Jul 23, 2008 6:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I take that back

They’re under the projected luxury tax by 150 K actually. That ain’t so terrible either.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 23, 2008 6:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

that's a first

have the Kings ever been referred to as big cash-wielding, free-spending jerks before?

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Jul 23, 2008 9:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yippee!!!

Somebody is jealous…of us!

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by section214 on Jul 23, 2008 9:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don’t think anybody has before but it feels kinda nice. =p

by Vp on Jul 23, 2008 9:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

wait, he's not being sarcastic?

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by iashwash on Jul 23, 2008 9:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't think so

You see, I have a very keen ear for sarcasm…oh, wait…sh*t!

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by section214 on Jul 23, 2008 9:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

rivalry with the hornets?!

I endorse the link above. It is worth your time to read it. Thanks for being a good sport atthehive. Its a compliment to think a team as great and up and coming as the hornets would have anything against the kings.

by Ball in Cup on Jul 24, 2008 1:02 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hahahahaha

I’m rec’ing you so that people can read that. I sincerely approve, good sir.

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by iashwash on Jul 24, 2008 1:05 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I like the fact

that they have the Dynamic Duo, Martin and Artest, hauling the kid away from New Orleans. The Hornets fans are not only clever, but smart, too.

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 24, 2008 1:22 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Lol

Not that I’d ever admit to liking another team’s players… but IF ever I was forced, at gunpoint, with my hands tied, hanging over the Empire State Building, I might have to say that Kevin Martin is my favorite non-Hornet.

by atthehive on Jul 24, 2008 10:32 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll trust Petrie on this one

He seems to always find diamonds in the rough (phrase used loosley) at the back-up PG position, ie: Darrick Martin, Tony Delk, Anthony Johnson the first time around, Bobby Jackson, Damon Jones, Eddie House, Beno Udrih. You could possibly throw in Ronnie Price depending on what he does in the next few years, or Tyrus Edney if you consider him a back-up instead of the starter he had to be.

Let’s home this is another one.

by rockrichmond2 on Jul 23, 2008 7:50 PM PDT   0 recs

please

it’s tyus. and yes, that’s him in my picture.

by beevenator on Jul 24, 2008 10:41 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Alot of Tyus Edney love do we?

I still love that run the Kings made in 96 with him & Hurley at the point. Underrated team as the years go by, but it was so flawed in some respects that’s it’s easy to forget somewhat.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 24, 2008 10:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thank you Geoff

Brown performed quite well in the summer league. He shot better than Singletary (who didn’t?) and had a league high 10 assists in one game. Petrie just filled a void without spending much. You never know what is going to happen with injuries, especially with the Kings, so it is good to atleast have a little insurace at the pg spot.

by Ball in Cup on Jul 23, 2008 8:01 PM PDT   0 recs

Marc Stein has some good words about Brown as well.

He came back as perhaps the best point guard here, outplaying multiple first-round picks in head-to-head matchups (Memphis’ Mike Conley, Charlotte’s D.J. Augustin and San Antonio’s George Hill)...

by Ball in Cup on Jul 23, 2008 8:10 PM PDT   0 recs

one more thing...

The article can be found here. scroll down a bit and you’ll find it.

by Ball in Cup on Jul 23, 2008 8:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Too bad Carl isn't around to see this.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on Jul 23, 2008 8:15 PM PDT   0 recs

so this is pretty much goodbye

to one or possible both of our 2nd rounders

by Vp on Jul 23, 2008 8:15 PM PDT   0 recs

Evers Burns! Evers Burns!

Settle down, Jerry.

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by section214 on Jul 23, 2008 8:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You should never

reference that joke without linking your hilarious round table post.

Everevereverevereverever!

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by KK on Jul 23, 2008 11:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I had totally forgotten about that

Thanks for reminding me. :)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 24, 2008 2:53 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually VP

I don’t see any reason to cut any of the three. They’re all cheap, and they can fill spots on the floor if need be over the course of the year if need be under emergency situations. Why not?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 23, 2008 8:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

their at 14 players now and isnt the maximum 15?

by Vp on Jul 23, 2008 8:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No

The Kings are at Artest, Thomas, Miller, Martin, Singletary, Ewing Jr, Thompson, Hawes, Salmons, Udrih, Garcia, Williams, Abdur-Rahim, Brown, Moore and Douby I think are all the guys on the roster with guaranteed or partially guaranteed money. So actually that’s 16 players.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 23, 2008 9:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

sorry i meant 14 garanteed contracts and if we keep both our 2nd rounders we’d be at 16 but isnt the limit 15 players?

by Vp on Jul 23, 2008 9:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

During the regular season yes

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 23, 2008 9:30 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

so

if a trade doesnt happen or SAR doesnt medically retire 1 of the 2 2nd rounders will be cut

by Vp on Jul 23, 2008 9:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Not necessarily

An artest trade may happen that could see a 2-1 deal that could see the roster cut down. Reef doesn’t factor into the equation unless he makes a miraculous recovery.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 23, 2008 9:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

?

aren’t we going to have to choose between P-Ew Jr and Singletary? If we kept both I believe we would have 16 players under contract.

by Ball in Cup on Jul 23, 2008 9:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I could be wrong but

I believe Brown’s contract would only be valid if he makes the opening day roster. If we cut him before then we only pay him a prorated portion for the preseason and training camp. Which if Paul Shirley’s book is accurate, is like $5000 or something. Plus no cap hit.

I should have know when I saw the corn rows. We can always spot our own Brad.

by Muff209 on Jul 23, 2008 10:26 PM PDT   0 recs

Saw him in Fullerton

I had a chance to see Bobby play once in Fullerton in his senior year and I left the arena thinking there was no chance he wouldn’t be drafted that year (2007 draft). The Kings are lucky to pick up a player that can just flat-out score when he’s put into the game. I didn’t really see him as a PG when he was in Fullerton, he was more the scoring guard, but I think he could be a good guy off the bench in a pinch, and should actually give Douby a run for his money than anyone else on the team.

by The Ghost of Dick Bavetta on Jul 23, 2008 10:29 PM PDT   0 recs

Douby is a proven scorer

who showed all what he can do in the summer league. But how does Brown compare to Douby as far as ball handling and passing/assists? I think Douby is the better 2. Brown might be the better PG. Douby needs to show he can drive and dish. If he can do that his value will climb rapidly and he may end up a starter somewhere.

by KingsFan on Jul 24, 2008 11:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe

They can play both Brown and Douby in the same lineup off the bench. Could be fun stuff. One guy running like a madman and the other guy spotting up and shooting bombs.

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 24, 2008 7:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm Glad to See Geoff is Listening

Yeah, I know, a few blowhards here just think all I talk about is Ron Artest, Ron Artest, Ron Artest, but for those who actually read the crap I write, you’ll find I’have been talking about the Kings needing to upgrade at point guard/combo guard, that penciling in Singletary for 15 minutes a game was too optimistic, etc. Looks like Petrie agrees.

What’s even better is that Petrie also agrees with my approach to continually try to upgrade the team. He’s definitely not a tanker.

Speaking of Artest, HoopsWorld has an interesting take on nothing happening with Artest until Luol Deng finds a new home.

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 23, 2008 10:42 PM PDT   0 recs

You have been vidicated!!!

Who knew the guy with Petries ear would be CC. The Kings are now improved dramatically by signing an undrafted player who spent last season in Berlin (a hot bed for combo guard prospects). Maybe this is why no one reads the “crap I(you) write”.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on Jul 24, 2008 12:07 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And for my next trick

I’ll try to get Petrie to dump Salmons for something useful. If nothing else it might throw a bone to the tankers who are hanging on pins and needles to see if Ewing makes the team.

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 24, 2008 12:11 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

?

The same people who lambasted the pick?

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by iashwash on Jul 24, 2008 12:16 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

They lambasted it on Draft Day

but when three cult leaders turned around on a dime, the followers all become sudden converts to the Ewing cause. Now he “could be the Kings future.”

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 24, 2008 12:20 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

hmmm...

So, your angry that people admitted that maybe Petrie had a point to the pick, while you previously justified your opinions by saying they were clearly in accord with the plottings of Petrie.
Aren’t you just twisting the norm and claiming originality?

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by iashwash on Jul 24, 2008 12:23 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I can't even understand

what the hell you are trying to say.

Maybe someone who speaks this language can translate. I come in peace.

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 24, 2008 12:37 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ok, trial two

Others say pick make no sense petrie must be dumb, but then say, no,no petrie might have sense, maybe pick make sense.
You think what you say is what petrie do.
You say you smart cuz petrie smart, do what you do.
But you say others dumb because they say petrie smart and like what he do.
They dumb but you smart when both do same thing.

Now do you understand the possible confliction? B/c I can dumb it down further… how does baby talk bode with you?

Tarzan bored. Where Jane? Tarzan go find Jane, talking to monkeys boring. Tarzan no have fun. Tarzan go find Jane.

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by iashwash on Jul 24, 2008 12:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, I'll try to explain it to you

But I’m going to have to stick with grownup talk.

Petrie is smart because he knew after the Vegas fiasco he at least needed a challenger at the 1, and what he really could use is a combo guard. But, the dude has no bread, so he’s got to try to find Beno 2, a cheap sub-$500k guy who might actually have some talent.

Ewing has some athleticism, but he’s a long shot to stick around unless some bodies are moved. And Sean Singletary just joined him on the bubble.

These guys are second round picks, so the odds are long anyway. Believe me, nobody’s going to hold it against Petrie if JT becomes a stud and Singletary and Ewing don’t.

Meanwhile, you can find a lot of conflicted opinions on this board if you look hard enough. Guys ripping Petrie in one breath and praising him in the next. Guys flipflopping even on Artest. And there are actually some folks here that consider the pros and cons of both sides of every story.

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 24, 2008 1:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

doesn't explain anything I was referencing

I was focusing more on an ironic twist of details, which while humorous I was hoping would give you an extra insight that maybe you’d find interesting. Now that you’ve flumoxed the statement past contrite quotables and into repetitive namesaking (not really of ponderous quality), I’m going to ignore your explanation of why Petrie signing a talented player for a little bit of money was an intelligent move (yeah, I kind of already figured that out), the description of why Ewing and Singletary don’t have a guaranteed situation(that has already been given numerous times from the very people you call silly), and some superfluous points merely trying to sarcastically point out that people have diverse opinions, only to focus on the crux of your reply. Oh, right, there’s nothing else. Your reply was not, in fact, any actuality of reply.
I was originally humorizing an ironic situation, which in your daftness of presupposed attack and therefore implicit counterattack you seemed to have missed out on. In fact, your evidence merely ties in to the very claim I was making. Good job there, buddy.

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by iashwash on Jul 24, 2008 1:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Huh?
I come in peace.

In this thread alone you’ve called people blowhards, tankers, cult leaders with followers and sudden converts, and told IW to get a mind.

And considering the snarkfest you posted on the GP vacation thread, I think it can safely be asserted that you almost never come in peace. You attack people, then when they respond in kind you attempt to take the high road.

And one more thing:

Speaking of Artest

Nobody was except you. Again. Though I suppose pointing this out makes me one of those pesky “blowhards” you complained about.

You’re a one-hit wonder.

TickTickTickTickTickTick

by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 24, 2008 7:45 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No worries

We always get 30-45 days of peace and quiet from CCR whenever Ron-Ron acts up. It’s just a matter of time.

Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.

by otis29 on Jul 24, 2008 8:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe that peace is imminent when/if Artest is traded

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 24, 2008 9:46 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

'Pesky Blowhards"

I couldn’t have said it better myself.

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 24, 2008 7:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ironic

Seven hours ago, when you started this thread, your take was, “I had heard Brown was one of the more surprising players in Vegas. So this could be very good news for our very shaky PG situation.”

Now he’s “an undrafted player who spent last season in Berlin (a hot bed for combo guard prospects).”

Make up your frigging mind. Better yet, develop a mind, rather than just take the opposite side of what I say.

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 24, 2008 12:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You are too funny I swear
They lambasted it on Draft Day but when three cult leaders turned around on a dime, the followers all become sudden converts to the Ewing cause. Now he "could be the Kings future."
Hmm, and who would those be? And what draft picks are we talking about?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 24, 2008 2:58 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry

But I didn’t, and don’t really understand it, the reasoning for selecting Ewing. I still don’t. I’ve just accepted that he may be part of the team for better or worse.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 24, 2008 2:59 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Uhm

I started the thread. Who are you replying to?

Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.

by otis29 on Jul 24, 2008 6:01 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

JJ otis (look all the way up top)

That’s of course in case you hadn’t figured it out. I suspect you did in 3 hours.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 24, 2008 8:53 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Exactly

It was more of a rhetorical question. :)

Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.

by otis29 on Jul 24, 2008 9:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks for that tip IW (didn't think about that)

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by pookeyguru on Jul 24, 2008 9:57 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't doubt it is

We are all tired of these antics. Opposing opinion’s I don’t mind, but when they’re always so insistently irritating, then it’s a tad burdensome.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 24, 2008 9:58 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I never made the first coment that you are attributing to me.

To be honest, I don’t scout the Russian leagues or other teams summer league rosters to find talent, I leave that to the GM of my favorite team. Before you start making accusations, get your facts straight. I did make the second comment in response to your ridiculous post calling people blow hards.

After looking over the three main threads from yesterday- last night, I noticed that your posts were negative and came hours after the discussions were over. When I got to this post I had really had enough of your B.S. and decided to respond.

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on Jul 24, 2008 9:43 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I guess

You failed to read the Kevin Martin thread.

It’s always dangerous to generalize.

I try to ignore the “BS,” but sometimes it just gets a little too thick.

“Hours after the discussions were over”—a lot of threads here ramble on for days. Is there some schedule of “correct” posting times I should be aware of and observe? I thought the budget for the posting police had been cut.

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 24, 2008 7:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Quit being a jerk

You screwed up, and said that jjham made the initial post in an effort to make a larger point. Swallow your pride, admit you were wrong, and move on.

Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.

by otis29 on Jul 24, 2008 8:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs