Houston Chronicle reporting Artest traded to Rockets.
by jjham15 on Jul 29, 2008 5:41 PM PDT
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PrintFrom section214 - OK, I'm moving this post to the front page because it was the first fanpost on the topic and I like jjham the best. The deal is Artest to Houston for Donte Greene, Bobby Jackson, and a future 1st round draft pick, likely 2009. Quick break down - B-Jax is in the last year of his contract and will make almost $7 million to back up Udrih and provide a veteran presence. Greene, at 19 is a project, but he did drop 40 in a summer league game. In essence, Petrie eschewed Denver's offer of a 1st round draft pick and expiring for Artest at the last trade deadline, and the reward was an additional 1st round pick and a back up point guard for this year. Houston reunites Artest with the Adelman, who can ponder closing games with T-Mac at the point, Battier at the 2, Artest at the 3, Scola at the 4 and Yao at center. Yikes, a healthy Houston team could be pretty good. Oh, and the deal can't become official until 8/14, the first day that Greene can be traded. Commence with JJham's original post...
The deal looks a bit shaky but its currently being reported on local news station here in Sacramento and on the Chronicles website. The deal is allegedly Bobby Jackson, a first round pick and an unknown player. There is speculation that the other player is the Rockets first round pick Donte Green from this years draft who cannot be traded until August 14. I don't buy, this deal doesn't make sense on a variety of points but who knows, maybe Petrie just wanted it all to be over with.
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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JJ there is a fanshot up already just delete this
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Nevermind as long as this is up hopefully people don't start posting 800 of these
That’s all I really would like especially for 50 words or less comments.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
sac bee reports the same but without the unknown player
http://www.sacbee.com/749/story/1118898.html
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All this is is a regurgitation of what the Houston Chron said
Until more details emerge I’m not inclined to say this deal has gone down. Worth monitoring though.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Probably will be nothing but
speculation until the 14th. Assuming GP couldn’t get anyone to bite on taking K9. I like this deal. BJax is expiring and gives us a veteran backup at the point, and we get a young talent and a number one pick. I think that’s pretty good.
But as Pookey mentioned elsewhere we’d probably go over the tax unless we send along a Douby or something. Which makes the Bulls rumor seem more plausible(saves us a mil or so).
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No Kfan
What I said is that it’s probably a given that the Kings won’t keep Singeltary or Ewing Jr as it will save them nearly 900 K in salary.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
So this gets possibly gets a deal done...
But Stackhouse and Brandon Bass wasn’t in the realm of possibility? I can’t imagine Cuban would have let a draft pick get in the way of wrapping this deal up…
With Stackhouse and Jackson both expiring, I guess it’s a matter of opinion whether you like Greene or Bass better, but given Sacramento’s situation with all their perimeter players, why would you rather have Donte Greene?
Can’t say this makes much sense, at all.
Don't think Dallas
can trade a #1. They sent them to NJ, didn’t they?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah they did Kfan 2008 and 2010 and under the CBA can trade the 2009 pick before it's drafted
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
But if dallas
could have cut a deal to take on KT, and send expiring contracts and minus the draft pick… wouldnt our deal make more sense?
Maybe
Guess Geoff Petrie didn’t think so, or Dallas didn’t want to take on K9.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Hard to say Toddy honestly
Very hard to say. I’m torn on that truthfully.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Not very much lol
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Yeah no doubt
The Kings are stuck with K9 for now, but you never know, a team could take him off our hands if they’re desperate enough.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Probably not Thompson
Since there is so much competition at SF now. But I would say Salmons and Cisco have the inside edge to starting unless one or both is dealt (more likely Salmons).
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Salmons
Cisco is much better off the bench than Salmons and the other two guys need to establish their games before they have a real shot.
Nice to be back sir
I hope I’m still welcome in this neck of the woods. If not, it will take approximately 2 1/2 years to get rid of me, during which time I will starve my dog of carrots, my wife will smack me, I’ll say I’m going to post and then hurt my posting hand just before game time, yell at Section 214 to “Get me the f-ing keyboard!,” insist on being called by various different names (Tru-Poster sounds pretty good), ask to be traded to Kingstalk, then back off, and well…you get the idea.
by Carl on Jul 29, 2008 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
That rant is so much more fun to read
when you’re staring at the Peaches avatar.
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Pure comedy
I’m apparently not good at separating rants from comedy. That was definitely the latter. Now get me the f’n keyboard man!
Carl's genius may be replacable
But that replacement isn’t welcome.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
As much as I hate to pimp CD
Artest will be the air tonight on KHTK sometime after 9pm.
I think I just heard that Reggie will be on Koz’s show next.
Link here to hear both radio programs on the web for non-locals who’ve been living under a rock. : )
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Already listening KK
I wanted to hear the Chron guy with Grant & Mike, but I missed it. Yukkers.
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Welcome back, Carl!
We’ve missed you for the last 72 hours or so!
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by KK on Jul 29, 2008 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Hah
Carl forced GP to act. Good job!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Welcome back Carl
Glad to see your vacation has ended.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Thanks, folks
It’s nice to be back. I’ll be driving the Geoff Petrie bandwagon starting August 14th. I’ll also be mowing his lawn, walking his dogs and washing his car on a regular basis. The only guy happier than me right now is John Salmons.
How are the monks?
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 29, 2008 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions
The only thing in Rio Linda is leaving it
So maybe you meant Natomas. :)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
You're not getting rid of me that easily
And I think that by the time I left they were all chanting something unpleasant about my mother.
TickTickTickTickTickTick
by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 30, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
she bleached the robes!
Monks can’t wear white! What happens after Labor Day, huh? You can’t blame them, this was a blasphemous travesty.
Now I can put my pink lace bra and panties back on. - Kfan in Korea
I'll cover the weekends if you take weekdays
Amazing deal by Petrie! I knew I voted to fire him too early. We get a first round player in Greene (I won’t mention that I have only heard bad things out of him from the Syracuse contingent, as one 40 point summer league game makes up for a season worth of bad press), EVERYBODY’S favorite underpaid player in Bobby J (amazingly making more this year than he ever did when he was on the Kings the first time), AND a first round pick.
Bobby J can be our back up 1, if that doesn’t work out and he is too old, he can at least be a locker room guy that should get a shit ton of respect from guys like El Flaco and K-Mart. Donte Greene could be an exiciting young player, add in last weeks signing of Bobby Brown and the Kings could be battling the Blazers for Western Conference supremecy in the 20Teens (can I copyright this phrase?). Go Go Kings.
Above it all, we FINALLY get rid of Crazy Bill Bill, we get addition by subtraction minutes, shots, and confidence from Kevin Martin/ Cisco/ Johnny Salmons, and were ready to go.
Downside: No more possibility of Dan Dan in summer league. For that I will shed a single tear.
by Travis Mays Hayes on Jul 29, 2008 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Torn.
I was looking so forward to shedding K9(Woof!), and we already have so many SF’s… But it did accomplish the status quo – Young talent, Expiring contract albeit a useful one too! I love Bjax.
K9 will be an expiring deal
next season. Not that big of a deal. I think it means that no one was willing to take on Kenny.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Koz just mentioned that on his radio show
either that or the Kings became less concerned with getting rid of Kenny’s contract because it might be possible that ‘Reef’s contract could end via medical retirement.
Sad news for ‘Reef personally if there is any basis in fact for Koz’s conjecture.
Also, I felt the need to distinguish the difference between getting rid of Kenny Thomas and getting rid of Kenny Thomas’s contract. I can’t hate a guy for signing an offered contract, and for playing hard whenever he was given the opportunity.
I wish Kenny and ‘Reef the best in the future, wherever that leads them.
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by KK on Jul 29, 2008 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that's usually ASSUMED
At least, that’s always how I interpret it.
It’s good to say out loud every once in a while, though, thanks KK.
the kid is friggin 6'11"
We got two kids big enough to play center that can play the small forward. Oh, this team is gonna run. This team is gonna run like the wind.
Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA
Glad to see you showed up Section
Now I can go stuff my face and leave and collect my thoughts more collectively. (Acctually I’m just too hungry not to do that.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Hey Section!
Now that you’re a big-time editor, you don’t post comments anymore? If that’s the case, I think it’s a terrible disservice to the site. Of course I think TZ should post comments more often too.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
New Job -
And it is a broken wheel that needs fixing. I promise to dedicate more time here as soon as I have things running a little more smoothly there. I’ll say this, though – even Peaches is fun to listen to when this is the news that accompanies you on your ride home.
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Ah, that's good to hear
Hurry up and get back on here full time. Good luck with the new job.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
hear hear on that one
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Who are you working for?
I must have missed it.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
He works for Satan aka David Stern
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I'm on a mission
for Her Majesty’s Secret Service. And I like my Royal Court Dancer shaken, not stirred.
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Dude I swear
As dumb of a parody as that is, remarkably dumb in fact, it’s still incredibly brilliant.
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I only share that information with my friends
and you can call me Mr. 214.
What’s it to you?
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by section214 on Jul 29, 2008 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Inquiring minds need to hit you up for that proverbial 500$$ loan
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Sorry
Didn’t realize it was a top secret or something to be ashamed about. Sorry, “Mr.”
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't worry
It’s not a pyramid scheme, so your turf is safe.
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by section214 on Jul 29, 2008 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Irony of ironies
Being called a pyramid scheme operator by a guy who makes home loans. Did you have to get a real job after they made you verify the guys you were screwing over actually had some income?
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 30, 2008 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Little pissed about the Artest trade?
I can see why, I don’t think your Artest fanpost can scroll down the list quickly enough to prevent you looking like a dumbass (again).
Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.
Those were my opinions
and I stand by them.
The dumbass is the guy who has an opinion who doesn’t speak up because he’s afraid some dumbass will call him a dumbass.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 30, 2008 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a single foreclosure
in my client base. Just sayin’.
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You aren't that irritating butthead who advertised constantly on 1140 are you?
I would really be unhappy with you if you are.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Haynes Barnyard?
No, but the feds are investigating his ass right now. Sweet justice.
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Yeah that asshole
Now if only that can happen to Peachosaurus Rex.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Don't tug on Section's cape
Don’t spit into the wind,
Et cetera.
Let's go home.-Kevin Martin
by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 30, 2008 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
This trade makes me feel like...
This trade makes me feel like I was about to eat some delicious popcorn, but there was a drop of hot oil on it, and it burned my tongue. Actually, that’s what literally happened a few minutes ago, but I think it is also a fitting analogy.
If this deal is in fact finalized (I’m going to operate under the assumption that it will be), I’ll be happy that the will-he-won’t-he drama is over. It will allow me delve full-on into my fantasy football obsession. But at the same time, my tongue is burned over what we got back and what we traded (or didn’t trade). Welcome back Bobby Jax, for sure. Was always a good guy to have on the roster, except for his abdomen being the basketball equivalent of Fred Taylor’s groin. Donte Green? Don’t know enough about him to make a solid judgment, so I’ll refrain from doing so. And a future pick. None of this particularly blows my hair back. Someone pointed out that Jackson is an expiring deal. But so was Artest. I’m also very disappointed that we still have Kenny Thomas on the roster.
I often preach that we must take the longer term approach to building the team, and that we must exercise patience. I stand by that sentiment, but I am intrigued to see how this plays into the long term betterment of the Kings. I’m not totally against it, I’m not totally for it. I’m in wait-and-see mode. And that frustrates me. I’d rather have an opinion so I can piss off a bunch of folks arguing it.
However, we all know that I’m an idiot. So if I’ve lukewarm, it was probably the greatest trade Petrie ever pulled off. See the signature if you need any more information.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
Market Conditions
Ron Artest’s trade value at the deadline was what tunred out to be the #20 pick (wound up being Alexis Ajinca) and expiring contract. His trade value today is the #28 pick (who D.Thorpe has ranked 13), a future 1st round pick and a badly needed backup PG with an expiring contract.
I like it, but I am admittedly pretty far up GP’s arse.
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That's ok Section
It’s a cozy place to be.
I’ll rejoin you there as soon as I have time to think about it a little more, I’m sure.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
I actually like this deal
better than any of the others discussed so far. Other than those that were of the Artest/K9 for Chris Paul/David West type.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Good deal
The Kings got a young guy with potential, an expiring contract and a first round pick for Artest. That’s a good deal. The fact that the expiring contract is one of my favorite former players (who is admittedly at the end of his career) is gravy.
I was hoping for 2 out of 3 of
young prospect/pick/cap space. Turns out we got 3/3. Not bad.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Nocioni not looking so bad now, eh?
eh?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 29, 2008 7:51 PM PDT reply actions
Still don't need him
PER:
Garcia – 15.16
Salmons – 14.00
Nocioni – 13.71
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by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
you can't measure fire, my friends
or grit, or hustle, or…ok I’ll just shut up.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 29, 2008 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
signed and fat-walleted
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 29, 2008 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
So much for that Deng leaving Chicago nonsense
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
But you can measure
that Donte Greene will make $5 million over the next four years, while Noc’s hauls in $29 million during that same period. I’ll take cheap upside for $24 million in savings, Alex.
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Sorry, you'll need to buy a vowel first
Vowels cost about $24 million
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by Exhibit G on Jul 29, 2008 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Eh
I think the deal we got is better than the Nocioni offer. I’m down with the young guys
by Travis Mays Hayes on Jul 29, 2008 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Addition by subtraction?
Sounds like you Kings fans are pretty satisfied ridding of Artest. I think it’s a good deal moving forward with a young nucleus of talent and not allowing Artest to dominate the ball on offense. The Blazers did something similar with Randolph. High FIVE!
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
yeah
now let’s really solidify the SF position by signing Darius Miles and letting him play exactly ten games
by furious.d on Jul 29, 2008 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pritchard would go “Nancy Kerrigan” on Miles before Petrie could think about it.
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
I think you meant your home-grown
Tonya Harding, but I got your point.
Unless you meant Pritchard was going to start sobbing uncontrollably and inconsolably.
No disrespect to either Kerrigan or Harding intended.
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by KK on Jul 29, 2008 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah -
I was wondering why Pritchard would be sprawled on the ground vrying “Why? Why?? Why???”
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It's official
99.9% of the StR illuminati are giddy.
-coolwhipdotcom
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by KK on Jul 29, 2008 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice
You’re my hero again. At least until I read iashwash’s signature again.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Please tell me he didn't
take my tongue in cheek suggestion seriously.
OMG! He did.
Now I can put my pink lace bra and panties back on. – Kfan in Koreaby iashwash on Jul 29, 2008 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta go, somebody has to change that 0 recs status on iashwash’s post.
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by KK on Jul 29, 2008 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't blame IW for your slip of the tongue
That’s just mean man! That’s just mean!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Yeah it is--Very Impressive
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
LOL
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
That's how
he distracts other GM’s into those trades. “Watch me Larry. I’m spinning…spinning…spinning…”
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I'm late to the party, so let my add my initial reaction
HOLY FKN ISHT!
Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA
Another King to go?
Any guess who the other player to leave the Kings will be? I hope I have that correct.
I just heard it on KHTK
It’s basically what I was thinking. Either Ewing or Singletary will go.
I have to think Singletary is a goner
They have Udrih, B-Jax and Brown under contract. I wouldn’t bet on Ewing sticking, either.
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Singletary to D-League
I could see sending Singletary to the D-League this year, with the idea of him coming back next season when Bobby’s deal is up. I don’t think Ewing ever really had a shot.
Don't players sent to D-League
count against the 15 player roster?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
yes
I hope you like the sig line :-)
Now I can put my pink lace bra and panties back on. - Kfan in Korea
Damn you all to hell!!!!
Bastard. ;p
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I would have deleted the thread had you buttholes not kept posting there :P
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
We needed a place to just be
happy.
I wish Ron-Ron (Bill-Bill) and his family the best, I think he will do well in Houston this season. I don’t hate the guy, I just don’t want him on “my” team anymore. I am tired of his BS, I wish him well, I really do.
This trade just gives me one more reason to not move to Houston.
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by KK on Jul 29, 2008 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
You mean a 110 heat index doesn't do it for you?
What happened to healthy respect for oversized American cities. I’m disappointed in you KK, you bitchy cowtowner!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
No cowtowner,
I’m a transplant from the east coast who likes it here and hates the hub transfer in Houston to get back to the east coast. It’s a dirty filthy airport, badly planned, and the humidity level from April through November makes it impossible to step outside to gather a breath of fresh air. .
Plus, my stepfather moved my mother to Houston where she died at 44, so you tell me my hatred of Houston comes from being a west coast elitist. Or even from being a bitchy cowntowner.
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Okay......
Your hatred of Houston surrounds your mother dying too young. Understood. Merely a joke, and I’m sorry now I made it. It’s too late now obviously, but my deepest condolences on the loss of your mother.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Nope,
my dislike (not hatred, I shouldn’t have used that word) of Houston stems from my dislike of Houstonian weather, horrible airport, and their 50+ miles of sprawl. Houston has a lot to offer but it also has a lot of drawbacks.
No condolences necessary, but they are appreciated, I stupidly revealed too much personal life there.
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Meh no biggie
You could do worse things like participate in S&M acts with your husband and put them on youtube for instance.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Please don't tell me the
PE2 Era is over? Possibly sacramento’s most glorious era as a basketball city. Drafting someone nobody knew existed, cutting him before anyone, namely me, can ironically buy his jersey. They really screwed the pooch all around on that one.
by Travis Mays Hayes on Jul 29, 2008 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Given waht has transpired
I don’t know who we could have drafted at 42-43 that would have stuck. The trade, along with the signing of Bobby Brwon added a net of two players to the roster, including two point guards. Bill Walker, Richard Hendrix, DeVon Hardin – I don’t think any of those guys would crack the top 15 on this current roster (considering that ‘Reef and K9(woof!) are in the top 15 by virtue of their guaranteed contracts).
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Very interesting stuff
I am going to have to digest what this means before commenting further. My guess, though, is there will be a few more deals before Petrie is done. So much for the “vacation.”
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 8:21 PM PDT reply actions
I'd knew you'd have a civilized take
I’m just kidding CC.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Take as long as you need.
I am going to have to digest what this means before commenting further.
No, seriously.
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by KK on Jul 29, 2008 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Is the deal pretty much done?
What if Ron has another incident? Can the Rockets nix the deal before the 14th?
now is not the time.
Deal with the hang-overs tomorrow… now time to get sauced.
Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA
If Greene is involved
It can’t possibly be finalized until then. So, until then, if you see Ron at the club, don’t throw a beer on him.
I know it was only summer league...
BUT, I was drooling over Greene during that game against the Rockets. For those of you who watched, you may remember there were no announcers, just the PA guy repeatedly calling out “Donte Greene! ...Donte Greene!...Donte Greene” over and over and over again because it seemed like he scored every time down. This kid averaged just under 18 pts and 7 boards per game in the Big East as a Freshman. Good stuff.
I approve.
And LPA will finally get to change her signature
Fortunately the boom! at the end of the tick tick tick tick tick tick was the cannon going off at the beginning of the ticker tape parade.
"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie
Carmichael Dave shooting his mouth off
He said Douby may be involved. Then he called BJax a has been. Ouch
If
you’re called a has been by Carmichael Dave and there is no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
Carmichael who?
I heard his new radio name is Houston Ball Licker.
Apologies, I know it was wrong to hit “post”.
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by KK on Jul 29, 2008 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Who says?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
oh yeah
because BJax was clearly the reason Petrie did the trade. effin dum-dum.
Now I can put my pink lace bra and panties back on. - Kfan in Korea
How can you understand C.Dave
with Artest’s balls in his mouth?
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
by section214 on Jul 29, 2008 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I had to listen to coolcat for so long, I can translate fluent.
Now I can put my pink lace bra and panties back on. - Kfan in Korea
Caffinated?
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by 27freethrows on Jul 29, 2008 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
What happened to my picture?
it was there when i posted
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by 27freethrows on Jul 29, 2008 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
never saw it, but I looked up the source code and went to the accompanying image
and only my hope for you reposting it prevents me from saying what it was.
Now I can put my pink lace bra and panties back on. - Kfan in Korea
I looked up the source code too and can only say,
oh my.
While giggling like a twelve year old boy. Rec+
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by KK on Jul 29, 2008 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I just hope you aren't a 12 year old boy
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Not even close
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by KK on Jul 29, 2008 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I take this to mean
KK has tremendous “upside”
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
If i was KK i'd be scared of you LOL!!!!!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I would hope
she realizes it is all in fun. Not that stalking isn’t fun, but I do live half a world away.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
We're making fun of everyone for everything tonight Kfan
Nothing is off limits. :)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Indeed, I do.
It’s a special night and that comes with special dispensations.
Cheers!
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Wait, you know where she lives?
Ummmmmm….
Now I can put my pink lace bra and panties back on. - Kfan in Korea
Not in Korea
I hope. Now I’m scared.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
It should go without saying,
that the previous post was a joke.
A translatable joke, but a joke nevertheless.
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It says
Hello honey, will you marry me?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Make babelfish your friend,
and cross your fingers that it translates accurately. (No hope of that, I hope I didn’t offend Kfan or his family unintentionally).
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Yeah somehow he seems like the easily offendable type....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Never, ever,
depend on babelfish for accurate translation. I had no hope of knowing whether the kanji translated accurately.
I dunno if kanji is the correct description of Korean translation of English.
It was a throwaway joke. Let it go.
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Knock Knock!
Who’s there! Who’s there Who? Kfan’s Pink lace and Panties!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
LOL
Funny shit.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha!
Accurate translation for the first time EVERS!
Calm down, Jerry, she didn’t say EVERS BURNS!
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Babelfish actually
translated it as
Goodbye honey, you will marry me?
But I know 안녕 is good for hello or goodbye.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
No disrespect to your daughter
But this pudding thing has gotta go.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Pookey sez,
it was only funny the first 200 times.
Me? I still think it’s funny.
We should be forced to pay your daughter a $1 royalty each time we use it.
Of course, it’s not worth as much as $1E (I can never remember the key strokes to do the squiggly E thingy).
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KK & Section
Yall are killing me
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Stop it!
You’ll make me break out Bricklayer’s bat (from Kingsfans.com) and use it on you!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Kingsfans? Kingsfans?
You referrence Kingsfans on this site?
You are dead to me. Plus you don’t wield the bat around here. (Kidding/joke/etc.).
And um, no, you are not dead to me, I was being dramatic….ya know, like most KF.C posts are.
Never ever ever EVERS EVERS BURNS mention KF.C on this hallowed site again.
Settle down, Jerry, it was a bad joke. EVERS BURNS is not an available player!
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Ah
noodles, that makes sense. Probably more like soup with noodles. Or maybe the soup is assumed.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Soup?
must be the same word for soup and pudding I’d guess. I like Cal Guk-su(국수) (spicy clam soup with noodles).
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Is kanji the right word?
For Korean written language?
If you weren’t born and raised in this language, I am suitably impressed with your facilty. If you were raised in the language, I’m even more impressed with your english facility.
I have tried to learn to speak Cantonese and it’s hopeless..or I am. Asian languages and their written languages must be the most difficult in the world to master.
So, do you know the right characters for “noodle” so that section and I can continue to annoy pookey?
If you could include “pudding” that would be awesome.
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The word
for Korean it is Hangul. Kanji sounds Japanese and there’s no way they’d use the Japanese word here.
Many Korean words are of Chinese origin, but the written language is not. It was “scientifically” created by King Sejong in the 1400s to help poor Koreans learn to read. It’s actually really easy to learn to read Korean. I don’t really speak Korean(too little vocabulary), but I can read it no problem.
I don’t know noodle or pudding. I’ll ask at work today.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Who says sports sites aren't educational?
Thanks, appreciate the noodle and pudding question.
By kanji, I was referring to the written language/characters, I just didn’t know what the right word was to describe the written language. I could be wrong, but I thought Chinese written languages were called (at least in the West) kanji.
I get the lack of love for the Japanese in Korea and China but I don’t want to continue the discussion here.
Good to know that the spoken language is Hangul. I love learning new things
So, Nike employee?
And, no, I’m not stalking you despite my previous marriage proposal. My husband would not approve!
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Your husband doesn't approve of you stalking him?
Or other men?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I'll take this one Kfan...
In chinese the written language (characters) is called “hanzi”, while the spoken language of mandarin is called “putong hua”, of course, I just wrote that using our alphabet, which when writing chinese with our alphabet its called “pingying”. Ok, enough of that.
by Travis Mays Hayes on Jul 29, 2008 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Enough, yes.
But thanks for the correction, I can see I have more research to do.
I hope everything is returning to normal (as much as that can be) for you and everyone you’ve tried to take care of.
Good to see you posting!
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The written language
is Hangul. Probably not called Kanji because it was created separately and has individual letters.
Unlike Chinese where each picture is a word and Japanese where each picture is a syllable(as I understand them). In Hangul each character is a letter and these letters are combined to make syllables. Each “block” is a syllable.
So 국수 is two syllables made up of 5 characters. ㄱis between a ‘G’ and a ‘K’. ㅜ is a long ‘U’ and ㅅ is an ‘S’.
So it sounds like “Gook-Soo”. I asked at work and 국수 means hand made noodles. You could also use 라면 for noodles. Sounds like “La-Myon”. We know it as Ramen. Pudding is 푸딩 sounds like “Poo-Ding”.
There you go, more information about Hangul than you’d ever want to know.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 30, 2008 4:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Nah,
he’s in Korea. You boys are either Twix-illated, drunk, or just plain giddy.
I have tremendous respect for RA (Bill-Bill) and if there’s a coach in the league who can deal with him it’s RA (Rick Adelman).
I wish B-B and his family the best, I hope he does well in Houston. But, he will be the one former Kings player that when I see him do well, I won’t wish for the Kings to have retained his services.
I’ve spent unproductive time mourning many former Kings players and while I’m sure I will do it again, I won’t do it for Artest.
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Too easy, but...
thats what she said!
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by 27freethrows on Jul 29, 2008 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I say be nice to CC
At least he didn’t post a stupid reaction following the “trade”.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
You should have waited five minutes
before asking for a DMZ for coolwhip.
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by KK on Jul 29, 2008 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Hell no
I say only wait 93 seconds dammit!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I take back my apology.
I’m shocked, shocked, I tell ya!
Also laughing my ass off, but that’s beside the point.
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by KK on Jul 29, 2008 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Unfortunately, he's right
Or, to be charitable, he’s no longer as effective as he once was.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
yes
But, you know, if the deal was “Booby Jacksons contract” minus “The body of Bobby Jackson”, I’m pretty sure the trade would have gone down anyway. Getting “The body” just makes it easier for Petrie to shove this trade down the mouths of the Sactown media, and maybe helps in the PG problem. To insult Bjax is unnecessary.
Now I can put my pink lace bra and panties back on. - Kfan in Korea
Sorry, iashwash
but you lose. Wrong answer. Stop fishing in coolwhipdotcom’s pond.
I’ll take PUDDING for $50, Alex.
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by KK on Jul 29, 2008 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
That was funny the first 200 times KK
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Considered it retired,
just cuz you said so.
But really…how long and how many purely baiting comments should I wait to simply respond nonsensically to the same thrown hook. Granted, he changes up the flies, but the cast is always the same.
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Get drunk and have a quickie
That’s my only response. (I realize you’re irritated by CC. But, I say let it alone at some point. That’s the only way to attain peace.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
pookey, i respect your writing so much...
that’s why I had to sig your final comment on the stop making ron ron trade threads
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
I'll take infamous over famous for 5 billion Alex......
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I feel like after two years of waiting to rebuild,
we FINALLY got there. This should’ve happened a year ago today. The sun will be brighter tomorrow, and the flowers smell better etc.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
No doubt MO
This is a culmination of a year screaming for this very moment, and as it happened, I was reading Clips Nation. Go figure.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Yeah sure, class, that's me.......
HaHa thanks.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Pookey
I believe it translates to ‘whales vagaina’...
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by 27freethrows on Jul 29, 2008 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Priceless
If this thread doesn’t go down in history, no thread should.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
What a dick
Dear Carmichael Dave,
You’re a nobody. That’s OK, I’m a nobody myself. But you’re also a dick, and being a nobody AND a dick is a bad combination.
Sincerely,
Carl
Please don't take a vacation out of anything other than you want to relax
We need this type of snarky humor around here.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
chalupas!
I’m buying, everyone meet at my corner Taco Bell in five minutes.
Now I can put my pink lace bra and panties back on. - Kfan in Korea
Can we start a nice goodbye chant or is it too early?
Nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah, hey hey hey….
GOOOODBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now I can put my pink lace bra and panties back on. - Kfan in Korea
Brilliant
Sactown Royalty: Where Ron Artest’s trade results in blogwide Euphoria…..
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
First (and probably last) thoughts
1. It’s a long way to the 14th.
2. I’d say a big factor is whether Houston is ready to commit to a deal beyond this season for Ron, or else he may kill the deal. I have to assume that’s part of the deal.
3. Greene is in the same situation vs. Salmons-Garcia that JT is in with Mikki-Sheldon.
4. Adding two guards (for now) in Jackson, probably means Garcia is going to play more at the 3 and possibly back up the 2.
5. Who else from the Kings is going to Houston? Is anyone? I read one quick report that said the numbers don’t add up and we have to send some filler.
6. As I said before, I think some more deals will be put together before the end of the summer.
7. I like getting two No. 1 draft picks. Waiting was worth the wait.
8. Houston just became one of the favorites int he West or certainly took a paper step forward, although …
9. Artest should fit right in with Yao and McGrady as they all have a habit of missing some games.
Out until tomorrow night. You guys have fun with this. :)
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 9:57 PM PDT reply actions
The numbers add up CC
The only problem is that if the KIngs keep everybody signed they would be paying luxury tax. So I imagiine there is some manuevering done to get under that threshold. Other than that I would agree there is a player going to Houston if for nothing else was because it was part of the trade.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Responding
1. Agreed, but I think DoubleRon will like the trade and try really hard to behave between now and then.
2. There won’t be any contract extension at this point. He’s going to have to prove himself. I think he knows that.
3. Agreed, but Greene’s development may lead to one of them being moved at some point.
4. Yep.
5. Douby would seem to be the best candidate.
6. I don’t think so, but would be happy to be wrong. The Kings don’t have the roster spots to take on too many more players.
7. Yep.
8. I think Houston jumps into the top four or five teams, but I wouldn’t put them above the Lakers at this point.
9. Agreed. I’m glad it’s someone else’s soap opera now.
On Number 6
I think it could go the other way – move some spare pieces like Salmons, etc. and maybe the pick we just got for (gulp) another slightly more established player who won’t be 29 before Christmas.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
One Last One
What did Artest say on the radio show, particularly about any new deal with Houston? No deal could = dealbreaker.
One last comment: now that this has actually happened, I’m kind of relieved.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 9:59 PM PDT reply actions
No doubt on the relief
If nothing else it’s tiring arguing about it over & over.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I am relieved
not to have the answer LPA’s tape recorder any more :)
By now I have even forgotten the (over and over and over) recurring question.
I guess now I will take shots for my opinions on Salmons and perhaps other misc. disagreements I may have with the faithful, but it just won’t be the same.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Salmons?
Trade him.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, you beat me to it
Salmons is suddenly too old for this team. Just insert Salmons in place of Artest in all the “gotta play the kids” arguments from the past month.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
The second Salmons becomes...
...a major distraction.
...a black hole on offense.
...a locker room cancer.
...an aspiring rapper.
...a flip-flopping media hog.
...RON ARTEST 2.0
...we can have this disucssion.
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by 27freethrows on Jul 29, 2008 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
He’s already got the black hole thing down pretty good.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
A little research would help...
Ron Artest:
16.7 fg attempts per 48 min
4.4 assists per 48
Salmons:
9.8 atempts per 48 min
4.0 assists per 48
In conclusion:
Salmons give 0.4 less assists per 48 minutes and 6.9 less shots. Does that compute to a black hole? Really? Really?!?
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by 27freethrows on Jul 29, 2008 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not just me saying it
Wait until the games start, and it’s dribble, dribble, dribble, stripped.
I will check into your stats, though, and report back my findings.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
82games,com
Go to town, check away.
As for your ability to predict stats in the future, I cannot compete. I do not have said ability. Can you give me the lottery numbers for Wednesday? Or are you just yelling at the wind again?
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by 27freethrows on Jul 29, 2008 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
The Magic 8ball
Tells CC that John Salmons is a ball pounder. That’s what his magical mystery tour will tell him. :)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
"Ball Pounder"
Ha ha ha (I am such a child).
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by 27freethrows on Jul 29, 2008 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Salmons will start
bank it.
(unless there’s a real bloodletting coming)
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jul 29, 2008 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Your assist numbers look right
But your shots per 48 are off because you used their shots per game instead.
Artest: 21.3 shots per 48.
Salmons: 15.3 shots per game.
Of course, you have to remember there are two John Salmons.
John Salmons the Starter
and John Salmons the shrinking violet who moans and complains when he comes off the bench.
It would probably be useful to compare both John Salmons and lean more on the starter numbers if that’s what you project him to be.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Correction
Salmons: 15.3 shots per 48.
Your other mistake reminds me of the Kevin Martin Mythbusters thing that ended up being based on bad data (but was never corrected even while those numbers received national coverage).
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Salmons the Starter
Chucked it up 17.1 times per 48 minutes when starting, almost two shots more per 48 than his average. Since he started 41 games and came off the bench for 41, his non-starting numbers are probably about 13-plus shots per 48.
In any case, less than Ron, but who will take Ron’s shots now? It should be Kevin, but dribble, dribble, dribble. ... we’ll see.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 30, 2008 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Source of data is
Yahoo Sport’s NBA stats run through a spreadsheet.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 30, 2008 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
He was efficient
Salmons was actually pretty efficient as a starter. He shot almost 50% from the field and over 38% from three. I don’t expect those numbers to hold up, but will be happy if he’s even close to that. I’m not really worried about it at this point. We’ll find out pretty quickly if Salmons shot count is a problem.
At least Salmons is coachable.
TickTickTickTickTickTick
by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 30, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like code
for “productive” and all those other tags you give guys before you ship them off.
I’m sure Dan Dickau is very coachable as well, and so are a lot fo the other 6-12 guys in the league.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 30, 2008 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
My point, and I do have one
Is that if Salmons starts to turn into a black hole on offense, he can be told to stop it and will, in all likelihood, listen rather than demanding the effin’ ball.
Seriously, do you go through these threads and look for my posts so you can pick fights with me? It’s getting a little creepy.
Let's go home.-Kevin Martin
by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 30, 2008 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Remember
the kid in grammar school that used to tease and punch you and pull your hair because he liked you? He’s that guy.
Wait a minute…I was that guy.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
You're Ricky Sussan?
I want my thermos back!
Let's go home.-Kevin Martin
by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 30, 2008 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you sure?
I’ve kept it under my bed for years and I never did clean out that little bit of milk.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
Yah
He’s that guy.
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by 27freethrows on Jul 30, 2008 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I 'd say
It’s the other way around.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 31, 2008 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
In Any Case
It could be a moot point.
Petrie might not be done, and it doesn’t look like Salmons has a spot in this future lineup.
Bottom Line: If Petrie, in making the Artest trade, has moved into total rebuilding mode, do you really want Salmons taking minutes away from Cisco and Greene just to get a few extra wins?
I’d like to see this at the 1-2-3:- 1: Beno 30-35, Brown eventually taking over for BJax and getting most of the rest. Cisco in reserve if needed.
- 2: Martin 35-40, Douby the rest. Again, Cisco could also back up this spot.
- 3: Cisco 28-32, Greene most of the rest.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 31, 2008 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Salmons isn't much older than Cisco
aren’t they both 26?
Now I can put my pink lace bra and panties back on. - Kfan in Korea
oooh
not at all. Salmons is 27? Shit, I didn’t know that.
Now I can put my pink lace bra and panties back on. - Kfan in Korea
Actually Salmons is a very old motherfucker at 28
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Salmons DOB
12/12/79. He will be 29 in December.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
What is humorous
Is the main argument for Salmons starting is that he sucks coming off the bench. LOL. Just give the job to Cisco already. You know Theus will be down with that, and last I checked, he’s the guy that makes out the lineups now that Artest is gone.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Equals
I think Cisco and Salmons are pretty equal as basketball players. They’re not the same type of players, but they’re equally effective as starters. (Check their numbers as starters last season). That being the case, if Salmons is better starting and Cisco has proven he’s effective off the bench, you start Salmons.
STOP!
Just, stop. Logic has no use here!
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by 27freethrows on Jul 29, 2008 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I just wanted Artest gone
Salmons I’m flexible on.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I think he needs to prove himself this coming season
He should be the starter at the 3. He has proven in the past that as a starter he is a good player. Even on D, I remember him locking some people up in some games last year. Cisco will back him up and play the perfect 6th man role. As for Donte Green, I know he went nuts in Summer League, but he left Syracuse after only one year. He probably needs some seasoning so he may not be ready to contribute right away. He could turn into a K-Mart type of player where he has to take the growing pains of being a rookie and then take advantage of the opportunity when it presents itself.
I'm not sure
I agree with you. The Rockets might want to try him out for a season, before deciding if he fits in well enough to sign long term. If they sign a deal now and he doesn’t work out, they’d be screwed.
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by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya they'll definitely kick the tires,
before they pay for the car.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
But
Will he pee in their cheerios if he doesn’t get the love now?
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you trying to make people angry with you?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Nope
It just seems like a little thing now that could become a big thing before the 14th. Just sayin’.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
HHhmmmm
I thought you were done for the night. Now you’re back startin’ trouble. And I likes it!
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by 27freethrows on Jul 29, 2008 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
CC I think you had a valid point except for this
Artest has no real posturing power like Garnett did before he went to Boston. Artest has to play himself into the type of money he wants, and Garnett already earned it. Or at least most people felt he did.
Now, I doubt that’s the type of thing that will kill this deal between now & the 14th. It is your right, of course, to disagree.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
You're probably right
but this is one of those “fat lady” situations where the ink isn’t quite dry, so …
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I see your point
But I don’t really believe Petrie would allow this to be announced if the deal wasn’t finalized with the sole exeption of Donte Green to be included in the deal.
To be blunt CC, Petrie thinks there is a deal. Morey thinks there is a deal. Artest said he would want to be traded when the Kings didn’t resign him. So, now that has been accomplished. Why would Artest demand the Rockets to pay him when they don’t have to?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Correction
Donte Greene with an e.
Donte Greene with an e.
Donte Greene with an e.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Uhm CC
I spelled Donte Green with an e. Unless that’s a terrible joke I’m just stupid to get.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
To quote you
“But I don’t really believe Petrie would allow this to be announced if the deal wasn’t finalized with the sole exeption of Donte Green to be included in the deal.”
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
You know its true
Petrie wouldn’t
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jul 29, 2008 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
What does that have to do with the spelling of Donte Green's name?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
You got me with a funny CC
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I was talking about the 'leak'
wouldn’t have happened with petrie unless a done deal.
It just posted in the wrong spot
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jul 30, 2008 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions
"Why would Artest demand the Rockets to pay him when they don’t have to?"
Let me think: because Ron is Ron?
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
So Ron would demand an extensino from the Rox
After demanding to be traded? That’s alot of demands. I wonder what that would look like in exponential form.
A demand demands demanding demandish type things. A new monster is upon us!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Right
Crazy like a fox, weren’t those your exact words?
It sounds like his agent (who is still, apparently, his agent) has taken the reins and will attempt to keep Artest from screwing up a deal that will put his client in a good situation.
TickTickTickTickTickTick
by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 30, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Now my question is
Would he get an ovation when he comes back to Arco for the first time as a Rocket??
Of course he will!
Everybody does unless Vlade pays them five bucks not to.
Just some of us will be applauding that he’s gone.
TickTickTickTickTickTick
by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 30, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Artest
Does not have a no trade clause and will be playing his ass off for his next contract.
Period.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
Playing for Adelman a coach whom he openly admires doesn't hurt that cause either
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Ummm... by "openly admire" you mean "said publicly in media" right?
Because, we know how Ron has a tendency to flip-flop on what he told the media.
Now I can put my pink lace bra and panties back on. - Kfan in Korea
Yeah the Rox with a chance to go far with Artest a huge shot to contribute
Is something that will keep him motivated there.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
but
you must admit that if he emailed his buddy Mark Stein saying that he would go to Tazmania to start the cult of the Tru Warrior if the Rockets didn’t extend him before the season, the deal would be off. and you also have to admit that there’s about a 50/50 chance of that happening.
Future Emails
Mark Stein: Yes, Ron.
Ron: Mark, I know I’ve emailed you and Amick every day since they announced the deal, and today I just wanted to tell you that I don’t like Rick Adelman after all, never have, and it was all his fault we didn’t beat the Spurs in 2006. I hope the Rockets hire Reggie. ... and, Mark, you know what? My agent tells me I am the missing link in the Rockets winning the championship, and you know that has to be worth $14-$15 million a year, right. They better show me some respect or I’m gonna … I’m gonna … I’m gonna pee in their cheerios! Just kidding, Mark, I got that off some silly message board I always read.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Imagine Ron Artest
Gambling on the steal … and knowing he has Yao Ming covering his backside instead of Brad Miller.
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 10:47 PM PDT reply actions
and Shane Battier
now, he can concentrate more on steals, and won’t have to guard Kobe for the whole game so he can play even more offense! perfect fit for Ron, doing exactly what he shouldn’t have done here. good trade. good trade!
Now I can put my pink lace bra and panties back on. - Kfan in Korea
Logan's Run
Totally ridiculous flick from 20-30 years ago in which Farrah Fawcett and a bunch of other lame actors lived in a futurtopia where folks were killed when they turned 30.
That sounds like the Kings after this deal, getting younger and younger. See ya, 30s!
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 10:55 PM PDT reply actions
Me confused
So are you arguing that the Kings should start stockpiling 30+ year olds? Miller, SAR, K9 are all 30+, are you arguing that they need to stay? But we just picked up a 30+ year old in B-Jax, so it looks like an old-man-wash, plus a first rounder for next year and a first rounder from this year.
Or are you just yelling at the wind?
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by 27freethrows on Jul 29, 2008 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh
OK, then we agree. On a team attempting to rebuild, we do agree. My bad.
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by 27freethrows on Jul 29, 2008 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
No 27F
He’s saying that when you turn 30 you die. That’s the whole premise of the movie he’s referencing.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I've been dead for 19 years?
Well, that would explain the aroma.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
maybe now you can do something about it
Now I can put my pink lace bra and panties back on. - Kfan in Korea
Yeah I hear that acne shit Puffy promotes really clears your skin up......
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I loved that movie
ahhh, farah faucet, when blond and leggy was enough
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jul 29, 2008 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
As much as I hate to leave the party
I’m sauced, and I got work in six hours. See you guys tomorrow.
Now I can put my pink lace bra and panties back on. - Kfan in Korea
Cheers!
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by 27freethrows on Jul 29, 2008 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
One of the disadvantages of living on the east coast
Everything comes earlier than the west coast. :P
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Burp!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Just thought of something
Who will we throw the ball to now? This team WILL NEVER SCORE AGAIN because apparently we have a bunch of players without hands – completely unable to catch a ball thrown to them, and/or to put it in the basket.
by Carl on Jul 29, 2008 11:24 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
This is why you should have never left Carl
Brilliant dude.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I love this deal
If he had to go….
(but wifey is weepy)
Didn’t someone (ianwash, smgmatt) say I was overvaluing Artest?
Two #1s!!!!!
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jul 29, 2008 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I think what people simply disagreed with (as I disagree with too)
Is that LA wasn’t a worthwhile trading partner because the teams were “rivals”.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
For me....
I didn’t think that two 1sts plus K9 would happen (which it didn’t) . . . but please take my condolences to your “SEND HIM EAST” campaign (at least it wasn’t the Lakers, right?).
Glad to know we’re both satisfied with the results. GP did us all a solid.
Yeah I didn't think it would happen
But I was hoping for a k9 removal along with a 1st rounder. That’s enough right? LOL
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Another positive, pookey
Now we won’t have to go through all of the salary scenarios that would give the Kings more cap space in 2009. If Thomas isn’t traded, then we’re simply looking at cap space in 2010 again . . . and that’s much easier to estimate.
Then again, if SAR medically retires and Miller is traded, we may be looking at it again anyway. Either way, at least we’ve got something new to talk about here!
No doubt
This whole circular argument had just gotten too much. Maybe Petrie allowed this to be announced to give StR mental relief eh?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I've been saying
That it was probably a fantasy to lose K-9 contract #. Oh well, maybe next year…
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jul 30, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes but he left Mikki Moore behind to soak up the remaining butter & crumbs....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Yeah, what did LPA say?
Something on the lines of, “If Artest is so great, how come nobody will offer anything for him?”
Of course, that No. 1 next year could end up in the 20s as well. Petrie seems to have luck in that range, though :)
I think what’s interesting is that all the other teams mentioned in the last month will start denying that Odom, etc. were ever on the table (Lamar, baby, c’mon, you know we love you, dude).
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 11:40 PM PDT reply actions
Two #1s!!! + BobbyJ
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jul 29, 2008 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Pookey
I’m curious: do you think this is better than your Wally World fantasies?
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jul 29, 2008 11:41 PM PDT reply actions
My Take
YES!!!!!
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jul 29, 2008 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think it's better than that
I do think it’s incredible Ron Artest is gone. Petrie may or may not have been willing to deal with Danny Ferry. I would like details on that as well.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Really?
Two #1s and a valuable, expiring veteran contract?
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jul 30, 2008 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I think the difference...
...is Kenny Thomas’s contract.
Had this deal included K9 for an Expiring Contract, it would have been pretty much perfect.
I Hate LA
And I lived ther for years rooting for the Kings while LA was winning
I NEVER thought they had anything worthwhile to give us (my primary concern)
Thought it was stupid Media hype about a trade all in LAs favor
Never thought it would happen.
(may they burn in hell)
eternal skeptical optimist
May I remind you that only one LA team raped the Kings in a trade?
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I could care less
I grew up rootng for the Celtics against the Lakers and will NEVER yield my spite
eternal skeptical optimist
by lietothegirls on Jul 29, 2008 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
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