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Ron Artest set for deal to Rockets

In what had been a quiet offseason, the Rockets are about to make a lot of noise.
In a stunning move designed to push the Rockets from solid playoff team toward legitimate NBA contenders, the Rockets reached agreement Tuesday with the Sacramento Kings to acquire gifted but controversial forward Ron Artest, according to an NBA executive with knowledge of the deal.
The Rockets will give up guard Bobby Jackson, a No. 1 draft pick next season and another player that the individual with knowledge of the trade could not name. Rockets general manager Daryl Morey could not be immediately reached for comment.

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I'm a tad surprised by this

But I figured if anything, the Kings would want Aaron Brooks or something. Not Bobby J. Also where is Kenny Thomas going? (If that wasn’t the deal Petrie was after what was it?)

Also, and I hate to mention this, but this could put the Kings over the tax by a few dollars assuming that they don’t let go Singletary or Ewing Jr in the process (highly likely if this deal is of course true).

Lotta questions, but I guess everyone is wrong.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 5:48 PM PDT   0 recs

Amick says

the other player is Donte Green. Finalized on August 14th. GP denies everything. here’s the link

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 5:51 PM PDT   0 recs

hopefully

that “other player” is Kenny Thomas

by kingsTV on Jul 29, 2008 5:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Not to fuck with you KTV

But the only player making nearly as much as KT or Ron Artest is B-Jax. So I don’t think what you say is even possible. Look for yourself if you think I”m shitting you though.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This may mean that no deal with Cleveland was possible

So much for my bitch contest with SB Lol. (I doubt this will make SB very happy though, or Sean Singletary. Then again Bobby could be bought out if this is true too. We’ll see.)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 5:58 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No

Bobby gives us a veteran backup at the point. Fills a need. IF this deal is real, I would assume no one would bite on K9(Woof!).

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 6:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's probably real assuming Sam has it and says it is

I believe it now that Sam says so. Or I believe that the Kings have told him real. I won’t believe it until Geoff officially announces the Press Conference.

Kfan, this is similar to what happened with Indy and Tor during the draft day trade including Jermaine O’Neal, TJ Ford and Roy HIbbert. Because Green can’t be included in a trade after he signs for 30 days, there is no way for them to complete it before August 14th or whatever day Green signed. I’m okay with that as there is time.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:06 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

If it is part of something bigger I am okay.

But I’d really like to see more happening. It definitely leans toward your expectation of the Kings playing young. We could have a player with less than two years experience at three of our 5 spots. 4 if you count beno as having really only played about one full season.

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 29, 2008 6:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah I'm definitely down with that too

Doing this in bits & pieces is much harder than doing it one fell swoop. One reason I had Cleveland as such a hot target. But I became a very very happy Kings fan regardless SB.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't know what to think yet

I need some time to gather my thoughts but at the top of my head. We got an expiring contract, no log jams on any positions, a nice prospect and a first round pick next year. I’m not saying I love this trade but I gotta look at the positives first.

by eduardo_m7 on Jul 29, 2008 5:56 PM PDT   0 recs

Me too definitely

I’m going to write an elongated fan post rest assured everyone. Just not now. Need more time, details and food to completely gather my thoughts before doing so.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 5:59 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hmm a young player who can fit into our future plans and a draft pick

I like it if Green is included.

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 29, 2008 5:59 PM PDT   0 recs

Yeah I aint trippin about Green, B-Jax and a 1st rounder

I was under the distinct impression K9 was a big part of this deal though. This definitely means that Patrick Ewing Jr is absolutely gone though.

I also think SB this is a bigger part of an overall plan by Petrie.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree

There is more going on.

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 29, 2008 6:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

See we do get along :)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It was only a matter of time!

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 29, 2008 6:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think your expectation of having a full time starter for Artest was naive

Still do. But it’s time to move on and wonder where some other players (Particularly Salmons, Moore and Miller) will end up now that this deal is supposedly going down.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's the other direction. Stockpiling youngs and picks.

I’m okay with that. But, yeah, it deels like Miller will be next. Could we have youngs, picks, and caps space. Now I’m just feeling all soft inside.

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 29, 2008 6:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

To be clear we were both wrong

And that’s that. (I no longer thought Houston was on the radar because of Morey’s annoucement and felt it was as close to 100% that they weren’t looking to shake up their team. Whoops. That being said I always felt Houston would be a terrific swapping partner for Artest for alot of reasons starting with Yao, McGrady and that’s ignoring his half season of past with RA.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's funny

I was looking at the trade machine earlier and was trying to do an Artest/K9 for BJax/Battier trade, but decided it didn’t make sense.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 6:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Totally willing to be wrong to finally have this put to bed.

And let me just say that I called LPA and she is dancing through the grocery store.

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 29, 2008 6:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep

You two were wrong, and CoolCat nailed it. “Artest will remain a King for now…unless Petrie trades him.”

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 6:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Classic Kfan (per usual)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Damn that coolcat

He must have an inside source.

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 29, 2008 6:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I only half wonder how he approaches the Kings from now on

The other half wonders when he shows up whether he’ll start with the tanking bit he usually brings up now that Artest is gone.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hater!

Sorry, couldn’t resist being the first.

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 29, 2008 6:49 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Why should you be any different? :P

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Your wifey is awesome IMO

I’d be dancing too if my stomach didn’t hurt from hunger and my mind numb from being happily shocked SB.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Gives us a

good possibility for the future at each position(Beno, Martin, Green, JT and Hawes) and 2 #1s next year and a solid 6th man in Garcia. I’m excited!

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 6:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And we'll have a ton of cap for 2010!

I’m suddenly very excited about the Kings’ future.

by CloudyEyes on Jul 29, 2008 6:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I expect this to be closely

followed by the Miller to Chitown deal to bring us back under the tax.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 6:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The Kings won't go over the tax for a variety of reasons Kfan

After all they don’t have to sign Singletary or Ewing Jr. That will give them nearly 900K of breathing room.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It'll be close

but I’m sure GP has it all figured out.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 6:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah it sure feels like Miller would be next

I like the feel of stockpiling youngsters and picks if we can’t get rid of Thomas.

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 29, 2008 6:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Dante Green

Rookie rank #13

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 6:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Where's JT at now?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

JT

Rank #15

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 6:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thank You

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So we may have

Two of the top 15 rookies this season. I know they are just rankings but it has to count for something, right?

by eduardo_m7 on Jul 29, 2008 6:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Not really

Marc Gasol was third at one point. Take this stuff for what it’s worth. I’m excited by this, if for nothing else that the Kings traded Artest finally!

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Now that's a good reason to be excited...

Beware though… the bitching is about to begin

by eduardo_m7 on Jul 29, 2008 6:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Fuck em all

Artest is gone and my fandom is in full swing.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ding Dong the witch is dead!!!!!!!

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 29, 2008 6:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hallelujah!

For Artest, this is quite a lot we’re getting here, imho, if Greene is involved. We get a temporary veteran backup in B-Jax, younger, long term help in Greene (who was widely speculated to be drafted about 14th in mock drafts), AND a first round pick. I say this is much much better than just letting Artest go for nothing.

Also, K9’s contract expires before 2010. I’m not sure why some guys are so hooked on absolutely needing to include K9 in every and any kind of Artest deal.

by CloudyEyes on Jul 29, 2008 6:19 PM PDT   0 recs

Also, this trade benefits both teams

...and we’re not handing LA the championship on a silver platter.

by CloudyEyes on Jul 29, 2008 6:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

All I have to say is that Rick is a brave brave coach.

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 29, 2008 6:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Plus Artest loved playing under Rick

So, I bet Artest would be pretty happy with this trade, too. Playing under Adelman and being on a championship contender.

by CloudyEyes on Jul 29, 2008 6:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I also love that ESPN got scooped.

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 29, 2008 6:23 PM PDT   0 recs

Fuck ESPn

That’s my official view. Like it or don’t. That’s their problem. I don’t feel scooped at all, and I don’t feel Houston is a bad trading partner. I’m just surpised on the Kenny Thomas angle, and the fact that the Kings got a 1st round pick, Donte Green and B-Jax. I’m good with this as you already know.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No

I’m just saying I’m glad that for once they didn’t get the news first. I’m totally on the F-ESPN band wagon.

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 29, 2008 6:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah I deifnitely think it's cool too

Actually I think it’s fairly cool the Chron broke the story first actually. Kinda proves the point about how Petrie leaks information. The Chron leaks it then Sam confirms quietly with his front office sources who say “yes it’s true.”

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thought he was on

vacation! That sneaky bastard.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 6:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Wonder if Carl is coming back now

I hope so.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And ESPN

has it up now only got scooped by 2 hours and 13 minutes.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 6:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm going to report what the Houston Chron writer says to Grant and Napes

If I can.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 6:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Amick is saying that the Kings will send one other players to make the numbers work

Who would that be? Has to be a fairly low salary

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 29, 2008 6:58 PM PDT   0 recs

Singletary or PEw?

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 29, 2008 7:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Either Bobby Brown Sean Singletary or Patrick Ewing JR

IF I had to guess I would say that Ewing Jr or Singletary or the two most likely though. But that’s not necessarily for the numbers Savage. That could be cuz the Kings are trying to stay under the luxury tax.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 7:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep. That's what I meant.

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 29, 2008 7:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah I realize that SB

But perhaps Houston was asking for Singletary or Brown, and it’s Petrie’s choice on who to give up.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 7:06 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Could be Douby.

He’s not getting any minutes with Salmons/Martin/Beno and Garcia/Greene/BJax ahead of him.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 7:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That could be true too

Give Douby a fresh start right?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 7:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Koz is saying something interesting too

That Geoff Petrie traded Artest because Salmons is a Petrie guy and Artest is a Maloof family guy. That’s why Houston made so much sense.

I love Koz cuz he’s so full of shit, but he’s funny. He’s bringing up Reggie now in the “throw the ball to saga.”

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 7:14 PM PDT   0 recs

I'm listening too

Pretty funny. Did he just say that the Orion Green/Dhantay Jones back court would’ve been a good one? I hope he was joking.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 7:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No I think he was talking abotu players who played here at one point

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 7:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well he was mentioning

guys we shouldn’t confuse Donte Greene with. But I’m pretty sure he said that would’ve been a good back court. Yikes!

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 7:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Listening to the Houston play by play guy Craig Akron (can't figure out his last name)

Houston PBP guy is saying it’s a win-win propisition because they’re giving up “nothing” in order to accomplish it. He’s saying it’s surprised that it didn’t include Battier. I don’t really think he understands the Kings have a logjam at SF anyway.

I’m happy with this trade on so many levels, but not taking a player like Battier is a major reason why I’m so ecstatic. Green has upside, and who knows how he will pan out, the Kings get a 1st round pick next year, and they get B-Jax’s expiring contract.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 7:23 PM PDT   0 recs

I think it's a win win

We get good return and Houston has little risk and high reward. It’s a good deal.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jul 29, 2008 7:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

this is why i love geoff petrie

because he lies in wait, using a combination of luck and skill to pull off something totally unexpected and completely exciting. classic, vintage petrie. i am unbelievably excited about this trade.

by beevenator on Jul 29, 2008 7:28 PM PDT   0 recs

Not to be a dick

But the Kings did flirt with Houston at the trade deadline a few months ago. I’m surprised Houston decided to go for it, but I think it’s a good decision for them. I’m glad Petrie got Green and a 1st round pick. It’s a great package to deal a poison pill like Kenny Thomas too. There are alot of ways you can do with this.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 29, 2008 7:30 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

oh no i see what you're saying totally

what i mean is that he did something that the media and fans didn’t see coming. in that way, it’s classic petrie. i think all this talk about having to unload K9 is not necessarily true. nice if you can, sure, but i’d rather just eat his contract and let the young pieces develop than give away pieces just to be rid of him. we’ll have a really insane amount of cap room, even if we do re-sign cisco, in a couple years.

it is so weird to suddenly be rooting for a team that has flexibility.

by beevenator on Jul 29, 2008 7:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs