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Artest issues statement on his mistake in not opting out

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Via Sam Amick:

I made the comment about making a mistake on my opt out clause because I really did make a mistake. I had wrong info about extension options and it could have cost me a new deal. I was informed that the kings had me in their long term plans so that's why I decided to stay in contract. I just wanted to show loyalty. However when I spoke to the kings that was not an option and I grew frustrated with my decision immediately. I do apologize for being mistakenly frustrated with the kings. It was a mistake that I made and I will move on from. I dont know my future but I'm still a King Haters:)

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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Nothing really new.

We all kind of figured this was the reason he was upset, so upset in fact that he ended his paragraph with a colon.

by moproblemz on Jul 7, 2008 10:05 AM PDT   0 recs

I think that's a smiley face

Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.

by otis29 on Jul 7, 2008 10:12 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed.

This is what we thought to be the case. What’s interesting is that it’s been a week and Ron is still just as frustrated. It’s time for Petrie to make a move.

by Carl on Jul 7, 2008 10:24 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Mr. Colon

I’m so sick of Ron-Ron. Actually, the colon really does remind me of Ron.

by jacquetbg on Jul 7, 2008 1:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

What's the Over/Under?

How many games will Ron Artest miss due to “personnal issues” or “5 minutes before the game he can’t play” injuries? I guess it all depends on how bad he wants to be traded.

He can shoot, and he looks great in a suit. Hey, everybody - It's REGGIE TIME!

by dalt99 on Jul 7, 2008 10:12 AM PDT   0 recs

My two favorite things

about this.

1. Amick posted the e-mail without editorial comment, either figuring it speaks for itself, or because he’s as sick as the rest of us of all the drama.

2. Anyone who would like to trade Artest for whatever reason is a Hater.

Ron, I think you’re a great player, but I’d like to trade you. Does that make me a hater? No. It makes me a Kings fan who happens to think you’re not a good fit for this team.

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by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 7, 2008 10:24 AM PDT   0 recs

Me too

I’m a hater
He’s a hater
She’s a hater
We’re a hater
Wouldn’t you like to be a hater too?

by Carl on Jul 7, 2008 10:33 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Continue the song!

Ron-Ron is a hater and he’s proud.
He’s part of a rich, obnoxious crowd.
He thinks that he’s better than them all.
We hope that he’ll be gone by the fall…

I’m a hater
He’s a hater
She’s a hater
We’re a hater
Wouldn’t you like to hate Ron Artest, too?

by jacquetbg on Jul 7, 2008 1:56 PM PDT to parent up   2 recs

Great song

I promise to sing it when Ron goes.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 7, 2008 2:35 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Make it a duet

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by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 7, 2008 7:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't kid yourselves,

there are more than two of you who’d like to sing that song!

In fact, if everyone who wanted to sing that song donated just $1 to TZ’s K9 fund we could wrap that drive up and start a new campaign by Wednesday at the latest.

The scab is off, the wound bleeds again.
-lietothegirls

by KK on Jul 7, 2008 7:35 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

LPA Thank You

i was unable to understand Artest’s last sentence until i read your second point, and i think youre dead on with your first point. (i thought he was calling himself a “King Haters” and thought he meant king hater but i see hes calling us Haters…i prefer to make hate with girls sorry RonRon.)

"everything was beautiful and nothing hurt"

by richmond02 on Jul 7, 2008 12:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's what I live for

To clarify the inscrutible.

It helps that I have kids that send me somewhat difficult to decipher text messages…

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by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 7, 2008 7:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hmmm....

I wonder if he now realized it was his agent’s poor advice that cost him? He does say he was ‘mistakenly frustrated with the Kings’. I know it’s been said before, but how can you not know if the Kings are willing to sign you long-term or not… was his agent over his cell minutes for the month and just figured he’d wait to talk to Petrie about it in July?

by cabz on Jul 7, 2008 11:09 AM PDT   0 recs

Correct

Typical of Ron…blame everyone but himself. He stylizes himself as Mr. Businessman Rap Mogul, and yet he can’t figure out whether to opt out? Give me a break.

by jacquetbg on Jul 7, 2008 1:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh Ron...

Dear Mr. Artest,

Why do you feel the need to constantly catapult yourself into the national spotlight? You clearly have been hoping to shed your reputation as a wild guy or a crazy person. We here at StR are accustomed to your antics, and your flip-flopping on your feelings about, well, any issue that you happen to think about. You flip-flop so much, you should become a politician (zing!). But like I said, we’re used to it. It’s just who you are. But if you’re trying to show that you’ve changed, stop e-mailing Stein and Amick for a few days. Lay low, do your job exceptionally well, and somebody out there will drastically overpay you next year. Hang tough buddy!

Sincerely,
Me

"Matt Lauer, up on NBC. You look like a girl, don't talk to me" -Ron Artest

by Exhibit G on Jul 7, 2008 1:30 PM PDT   0 recs

My Bad Ron-Ron

Dear Ron,
This is your agent. I have no other clients and have been e-mailing you daily, as well as faxing you, and calling and leaving messages on your machine about how the Kings don’t want you long term. I honestly don’t know how you haven’t gotten my 521 e-mails, 127 faxes, or 391 voice mails. My secretary, whose only job is to find various ways to contact you more easily is dumbfounded at your frustrations. We have even called the phone service and internet company to make sure that these communications took place.

Again, sorry for the lack of notice on our part. I will go ahead and re e-mail this again 2,476 times, and fax it as well. We have hired an additional girl whose job will be to constantly call you, 24 hours a day, and repeat these messages over and over non-stop until your voice mail box is full. Again, sorry for the confusion.

by LiquidPolio on Jul 7, 2008 2:07 PM PDT   0 recs

What about carrier pigeons?

"Matt Lauer, up on NBC. You look like a girl, don't talk to me" -Ron Artest

by Exhibit G on Jul 7, 2008 2:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Find something better to do, haters.

You’re feeding the beast. You all SWEAR you know what GP’s gonna do, so why fret about it? Just to see yourselves type? Ron IS the best player on this team(neck n neck w/ KM), and none of you bitched half as hard when C-dumb was going through the same BS of a different sort. Best believe that when the season starts Ron is on his best behavior, kicking ass and handling business. You’ll get your wish, he’ll get traded and make another team a hell of alot better while ours goes down in flames for another season or two. The best players for any team have always complained to one degree or another, it’’s the nature of the business.

Ask yourself, with that much money on the line, how far would you go to make sure you get it?

The wise man tells you Where you have fallen And where you yet may fall - Invaluable secrets! The world may hate him. But good men love him.

by Psychrates on Jul 7, 2008 3:15 PM PDT   0 recs

Uhm

Sure, we will try to keep our very strong opinions to ourself. Thanks for the help, Skippy.

Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.

by otis29 on Jul 7, 2008 3:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

What I would do for that amount of money

For the amount of money Ron will get for his “mistake” year, I would do terrible, unforgiveable things. Things that would make me unable to look people in the eye. But you can bet your ass that I would be willing to play hard for 82 games and not piss and moan to the newspaper about a decision I had complete control over.

"Matt Lauer, up on NBC. You look like a girl, don't talk to me" -Ron Artest

by Exhibit G on Jul 7, 2008 3:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Even if it meant

you might have a chance in hell of still getting that money?

The wise man tells you Where you have fallen And where you yet may fall - Invaluable secrets! The world may hate him. But good men love him.

by Psychrates on Jul 7, 2008 4:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Psych

The wise man tells you you’ve been sniffing something.

"Being loquacious and being right aren't necessarily always the same."
GP, the man, the myth, the legend, puts the smackdown on Reggie

by SavageBeast on Jul 7, 2008 4:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed

Great post psychrates.. I was wondering when someone would step up and post the obvious.

Along with many on STR, I wouldnt mind trading Artest at the deadline IF we get something good in return. He IS the best player on the team (Kev included). His only on-court flaw being that he was a “ball-stopper” at times. He more often than not covered the asses of the other weak defensive players in the Kings starting 5. Esspecially with it came to the Matador (Beno) and Kevin Martin (who cant be considered the best player on the team until he developes better on the defensive end). Kevin is MUCH more effective on the floor with Artest next to him…for a number of resons..

Granted, he has his issues, but I fully expect Artest to play like a BEAST this year. Many people on here will surely be eating “crow”, and much more open to the idea of the Maloofs opening up there wallet for him, than there are now.

Why all the hating? I can’t answer that one!!!

by Hoops916 on Jul 7, 2008 4:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah,

What he said.

The wise man tells you Where you have fallen And where you yet may fall - Invaluable secrets! The world may hate him. But good men love him.

by Psychrates on Jul 7, 2008 4:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe because the idea of rooting for Artest any longer

makes me nauteous like the Sonics did in moving to many long time faithful around the Emerald City and other parts of the NorthWest.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 7, 2008 4:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And why is this,

Hater of all Haters?

The wise man tells you Where you have fallen And where you yet may fall - Invaluable secrets! The world may hate him. But good men love him.

by Psychrates on Jul 7, 2008 4:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Nauteous..

A continued list of things that make me nauteous;

-Brad Miller playing NO defense and getting overpowered by EVERY big man in the league
-Mikki Moore contributing ZERO offense to the Kings
-Beno being made of glass
-Francisco continuing to dribble with his “head down” Year 3 buddy…time to clear that one up…youll clean up that “one stupid turnover a game” ratio if you work on that
-Artest “ball-stopping” at times
-K-9

the list goes on and on…But to root for a player who busts his ass every night and seriously thinks the Kings can win a chamionship year in, year out sure as hell DOESNT make me nauteous..I dont give a shit how many emails he send out to whoever the fuck he sends them too, the guy loves the game and is 100% business when he STEPS ON THE COURT. If people dislike him for his numerous public contradictions and odd behavior…just tune in for tip-off and ull love the guy!

by Hoops916 on Jul 7, 2008 4:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm sorry

But when you say “every night”, you mean the 50 or so games a year he actually shows up right?

Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.

by otis29 on Jul 7, 2008 4:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yea

he had injury/suspension issues last year…

No suspension looms this year and he claims to be healthy..

So yeah, i fully expect it EVERY NIGHT (barring further BS suspensions/injuries)

by Hoops916 on Jul 7, 2008 4:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And those haven't cropped up unexpectantly before either

We’re in for a full year of smooth sailing Ron-Ron!

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 7, 2008 4:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I sure

hope so Pookey! (eventhough I’m assuming your comment was sarcastic)

by Hoops916 on Jul 7, 2008 4:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

A positive response to a sarcastic one

Says somethinga bout both parties, although I’m not exactly sure what.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 7, 2008 4:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Beno gets injured at the end of the year and he’s made of glass?

by Ziller on Jul 7, 2008 7:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Even counting Ron's suspension and Beno's late signing

Beno played in more games than both Artest and Martin.

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by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 7, 2008 8:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes.

Hoops916 typed it so it must be true. Even though I think it makes him a Beno Haters:)

The scab is off, the wound bleeds again.
-lietothegirls

by KK on Jul 7, 2008 8:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks

For the vote of confidence KK!

by Hoops916 on Jul 7, 2008 10:18 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I hope that was meant sarcastically,

otherwise you’re a moron.

TZ, feel free to delete.

The scab is off, the wound bleeds again.
-lietothegirls

by KK on Jul 7, 2008 11:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Cmon man'

You know damn well that his “durability” is a question mark! That is a primary reason why many people (myself included) are a little worried about the length of the deal. I’m hoping thats a false sterotype but I figured i’d throw it on the list above anyway…

the issue that I was raising is that I honetly cannot believe that some people on here really believe Ron Ron is our biggest problem..I really can’t!.. I just wanted to raise issue with a few more problems that I believe the Kings have right now as opposed to Ron Ron-

Nothing against Beno..I just have questions about his toughness (as I do about mostly all Euros in the L)

by Hoops916 on Jul 7, 2008 10:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Durability issues in general are overblown. Examples include: Marcus Camby, Baron Davis, Peja Stojakovic—all of whom played just about the entire 2007-08 season. For a guy who has one season as a starter … yeah, you’re grasping to bolster your argument.

Ron-Ron isn’t our biggest problem. In fact, that he didn’t opt out and didn’t get a long-term deal from Petrie is truly the best of all scenarios. But I agree with Carl and others that this team will have trouble moving forward in the rebuilding process so long as everything off and on the court focuses on Ron. He’s not going to be the star of the next great Kings team. And at this late stage, he’s not helping Martin or Garcia develop. (I think he did at one point.) So spending all of our time keeping tabs on his email statements makes us wish he’d go away so we can marvel at the other Kings.

None of us have said he’s a bad player, and I think we’d unanimously agree he’s one of the two best players on the team. But he’s not going to be around, so why should we defer to his social gracelessness until the day he’s traded? Why should be stay silent when he makes erratic comments?

Furthermore, do you think Ron wants us to be silent? You can’t honestly tell me dude doesn’t love being at the center of attention.

by Ziller on Jul 8, 2008 7:07 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks

for the Reply TZ. I’m glad you were able to understand the fact that I “reached” a bit on the Beno comment. I agree that some durability issues are overblown, but there is plausible concern for many of them. I’ll give you the Baron davis example. but you could have came with something better than Camby and Peja. Look at camby’s stats on nba.com (I didnt feel the need to post them) and youll see that durability is NOT overblown when it comes to the Big diamond recipient from UMASS. As far as Peja, he played nearly all of 07-08, but he MISSED nearly all of of the previous season, so thats a moot point to bring up!

I’m glad that we are in the same boat in regards to Artest not being our biggest problem. Like you, I think that the fact he didnt opt out turned out great for the team. I’d be open to trading him at the deadline IF (and only IF) we get something good in return. Some of the possible trade proposals I see come up on this site are an absolute joke, which i’m sure youve noticed.

And I agree, he may not be a star on the next great Kings team, but either are Salmons or Garcia. This is probobly where I fundamentally disagree with many on this site. I see no reason why many feel like GP NEEDS to rid himself of Artest for the future. He’s young and (when not getting suspended) one of the better 3’s in the game. I think we would be better off to keep him around and send off Garica or Salmons (who I’d rather keep) for a solid draft pick or a mid-level big man or PG. I think that imagining a scenario where Garcia developes into anywhere near the player Artest is right now within the next 2 years is highly unlikely. No dissrespect to the man, because he has some aspects of his game that I like, I just see no flawed reasoning in the idea that Artest can be part of our future. Ive heard Kevin M. say likewise as well!!

And you typed “So spending all of our time keeping tabs on his email statements makes us wish he’d go away so we can marvel at the other Kings.” (sorry, dont know how to hyperlink.).... Cmon, TZ…. Ron ron is a light hearted guy who makes these dumb statements all the time. the fact that people on here want to rid the Kings of him for making these statements is one of the dumbest things Ive ever read on here. Maybe if we discussed them in the 1/2 serious manner in which I’m sure alot of this stuff is said, we wouldnt get alll emotional about this. Its like many of the people in here are more concerned with the daily Ron ron drama as opposed to what the Kings actually do on the court…Much of the bitching about Ron and his “emails” on here sounds like it comes just out of my girlfriends and her US Magazine reading crew…Who the Fu*k cares what he writes in email, so long as he busts his ass when on the court? And TZ, Who exactly do we have thats worthy of marveling at??

thanks again for the educated reply tho-

by Hoops916 on Jul 8, 2008 8:03 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Much of the bitching about Ron and his "emails" on here sounds like it comes just out of my girlfriends and her US Magazine reading crew…Who the Fu*k cares what he writes in email, so long as he busts his ass when on the court?

We do, obviously. Why? Because they show - to whatever extent they are serious - Ron’s mad. All the bad on-court episodes during his Kings stay - pulling out of several games under Musselman, doing the same under Theus back East, getting kicked out of the Utah game - have come from Ron’s anger. If Ron doesn’t want to be here (his emails indicate this is the case) then he’s not going to be the team player he needs to be.

How does it not matter? You don’t think Ron being pissed off at the franchise matters on the court, should he stay? You really think Ron has the ability to compartmentalize his emotions? Really?

by Ziller on Jul 8, 2008 8:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well

I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree..

I don’t necessarily think he is “pissed” at the franchise. I think that if anything, he’ll play his ass off this year cause he’ll be playing for a contract. He has said on numerous occasions that he appreciates the loyalty and faith the Kings put into him for taking him when many other wouldnt touch him.

I guess we’ll just have to see how this plays out….I just hope Kings fans who dont like the man root against him come tip-off

by Hoops916 on Jul 8, 2008 8:33 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Huh?

I don’t even understand this statement.

I just hope Kings fans who dont like the man root against him come tip-off

First of all, why would anyone root against a player on their own team? Secondly, why would anyone wanting to trade Artest root against him, when that would only decrease his trade value?

From what I’ve read at StR, most people like Ron as a person (“he seems really friendly”, “he’s very personable”, etc), but are concerned about the thought of having to depend on him on a long-term basis.

Please don’t mistake anyone who feels that he’s not the right fit for the Kings BASKETBALL team for (man, I’m getting tired of this term) “haters”.

by smgmatt on Jul 8, 2008 8:50 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Huh..Clarification

I left out a word in there..my apologies…

What i meant to say is that there seems to be a whole lot of hatred with aimed on Ron on this site. I wouldnt be surprised if a few people at STR actually hope he plays like shit so that we will definently not sign him to a long term deal.. Pessimistic..maybe?

And I only used the word haters to back up another argument. Since we have deepened discussion about Ron, I havnt used the word “haters”... So where you popped off with that one after many posts without it eing said, i have no idea

by Hoops916 on Jul 8, 2008 9:02 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't hate Ron

I don’t want him on the Kings. How hard is that fundamentally to understand? Maybe, you didn’t read the post on the numbers that TZ posted during the season, but it at least showed, in my view, that Ron’s talents don’t fit in with this team. Why is that so hard for you to understand? We know you disagree, but you seem intent at picking these points apart as if you’re the one on the line here. Are you Mark Stevens for real? Cuz nobody else, outside of Ron, should argue this intently. What are you? A Hindu Pentient?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 8, 2008 9:07 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I got ya

I understand your viewpoint Pookey..Its not hard for me to understand, and I dont mean to sound intent at picking these points apart. I just got sick of reading day in and day out people bitch about Ron’s “Non-Basketball” related issue as their reason for wanting to rid the team of him. I assume im not the only one.

by Hoops916 on Jul 8, 2008 9:52 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well then hear this

I want him gone for basketball reasons. The personal fighting stuff with Theus and Musselman just adds urgency to the matter.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 8, 2008 9:57 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Fair..

Fair enough brotha-

by Hoops916 on Jul 8, 2008 10:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

In my opinion

The “bitching” is primarily about Ron possibly hurting his trade value, not the reason people want him gone.

It seems to me that most people who get upset at Ron’s antics have already made up their mind that he needs to be traded (for value), and these antics hurt that value, which I hope you can understand is quite frustrating.

by smgmatt on Jul 8, 2008 9:59 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!

Exactly.

I want to trade him because he isn’t a good fit for our team, and all the craziness on and off the court lessens GP’s ability to get real value.

Most teams are offering us bench players and 2nd round picks for a very talented starting SF. Some teams wouldn’t even give up bench players to get him (NY and Denver).

It’s frustrating to fans because we know he’s a baller, and he can help a team who needs toughness, but by his comments and his behavior, he is showing himself to be a high maintenance, high risk player.

How many coaches, do you think, believe that Ron will never scream at them on the sidelines? How many relish the challenge of keeping him under control on and off the court?

He’s hurting his value. If not for his behavior in Indiana, he’s a guy who would be highly valued and worth a max contract to some team. But every time he misbehaves now, it makes other GMs more and more reluctant to take a chance on him, even for one reasonably priced year.

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by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 8, 2008 10:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

hmm

Where are you getting this information about other teams offering us “Bench players and 2nd round draft picks?” ..I hope you not making that part up. Aside from the Denver story that broke, I can’t recall reading, or hearing, of reported offers. And who are these “most teams” you speak of??

come trade deadline time, assuming he plays hard night in and night out and doesnt get suspended, i dont see his value being hurt much. Like I said earlier, I’d be willing to bet the Lakers (and Nuggets among others) would have done all they could to get him looking back on it. He’s a unique player that teams will ALWAYS be willing to take a chance on

by Hoops916 on Jul 8, 2008 10:23 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Geez

I hope you’re not making that part up??

The Knicks wouldn’t give us David Lee, a bench player.

The Nuggets wouldn’t give us Kleiza, a bench player.

The Laker fans don’t want to give us Odom, they want to give us Radmanovic.

Any team we’ve been rumored to be exploring a trade with is the same story. That’s what I mean’t by “most teams”. It was a generalization, but I think a fairly accurate one, given the knowledge that GP was trying to trade Artest at the deadline last season but didn’t, meaning that he was unable to get any real value for him.

And it seems to me that all your arguments in Artest’s favor rely on him being a model citizen, both on and off the court. It might be, shall we say, unlikely given his current state of mind, that your dream of exemplary behavior is wishful thinking.

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by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 8, 2008 10:33 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

hmm

It was a simple question I was askng of you. And NY didnt want the man for obvious reasons. (Lee is a crowd fave with a huge upside (in their eyes)/ ron Ron might not be the best suited to play in his hometown)... Denver was a bit worried about Artests’ pending option on his contract and they felt that Klieza was a big piece to their future….You mention laker FANS, (notoriously known as the most ill-informed group in the nation), ill leave it at that..

And yes, I must have a pinch of wishful thinking. Nothing wrong with being an optimist. He was far and away our best player in the 2nd half of last year and i see no reason why he can’t behave and keep the high level of play up.

I’ve been called worse things than an optimist, so I guess we’ll just ave to agree to disagree..I want the man to excel so that he’ll benefit the Kings franchise in every way possible.. nothing wrong with wanting that!

by Hoops916 on Jul 8, 2008 10:55 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Contradictions

First you state:

He’s a unique player that teams will ALWAYS be willing to take a chance on

Then you go on to explain that of course Denver & NY wouldn’t trade bench players for him, they’re part of their “future”.

Isn’t Sacramento planning for the future as well? Aren’t those the kind of players that we’d want to have since we’re not currently contending?

I believe that, in hindsight, Denver probably makes the deal for Artest, and if LAL knew what was ahead for them in the playoffs that they may have made an Odom for Artest deal last year as well . . . but neither of them did.

So who, EXACTLY, are these teams you speak of who will “always” be willing to take a chance on him?

by smgmatt on Jul 8, 2008 11:54 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

DOH!

That was a reply to Hoops, not LPA.

by smgmatt on Jul 8, 2008 11:55 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That's ok

I like to talk to you.

So, how you been? Summer going well?

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by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 8, 2008 12:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I like to talk to you too, we should do this more often!

Thanks for the reply . . . although after my correction I realized that I actually did reply correctly, but the thread is just too far over on the “Narrow” SB setting to see the difference (once set to “Wide” is becomes easier to read).

I’d call this a wonderful mistake, though, if it means getting some idle chit-chat in the process.

by smgmatt on Jul 8, 2008 12:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Sure

So how did you select your avatar?

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by LeaguePassAddict on Jul 8, 2008 4:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Never-before-seen perspective

I forget now which probe it was, but as it passed Saturn it took this picture on the far side, looking back towards Earth.

In the full resolution version, you can even see Earth as a dot between some of the rings, which I find fascinating.

I could go on about how it represents looking at things from a different angle, or seeing things anew by taking a different ap