I don’t even understand this statement.

I just hope Kings fans who dont like the man root against him come tip-off

First of all, why would anyone root against a player on their own team? Secondly, why would anyone wanting to trade Artest root against him, when that would only decrease his trade value?

From what I’ve read at StR, most people like Ron as a person (“he seems really friendly”, “he’s very personable”, etc), but are concerned about the thought of having to depend on him on a long-term basis.

Please don’t mistake anyone who feels that he’s not the right fit for the Kings BASKETBALL team for (man, I’m getting tired of this term) “haters”.

Petrie is also one of his “supporters,” and the only one that matters.

It’s a real simple equation: either someone offers decent value for him this summer, and Petrie considers that and maybe deals him, or he starts the season as a King and you guys get to gripe for another few months.

had time to compile a list of availiable 4’s yet. But Im sure that as the deadline approaches, more 4’s will become availiable IF Ron Ron can keep from getting suspened. (Yes, a big IF, but I think he will).. I’m sure a few teams, including the Lakers and Nugets regret not making a deal for him last year. I dont see that happening again-

And I’m not sure who I’d have in mind to be our 4… But I’ll be a happy man if neither Mikki Moore nor Brad are starting post all-star game

You are doing the same thing, assuming that Ron-Ron is one of the “best” persons on the team. Do you know him personally?

I’d venture there is a lot more tangible evidence to backup Carl’s point of view – exhibit one: causing probably the ugliest scene of violence exhibited at a major American sport. Exhibits 2a and 2b: domestic violence and animal neglect issues.

The other stuff (Circuit City, flip-flopping on his desire to be here, etc.), I’ll agree, that is dorky stuff that is more fun to talk about than being of real consequence. But that doesn’t magically erase everything else.

I was simply commenting on your apparent opinion that only dorks worry about the correctness of their grammar when posting.

Which, I suppose, makes me a dork.

You referenced the claim that he "left his team hanging 30 mins before gametime" to let them know whether or not he was gonna suit up.

He did this more than once, Theus commented a couple of times that Ron hadn’t even talked to the trainers about it, and while I don’t claim to have any insider information, my opinion, with which you are free to disagree, is that if you’re “banged up” you seek theraputic attention from the team’s trainers, decide on a course of action, and then inform the coach. It is also my opinion that if you aren’t “banged up” during shoot-around that morning, unless you were in some kind of accident, you aren’t too “banged up” to play that night.

Ron has my full sympathy about his daughter’s illness. It must be a horrible thing to go through, and if it were me, as soon as one of my kids had a life-threatening illness, the last thing on my mind would be basketball.

What a player does behind closed doors in their own house does not reflect a man’s professionalism. Professionalism is all about the manner in which you approach your job … aka your profession!!!!!!!!

You can’t make this argument, because Artest’s off-court behavior (domestic altercation) affected his on-court performance to the tune of a seven game suspension to kick off the season.

I cant even speak on your claim of unprofessionalism in Utah.

When Artest started his theatrics, the Kings were ahead, and the crowd was listless. He singlehandedly brought the crowd into the game (with a vengeance!) and then got tossed. The Kings lost the game. How many times have KG or LeBron been tossed for that kind of behavior? None that I can recall. A professional helps his team to win, and regardless of whether or not you believe that his antics cost us the game, which I do, getting ejected was certainly a factor.

And you said "And he doesnt fit our offense"?

Yep, I said it, and I believe it. Petrie builds teams around a motion offense scheme, with cutters and passers, assists, driving and dishing. Artest plays too much iso, and couldn’t/wouldn’t pass out of a double team in the paint. There were countless posessions where he brought the ball up the court himself and NEVER passed it to anyone, either taking a shot himself or turning the ball over.

but cmon man, look what he had around him

He had a decent point guard, an efficient two-guard, a two-time-all-star center, and one other player. All of whom had to stand around and watch Ron, a guy who IN HIS OWN WORDS believes that he is a talent on par with Kobe or Chris Paul. He seems to believe in his heart of hearts that the offense needs to run through him on every play. I disagree. I believe, especially in the more rapid-fire Western Conference, that playing half-court iso won’t win you many games, and makes you incredibly easy to defend.

And finally, stop calling me “man”. I’m not.

that you don’t have any better insight than LPA does. Probably less informed.

Tonight’s C. Dave’s highlights so far:

Ron-Ron: “I’m not crazy, I’m ghetto”

On Ashton Kutcher (who apparently dissed him):

Ron-Ron: “I saw that kid one time on the street and called out his name. He looked at me and his eyes got wide when he saw me and he ducked into a doorway” CD douchebag question (blah blah blah).

Artest (ignoring CDouchebag’s next question) returns to his description of AK’s behavior: I’ve lost the exact language but he described something like terror on AK’s face while he and CDouchebag giggle (I know there has to be a back story there).

I missed the next bits while posting but about 30 minutes later, CDouche suggests to Artest that he show up at training camp weighing 370-380 to show the Kings what’s up.

Both giggle maniacly,

Uck. I have no idea whether or not this was done all in cheek or not. (Knowing Dave a little, I suspect it was all meant as a joke).

But, once again, I am disgusted by both of them.