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When do we bury the hatchet?

 

Something has been eating at my conscience since the beginning of the summer, something so dark and terrible that I've barely even been able to admit it to myself. After all this time, I can't keep quiet any longer. I must humbly make my confession and submit myself to the judgment of the experts most fit to render a verdict: the loyal contributors of Sactown Royalty.

 

See, I consider myself a faithful and passionate Kings fan. Though I can't claim the 25-year longevity that some of you can boast, I remember the days of pinning my hopes on Olden Polynice and Mitch Richmond. I remember the excitement of 1998 and the crushing experience of taking Utah to five games only to have our hopes doused by Stockton-to-Malone. I remember the joy of watching Jon Barry and Scot Pollard give all that they had to give on the court and I remember that feeling in the pit of my stomach when I saw Scot and Vlade carry Chris Webber off the floor in 2001. And I remember hating the Lakers, despising Fox, Horry, Shaq, and Kobe. The “Beat LA” thread before the first game of last season drew me out of two years of Sactown Royalty lurking. I hate the idiotic arrogance of Laker fans and Phil Jackson's condescension.

 

But here's my confession: this past June, I found myself rooting for the Lakers to beat the Celtics in the Finals. Let me explain.

 

I'm sure I could come up with a whole list of little reasons, but really, it came down to two big things: I like the current Lakers' style of play better than that of the Celtics and I like the current Lakers' philosophy of building a team better than that of the Celtics. Let me start with the team-building philosophy.

 

See, the Lakers' core was built around high, risky draft picks that turned out very well (Kobe, Bynum), lower draft picks that became very nice complimentary pieces (Farmar, Turiaf), and reclamation projects that other teams had given up on (Odom). The Gasol trade which put them over the top seemed to me like a wise use of an expiring contract and a little bit of young talent to acquire a good player from a team that was looking to shed salary and rebuild. I really respect a team that's built primarily through smart draft picks and smart trades. Aside from Paul Pierce, I don't feel the same way about the Celtics. They had a number of veterans (Cassell, Posey, Brown, wasn't there someone else?) who signed deals for well below market value in hopes of getting a ring-- a move that's always bothered me (especially when Payton and Malone signed with the Lakers) because it feels anti-competitive. The Garnet trade didn't feel like a smart move by the Celtics, it felt like a former Celtic (McHale) was helping his old team to the detriment of his current team. Once again, the move felt against the spirit of competition, and I don't like teams that build that way.

 

Even more significant, in my eyes, was the contrast in styles of play. The Celtics were (according to Hollinger) one of the greatest defensive teams of all time. They played methodical, pounding basketball that was very effective, but no more enjoyable to watch than the style played by the Spurs. The Lakers had a fast-paced offense with creative ball-movement and multiple athletic scoring options. Which style should a true Kings fan prefer to watch?

 

So, here's my question: Have I committed some sort of Kings apostasy by rooting for the Lakers in the finals? If so, is there any statute of limitations on how long we need to hold a grudge against them? When do we bury the hatchet? Personally, I felt like we had even more reason to hate Utah than LA because the Jazz played dirty; the Lakers were just good and helped by a little shady officiating (which was not their own fault). But haven't we all moved on from hating the Jazz? Their current team holds no resemblance to their Stockton-to-Malone incarnations (despite Kirilenko's continued presence), so we've moved on. Though the current Lakers team still has Kobe, the overall feel of the team seems totally different from the incarnations I hated.

 

Is it time to move on? If not, when?

 

I, for one, look forward to the day when I can shake the hand of a decent, knowledgeable Laker fan (assuming any exist) and say, “We had some good battles back in the day, didn't we?”

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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I say we bury the hatchet when Kobe is no longer a Laker. Because he in his youth (…and this past offseason) represented everything bad about the arrogant, me-first, drama queen attitude of so many of today’s athlete, i find it hard to “like” the Lakers until he no longer wears their uniform. As long as he is in L.A., he will be the Lakers. He will be their ambassador, representative, and heart and soul. So until he’s in Milan, BEAT L.A. will be the warcry of this Kings fan for each and every Lakers game.

by Shizzo on Aug 18, 2008 2:29 PM PDT   1 recs

what will you do

if the Kings get Kobe in his I’m forty, but I’m still playing to put some distance between myself and LeBron on the all-time greats list phase?

by furious.d on Aug 19, 2008 9:45 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

forgiveness vs. permission

You could have asked for foregiveness, but instead you asked for permission. You can be forgiven for rooting for the Lakers over the Celts. I can understand that. In addition to the reasons you cited, perhaps a preference for the Western Conference over the East would be an adequate reason. History, also would be legit in this circumstance. I would admit to rooting for the Showtime Lakers over Larry Legend’s Celt teams back in the day before WE had our own team to root for. Old habits die hard.

But you asked for permission. Permission to move on. Permission to not “hate” the Lakers, and that my friend can NOT be granted. If you are from Sacramento, you hate the Lakers. Notice i did not say if you are a “Kings fan”. This is a regional thing. You hate the Lakers, you hate the Dodgers, and if they had a football team, you’d hate that too. You hate the Hockey team and how dare they call themselves “Kings.” You hate LA. You can NOT admire the Lakers. You can NOT respect the Lakers. You can NOT root for the Lakers as a “back-up.”

You must hate the Lakers. You must despise the Lakers, You must loathe the Lakers. Their championship is tainted by fixed refs. Stern paid off Kobe’s accuser. Phil has access to a secret herbal potion. The league orchestrated the Gasol trade, and black helicopters circle over Arco. That’s just how it is.

If despite all these truths, you accidentally root for them in a limited and unanticipated circumstance, perhaps after having consumed too many Lucky Lagers, you can be forgiven. The only hatchet to be buried is directly in their hearts.

by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Aug 18, 2008 2:54 PM PDT   0 recs

I know where

I’D Put that !@*!&!ing hatchet!

eternal skeptical optimist

by lietothegirls on Aug 22, 2008 1:33 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Your first fanpost

And you bring up this nonsense? Have you gone mad?

“longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller” detailed out the policy nicely.

Learn it
Know it
Live it.

Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.

by otis29 on Aug 18, 2008 4:32 PM PDT   0 recs

You can never get permission

You always hate the Lakers. Always. During the Spurs series you know who I was cheering for? A plane to hit the arena.

More of this brand of hilariosu insight can be found at vegaskings.blogspot.com and now reclaimingthetitle.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on Aug 18, 2008 4:51 PM PDT   0 recs

I'm not a violent person, but im ready to open up a can a wupp ass.

You cannot consider yourself a faithful and passionate kings fan if you bring up this crap. I had to move to LA for work, but i still support my kings. I wear my kings jersey in The LA public with pride, despite all the snickers and glares i get (and love those glares, though i admit the jersey isn’t getting as much stares as it once did.) And still, during the finals i stood, alone in the middle of a crowded LA sports bar, foaming at the mouth, separated from all the stupid Laker fans, screaming and yelling for the Celtics to BEAT LA! Even though all the threats and violent gestures directed to my person. DO YOU KNOW WHY I WOULD DO SUCH A STUPID THING? CAUSE I HATE THE LAKERS. I WILL NEVER RELENT, NOR WILL I FORGIVE. BECAUSE I BLEED PURPLE, TIL THE END.

by BearKing on Aug 18, 2008 5:12 PM PDT   0 recs

If you bleed purple, you're already haflway to being a Laker.

Just saying…

And since you probably urinate a shade of yellow, does that really make you one of THEM?

by cabz on Aug 18, 2008 5:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Damn, i miss our Black Uniforms

Why couldn’t just keep those old uni’s?

by BearKing on Aug 18, 2008 6:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I have found a friend.

I too, was forced to move to SoCal (Orange County), and I continually wear my Kings gear in public. I even drive to work with my Kings car flag the day the Celtics won (man, that felt good).

While I hate the Lakers, I hate everything Laker even more. The fair weather fans, the second quarter arrival and 5:00 remaining departure, the “Kobe was framed” argument (I openly dare any of you to pull that near my wife; I am 6’-5" and she scares teh crap out of me).

Do the Red Sox still hate the Yankees now that they’ve won, hell yes. The hatchet will never be buried, nor should it be. Rivalry is part of sports, a part that I have no desire to leave behind.

In closing, my favorite Kings picture ever. Why GIF’s dont work as avatar’s, I dont know.

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Aug 18, 2008 6:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I love that video!

Doug Christie gets man points for that punch. Dude, if you go to a Kings-clipper game, let me know. I wanna see J-Will a least once this year before he ends up in Europe or something

by BearKing on Aug 18, 2008 8:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll be there

I go to 4 basketball games a year. 2 vs. Clippers and 2 vs. the Fakers. I’m almost dont writting the most belated game recap ever, so check it out in a day or two.

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Aug 18, 2008 8:18 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Stupid typos

I meant “done” not “dont”

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Aug 18, 2008 8:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

4?

Sheeesh. We’ll strain the bank this year as always – half the season….

eternal skeptical optimist

by lietothegirls on Aug 22, 2008 1:35 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

But I have to pay LA prices.

I’m ashamed of how much I’ll spend on tickets for those games. Kinda.

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Aug 22, 2008 8:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

i live in OC too

on brookhurst and broadway in Anaheim. So if any kings fans wanna watch a game and your down here. please please please let me know. I love doug christie. What ever happened to that reality show they were suppose to have. They should being the reality show with doug talking about how he made rick fox his bitch. I’d watch that.

by BearKing on Aug 19, 2008 10:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Anyone...

have video of the tunnel portion of the fight? DC melts Fox with three shots and the look on Vanessa Williams face is priceless.

The wise man tells you Where you have fallen And where you yet may fall - Invaluable secrets! The world may hate him. But good men love him.

by Psychrates on Aug 18, 2008 8:36 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

One of my favorite pictures ever

And I’ve seen it for almost 5 years now.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Aug 19, 2008 2:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The best part of that picture

will always be Keon Clark with the “OHHHHH SHIT!” face.

by Travis Mays Hayes on Aug 19, 2008 9:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thank you!

I also love that part. It’s the male directed version of, “Damn, Gina!” (Martin Lawrence, you may not be funny, but I remember your show).

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Aug 19, 2008 10:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Bury the hatchet

when California is divided into North California and South California, when they stop taking our water, when the Clippers win a championship. In other words it ain’t gonna happen any time soon.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Aug 18, 2008 6:13 PM PDT   0 recs

I agree.

Hey Kfan, stupid question, but are you really in Korea? Your hard core brother.

by BearKing on Aug 18, 2008 6:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep

I am really in Korea. Grew up in Sactown though.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Aug 18, 2008 7:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Liar

We all know you just use that screenname to pick up chicks.

         secures number through chatroom
“Ahhh, baby, I’m coming all the way from Korea just to see you.”
         score
“Aaaahhh, baby, this long-distance thing, it’s not working. Bye. No, we can’t talk it out or meet, I’m in Korea. Buh-bye”
           girl gets visa
“Ah, baby, what do you mean you’re "in Korea”? Well, see, about that…"

Donte? Donte'! Donté?!?!
'spect da 'xtra E'

by iashwash on Aug 18, 2008 7:49 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I see the genius in your madness and i must try it myself!

I know what that’s like, (living in a foreign country while being a kings fan. I lived in the Philippines for about 10 years. The hard part was explaining to the people there where Sacramento was) I’d get to see about two regular season games in tv there, if i was lucky.

by BearKing on Aug 18, 2008 8:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

In China

its incredibly easy describing Sacramento. I spent the first month or two saying, “ok, its in california,”
 “ah, yes yes Jai-li-fu-ni- ahhh”
“ok, its near, San Francisco”
 - blank stares -

One time off hand I said,
“We’ll its call Sacramento, you probably haven’t heard of it.”
-explosion- “ah, bibby, webber, vlade! Go Wang Dui (kings name in Chinese)”

Now its easy. I just say “Sacramento” and they know all about it.

by Travis Mays Hayes on Aug 19, 2008 9:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

no dude

You can’t root for the Lakers. Maybe, maybe you can root for the Celtics to lose, but the thought “I want the Lakers to win”…. that can never cross your mind.

Rabid fandom makes that statement logical.

Donte? Donte'! Donté?!?!
'spect da 'xtra E'

by iashwash on Aug 18, 2008 6:59 PM PDT   0 recs

This is how I felt

Definitely rooting for the Celtics to lose for three reasons:
- the Redsox and Patriots and Boston’s ridiculous string of championships since 2001
- the Eastern Conference sucks
- the ridiculous way this team was put together
- the incessant hype

All of these things that Boston sports fans have been able to enjoy represent an affront to Sacramento sports fandom. I’m not saying anyone should root for the Lakers anywhere, any time, under any circumstance; I’m just saying Boston winning felt worse. I would have loved to see KG’s whining his way out of Minnesota, preseason SportsCenter ads, talking to Rachel Nichols about Ubuntu, and chest pounding culminate with him realizing that he would never win a championship until he learned to show up for the fourth quarter. But Paul Pierce (who I actually really like) took care of that.

Felt good to get that rant off my chest, thanks twasserm

by furious.d on Aug 19, 2008 9:37 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

what will you do

if the Kings get Kobe in his I’m forty, but I’m still playing to put some distance between myself and LeBron on the all-time greats list phase?

by furious.d on Aug 19, 2008 9:42 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

10 years from now?

Really? I have no idea what’ll happen them. Hating the Lakers doesn’t mean I detest individual players, just the team.

Donte? Donte'! Donté?!?!
'spect da 'xtra E'

by iashwash on Aug 19, 2008 5:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

But one case where I couldn't deny my affection for the Lakers...

…would be if, GOD FORBID, K-Mart became a Laker. My admiration and respect for him is too deep now to ever turn my back on him. So, in that scenario, I may become a Lakers supporter in certain circumstances (but definitely not against the Kings). Btw, I was born and raised in L.A. so it’d only come naturally if I saw Kevin Martin in those putrid colors after all these years of bombardment.

by Shizzo on Aug 18, 2008 8:26 PM PDT   0 recs

Take it back...

TAKE IT BACK!

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Aug 18, 2008 8:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well-written, boss.

But yeah … no rooting for the Lakers. You are forgiven, but don’t let it happen again.

(As some of the folks around here might now, I wrote columns for FanHouse after each Finals game. My financial interest would have been for the series to go seven. I was upset when the Lakers won Game 5 and thrilled when Boston clinched in Game 6. THRILLED. I lost money on the ordeal, and I couldn’t have been happier.)

by Ziller on Aug 18, 2008 9:08 PM PDT   0 recs

Your soul cannot be bought...

…and I love that about you!

(unless you selling your soul results in a Kings championship. In that case, sell away!)

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Aug 18, 2008 10:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

My rational, reasonable viewpoint.

Rooting for a cataclysmic event to occur during the game destroying both teams, even if it means the end of life itself as we know it for all mankind – OK

Rooting for the Lakers – UNACCEPTABLE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES

I hate any and all teams from Boston, so during the Finals I was preying for a catastrophic earthquake to plunge California into the Pacific during one of the Laker home games – And I live in Southern California.

by rsheldon7 on Aug 18, 2008 10:55 PM PDT   0 recs

Err...

preying = praying

Somewhat Freudian, I suppose.

by rsheldon7 on Aug 18, 2008 10:57 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Better question is

“Where” do we bury the hatchet?

Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.

by otis29 on Aug 19, 2008 4:18 AM PDT   0 recs

After having admitted to hoping that they’d win a series, naturally I’ll have to run away in disgrace and never post under this username again. However, let me share my favorite moment as a spectator as at least some scant evidence that I’m not a Laker lover.

2001. Playoffs. Second round. The year before, the Kings had taken the Lakers to 5 in a 1-seed vs 8-seed match-up. The week before, the Lakers and Kings had each dispatched their first round foes, 3-0 and 3-1 respectively. Game 1. Los Angeles. I was there, decked out in Kings gear and trying to smuggle in a sign (which got confiscated at the door). Line-ups were introduced and the National Anthem was sung. Right as the anthem finished, for one split second, there was silence in the arena. Only there wasn’t silence. From my upper-deck cheap seats, I screamed out, “Go Kings!” As the crowd cheered for the anthem and the people sitting around me turned angrily my direction, Doug Christie raised a fist, pointed at my section.

Sacramento lost that game by 3 (LA was 15-1 that postseason), but they knew I was there, screaming my head off with every point.

by twasserm on Aug 19, 2008 7:31 AM PDT   1 recs

You are redeemed. That’s an awesome story.

by Ziller on Aug 19, 2008 11:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Good story

sorry about the wupp ass thing. U just touched a nerve and the frustrated kings fan in me just snapped.

by BearKing on Aug 19, 2008 12:57 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Rivalries, Reactions, and Redemption

Twasserm,

There are certain things that cannot be done. I cannot fly, I cannot pass Clueless anytime I see it playing on cable, and I cannot bury the hatchet with the Lakers.

I understand the conflict you faced. When it became clear that the Finals were going to be Celtics versus Lakers, I was conflicted. I disliked both teams. For many of the reasons you listed, I found myself disliking the Lakers less than I disliked the Celtics. Pay close attention to my words, though. I was not a matter of rooting for the Lakers, or liking the Lakers (shudder), but rather that, in that series, I disliked them slightly less. The differentiation in my hatred was barely measurable by scientific instruments. It was so miniscule that basically I did not care who won. My joy would be derived from the fact that, either way, a team I disliked would lose. If both teams could have lost, it would have been ideal.

You mentioned the difference between Utah and the Lakers. You bring up a great point. I hated those Jazz teams. But I would say it was 95% because of Stockton. The Lakers are an evil entity unto themselves. As soon as he left the Lakers, I found Shaq’s antics to be funny and endearing. It was the dark cloud of being a Laker that made me despise him for so long. I’ll probably dislike Kobe even if he leaves the Lakers, but he can be the exception.

I agree with longtimelistener, ask for forgiveness, and it shall be given. But talk of moving on, and burying the hatchet shall not be permitted.

Rivalries are so important in sports, because they allow an outlet for our angst and frustrations. We need to have a villain. I hope that when the Kings win the championship, it is preceded by a dominant victory over the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals. Nothing would be more fitting or more satisfying.

Keep writing on here, even if you received a bit of backlash on this first post. There’s nothingwrong with stirring up a little controversy and discussion. In fact,I’ve rec’d this post because of the great responses it inspired.

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Aug 19, 2008 12:20 PM PDT   0 recs

i always loved the "Shaq-ramento Queens"

He was the one player on the lakers i could not hate.

by passionforPERPS on Aug 19, 2008 3:30 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I even laugh my ass off

when I hear the freestyle he made about Vlade. Gotta love Shaq

by eduardo_m7 on Aug 19, 2008 9:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

KFAN nailed it again

because this really isn’t about basketball. I was born in 1952 and from the time I can remember anything I was taught to hate LA. As Northern Calfornian we have to hate LA. We are really two states and the only reason that we haven’t split is because they have the votes (and our water). The funny thing is is that our regional anomosity isn’t shared by our neighbors to the south. When they think of us, if they think of us at all, is when they water their lawns, fill their pools, spray down their driveways or wash their cars.

This is bigger than sports and you can be neither absolved nor forgiven although what you do or think in the privacy of your own home is up to you. Did a Hatfield ever “root” for a McCoy? I think not. Go back and reread Romeo and Juliet, a cautionary tale. No good will ever come from rooting for any team from SoCal, especially the Lakers.

By the way, nice post and great story from the 01 playoffs. Go Kings

by Bluejohn on Aug 19, 2008 1:04 PM PDT   0 recs

It's very simple

No Kings fan may ever root for anything remotely good to happen to the Lakers as long as Phil Jackson is their coach. In fact, I propose a 5 year buffer between Phil coaching and Laker sympathy. If a Kings Fan Constitution is ever developed, Article 1 should definitely encompass all things related to the Lakers, including the terms I’ve just stipulated. I nominate pookeyguru to write the Preamble.

by AnotherStupidSN on Aug 21, 2008 3:44 PM PDT   1 recs

We can't count on pookeyguru for this

He doesn’t feel the blind hatred for the Lakers that most of us do. It’s one of his main character flaws, IMO. :)

Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.

by otis29 on Aug 21, 2008 4:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Pretty sure

Pookey secretly rooted for the Lakers too…..

May they burn in Hell.

eternal skeptical optimist

by lietothegirls on Aug 22, 2008 11:16 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't hate because others do

Do you want me to be one of the sheep that you’re requiring Kings fans to be that many Laker fans are?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Aug 25, 2008 4:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Absolutely!

Kevin Pritchard has Chuck Norris tied up in the trunk of his car.

by otis29 on Aug 25, 2008 7:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Pookey write the Preamble?

No Pre about it. It will just be an amble.

Let's go home.-Kevin Martin

by LeaguePassAddict on Aug 21, 2008 10:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Just because I don't have the internet doesn't mean I'm not watching you LPA

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Aug 25, 2008 4:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And just because it's funny

Doesn’t mean I’m not right.

Let's go home.-Kevin Martin

by LeaguePassAddict on Aug 25, 2008 6:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I give up

You win because I don’t feel punching a polar bear is worth it. :)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Aug 30, 2008 2:59 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Kings Fan Constitution

This…must…happen

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Aug 22, 2008 12:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree

Anybody here have encyclopedic knowledge of the Sacramento Kings and a shit-ton of free time on their hands?

by AnotherStupidSN on Aug 22, 2008 9:25 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

We The People

In order to form a more perfect transition game, establish justice, insure home court advantage, provide an atmosphere for more than just common defense, promote the general feeling that youth is to be served and leadership is to be valued, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our team’s posterity, do ordain and establish this constitution for Sacramento Kings fans throughout the world.

OK, who’s got the legislative branch?

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Aug 22, 2008 10:08 PM PDT   0 recs

NEVER EVER

going to stop my hatred of the Lakers.

by GOKINGS on Aug 23, 2008 1:06 PM PDT   0 recs

In my lifetime I've had to...

cheer for Greg Ostertag, so I know how to suck it up and cheer for someone I’ve truely dispised in the basketball world.

Root for the Lakers when Hillary becomes President.
Root for the Lakers when Sean William Scott wins an Oscar
Root for the Lakers when Kobe pleads “Guilty”
Root for the Lakers when Britney Spears wins Mother of the Year
Root for the Lakers when Michael Jackson becomes black, again.

If for some reason all 29 other NBA teams became deathly ill and the only thing left to watch this NBA season was the Lakers scrimage themselves, I would suggest watching Ricky Rubio highlights on Youtube all season. I’m a man in saying that my team was beat straight up by the Los Angeles Lakers………………………………………………………… and Tim Donaghy.

by the3rdK-Mart on Aug 25, 2008 3:06 PM PDT   0 recs

In my view, people that still hate the Lakers aren’t true fans of the NBA; they’re Kings fans, loyal to the purple and Northern California. That’s fine, but tend to be a bit more tolerant. To me, it’s as unrealistic to hate the Lakers as it is to hate the Jazz, since these games and experiences are long past.

Those were great days, hating on the Lakers at the height of the rivalry, but I regard the Lakers as no better or worse than any other team in the NBA. They have a talented team and the best player in the world in Kobe Bryant, and I was happy to see him so incredibly passionate about supporting his country in the Olympics.

I cheer for the Kings with equal fervor, regardless of who they’re playing. My support doesn’t change based on their opponent.

by jeremy548 on Aug 26, 2008 1:39 PM PDT   0 recs

We NEVER bury the hatchet.

This rivalry is like Chargers vs. Raiders, Yankees vs. Red Sox, Hogan vs. Flair. Wait, what?

I’ll bury the hatchet when…
- Laker fans stop shouting “81 Points” whenever the topic of Kobe vs. Jordan comes up.
- Laker fans recognize the TRUE champs of the 2001-2002 season.
- Laker fans keep those stupid Laker flags on their cars YEAR ROUND instead of only when their team is winning the Western Conference finals.
- Laker fans can name at least 2 other players in the NBA not named LeBron or Yao.
- When the Staples Center is full of real basketball fans before the opening tip and not half empty, only to be filled in the 3rd quarter with shades wearing celebu-tards on their cell-phones.
- Laker fans give Shaq the respect he deserves and realize he is the only reason they won their last 3 championships.

The likelihood of any of these events happening is .000189 percent chance.

Like someone said earlier, “Rooting for the Lakers – UNACCEPTABLE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES”

To admit you're a Laker fan is to admit you don't know anything about basketball.

by WaymanChilcutt on Aug 26, 2008 11:49 PM PDT   1 recs

Well said

I think you hit the nail on the head. The real problem is that the people who are Lakers fans aren’t actually NBA fans. They jump on a convenient bandwagon.

Never forget: I am a complete idiot

by Exhibit G on Aug 30, 2008 6:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Never bury the hatchet

How can we after Horry? Or Shaq, or Jackson, or Kobe, or Fox …

Besides, they are in the same division so the rivalry is good.

I was a Laker fan back in the Magic Johnson days before the Kings came to town. Now I consider it treason to like the Lakers.

by KingsFan on Aug 27, 2008 10:13 AM PDT   0 recs

Personally...

I will never bury the hatchet. I hated the Lakers before the Kings came to Sacramento, and I’ll hate them long after they’re gone. They’re just so darn hate-able. A Kings fan rooting for the Lakers in any situation is the height of tackiness.

by BarnesyardSportsManagement on Aug 29, 2008 8:45 AM PDT   0 recs

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