Updated Salary thoughts

by pookeyguru on Aug 19, 2008 3:42 PM PDT

This is going to be a very belated post with not much meat or point to the details. So much for being a chatty asshole.

With Artest's deparature, and Singletary/Ewing Jr along with Bill, you're looking at 8.3 million in less salary before you add the future obligations of Jackson and Greene. Or what you really have, or there abouts anyway, is nearly 62.7 in committed salary before you add Jackson and Greene.

Let's say that Amick is wrong on the salary, or he's not, and let's just say that for our purposes here today, in the sake of being belated, that B-Jax's salary is around 6.9 million. (NOt saying it is, but for today I am for the fact that I'm very limited in time.) Let's say that Jackson's salary is nearly 6.98 million, and that Greene's will be a shade under 972 K. That will be roughly 7,872,000 or so in committed salary assuming the figures are correct. Since you're looking at nearly 500K less in salary, and that's a chunk of change if you're talking about having to spend a dollar for dollar tax, rather than get a tax payment, and the question remains: Why wasn't Singletary kept? I don't think training camp would have cost the Kings that much overall, and certainly not the difference of inviting several players for roughly 50 or 60 K combined would be a big deal. After all, it is training camp, and we're talkin about a team with a likelihood of a 70 Million payroll. So the real question I think about the Artest deal in the aftermath, while some are speculating Udrih's worth, or how many points Kmart will score opening night vs the Wolves is, is what did Singletary do to not end up with a possible shot at this team in training camp?

And that, like most things I suspect, is the only real devil, if there are any, in this deal. If dealing Singletary was a financial motive, and it seems like it was on the surface, then it makes sense to deal him. But if it wasn't, and I doubt it will end up that way, then why deal him? That's the answer I would like more than why the Kings traded Artest. Because that's the part of the trade that will probably ending up haunting them more than any other.

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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Has Singletary been released by Houston yet?

Maybe I’m wrong, but isn’t the salary at the end ot the season, the one they use to determine cap space. If so, SAR’s retirement or any trades or releases during the season would have made up for Singletary’s 400K salary.

So, I’m thinkin maybe Singletary wasn’t a through in on the deal. Maybe Houston wanted him , and maybe Patrick Jr. was the thought in.

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by HighTops on Aug 19, 2008 4:02 PM PDT reply actions

Good Call

Trading BJax left Houston with only 2 PGs. They may have asked for Brown, and we countered with Singletary and Ewing. And we do have 15 players under contract right now, so he would have been cut anyway. His fate was sealed when we signed Brown.

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by Kfan in Korea on Aug 19, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Singletary obviously didn’t impress the team in summer league, as evidenced by: 1) the Bobby Brown signing immediately after summer league, and 2) including him as a throw-in.

by Tom Ziller on Aug 19, 2008 4:16 PM PDT reply actions

Singletary forgot Rule No. 1

Be yourself.

The guy was a shoot-first, pass-later point guard in college. Then he comes here and tries to give up the rock. Plus, when he did drive, they knew exactly what he was going to do.

Still, five games is not much for an assessment. But Petrie made his call immediately after by signing Brown. BJax being the throw-in in the Artest deal was just the icing on the cake.

by coolcatreportdotcom on Aug 19, 2008 9:49 PM PDT reply actions

I... I...

…agree with you…(?!?)

That was my analysis dead on. Singletary knew we (the Kings. Yes, I consider us "we") wanted a pass-first PG, so he tried to act like something he wasnt. Instead, he buried himself and got traded. While I liked his potential, I’d take Brown before him 10 times out of 10.

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Aug 19, 2008 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions

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since singeltary won me a t-shirt (which still doesnt exist) in the draft contest, i am a little bummed he was put in the trade. hopefully that wont be the crowning achievement of his nba career.

by Ball in Cup on Aug 20, 2008 1:19 AM PDT reply actions

probably?

you are prepared to say that a second round draft pick who most of us had never heard of and was a surprise pick by most analysts is “probably” going to haunt us? especially when that person was immediately replaced by someone most analysts believe has real potential? If GP believes Brown has better upside than Singletary, why invite both to camp and ruin Singletary’s chance to hook up with another team? I think GP did the kid a favor by letting Houston give him a look. I have no problem with the move and won’t miss a minute of sleep worrying about the “haunting” prospect of Sean Singletary becoming the next Nash.

by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Aug 20, 2008 10:51 AM PDT reply actions

Agreed...

I think Singletary has an okay shot at sticking as a backup PG in the NBA, but I think Brown has a much better shot at doing so (simply based on trusting Petrie, and the rumors that many other GMs were interested in signing him as well). There’s really only room for one of them to get playing time, so I’m fine with Petrie going with who he thought was the better prospect and sending the other off for a chance to make a team elsewhere.

I’d also rather have Bobby on the roster than Singletary, even though he won’t be a part of our future, but that just comes from being a fan of his game and his attitude.

by cabz on Aug 20, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions

Slightly off topic but...

does anyone else believe that the Kings two second round picks could have yielded the #28 pick in the draft on draft day instead of being tossed in as salary filler after the draft? Not that it really matters but, I think the Kings could have been able to obtain both Darrell Arther and make the trade for Greene, increasing the odds of finding at least one, maybe two and possibly even three long term players.

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by jjham15 on Aug 20, 2008 2:27 PM PDT reply actions

I think it's possible...

just like spending a few million for the pick was possible. The problem with that scenario is that another guaranteed contract would creep us into luxury tax territory, right? As deep as this draft was though, I think paying a small amount of money for the ability to take Arthur, Collins, or one of the other potential steals probably would have been worth it long-term. Then again, I was also for buying a late first-round pick, and I doubt the organization even considered that.

San Antonio was shopping their late pick and they seem to like to take Euros in the 2nd round, so I think a trade was certainly possible.

by cabz on Aug 20, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions

Back on topic

Does anyone know if the 700K Brad loses for his 5 game suspension still counts against the salary cap?

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by HighTops on Aug 20, 2008 4:51 PM PDT reply actions

I believe that the answer was posted before...

and if I remember correctly, half counts towards the cap (could have been none). If the team has suspended him, it would have still counted towards our cap, but since it was a league suspension different rules apply.

by cabz on Aug 20, 2008 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions