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Can't sleep? Love Olympic basketball?

I'm an idiot, and I'll be liveblogging the gold medal game. Join me if you're also an idiot.

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I'm just amazed NBC didn't tape delay it for the West Coast

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by Muff209 on Aug 23, 2008 9:52 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They are

It’s the US-Spain game from 2004.

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by section214 on Aug 23, 2008 10:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A.I.? Is that you?

by Ziller on Aug 23, 2008 11:29 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm still here El Guapo!

Lets blog it out

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Aug 23, 2008 11:44 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow...just wow

One of the best Basketball games I’ve ever seen in my life!

by CloudyEyes on Aug 24, 2008 1:15 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Its amazing how much Kobe sucked that whole tournament and now all we are going to hear is about how he won the gold medal for team USA

by GOKINGS on Aug 24, 2008 1:34 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah...

Kobe had an OK game at best in the gold medal game. If anything, I’d say Wade was the guy who stood out, IMHO.

by CloudyEyes on Aug 24, 2008 2:08 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

word

kobe took so many bad shots. a few fell at the right time, but he was clearly the player on the floor who was least dedicated to the team concept. Wade and Bosh were consistently great. amazing game.

by furious.d on Aug 24, 2008 2:09 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Huh?

Kobe didn’t play within the team concept because he didn’t shoot well from the field? He played astounding defense.

You’re going to have to explain that one.

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by kingme18 on Aug 24, 2008 4:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

because he consistently jacked up contested three’s when that was the last thing the team needed. It wouldn’t have mattered if they went in or not. It was exactly how the US didn’t want to play the whole tournament.

stop your sackriding.

by GOKINGS on Aug 24, 2008 6:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what he said ^

First of all, I didn’t say that he didn’t shoot well from the field (although he didn’t), I said that he took bad shots; that’s why I accused him of playing outside the team concept. When every player on the team is an elite scorer (except Kidd and Prince), and your team is far better than the competition, there is no reason to take contested threes and other difficult shots. He scored less total points than Wade and James, while taking 34 and 21 more shots, respectively. He shot .462 for the tournament and the rest of the team shot .570 – more than 10% better! He took 53 3PTs in 8 games (15 more than the next guy) and shot just 32, while the rest of the team shot nearly 40. Only James, Anthony, and Wade had more total FG attempts than Kobe had 3PT attempts. His assist to turnover ratio was 17:15, while LeBron’s was 30:17. I think he was probably pressing, and the fact that he was trying to do too much by himself offensively was completely apparent.

So you say he played astounding defense, maybe that’s why he was so bad offensively. Okay, but he pulled down less rebounds than Chris Paul, had half as many steals as both Wade and James, and half as many blocks as James. I know that a great defender does far more than what shows up in the box score, but he didn’t do much statistically, considering how much hype he was getting as a defender and how many minutes he played. My (admittedly biased) impression was that I saw him gamble or miss an assignment and get burned just as often as I saw him make a remarkably good defensive play.

In my opinion Kobe is the best basketball player in the world, so it was frustrating to watch him play so poorly with so much at stake, and at the only time that I will ever root for him. To me, it was totally clear that his relatively (to his teammates, talent, and minutes) poor play stemmed from his inability to play unselfishly. One final set of stats to really drive home the fact that I’m ignoring your argument, kingme: Kobe took 22.12 shots per 40 during the 8-game tournament, almost exactly one shot more per 40 than his 07-08 NBA regular season average. The rest of the team took 3.9 less shots per 40 than their 07-08 NBA regular season averages. Even eliminating the potential outliers of the guys who played less than 15 MPG (Prince, Boozer, Redd, and Kidd) and the point guards (Kidd, Williams, and Paul), the top five scorers – aside from Kobe – still took 3.19 less shots per 40 than their 07-08 averages. In fact, Kobe and Howard were the only two players on the team who upped their per 40 FGA for the Olympics; the difference being that Howard made 28.3% more of his attempts.

Conclusion: Kobe didn’t play within the team concept.

by furious.d on Aug 25, 2008 9:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Wow

Congratulations to you all, wonderful game…

by KingsFanfromCentralEurope on Aug 24, 2008 4:05 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The thing I liked the most

Was watching a game where the stars didn’t get special treatment from the refs. How nice would it be to see those guys called the same way as the rest of the players in an NBA game? It was a fun game. Very competitive.

Let's go home.-Kevin Martin

by LeaguePassAddict on Aug 24, 2008 10:08 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   3 recs

Absolutely agreed

That’s why I had doubts about this team of stars. Could they beat other teams when they can’t rely on driving into a crowd and getting a foul call every time? In fact, I wouldn’t have been surprised to see the referees call the game against the Americans, though I’m glad to see that didn’t happen.

It turns out that the US could and did win without benefit from the refs, so they deserve all the credit for doing so. Though the Spanish team might disagree, Olympic basketball is closer to pure basketball, not a game designed and refereed to highlight star players, as is the NBA.

by Carl on Aug 24, 2008 12:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+2

I could not agree more. Imagine how much better the NBA would be if there were not preferential foul calls. We should be so lucky.

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Aug 24, 2008 12:15 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

KMart wouldn't miss all those open threes

Just sayin’

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by vfettke on Aug 24, 2008 10:14 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Although

I will say their 3 point percentage was fairly high, but some of the bricks they forced were pretty sad.

Kevin Martin, line 1 holding for you. Your destiny is calling. - Section214

by vfettke on Aug 24, 2008 10:14 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Overall

the entire tournament was just a joy to watch (Bill Walton voice). But seriously, it was pretty amazing. Team USA did a complete turn around not only from how they looked two years ago but even from how they looked three weeks ago in Shanghai.
  Those two games against Australia and Russia they looked terrible. I really applaud Coach K for realizing what changed needed to be made personel wise and making them. In the Shanghai games Jason Kidd and Dwight Howard were both playing heavy minutes and just getting KILLED defensively. Jason Kidd couldn’t keep up with anyone, and the bigs for both teams were shooting over/ driving past Dwight Howard like he wasn’t even there. Both got increasingly less playing time as the tournament went on although they both kept their starting positions as to not rock the boat too much. Perfectly played by Coach K.
  The best lineup became clear in those Shanghai games with Deron Williams/ CP13 playing the guard positions, Kobe/ Wade/ Melo/ Lebron playing forward, and CB12 at Center. To see that as a fan, then see the coach see the same thing and act on it was very pleasing. I can’t count the number of times and entire fan base has seen an ideal lineup with their team and because of outside forces (money, reputation, stubbornness) see the coach refuse to make the obvious changes needed to win (cough cough, Bibby over Beno, cough cough).
  More obvervations: I didn’t realize how good Chris Bosh is. I would LOVE to have him on the Kings. He can shoot, rebound, and defend inside. Maybe more importantly, he can defend on the wing and not get beat off the dribble, he can run the court (all things Howard sucked at). He also seems to be a great team guy. Above everyone, I don’t think it is a stretch to say he was the most important player on this team. By that I mean that if you took him away but kept everyone else, we might not have won the tournament. If you took away CP3 we still have Deron Williams, ditto for Kobe, Lebron, Melo, Wade. If you took away Bosh we have Boozer and Howard. Even if you replaced him the next guy on the list was Tyson Chandler, who I am not too fired up about.
  After watching the whole tournament, I think that Rasheed Wallace would be PERFECT for the FIBA style. He and Bosh playing together would dominate. Unfortunately he will never make it because of his history. Beyond that I can’t think of too many other American bigs we can turn to in the future. Demarcus Aldridge? Ideas anyone?
  On to Spain, Ricky Rubio is a pretty solid prospect, but their best player (including Pau Gasol) is Rudy Fernandez. He consistently stepped up all tournament. He plays with poise (Rubio has none), under control and his athleticism is monstorous.
  Marc Gasol is Bill Wennington without the 15 foot jump shot. He is Ostertag without the height. He is Scot Pollard without the talent. He is Oliver Miller without the SlimFast. He sucks. I have to completely disagree with you TZ. I watched five or six Spain games and never saw one flash of anything out of Marc Gasol. He is slow, fat, a bad shooter, a sub-par rebounder, an AWFUL freethrow shooter and generally doesn’t ever seem to have a clue what is happening on the court. By the second half of the gold medal game my friends and I came up with one way to ensure a Spain victory: USA rides Jason Kidd, and one way to ensure a loss: Spain rides Marc Gasol.
  Throughout the tournament I thought the Australian team was the most likeable and the most fun to watch. All hardworking guys with huge attitudes. Their style of play resembles the American’s toughness to the European finesse game. And Patrick Mills is sick.
  Ok, that’s all out of me for now. I might think of more later though. Stoked about the whole tournament and can’t wait for 2010.

by Travis Mays Hayes on Aug 24, 2008 11:46 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Glad you enjoyed it

Proof that the Olympics does have some worth (would have to convince me but whatever).

That being said Gasol is well liked by many NBA people. David Thorpe continues to rank him among the 10 best rookies despite not playing a game.

It’s hard to rate Rubiio’s pro prospects until NBA scouts scout him with a severly evil eye. Until he passes that test, no matter what any of us says, it’s all just bullshit at this point.

 You’re stoked for the 2010 FIBA tournament?

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by pookeyguru on Aug 25, 2008 4:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah definately

I’m stoked for international basketball tournaments as a whole. The vibe in the stadium was completely different from any NBA game I have been to save for the Cowbell years at Arco. The Greek fans showed up to games with 2 massive base drums and were singing and chanting through the entire game I went to (spain vs. greece). The Spanish, Lithuanian and Argentinean fans all came out in force and had a million and one songs to sing through the games. There was absolutely no need for in-game music or top 40 hits during breaks. It felt much more authentic than anything I have seen in a long time. I would compare it really closely to the NCAA tournament, but with much better talent.
  The difference between this tournament (and any one in the future) vs. the those from the past is that you really get the feeling any team can knock off any team. China took Spain to overtime and should have won in regulation. Australia beat Lithuania by 30 something points. The Argentina vs. Lithuania game that kicked off the tournament was an amazing game with Linas Klieza hitting a 3 at the buzzer to win.
  Also, I agree Ricky Rubio is hard to judge even after watching him. Part of that is because I think he is just too young to predict and he could go either way. Marc Gasol on the other hand, you could show me 1001 scouting reports calling him the second coming of Shaq and I would trust my own two eyes. TZ, you watched the final game, what did you see differently?

by Travis Mays Hayes on Aug 25, 2008 6:31 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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