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The Crystal Ball

It typically takes most rookies 2-3 years to become good players. However, I believe you can tell a lot from their success in the Vegas Summer League as a rookie (I don't necessarily give as much credence to a player in their 2nd or 3rd year doing well because they they should do well against the incoming rookies if they are ever going to amount to anything). For example, take a look at the summer league statistics in 2005:

http://vegassummerleague.nba.com/statistics.cfm?season=2

You'll notice a lot of the players on that list are now the most desireable in the league. This is not always the case as some players' play simply doesn't translate or they are stuck in a tough situation for playing time or they simply get injured, but 2005 is particularly compelling as nearly everyone at the top of the list is now a valuable contributor if not an outright star. Now, take a look at this years' statistics:

http://www.nba.com/summerleague2008/statistics/index.jsp

I would be willing to bet that Bayless, Randolph and Greene (as rookies who did well in the summer leagues) go on to have success at the next level (Tucker and Douby aren't as impressive because this isn't their first go-around).

I don't want to read to much into this, but it is something (as we rebuild) to keep track of.

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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Interesting point to be made

And if nothing else, it’s worth noting that almost every team in the league seemed interested in watching all the young talent and not just the team they sent. Clearly scouting is a huge part of Summer League for team GM’s.

Pretty well thought out point R-Man.

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by pookeyguru on Aug 5, 2008 12:09 PM PDT   0 recs

Not to mention Brown

Who was #3 in assists. Defnitely some intersting things to think about.

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by SavageBeast on Aug 5, 2008 2:35 PM PDT   0 recs

My opinion

is Douby showed what kind of player he could be at summer camp. I was impressed with the way he carried the team. Till then I was beginning to think he was a bust. Now I think he’s a keeper and is ready to take the next step.

by KingsFan on Aug 6, 2008 9:51 AM PDT   0 recs

Agreed 100%

Unfortunately it’s probably not here, as Kevin Martin is going to eat most of those minutes.

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by section214 on Aug 6, 2008 12:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

B-Jax's arrival is not going to help this either

He’s not really a Point for whatever it’s worth. He’s almost entirely a scoring Point.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Aug 6, 2008 12:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I have a feeling

Douby has a different plan. I won’t be surprised to see Douby ahead of B-Jax in the rotation this year. Douby is ascending and B-jax is descending. No disrespect to Bobby, I love the guy but the age factor is hard to deny. Plus there is the whole youth movement as the Kings rebuild. There may also be a directive to showcase Douby to increase trade value.

by KingsFan on Aug 6, 2008 1:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Douby can defend smallish 2's that B-Jax never could do very well

We all loved Bobby of yesteryear, but that guy isn’t available. The Rockets I don’t think were going to trade him either.

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by pookeyguru on Aug 6, 2008 1:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

2006 and 2007 years

Sure, the players at the top of the charts can show promise, but I think it’s about 50/50 that they’ll become a star…

2006:
http://vegassummerleague.nba.com/statistics.cfm?season=3 (Justin Williams averaged 11/10/1.8 …ugh, I’m still bitter that we cut him)

2007:
http://www.nba.com/summerleague2007/statistics/index.jsp (Hawes averaging a measly 16.6/5.4/0.6 in 33 mins of play his first time out)

by CloudyEyes on Aug 6, 2008 6:09 PM PDT   0 recs

Edit..

Justin Williams in 07 averaged those numbers*

by CloudyEyes on Aug 6, 2008 6:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

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