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This is a subject more complicated than can be explained in a game recap, but it's the biggest problem for the Kings defense: Sacramento does not make opponents take many long twos. So many opponent FGAs come from near the rim or from three. Long twos are the least efficient shot in the game: fewer fouls are drawn than with close shots and the make percentage will be less on average, and there's no 50% bonus you get from threes. There's a huge inverse relationship between opponent long 2PAs per ppponent FGAs and opponent shooting. Teams who force their opponents to shoot long twos tend have better defenses.

How do you force those shots? You cover the three-point line, for one. And you cover for your friends in the paint. If Beno Udrih gets blown by and no one rotates quickly, you have a Luke Ridnour lay-up or free throws. If someone rotates in time, Ridnour might need to pass off to a jump-shooter, a cutter or he'll need to pull-up. Maybe Ridnour keeps driving, maybe it works out for him and maybe it doesn't. But he knows you're rotating now. And if you consistently rotate, you can force the opponent to try a different tact. You don't need one of the game's best shot-blockers to change the opponent's attitude. He'll learn that your rotations are making shots in the paint more difficult, and he'll end up adjusting ... whether he wants to or not.

The threes come from two main factors, it seems: screens and bad doubles. The bad doubles -- that's easy to solve: stop doubling a post player 15 feet from the basket, double off the right shooter (i.e. NOT RASHARD LEWIS) if you must, understand who is responsible for the double so that both wing defenders aren't running around confused as to who is supposed to do what.

The screens -- Beno Udrih just started to fight over the screens to cover the three on Friday, and the 41st game of the season. The other wing defenders have typically followed the same pattern, slipping under the screens. This results in  (get ready for the reveal) ... open threes! Redd's a bit different -- he got the Reggie Miller screens that we always yelp Martin should be getting. But there's never any recognition, never any communication. There are ways to defend the off-ball screens, but I harbor no false hope that the Kings as presently constructed could possibly pull off a defensive strategy, let alone a difficult one requiring trust and communication. If teams run gunners off double-screens, they will get open threes. Accept it. John Salmons can stop it for a while, but Milwaukee's fourth seemed more like a committment to getting others in the ledger instead of making Redd overcome Salmons' great defense.

A mea culpa means nothing, but I would like to admit I sincerely underestimated how much the mediocre '06-08 Kings defense relied on Ron Artest's defensive communication. Ron-Ron yelled a lot, he pointed a lot. And while he didn't take his famous pride in truly fierce defense last year as he did in the '05-06 run, his committiment to communicating and running the defense as a quarterback helped everyone else. The difference between Salmons and Artest in man defense on the standard two-guard/small forward is small, as the fourth quarter against Redd showed. But Salmons almost never talks, the Kings have no anchor to call out rotations and screens, and the frontline isn't quick/smart enough right now to recover from that. Ron wouldn't be able to stop Ridnour from leaving Beno in cement. But his mouth might have helped Brad Miller realize the need for a rotation more quickly.

If Kenny Natt could find a way to inspire Salmons to serve as the defensive quarterback, it'd be an immense help to the defense. Maybe in time, Jason Thompson (who is incredibly smart but doesn't quite seem to fully understand the defensive rotations Natt wants) or Spencer Hawes (also smart, also slow to react) can serve this purpose. But Salmons needs to be that guy right now. I don't harbor any hopes that will actually happen, of course.

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I don’t know the degree which defense can be taught. I’d say it’s very low. Especially for players in their late 20s. Either you’re a good defender or not at that age.

PS. Where’s Hawes? :(

by ZenBaller on Jan 17, 2009 9:03 AM PST reply actions  

Ron as a defensive quaterback is nice comparison to Ray Lewis and the Ravens

Maybe Ron will also corrall his extreme behavior. Nice post and observations.

Look at the Bucks – they compare very much with the Kings in personal but have a “Defensive Coach” in Scott Skiles. They have a -0.5 differential in total points scored/allowed and a 20-22 record. Discussion for discussion sake; do you think this Kings team with Skiles at the helm would fare better than they have this year?

by betweentheeyes on Jan 17, 2009 9:08 AM PST reply actions  

I definitely think they would as hes a proven coach in the NBA.

The lack of continuity and responsibility present in the Theus era could be responsible for a lot of this mayhap. I am just glad that JT had 20 and 10

There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru

by moproblemz on Jan 17, 2009 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, actually

For all the faults of coaches like Skiles and Avery Johnson (namely that their players burn out on them quickly), it’s hard to argue with the results. Milwaukee, with similar personnel, was absolutely atrocious on defense last year. Skiles has them in the top 10 (although the Kings offense performed well last night).

by Tom Ziller on Jan 17, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Good Stuff TZ

Something to look out for, when I’m able to watch the games on a consistent basis.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 17, 2009 9:49 AM PST reply actions  

Supplementary thought

Is anyone else worried with Spencer’s lack of production, or is that simply a function of totally reduced mins?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 17, 2009 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Hawes looks tentative

He doesn’t seem to have that fire he had in the first 20 games of the season. I wonder if he’s still ginger from the ab strain, he sure runs like it.

by discocricket on Jan 17, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Wasn't the big game vs. Miami after the ab strain?

Asking, because I’m on the run and I can’t remember. I think that Spencer’s drop off in procuction has coincided with the emergence of Brad’s game recently. Natt has shown the penchant for playing the hot hand (painting with a broad brush with this team). Perhaps Spencer is just a short term victim of Brad’s recent production.

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by section214 on Jan 17, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Spencer is suffering from the same problem that JT had when he was struggling

Playing along side Mikki Moore kills the production of the young bigs, with JT playing well hopefully Natt will establish a 3 man rotation with Miller, JT and Hawes if he does I think you will see Soencer’s production improve. Last night Spencer played much better when he was in with Miller or JT then the bad strech in the first quarter with Moore(also when the game got out of hand)

by Beagle12 on Jan 17, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

It's funny

You’re killing Natt for JT’s lack of PT, and partnership, and now you’re doing the same with Spencer. It’s funny, because you are right in both cases. Miller is the only big worth playing on this team, other than JT & Spencer, and the KIngs should be looking for all available trades in B-Miller’s case.

It’s very clear the Mikki Moore ship has sailed here.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 17, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Mikki

He doesn’t even bother to tie his hair anymore in the second half.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 17, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

few things

I did not like JT not playing the last 27 minutes of the GS game, I also think Hawes should have played in the last 27 minutes of the GS game. I thought Natt shouldd have subed JT out in the middle of the fourth quarter last night and put Spencer in so JT would have been fresh for the final couple of minutes of the game.

I think Mikki Moore is a good person but when JT or Spencer are paired with him the other team doesn’t guard Moore and pack their defense in and it takes away space for the other forward to operate.

I do not like some of Natt’s sub patterns or line-ups that he plays.

I do think the kings have been playing better with everybody healthy, there has only been one king that has played in all 42 games this year.

by Beagle12 on Jan 17, 2009 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

I’m kinda hoping the Kings buy out Mikki Moore, but they won’t do that. Won’t even bother with it. Which is frustrating, but the way it is.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 18, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Defensive accountability

The Kings have none. So an opposing player drops 44 points on them. Whose fault was it? All the Kings players simply shrug their shoulders, none wanting to take any blame. Ahh but isn’t that a little too convenient?

So a Kings player scores 24 and he his exalted as an NBA elite. But what was over looked is that his counterpart put up 44. Is the 24 points really much of an accomplishment? Wouldn’t a more accurate method of gauging performance be to call it a -20?

The way I see it, the Kings problem with defense is they rely too much on the zone and too much switching. “Team defense” is just a smoke screen to hide ones own lack of effort. Last night Redd went off but who was guarding him? Kmart? JT? Beno? Salmons? BJax? The truth is all of the above plus the rest.

by KingsFan on Jan 17, 2009 11:07 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Great article

I do see Spencer and /or Thompson becoming our defensive communicators. Both are competitive players on both ends of the court and are smart for their ages. They just need a couple of NBA seasons to start understanding what’s going to happen on each play. I remember watching a report on Team USA where Chris Bosh talked about being the defensive communicator for the USA squad as he could see what was going on at all times and could tell the perimeter guys what’s coming. You only get that with experience.

Your article puts the pieces together why the Kings defense is so bad. I’ve never felt like they don’t try on defense, most of the time at least, it’s more to do with bad decisions and no comm. I guess that’s going to happen when our only good big man defenders are a 2nd year player and a rookie and our best defender has the expression of a guy watching Sex and the City: The Movie with his wife.

smell the ashes

by iamstern'skippah! on Jan 17, 2009 1:07 PM PST reply actions  

No floor leader + no emotional leader

There’s talent on this roster to be a .500 team more or less. As betweentheeyes points out, those two teams last night are very comparable talent-wise.

KM will never be that guy, Salmons will never be that guy, Beno will never be that guy – its just not in thier personalities.

We need a ‘personality guy’, a firey guy in the starting line-up to inspire the team before our young guys, Hawes especially – is ruined and this pattern goes on for years.

Mea Culpa accepted from those of us who worried what would happen when that fire, that determination, was removed by the subtraction of Artest.

Here’s the linkto my pre-season concerns and the comments that were made for those who would like to review.

http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2008/7/30/582791/who-will-bring-the-fire

Regardless, where do we go from here??

So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,

Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 17, 2009 1:19 PM PST reply actions  

Build a bonfire in front of Arco

Maybe that will get these guys to play better defense & bring more passion. You know, appeal to their caveman roots. If you really want these guys to play inspired, pour gas on the thing to get it burning that extra degree of heat you require.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 17, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Not a bad idea!

name me a good team who doesn’t play with fire and emotion and I’ll accept your sarcasm.

Name me a very good team that plays clinically and I’ll show you thier fist rounds exits.

So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,

Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 17, 2009 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

The Spurs are pretty clinical

and the Stockton/Malone Jazz teams were very even keeled. Not a lot of chest thumping going on on any of MJ’s bulls teams either with the exception of Rodman. But I wouldn’t say any of those teams lacked heart.

This is where your critic of the current Kings team fails.

You keep calling for a Garnett-chest-thumping-fire guy and that’s not necessary. Now if you believe the Kings have no heart, that’s a discussion that makes sense, but Mikki and Cisco, and Artest and Bibby all talk/talked trash for very mediocre Kings teams.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jan 17, 2009 7:15 PM PST up reply actions  

All nonsense

1. Did you watch the bulls?
2, Did you watch the jazz exit early far too often?
3. I didn’t call for ‘chest thumping’ I called for emotion, fire, the determination to defeat, destroy, dominate. Those displays you’re talking about are the salad dressing, not the main course. I guess you hate Cisco?
4. We’d be a .500 team with Artest.
5. What is heart? Its not emotion? Its not steely determination to WIN?

6. You’re too often a long-winded blusterer who ’don’t know shit’.

But – its been a long season for everyone.

So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,

Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 18, 2009 2:55 AM PST up reply actions  

WTF?

1. Yes
2. No, they competed and competed well for a long time often with only 2 good players.
3. Maybe we have a semantics issue and no I don’t hate Cisco.
4. We weren’t a .500 team last season, not sure why we’d be one this year.
5. Are you saying there are no players on this team that have determination and want to win? I disagree. Are you saying the Jazz didn’t have determination?
6. Don’t know where the fuck that came from, but fuck you too.

I really don’t understand your position. It seems according to you that Garnett has this fire, Artest has this fire, but Stockton and Malone didn’t, and no one on the current Kings roster has it. You lost me.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jan 18, 2009 3:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Apparently no Bull in the 90's was an All-Star/HOF other than Jordan or Pippen either

Take this crap for what it’s worth.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 18, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh?

6. You posted at 2.55; where you drunk?
6, Did your wife throw you out of bed?
6. You’re out of line, regardless how long the season is

ps -YOU don’t know squat, I’M the long winded blusterer who “don’t know sh*t”

"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley

by Bluejohn on Jan 18, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Name me a very good team that plays clinically and I’ll show you thier fist rounds exits.

The Spurs. Tim Duncan is so cool he could do surgery while he hits bank shots. Tony Parker isn’t what I’d call an emotional leader. Neither was David Robinson back in those days. You could make an argument for Ginobili. Clinical is precisely the word I would use to describe the Spurs.

4. We’d be a .500 team with Artest.

Oh, please. If Artest is worth 10 wins ALL BY HIMSELF, why is Houston two games from missing the playoffs? Would this team be better on the floor with Artest, assuming he wasn’t suspended or in jail? Sure. But it isn’t worth having a guy like that around on a rebuilding team.

5. What is heart? Its not emotion? Its not steely determination to WIN?

Emotion is displayed. Garnett displays emotion. Duncan does not. They’re both determined to win. Emotion is NOT determination.

6. You’re too often a long-winded blusterer who ’don’t know shit’.

This is completely unnecessary. Backing up your OPINIONS with insults makes YOU look bad, not KFan.

Shut up and Coach

by Carl on Jan 18, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

4. We’d be a .500 team with Artest.
Oh, please. If Artest is worth 10 wins ALL BY HIMSELF, why is Houston two games from missing the playoffs? Would this team be better on the floor with Artest, assuming he wasn’t suspended or in jail? Sure. But it isn’t worth having a guy like that around on a rebuilding team.

I should clarify – that’s 10 wins in a half season. The team is 10-31 and the contention is that they would be 20-21 with Artest. So that would actually be a 20 win improvement over the course of a season. I’m not sure this team could win 40 games with LeBron James added to it.

Shut up and Coach

by Carl on Jan 18, 2009 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know about that

Brad plays differently when others are competing. In a sense, the franchise expected Brad to set the tempo for this group, and from what I’ve seen, Brad is expecting everyone else to do it for him. Almost ironic, but the way it goes. Sooner the Brad Baby is out the door, the better.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 18, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Lttg is an idiot

I wouldn’t want it any other way, as he clearly has a poor grasp of basketball. I wouldn’t buy AIDS from lttg if it was all the rage.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 18, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

If healthy, yes

I believe we’d be about .500 with Artest.

My frustration with Pook is that everytime I say ‘emotional leader’ he throws ‘chest thumping’ at me. Not to mention that he hunts down all my comments to disagree just to disagree, often contradicting hmself from day to day, week to week.

Ginobli is the emotional leader that makes SA go – Parker is pretty fired up as well, its a matter of degree, they do it without the ‘chest thumping’ I never called for.

Tell me who in our starters plays like they’re fired up to win every night?

And yes, it was late and I couldn’t sleep which was driving me a little nuts, so my apologies for rising to the bait Pookey constantly dangles.

So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,

Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 19, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't say chest thumping

I made a sarcastic comment about building a bonfire, and several other comments simply calling you an idiot, which you are.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 19, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

You throw plenty of bait out there, lttg.

But hell, what do I know. I throw as much crap out there as anyone. :)

Yes, I hate when there’s fighting and I’m not involved.

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

by otis29 on Jan 19, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL Otis

Don’t we all.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 19, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

You might want to go back up and reread the comments.
My frustration with Pook is that everytime I say ‘emotional leader’ he throws ‘chest thumping’ at me.

Don’t think he said that.

The reason I “throw” chest thumping at you is because the guys you mention as “fire guys” namely Artest and Garnet are “chest thumpers”. You also just recently changed to “emotional leader” before it was “fire”. “Fire” is very open to interpretation. If I misinterpreted your meaning, sorry.

Desire to win and heart are completely separate from emotional expression. You may have both, but one is not required to have the other.

I’m sorry, but I disagree with you. I believe the Spurs’ leader is Duncan. His desire and heart are what drives that team. He’s willing to do whatever is necessary to help the team win. If that means taking a back seat with regards to his personal stats? No problem, and that’s one of many reasons that set Duncan at least one level above Artest.

Artest talks a good game, but when push comes to shove, being “the man” is more important to him than winning, IMO.

Regarding our current team? I believe Martin, Cisco, Hawes and JT all have the desire to win that I would want players on my team to have. Can any of them inspire others to elevate their games? Time will tell.

I do believe that Miller, K9, and Salmons lack the drive and team 1st attitude that I’d like to see.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jan 19, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

You will get nowhere

With that rational, well thought out and reasonable approach

by batso on Jan 19, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Hawes and Cisco

are fine secondary emotional leaders. We need someone for them to follow.

I used Artest because we had him and he IS one of those guys, a crazier version than I would make my first choice – but one of those guys…..

I’d remind you that in Artest games played we were over .500, with, I’d argue, fewer weapons than we have this year (though not a lot – young and inexperienced).

And if it was you who kept throwing the ‘chest thumping’ at me – then DAMN YOU! :) And my apologies to Pook on that point.

So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,

Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 19, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Big deal

a 500 team doesn’t get you anywhere anyway. Look at the Golden State Warriors last season, and the lower half of the West playoff bracket. One of those teams will miss the playoffs. I’m glad the Kings aren’t in that kind of position.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 20, 2009 3:10 AM PST up reply actions  

We'll have to agree to disagree

Artest missed 25 games last season and he’s missed 11 so far this year and he’s currently out with an ankle and is again taking the most shots on the team and shooting under 38%. If it were me, I’d pass it to Yao and focus on defense and taking the open shots created by teams doubling Yao.

I will agree we’d be better with Artest, but that’s been our problem over the last 4-5 seasons. We’ve been too good to rebuild, but not good enough to mean anything. I’m glad we’re not going through another year of mediocrity.

Total suckitude leading to a top draft pick >>> mediocrity any day and twice on Tuesdays.

And I totally disagree with your lack of belief in Kevin and JT as leaders. I think they will be just fine. It’s only been Kevin’s team for half a season and I’ve seen improvement lately. I’m willing to give him a shot at it, before writing him off.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jan 20, 2009 5:08 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Other than Kevin's poor choice of words after the Magic game

I’m not really sure I have that much of a bone to pick with Kevin, other than the obvious stuff, which doesn’t mention what Sam wrote for the Sunday grades, that his ankle is still bothering him.

Kevin has not had much of a go of it so far, and it’s way too early to write him off as the guy who isn’t the leader of a team, especially when he had such a difficult ankle problem that kept him out of games.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 20, 2009 6:19 AM PST up reply actions  

For those interested

UCLA is playing Ariz St. right now on ESPN.

Featuring James Hardin for Ariz and Jrue Holiday for UCLA, both considere to be top five picks.

So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,

Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Jan 17, 2009 1:27 PM PST reply actions  

I don't have any stats

But the flip side of your argument is probably true as well: the Kings probably shoot too many long twos, often a force job to beat the clock, and don’t get as many effective shots as they need to be competitive. That’s improving, primarily because Salmons is doing a lot better job of penetrating and then finding the open man. I hope that continues.

The other thing on the offensive end is we have no fearless gunner a la Jason Terry or Jamal Crawford, to name a couple of lesser lights, who can both create decent shots and make a decent percentage of those. That’s really important when the clock winds down. Kmart seems to be pulling up and creating some outside shots that he would usually pass up, and I think he needs to do more of that.

The defense is not great, is poor in fact generally, but a lot of that is effort. When the Kings bring the effort, as they do in stretches, they can play decent D.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 17, 2009 2:09 PM PST reply actions  

Yep

re: two many long twos on offense.

by Tom Ziller on Jan 17, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

For us it's not just long 2's

Game after game I look at the stat, and no matter who we play against we’re outscored in the paint. I guess you could say that’s because we settle for the long 2’s, but I look at it as we just don’t have a low post presense. We just can’t rely on a high post offense and expect to get anything but a majority of long shots.

The Bucks and Warriors don’t have major low post players. So, you’d think that they’d be prime candidates for a high post offense like the Princeton, but they don’t. And, both teams scored more points in the paint then we did with our 7 ft front liners. It’s time to move into the 21st Century. We have the bodies to get in low and battle. It’s time to move Brad off the team or to the PF. It’s time to move JT & Spencer in low. It’s time to move forward and stop looking at what we did in the past.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom

by HighTops on Jan 17, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a decent point about the gunner

But, finding a guy who can jack shots up is also easily fixable when the other stuff is in place.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 17, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Outside gunners are easier to find

And, if we were’nt always helping the bigs or playing zone to hide our weak perimeter defenders, we could defend the 3pt shooters.

At some point we need our players to start playing better man defense, or we need to start replacing them. And, that includes Martin.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom

by HighTops on Jan 17, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

The problem with outside gunners is that they often would rather take a bad shot themselves than pass the ball to

a teammate with a better look. Maggette is getting booed in Oracle and if you read GSoM or the east bay papers that cover the dubs you’ll see that both Magette and Crawford are almost universally reviled for thier gunner tendencies and their lack of ball movement ad rebounds although Magette did grab a bunch of boards last night.

"We are in the business of kicking butt and business is very, very good." - Charles Barkley

by Bluejohn on Jan 17, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember in the Dubs game

Crawford took about 10 bailout jumpers in the 4th and three overtimes that had a 20% chance of going in. Not the kind of guy I want on the Kings.

smell the ashes

by iamstern'skippah! on Jan 17, 2009 3:20 PM PST reply actions  

What's funny

is he made a lot of that crap.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 17, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

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