I Am So Sick of Kevin Martin
by Tom Ziller on Jan 27, 2009 7:46 PM PST
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PrintI mean, against one of the two best defenses in the league, where do you get off scoring (a team-high) 35 points on 17 FGAs, with (a team-high) seven rebounds, (a team-high) seven assists, (a team-high) four steals, and a block? (Sure, the FGAs and turnovers [three] were team highs too. Whatever.)
All I'm saying is that Kevin Martin was basically in-freaking-credible, and this is the type of game we should point to whenever someone on TV or in a magazine or on a blog or in a typo-ridden FanPost tells us Kevin Martin is not good enough to be a major player on a great team. Martin drilled every single Cavalier who tried to guard him. He could have scored 50, but any time one of his bigs had a mismatch Kevin found them. He hit Jason Thompson, Brad Miller and Spencer Hawes. He hit his guardly friends, too. He didn't get called for traveling once. He hit the defensive glass, he played the lanes ... he played active defense (although Sasha Pavlovic blew by him a few times).
And he did it all on 1.5 legs. That ankle still isn't right; you can tell every so often in transition. He won't make that excuse -- he's refused to shed some blame onto the bone bruise. But Sam Amick has noted a few times in detail that it continues to be a problem. And again, you see it every once in a while.
So yeah, ta' hell with Kevin Martin. Who needs that guy?
More thoughts ...
* Thompson had a masterpiece, if you ignore the two defensive three-seconds calls and only two defensive rebounds in 26 minutes. That latter note is a bit too much to ignore ... so yeah, not quite a masterpiece. But his defense (save one blown cover of Anderson Varejao) was remarkable at times. Ditto Spencer Hawes, who actually had a completely flawless game, so long as you ignore the three rebounds in 19 minutes. Hawes rotated better than he ever has, and played his tail off in the lane as well.
But the thing that gets Shock the gold star: he anchored the zone. That was rookie Jason Thompson yelling from the pivot, calling out the defensive scheme and calling out picks and waving his arms and pushing the hell out of his mark. If Mo Williams had played only average, this would have been a good defensive effort, which for the Kings would have made it a stunning defensive performance. But Mo Williams didn't exactly play average (none of those 43 points were cheap).
* The ball movement, man. That ball movement was ridiculously good. The Kings shot .500, but they missed a bunch of wide open looks. The team probably had open looks 70% of their possessions ... against a great defense. Very encouraging. I don't know if that's the Pete Carril magic slipping in; whatever it is: bottle it, clone it, drink it every day. Most points scored against the Cavs all season.
* It's amazing how John Salmons got hit with a technical for yelping one or two words after an iffy call, while LeBron James, Anderson Varejao, Ben Wallace and Tarence Freaking Kinsey can berate officials with no penalty. Simply amazing.
* Did anyone find it odd that down seven with 30 seconds left the Kings didn't foul to try to fluke out the game? Williams is a terrific FT shooter, and LeBron went 13-15 this game. But it's worth a shot, right? You wonder if it has something to do with a personal courtesy between Natt and his old boss/friend Mike Brown. There was very little chance the Kings could have caught up, but you almost always see a team foul there.
* Hello KINGSDOTCOM: please compile a video of all those Salmons baskets over LeBron in the fourth quarter, set it to something real nice (The Reverend? Marvin? Megadeth?), put it on YouTube and send the link to every GM in the league. If you need help getting the e-mail address list, try Kevin Pricthard ... err, I mean "Larry Miller."
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No moral victories...
But I must say this game was exciting. I was actually disappointed we lost, which, when you come from an expectation level near absolute zero, is saying something.
Good points on Kevin, Ziller. I’ve gotten sick of listening to Peaches heap the blame on him these last few weeks because he played “average”. Tonight reminds us all of the incredible talent we have at the two.
Section214 is my hero. Good shakes!
Kevin's an All-Star
He just doesn’t get recognition because of the team he’s on. Which isn’t his fault. Give this team a couple years and hopefully a few good moves by Petrie and co. and we’ll be back in business. This team is not as bad as their record. How many games have we lost by a margin of 3 or fewer? I’m pretty sure we lead the league in that category.
Pretty good game from Kevin and the crew, Cavs, Williams especially, were just too good.
Probably the only thing I can nitpick the Kings for is their atrocious rebounding this game. But thats Natt’s fault, playing small ball all the damn time. JT IN THE FOURTH PLEASE!
I'm a big KM guy
I wear his jersey, the whole bit. But until he shows he can lead this team to some wins, no matter what, he’s Robin, not Batman (to steal a phrase).
Unfortunately, everyone on this team old enough to shave are Robin as well. As for the kids, time will tell – but I’m ready for some grownup time – soon.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 27, 2009 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
TZ
You are the man. I thought about writing something much worse, much more evil, much more rude, much more awful, much more me. You just did it much better, and with at least a million times more class. Thank You.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
KM23
He’s a chucker
The American economy is in bad shape. I am still an American.
The Kings Franchise is in bad shape. I am still a Kings fan.
Bleed purple. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
But remember
He has no fire.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Cavs are complainers
When they came to Portland, after a timeout was called 5 Cavs walked over and literally surrounded a referee and were all talking at once. They had a circle formed around him for at least 30 seconds before they went to their bench.
"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez
What upper echelon team isn't?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
So are you saying that the Cavs "Circled a Jerk"?
Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.
by jjham15 on Jan 27, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd for hilarity
And because you don’t post enough these days.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Sorry man, I've been feeling the Kings burn.
On another note- I did put my money where my mouth has been and purchased two games from Section- we met at Star Bucks just to spite your Seattle Finest ass. If your in town I’ll take you to a game- just send me an e-mail.
Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.
It was nice to meet and hang out for a few.
We have our own little world here and its nice to put a face to all the hilarious jokes and insightful writing.
Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.
Glad you guys got to meet up
And you’re right about the “whole little world”.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
I made a point in the game thread
StR is my Kings family, because my actual family doesn’t enough to understand why Kenny Natt’s rotations are so infuriating. For example.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
doesn't know enough^
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
My wife listens and nods but she isn't really taking in my rants.
And she doesn’t know what it means to propose a CoolCat trade or how funny “That’s what she said” can be even after the 1000th time.
Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.
No doubt
No StR = no relief. Or StR = Rolaids
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
If you really wanted to do it 206 style JJ
You woulda gone to a Tully’s.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Wonder what Salmons could have said to earn a T?
“Sorry for fouling him Jesus, that wasn’t right”
“Hey ref, wanna see pictures of my kids?”
“Wow, Cleveland has some great fans”
“This LeBron guy is good, huh?”
www.mancancook.net
by vfettke on Jan 27, 2009 8:38 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
"Geez, ref - you almost suck as much as us."
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
by section214 on Jan 27, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Actually
I was on my way home from work during the first quarter so I was istening to Gary Gerould on the radio. He was calling the game right next to that play and he got reeeeeaaaaalllllllly upset because all Salmons said was: “Come on man, that’s a foul.” I’m not joking you. Gary even mentioned that there was no cursing at all in case people thought he was paraphrasing for the radio. Again, the guy was really pissed and youcould sense it so I trust him. He loves this team as much as we do.
"Let's stop arguing and get together and agree on who really is the problem: PEACHES" - HighTops
by eduardo_m7 on Jan 27, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
When you been around the cow pasture for nearly 25 years
It does piss you off.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Maybe thats why he got a tech
He was talking to Violet Palmer.
"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 27, 2009 9:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Salmons was calle don a previous play when he didn't touch LaBron.
When he picked up the next foul he yelled at the official “Now that was a foul!”. Obviously Salmons had been chirping before the second call was made.
Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.
Yep.
You can hear it pretty clearly on the comcast broadcast as well. I was cleaning the kitchen, heard johnny say that then heard the whistle blow. But really, we all know John’s a hot head.
If yr not happy with the results, lower yr expectations.
Maybe he keeps a small bible in his shorts and beat the ref with it off camera.
Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.
by jjham15 on Jan 27, 2009 9:51 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Martin is an OK two option
I must’ve struck a nerve with my frustrated, “Sick of Martin” post.
Or maybe you’re also sick of watching Martin use his speed to run into opposing players and flick the ball in the air (certainly one of the most exciting strategies in sport). He does like to live at the line.
But OK, I’ll admit I was harsh. Sure, Martin is a decent second option on pretty much any other team. And of course, Martin is a valued shooter. It’s just sad that our centerpiece can’t play defense, pass, dribble, or lead the team simply because he can’t physically impose his will on a game. He can shoot lights out, but he’s just too easy to knock over or dislodge. My Blazer friends call him “creampuff.” There’s a reason he can’t stop people or finish at the rim unless he’s wide open.
And please, all apologists out there, quit using the ankle excuse. I hate to break it to you, but with a toothpick like Martin, you better get used to nagging injuries. Especially if he is going to be the focal point.
The only thing allowing me to keep watching this year of misery (besides that I’ve only missed a handful of games since I first saw them live in ’95—before the glory years) is that if we keep sinking, we might have a chance for Griffin.
Still, I say anyone is expendable except Thompson, Hawes, Cisco, Brown, and OK, Martin. All else should be moved so this rebuilding can actually start.
If you pollsters think Rubio “I might be the next Toni Kukoc” is the right choice over Griffin, that monster on the boards (19 the other night), that young Boozer in the making, you obviously have never played a game of basketball in your life.
Take Blake!
(Sorry for any typos. I spent a lot of time fretting over grammerd for this.)
Yeah, it’s all about the hate. That’s why I’ve wasted 200 bucks on NBA league pass every year since 2004 and stay up until 2 am on the East Coast to watch them lose in overtime.
I just freakin’ HATE the Kings and all their stat-spewing, hardcore, ’livin the thug/mall life" Sacto fans.
How’s this for love: I’m still rooting for Martin to get muscular—but then he probably loses some speed.
And if it hasn’t happened yet …
by VirginiaBlue on Jan 27, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
Boo Hoo stop your crying
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
You should have fretted over paragraphs
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
7 assists=can't pass/4 steals and 1 block= can't play D
The American economy is in bad shape. I am still an American.
The Kings Franchise is in bad shape. I am still a Kings fan.
Bleed purple. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
Remember
All he does is score. And every team needs a #1 scorer.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
My bad
I sure am forgetful tonight
The American economy is in bad shape. I am still an American.
The Kings Franchise is in bad shape. I am still a Kings fan.
Bleed purple. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
Just remember
As long as he has fire, is 7’3", plays great interior defense and blocks shots, Kevin Martin will be absolutely incredible. Okay?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
And is athletic
Don’t forget athletic.
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
by dalt99 on Jan 27, 2009 9:53 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You both are getting a rec for this
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
I just don't think he has the fire to be 7'3"
"You know how when you go to a restaurant, they call out your name? Like "Dufrain, party of two... Dufrain, party of two." And if no one answers, they'll say it again "Dufrain, party of two, Dufrain, party of two." But then if no one answers, they'll just move on the next name: "Bush, party of three." What happened to the Dufrains? They're missing, and no one cares. Right now, they're tied up in the trunk of someone's car, with duct tape over their mouths, and they're hungry. That's a double whammy! They should say "Bush, search party of three." "You can eat once you've found the Dufrains."
-Hedberg
by kangsfan on Jan 27, 2009 9:54 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Actually
I’m skeptical of Thabeet’s guts so far. Still just watching closely. It sure would be nice not to give up all those layups though – wouldn’t it?
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 27, 2009 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
It would also be nice to be 38-10
It would also be nice to get my dick sucked by the whole cheerleading squad of the Kings. It would be nice to have a perpetual beer tap of Pacifico for me whenever I wanted. It would be nice if I had a million dollars. It would be nice if I had Mel Brooks talent for comedy. It would be nice if I could ever stop writings points on the “It would be nice” tip.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
I like Thabeet- I have even advocated him in the last two drafts but...
I don’t think he is good enough for a top 1-5 pick. If the Kings were drafting at 10 again I would love to have him but he’s probably going to get drafted higher than he should.
Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.
Lot of games left to go in college yet
lets wait and see.
Or maybe Conley will come save the franchise, the next Stve Nash! and we don’t have to worry?
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 27, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
Is this David Sedaris? The wit is blinding.
A lot of people in the NBA can score.
Not everyone is fast enough to run into each person that guards them though, and not everyone tries to draw a foul on every shot.
Unfortunately for Kings, you have to play at least some defense to win.
by VirginiaBlue on Jan 27, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
Who the hell is David Sedaris?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
A writer
like you claim to be.
Very funny actually – nice reference Troll.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 27, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
I claim to be a writer?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Douche.
That’s all I got right now.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jan 27, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
It's not that you were harsh
It’s that you were wrong.
Here’s a word of advice – when you throw out a fanpost with the intention of riling up a whole group of people at a site, have the stones to hang around for a little give and take.
Otherwise, the “troll” tag gets applied…and you’ll have a hard time getting rid of it.
Gunga Galunga
It would never happen
but don’t you think the perfect offensive compliment to LeBron James would be Kevin Martin? I get chills thinking about what an offense like that would be capable of.
Disclaimer: comments may have been made under the influence of alcohol. If the Kings start winning, this will probably change.
Don't say that
Please for the love of all that is crazy cowpoke passion, do not say that.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
He's a great #1 scoring option - no doubt
Every good team needs a scorer.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
What a hard hitting comment Walter Kronkite
Maybe next, you can say that the effort level and trying to instill a team attitude with his boards & assist’s exists. You make captain obvious want to puke on himself and eat his own shit.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Kings fans have long signatures
"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 28, 2009 12:12 AM PST up reply actions
If this team played
like it was interested more nights than not, well
You might have a point.
Other than the one on top of you head that is.
He’s a great scorer, I’ve never said anything other than he can always be te #1 shooting option on my team. Once this team has a leader who drives them to wins, won’t give up, won’t lay down, you’ll……..
What am I talking about? You? You’ll just deny you ever said so.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
Mr. Off Topic Here
Spencer Hawes is listed as a Power Forward on ESPN.com? Really? PF? Not even FC?
Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)
ESPN equals
Ecosteric sarcastic punitive ninnies.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Can't find that reply button?
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 27, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
and 'ecosteric' isn't a word I recognize.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 27, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
typos are a sign of the devil
"You know how when you go to a restaurant, they call out your name? Like "Dufrain, party of two... Dufrain, party of two." And if no one answers, they'll say it again "Dufrain, party of two, Dufrain, party of two." But then if no one answers, they'll just move on the next name: "Bush, party of three." What happened to the Dufrains? They're missing, and no one cares. Right now, they're tied up in the trunk of someone's car, with duct tape over their mouths, and they're hungry. That's a double whammy! They should say "Bush, search party of three." "You can eat once you've found the Dufrains."
-Hedberg
And I've got the pitchfork to prove it
But ecosteric is not a word. So in that sense, he is correct. Got find a better word. Economical maybe.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
I wish you lived by that word
literally.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 27, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
Which word?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
economical
It can relate to verbal usage as well.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 27, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
baby, babe let’s get together
honey, honey me and you,
and do the things, oh, do the things
that we like to do.
oh, do a little dance, make a little love,
get down tonight, get down tonight,
do a little dance, make a little love,
get down tonight, get down tonight
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Sports Center referred to us as 'Easy Pickins' tonight
just to add that to the list that was posted by – I forget who – a while back.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
We're a joke right now to the league and media
just like KM said.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 27, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
Famous last words
The Kings will do more than just survive — they will thrive without Ron-Ron. It’s not a knock on him — he will do wonders for Houston’s spring confidence, no doubt. But the Kings are in a place where creating the right learning environment for these wide-eyed does in much more important than two steals or five assists from an unfocused, unhappy Ron-Ron. And this all neglects the real on-court positivity an Artest subtraction offers. Salmons becomes a hero, Martin becomes a 28-ppg scorer, Mikki Moore gets dibs on all in-game screamery. Plus, Bobby Jackson in the locker room is the polar opposite of Ron Artest in the locker room. Wins for everybody.
July 2008
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 27, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
Who said that?
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 27, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
Pookey will tell you
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 27, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
apparently not
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 27, 2009 11:34 PM PST up reply actions
Tz said it
And since you’re too lazy to properly attribute what you quoted, I’ll do it for you out of respect to other people, since you’re too stupid and arrogant to do part of the work you should do in making your point. You both should start a dumbshit academy. You’ll have plenty of pupils in no time.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
It's always nice
to be lectured by a true moron on proper posting ettiquette.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 29, 2009 6:53 AM PST up reply actions
Grow up
And I won’t have to.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Too bad
most of your 15,000-plus posts here are just as inane. Filler and bandwidth killer.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 29, 2009 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
Prove it and I'll go away & not come back
Until then, live with it.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
I'll make this double entendre for you
If you get TZ & Section on board with banning me, I won’t bother to come back. It will be a waste of time. Go for it sport. If I get banned, I go onto something else. Life is too short to worry about some lame asshole who spends his time spreading crap about shit that really is just that: shit.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Really?
Only you can turn a “Krvin Martin played well” thread in to a “I wanna blow Ron Artest” argument. Proof that something can be amazing and pathetic at the same time. Way to keep singing that same song, cheers.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jan 27, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
"You know how when you go to a restaurant, they call out your name? Like "Dufrain, party of two... Dufrain, party of two." And if no one answers, they'll say it again "Dufrain, party of two, Dufrain, party of two." But then if no one answers, they'll just move on the next name: "Bush, party of three." What happened to the Dufrains? They're missing, and no one cares. Right now, they're tied up in the trunk of someone's car, with duct tape over their mouths, and they're hungry. That's a double whammy! They should say "Bush, search party of three." "You can eat once you've found the Dufrains."
-Hedberg
Yep
That “on-court positivity” we are experiencing this season is terrific.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 28, 2009 4:28 AM PST up reply actions
Kmart
Just as good as Roy, right, TZ?
Kevin’s a great scorer and he’s playing hurt. But he’s not so hot in the areas of passing, ballhandling, rebounding and defending. I know, I know, those areas aren’t that important and I’m just being a nitpicker.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 27, 2009 10:01 PM PST reply actions
Were you & lttg separated at birth?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
I'm keeping mine
until someone, somehow this team plays like its got some balls for at least a few games in a row.
The offense was clinically efficient tonight – that shows the talent. The fact that they can’t get it up to play like that against lesser teams shows me a lot more though.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 27, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
Everything he did
and showed in his stat line shows the potential he has yet to reach, as far as rebounding, passing, and defending. These are definitely the things he needs to continue to work on in the summer to get better
by kingsfan300 on Jan 27, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, I Love the Guy
don’t get me wrong. I wear his jersey and actually go to games, more than most can say here. I’m still spending my cash. My show my loyalty with my wallet.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 27, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
Great
Wake me up when he gets there.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 27, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
Not long enough
"You know how when you go to a restaurant, they call out your name? Like "Dufrain, party of two... Dufrain, party of two." And if no one answers, they'll say it again "Dufrain, party of two, Dufrain, party of two." But then if no one answers, they'll just move on the next name: "Bush, party of three." What happened to the Dufrains? They're missing, and no one cares. Right now, they're tied up in the trunk of someone's car, with duct tape over their mouths, and they're hungry. That's a double whammy! They should say "Bush, search party of three." "You can eat once you've found the Dufrains."
-Hedberg
We'll wake you up
But sadly, Artest still won’t be on the team. At least you can dream about him until then.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jan 27, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
Actually let's not wake him up no matter what happens
"Let's stop arguing and get together and agree on who really is the problem: PEACHES" - HighTops
by eduardo_m7 on Jan 28, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I sure do
But I don’t deceive myself into believing they are something they’re not.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 28, 2009 4:24 AM PST up reply actions
Were you
and Mickey Rourke separated at birth?
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by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 27, 2009 10:05 PM PST reply actions
If only he was that lucky
No.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
He did get to bang a young Kim Basinger in 9 1/2 weeks- life could be worse.
Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.
More than Pooh can dream of
Well actually, I’m sure he dreams and does uh – other things.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 27, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry Kev/TZ this thread is officially destroyed
"You know how when you go to a restaurant, they call out your name? Like "Dufrain, party of two... Dufrain, party of two." And if no one answers, they'll say it again "Dufrain, party of two, Dufrain, party of two." But then if no one answers, they'll just move on the next name: "Bush, party of three." What happened to the Dufrains? They're missing, and no one cares. Right now, they're tied up in the trunk of someone's car, with duct tape over their mouths, and they're hungry. That's a double whammy! They should say "Bush, search party of three." "You can eat once you've found the Dufrains."
-Hedberg
Slightly derailed.
Some love, some hate, some hate and I said something about “circled a Jerk”- my bad.
Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.
We're so tired of turning on the Kings
and then about-facing, we’re starting to eat each other (figuratively)….
Its been a loooooong season.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 27, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
Don't apologize for comic gold
"You know how when you go to a restaurant, they call out your name? Like "Dufrain, party of two... Dufrain, party of two." And if no one answers, they'll say it again "Dufrain, party of two, Dufrain, party of two." But then if no one answers, they'll just move on the next name: "Bush, party of three." What happened to the Dufrains? They're missing, and no one cares. Right now, they're tied up in the trunk of someone's car, with duct tape over their mouths, and they're hungry. That's a double whammy! They should say "Bush, search party of three." "You can eat once you've found the Dufrains."
-Hedberg
You're right, its the only laughter we're getting right now
we need to add a regular ’Joke’s of the Week’ post or something
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 27, 2009 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
Or a comedic comment of the week window on the front page.
Section 214: we’re waiting
"You know how when you go to a restaurant, they call out your name? Like "Dufrain, party of two... Dufrain, party of two." And if no one answers, they'll say it again "Dufrain, party of two, Dufrain, party of two." But then if no one answers, they'll just move on the next name: "Bush, party of three." What happened to the Dufrains? They're missing, and no one cares. Right now, they're tied up in the trunk of someone's car, with duct tape over their mouths, and they're hungry. That's a double whammy! They should say "Bush, search party of three." "You can eat once you've found the Dufrains."
-Hedberg
Kirk Douglas is looking for you
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Tough role
Maybe the Maloofs will appoint him GM based on that.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 28, 2009 4:29 AM PST up reply actions
Great game by Kevin
I hope it means he’s getting close to being 100% healthy. I’m happy to see the assists and rebounds, hope he makes it a habit.
Regarding 90% of the posts above this one: you all should be ashamed of yourselves.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
Problem with Kevin
Is these well rounded games are still the exception, not the rule. He is an amazing, efficient offensive performer in this league. But if he wants to jump to elite status, he needs to add to his game.
I’m not sure he will ever be an above average rebounder, so really it’s going to be about his passing/court vision, becoming a better ballhandler, and DEFENSE.
Gunga Galunga
Yep
I want to see 25-5-5 from him. If he can average that, I think that makes him an all-star.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jan 28, 2009 4:45 AM PST up reply actions
Funny how that was a critical comment that made sense
Look at the one’s above. I felt I was too busy getting in a hate war with the “2 Morons” to continue any further. I was sleepy, and felt it was just a waste of time.
But, I agree with you & Otis. I’m very happy about the way Kevin played. (I thought the defense in the 2nd qtr was fabulous.) There were good things throughout this game.
Yet, only a few people even talked about it.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
That's a more realistic assessment
especially compared to …
I mean, against one of the two best defenses in the league, where do you get off scoring (a team-high) 35 points on 17 FGAs, with (a team-high) seven rebounds, (a team-high) seven assists, (a team-high) four steals, and a block? (Sure, the FGAs and turnovers [three] were team highs too. Whatever.)
All I’m saying is that Kevin Martin was basically in-freaking-credible, and this is the type of game we should point to whenever someone on TV or in a magazine or on a blog or in a typo-ridden FanPost tells us Kevin Martin is not good enough to be a major player on a great team.
… after he got 10 assists, 15 rebounds, 3 steals, 0 blocks and had 14 turnovers (6 in one game) in the previous five games, all losses.
The Kings are 2-9 since Kevin has returned.
You can measure all the stats you want, but if he’s an All-Star, start delivering wins and stop making bonehead plays like that pass that Hickson stole to basically seal the loss last night. All-Stars don’t make bonehead plays like that on a repeated basis. All-Stars don’t make turnovers on in-bounds passes in crunch time. All-Stars lead their team to victory and don’t play on 10-38 teams.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 28, 2009 4:50 AM PST up reply actions
Problem is
You are quoting TZ, then making the argument that Kevin isn’t an All-Star. Where did TZ imply he was deserving of All-Star status?
Let me put it this way – yes, I agree that Kevin is probably overvalued a bit by the locals here, as well as the sitemaster. But really, your consistently negative posts about Kevin imply that you undervalue him just as badly. There is no doubt that Kevin is an elite offensive player in this league. It’s the rest of his game that needs some work.
So you might want to read what TZ wrote again – I don’t see anything erroneous there. And quit putting words in his mouth.
Gunga Galunga
A Few TZ Samplings on Kevin
Brandon Roy and Kevin Martin are of equal quality …
Nov. 25, 2008
The would-be All-Star guard isn’t himself.
Nov. 4, 2008
His All-Star ’08-09 campaign is just a formality.
Oct. 29, 2008
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 28, 2009 5:19 AM PST up reply actions
Additionally
What does anything TZ said in 2008 relevant to the discussion going on in this thread? You quote a portion of his post from above, then start debating something he said last year.
To be honest, I don’t agree with TZ’s quotes (if they are indeed in the context you perceive). But if Kevin had been healthy all year, I might feel differently.
Gunga Galunga
Stupid is as stupid do Otis
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Quite honestly
Lttg and CC are showing how little time they’ve spent as Kings fans. This is just another day to me. Yeah, the team sucks, but last night was fun as a game thread. Until lttg & CC start participating in those too. They just ruin everything for me now. All I do is scream at one of them, or make some sarcastic comment instead. What a waste of time they both are. You have to give them credit though: they get their share of response’s.
Unfortunately, part of my being a Kings fan on this site is learning something, and while I generally learn, or just laugh, from many of you, I can’t say the same of CC & lttg. Oh well, Rome wasn’t built in a day.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Once again
I go to games, even in this terrible year – and not cheap seats either. I prove my loyalty with my wallet.
Show me that that effort last night wasn’t just one more occasional abberation and I’ll be encouraged.
As of now, it just makes me angry when decide to play like that against an elite team….
And still not much D.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 28, 2009 9:26 AM PST up reply actions
What you said had no purpose or point
Talking about Kevin as a scorer, and every team needs a #1 scorer is a dumb statement. That says nothing. Every team every year has a #1 scorer! So what does that tell me? You don’t know how to properly express what you meant which is probably: Kevin could be the #1 scorer on a good team in the NBA. Big friggin deal. This was about Kevin’s total game, and the way he attempted to go about it. It was obvious if you watched the game, which I did, but did you watch the game? Probably did. When you say things the way you did, it makes me believe you aren’t capable of a thinking process. A-B is not the only process thought. Once you start getting to F, and real topics, we can start talking. Until then, get smarter. The end.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Additionally
… this is the type of game we should point to whenever someone on TV or in a magazine or on a blog or in a typo-ridden FanPost tells us Kevin Martin is not good enough to be a major player on a great team.
Just an assumption, but most “major players on a great team” are All-Stars.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 28, 2009 5:38 AM PST up reply actions
But Martin is a major player on a bad team and those types of players don't get to go to All-Star games.
IMO Martin could be a major player on a great team- he is also shown that he can be a major player on one of the worst teams in the league. Your assumption is correct but you failed to make your point.
Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.
Yeah ...
His non-All Star status has nothing to do with his injury, which kept him out 22 games, as well as the team’s overall malaise. And yes, he can play better. And yes, some of the team’s problem can be hung on his shoulders. But you’re being ridiculous for the purpose of notoriety.
Seriously, tell me the value of coming in here and crowing that Martin’s not an All-Star and that the team is in a bad way.
THANK YOU
I am so glad to see you come to the thread and defend your point. Too often you take the high road.
Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal
by 27freethrows on Jan 28, 2009 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
My posts about Kevin
aren’t consistently negative. Do a search if you know how, and you will see I have often sung his praises. I’m just a little more realistic than the fauners here.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 28, 2009 5:22 AM PST up reply actions
You're a contrarian
I get that, more power to you. But that doesn’t change the fact that you’re the turd in the StR punchbowl. Congrats!
Gunga Galunga
There you go, Otis
If you can’t win the arguments on its merits, just call the guy a turd. That’s you in a nutshell.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 28, 2009 5:40 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks man
I appreciate you being around to throw water on any optimism that crops up!
Gunga Galunga
Search results fot coolcatreportdotcom kevin martin
Excerpts from last 5 posts(Link to search):
after he got 10 assists, 15 rebounds, 3 steals, 0 blocks and had 14 turnovers (6 in one game) in the previous five games, all losses.
MINUS:
* For the most part, he hasn’t shown the ability to be an effective scorer in crunch time. As The Man, maybe this develops over time.
* He’s a poor ball handler (lots of turnovers).
* He’s not a very good passer.
* He’s not a good rebounder.
* He’s a terrible defender.
Petrie has never really had to draft his way to success, and you could argue that the team’s recent slide is largely the result of developing Kevin Martin and other young players that he probably would have packaged in trades in an earlier era.
Kevin Martin comes back into the game with 10:18 left and the score tied 76-76. He gets one shot in the first six minutes, which he misses.
Martin averaged 5.2 points in the fourth quarter after averaging 6.4 points per quarter in the first three quarters.
Looks consistent to me. The only posts without a negative about Martin is a negative post about Petrie.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jan 28, 2009 5:37 AM PST up reply actions
Obviously
I’ve made more than five posts about Kevin Martin, and if I wanted to twist it like you did, I could put together five posts that have me singing his praises as much as TZ ever could.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 28, 2009 5:41 AM PST up reply actions
OMG
and if I wanted to twist it like you did
You are so ufcking hilarious.
by Tom Ziller on Jan 28, 2009 7:00 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
And
Everything you just posted is accurate. Want to debate any of those points? Seriously? Do you want to make the case for Kevin Martin in any other area but scoring? Let’s get real.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 28, 2009 5:43 AM PST up reply actions
He just said your posts are consistently negative
and they are. Even if you say something nice, there’s always a nugget of negativity in there some where. That’s the point.
I didn’t twist anything, just pulled the negative bits out of your last 5 posts. Want 5 more?
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jan 28, 2009 5:52 AM PST up reply actions
Guys, seriously
Can I get any love for Spencer Hawes? It seems like he’s lost a lot of his former attention. He’s two years younger than JT!
Donte? Donte'! Donté?!?!
'spect da 'xtra E'
Love me some Block-n-Hawes!
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jan 28, 2009 5:56 AM PST up reply actions
Hard to love the 7 foot republican goof IW
I’ll give you that.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Hard not to love^
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Out of place basketball discussion
This whole thread got sidetracked and turned into a massive clusterf*ck, so this argument may go unnoticed. But I’m sorry TZ, I must agree with one thing you said.
But Mo Williams didn’t exactly play average (none of those 43 points were cheap).
Now, I will completely agree with you that Mo Williams elevated his play, and had a great game. But I will not go so far as to say that he earned 43 points last night. I saw several instances where Beno could not keep up, Williams would drive the lane, but the big would fail to collapse. A center and two forwards watching Mo Williams make a layup qualifies as “cheap” in my book.
My view of Martin’s defense was also tainted by the defensive assignments. It wasn’t for the whole game, but at no point should Kevin Martin be assigned to guard LeBron. A stick cannot guard a freight train.
Aside from those two points, nice breakdown. It helped put the loss into perspective.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
It certainly didn't help things with Mo
But I agreed with Speed guarding Bron Bron. That didn’t make much sense, but at some point, with this team, fighting marshmellow’s with fire is the only way you can go.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Martins' dad in the stands
Maybe all his games should be in Ohio or have his dad travel with the team.
As much as I love Kev
Teams see us on the schedule and know they have a night off. They play to our level for half to three quarters and then step it up enough to beat us. Kevin reaps the rewards of the other teams lazy D. When teams play solid D against us Martin has a tough night. Kevin absolutely needs someone else on this team to attract some attention. If we can get said player(s) Kevin could easily put up these numbers every night.
"You know how when you go to a restaurant, they call out your name? Like "Dufrain, party of two... Dufrain, party of two." And if no one answers, they'll say it again "Dufrain, party of two, Dufrain, party of two." But then if no one answers, they'll just move on the next name: "Bush, party of three." What happened to the Dufrains? They're missing, and no one cares. Right now, they're tied up in the trunk of someone's car, with duct tape over their mouths, and they're hungry. That's a double whammy! They should say "Bush, search party of three." "You can eat once you've found the Dufrains."
-Hedberg
i hate to agree...
…but this may be the case. there is obviously no way to get inside the other team’s head, but part of me believe this rings true on some level.
that being said, i still love the effort our guys give on both ends, and that martin had a great game (which can hopefully act as a catalyst for some rhythm moving forward). i like how our offense was doing well, regardless of whether it was against top-flight effort. confidence through good execution is something we can definitely have more of.
100 % agreed
"You know how when you go to a restaurant, they call out your name? Like "Dufrain, party of two... Dufrain, party of two." And if no one answers, they'll say it again "Dufrain, party of two, Dufrain, party of two." But then if no one answers, they'll just move on the next name: "Bush, party of three." What happened to the Dufrains? They're missing, and no one cares. Right now, they're tied up in the trunk of someone's car, with duct tape over their mouths, and they're hungry. That's a double whammy! They should say "Bush, search party of three." "You can eat once you've found the Dufrains."
-Hedberg
I want to see the effort every night
They have to play the games anyway don’t they?
But I disagree on the ‘both ends of the court’ part. They were good on offense but bad bad on perimeter D (obviously) and the rebounding was pathetic. It was just a prideful ‘stat’ sheet game until they play better on the defensive end.
Sorry, I don’t like it either.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 28, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
Offense
can be said to be about showing off your own skills.
Defense can be said to be a commitment to beating the other team.
So imitate the action of the tiger!
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage.
- lend the eye a terrible aspect,
Now set the teeth....and teach them how to war.
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Jan 28, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
not sure what this means....
Posted on Thorpes ESPN chat today:
Paul (Phoenix): Coach Thorpe, one day I hope to coach players in the league like you do. Not with a team, but as my own business. If you don’t mind giving away a secret, what’s yours? I’ve studied your story, and the list of guys who you have helped make the league that were not considered NBA players blows me away.
David Thorpe: Try this-Kevin Martin had an awful game in Toronto on Sunday. His team had the day off on Monday. He texted me after the game to tell me he’ll be working out at 8am sharp Monday morning. He has his best game of the year the next night in Cleveland. Got it?
by longtimelistenerfirsttimecaller on Jan 28, 2009 11:19 AM PST reply actions
What it means
The more players devote themselves to practicing and giving effort, the better they become.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
One point I can clearly concede
The Kings are better with Kevin Martin than without:
- With Kevin, 6-19.
- Without Kevin, 4-18.
- Overall, 10-37.
He is a real difference maker.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 29, 2009 9:12 PM PST reply actions
What a hard hitting comment that was
You should be working for CBS13. Maybe get yourself some pretty lipstick and base powder to put on your face.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
The Cisco Jinx
Damn, I just ran the same numbers on Cisco:
- With Cisco, 5-25.
- Without Cisco, 5-12.
Double Damn.
"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 29, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
Too bad we don't still have Artest
"You know how when you go to a restaurant, they call out your name? Like "Dufrain, party of two... Dufrain, party of two." And if no one answers, they'll say it again "Dufrain, party of two, Dufrain, party of two." But then if no one answers, they'll just move on the next name: "Bush, party of three." What happened to the Dufrains? They're missing, and no one cares. Right now, they're tied up in the trunk of someone's car, with duct tape over their mouths, and they're hungry. That's a double whammy! They should say "Bush, search party of three." "You can eat once you've found the Dufrains."
-Hedberg
What is the over under on another Hummer windshield being broken if he did stay?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
No doubt
He could be shooting 37% and missing 13 out of 47 games for us. Instead, he’s dragging down a playoff contending team. He’s still the same Ron-Ron, gotta love him:
Rockets forward Ron Artest said on Tuesday he might sit out until the All-Star break. Later in the day he said he might not.
I miss that kind of thing sooo much. It brings a tear to my eye.
Gunga Galunga
Kings wins this season:
With Artest – 0
Without Artest – 10.
We’re 10 games better without Artest, than with him.
Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott
by Kfan in Korea on Jan 30, 2009 4:57 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Was waiting for that... LOL
"You know how when you go to a restaurant, they call out your name? Like "Dufrain, party of two... Dufrain, party of two." And if no one answers, they'll say it again "Dufrain, party of two, Dufrain, party of two." But then if no one answers, they'll just move on the next name: "Bush, party of three." What happened to the Dufrains? They're missing, and no one cares. Right now, they're tied up in the trunk of someone's car, with duct tape over their mouths, and they're hungry. That's a double whammy! They should say "Bush, search party of three." "You can eat once you've found the Dufrains."
-Hedberg
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