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King's owners...Team direction= the doghouse

         Let's face some painfull facts;  Sacramento, which once boasted a division leading  team and deeply talented  player and coaching staff, has had a complete and drastic makeover to that of  the Futility Kings of the NBA.

Why?

Well we now have some new owners....the Maloofs.  There from vegas....they like things loud,bright and flashy.......however,they just don't seem to care about winning..

We once had one  of, if  not the best  coaches in the league with Rick Adelman...but apparently he was too quietly demeanored and not glitzy  or  flashy enough for the vegas Maloofs....so gone......(btw with Houston now....a winning team)

We once boasted talent both starting and off the bench enough to seal the deal down the stretch......we traded most of that away..except for the one we should have traded......in a typical Maloof goof we've made him our highest paid King......the sluggish , and  so overpaid Brad Miller....13 million next year. What we could have done with that....!

The Maloof's want a new big Arena....and all the parking revenue they can get thier money grubbing hands on...or i fear they will move the team.....which is by no coincidence i believe is the real reason we've seen the decline of the once great Kings......GREED...baby!

I remember fondly the days of yore,  of the past owners and management....remember them well my friends  ...the new owners have come to town....and look....in just three years what a wonderfull direction we're going......going......gone. 

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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I mean no disrespect

But seriously, this is 99% crap.

I agree that Adelman shouldn’t have been fired, but are you under the impression that if no trades had been made, that Chris Webber would still be receiving laser-like passes from Doug Christie? I’d like it if Vlade hadn’t gotten old, too, but that’s not how the world works.

We lost a tough one tonight, but we’d have lost by 60 if the starting five from 2002 had started for the Kings this evening. They’re gone. Let it go. Dallas is next, but just for those of us for whom time only moves forward. Potential glory lays ahead; there is none worth anything in the past.

No, I’m not drinking.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Jan 10, 2009 1:45 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

99% crap

And 1% ellipses.

Are we gonna live together? Together are we gonna live?

by otis29 on Jan 10, 2009 6:45 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I think...

you meant…100%…ellipses… …

by rbiegler on Jan 10, 2009 9:12 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

How about

This was 110% crap.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2009 6:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wish that we had the owners that had this team when we were good

Oh, wait…

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by section214 on Jan 10, 2009 7:25 AM PST reply actions   3 recs

The sad reality of the NBA

Is that teams HAVE to get worse in order to rebuild. Period.

by misterbrister on Jan 10, 2009 11:10 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

yes, you build with trades and FAs

you rebuild with draft picks and with lesser of above.

by betweentheeyes on Jan 10, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Or you supplement talent with trades & FA's

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No comment

all has been said about this post…

"You keep on using that word
I do not think it mean what you think it means"

by lietothegirls on Jan 10, 2009 11:47 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

im dumber for having read this,

or is it more dumb? I probably would’ve known five minutes ago.

by passionforPERPS on Jan 10, 2009 1:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

99% crap?

The primary points I got out of this were:

  • The once proud Kings are the futility Kings. Hard to argue with that.
  • Adelman wasn’tlashy enough for the Maloofs and now coaches a winning team in Houston. Hard to argue with that.
  • We once boasted talent both starting and off the bench enough to seal the deal down the stretch. Hard to argue with that.
  • Brad Miller is overpaid. Hard to argue with that.
  • The Kings might move to another city. Hard to argue with that.
  • The team is going in the wrong direction under the Maloofs. Hard to argue with that.

On the other hand, the writer is not very polished and uses too many ellipses. Great, nail him for style, but it’s hard to argue with the substance of the post.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 10, 2009 1:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe this is necessary

2002 – team good. 2009 – team bad
Writer asserts that this is entirely due to bad trades. Does anyone believe that, or that the Brad Miller deal was bad for the franchise? Seems to me that getting Miller cost us Hedo and Pollard, and if you believe that having Turk on this team instead of Miller would have us winning 65 games, I have an expiring contract in Florida I’d like to sell you.

I didn’t argue with the Adelman remark.

We had talent starting and on the bench good enough to seal the deal – Well, the only deal they ever sealed was a couple of Pacific Division titles. Is that the kind of crazy runaway success we’d have now, if only someone else owned the team? Great teams, but in the win-or-die culture we live in, they achieved nothing. Fun-to-watch, yeah. Hit free throws in Game 7? Not so much. I was there, dying inside.

Brad Miller is overpaid – Well, he wasn’t and now he is. Would someone please give me the date when he crossed that threshold? And would anyone like to guess the date when Martin will be ofiicially deemed overpaid by the Council of Never Ending Whiners?

The Kings may move – Tough to argue a wishy-washy assertion like that one. Vegas? Never. Anaheim? Unlikely. Seattle? Mathematically possible, sort of like the Clippers winning an NBA title. It might happen, sure. Place your bets.

A directional problem under the Maloofs – Again, it was all lollipops and butterflies right up until it wasn’t. I agree the team suffers when the Maloofs pretend to be basketball men, but if you believe the franchise is weaker than it was when they bought it, I have some land near the old railyard I’d like to sell you.

I have no love for the Maloofs, they sabotaged the arena deal purposely by being shamelessly greedy, and they appear to be largely classless. But the state of the team isn’t their fault, not Petrie’s fault, and not Miller’s fault. Free agents don’t want to come here, the players we had when we were winning got old and broken down, and that’s the cycle. If the team doesn’t seem vastly improved in two years, I think you can beef legitimately. But as rebuilding has only really just begun, a lot of you are coming off like spoiled children who’ve grown tired of the shiny toy that became dull.

I would never say you aren’t great fans. But living in the past, and overstating the glory days is a waste of time. Things don’t stay the same, and they don’t get better all at once.

99 44/100% crap. Crap so pure, it floats.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen.

by andy sims on Jan 10, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The two faces of Fantasy Island
But the state of the team isn’t their fault, not Petrie’s fault, and not Miller’s fault. Free agents don’t want to come here, the players we had when we were winning got old and broken down, and that’s the cycle.

Some teams seem to do a better job of staying in contention. It’s not an inevitable cycle.

Of course, in Shangri-La, it’s never anybody’s fault but the folks you want to blame. Those criticisms (Beno, Natt, pick your poison) are apparently justified, while everything else falls into the category of "whining."

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 10, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Which teams to whom you would be referring?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2009 6:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously...

Does saying the sky is blue and subsequently bitching about it count as a fucking point? When did it become o.k. to allow this blog to descend into the inane inanity of KHTK call in conversation? As to your point Pookie the answers will inevitably be some combination of San Antonio, Dallas and theoretically Phoenix, answers that can be disputed and refuted simply by referencing the italicized quote in all of coolcat’s posts.

by rbiegler on Jan 10, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You could certainly add

the Lakers, Utah, Detroit, the Rockets and even the recent Nets to that discussion.

Now, it’s not like these teams have never had a losing season; it’s just that none of them imploded to the current status of the Kings when they did have a bad year.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 11, 2009 8:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

None of those teams got players for bargain basement deals either

Chris Webber was traded at a reduced value. So was Bibby in a sense, even though the cap relief was necessary.

When was Phoenix in contention prior to Nash arriving the 2nd time, and Charles Barkley still on the team?

The Rockets have never gotten out of the 1st round with Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady. Is that a success story?

The San Antonio Spurs got the best player available in the draft since Kobe Bryant in 1996. Unfortunately, Tim Duncan was drafted in 1997.

Detroit deserves credit, but Detroit is not perfect. No team is. And Detroit struggled badly being a fringe playoff team with just Grant Hill on the roster in the 90’s. Detroit’s ascension to the top of the East came in part because there wasn’t anyone else but the Celtics (01) and the Nets (01-04) to challenge them. Oh yes, the Kings have no competition out west.

Utah got Deron Williams in the draft, and was lucky the Blazers fell in love with Martell Webster. They originally had the 3rd pick in the draft in 05.

Dallas is still hanging on, but at the bottom of the Western Conference. I’m not really sure the Kings need to emulate a franchise who has spent over 90 million dollars on their roster the last 2 seasons.

Did I miss anything here? (And my name is Pookey dammit. LOL)

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 11, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Champions don't grow on trees

Certainly the Rockets have a much better history than the Kings and they are a contending team now. Three losing seasons since1984-85, two championships and playing better than .600 ball this season — yeah, I think that computes to success, especially when the alternative is an 8-28 team working on its third straight losing season.

You’ll get a closer look tonight to see if you want to emulate the Mavs. I think they panicked in putting together the Kidd deal, but it’s tough to argue with their track record since they got Dirk. Hey, if you want criticize teams playing .600 ball, go for it.

Utah is a franchise you really have to admire, even though they have never won it all. ONE losing season since 1983-84, two trips to the finals, four other trips to the Western Conference finals, two Hall of Famers and a contending ballclub now.

Please, give me that type of failure. Let me be in the hunt ever year, and don’t turn the franchise into the laughingstock of the league.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 11, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

MIA
Did I miss anything here?

Outside of the Lakers and the Nets, not much.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 11, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Utah's failure

was massive enough to enable them the draft pick that netted them Deron Williams.

San Antonio’s failure was massive enough to enable them the draft pick that netted them Tim Duncan.

This will be the Kings’ first year to potentially land that type of pick.

It is as though some of our fan base appeared on the scene two and a half years ago, and completely missed the eight straight playoff appearances. Of course, we had different owners back then…

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Jan 11, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Utah

Actually it took them a rare poor season (first sub-.500 season in more than 20 years) and a trade to move up to get Deron Williams. Even at that, they won 26 games that year. We are pace to win 18 games after winning in the 30s for two straight years. But let’s not details get in the way of a good argument.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 11, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So

26 wins = an OK season. Then this is our first crappy season in a long, long time.

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by section214 on Jan 11, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No

I called 26 wins “a rare poor season.” You twistedt hat into “an OK season.” Your words, not mine.

But 26 wins beats 18 wins, and a winning record prior to that beats two sub-.500 seasons that we are coming off of, and the rest of their track record is superior to ours.

Don’t get me wrong: eight playoff seasons in a row is pretty good. But it’s time to stop living on the fumes of the past.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 11, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But

the roster still has some of the residue of the last run. We were not as fortunate as Utah, who had Malone and Stockton expire at roughly the same time, ridding them of their large contracts.

This team has to be dis-assembled in order to be re-assembled. And that is what is happening right now. Bibby is gone, Artest is gone, Miller is being shopped, Thomas is…well…Thomas.

I would love to know what could have been done to put this team on a faster winning track. Not acquiring Artest, for example, would have given us (perhaps) the opportunity to trade Peja for youth or a pick. Maybe we would be better today, but we would have been worse earlier. Remember, we 18-26 when we traded for Artest that year, and that was still under Adelman.

And I don’t mean to “twist” your words. In fact, I admire the fact that you can come to the defense of this post, a post that calls owners that have been here ten years “new,” refers to Adelman as perhaps the best coach in the league, says that we have traded all of our good players while retaining all of our bad players while offering no proof or alternative, blamed the decline on the greed of ownership (ignoring the fact that we are currently over the salary cap), and yearns for the old ownership, an ownership that provided us with an eight year run of sub-30 win seasons (nine overall) and one playoff appearance (the first year that the Kings were here) in 13 years.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Jan 11, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Twister
And I don’t mean to "twist" your words.

No, of course, you’d never stoop that low :)

I “came to the defense” against a post that said it was 99-100% crap. Though there were a lot of mistakes (that you have so generously rooted out), there was also some truth to the post, which I tried to point out. So it wasn’t 99% crap.

Just to review, in MY words (feel free to twist):

* The once proud Kings are the futility Kings. Hard to argue with that.
* Adelman wasn’tlashy enough for the Maloofs and now coaches a winning team in Houston. Hard to argue with that.
* We once boasted talent both starting and off the bench enough to seal the deal down the stretch. Hard to argue with that.
* Brad Miller is overpaid. Hard to argue with that.
* The Kings might move to another city. Hard to argue with that.
* The team is going in the wrong direction under the Maloofs. Hard to argue with that.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 11, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

OK

Agree with point #1.

Point # 2 is your opinion. My opinion is that while he was a solid coach, he could not deliver a championship with championship caliber talent. True, it is not his fault that the Kings could not hit a free throw in game #7 or that C-Webb blew out his knee. But I sure would have liked to have seen what Phil Jackson could have done with that team and those circumstances. In the end, it was Adelman’s public decree that it was his decision to make as to whether or not he continued in Sacramento that proved to be his death blow.

Agree with #3 – if that’s all that was said there, which it was not.

Agree with #4, even if he is not going to make $13 million next year.

Agree with #5, but would also note that ARCO Arena is an obsolete venue, and it will come down to business and supply and demand. We have less history and we are smaller than Seattle. If it can happen to them, it can happen to us.

I would prefer to say that the team is an a re-building mode under the Maloofs. Certainly it has been a disappointing couple of seasons, but they have been exponentially more successful as owners of the Kings than their predecessors.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Jan 11, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I Can't Argue with Much

It’s way too early to write off the Kings and their future, but I think how they got here and speculation/conjecture about where they are headed is fair game.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 11, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed 100%

I just like the talk of how we got here to be a little more specific than the generalizations that were in the original post.

Using the traded players as an example, if we’re going to talk about how well Bibby is doing in Atlanta, let’s also remember that we would be paying an additional $20 million or so in salary and luxury tax were he still here (or the equally likely scenario that we would not have extended Martin). Or that we’d be 14-23 or so if we had not traded Artest, but we would not have Greene or Houston’s pick, and we’d probably be headed for another 10-12 draft pick in the next draft.

No one has to accuse me of being a Petrie lover, because I am the first one to admit it. But as much as I love the guy, I have a distaste for blaming the Maloof’s for every decision gone wrong. If GP is that poweless than he is not the GM that I think he is. He is either at least partially responsible for the E-Muss and Theus hirings, or he is a paper tiger.

For the past 10+ years, the Kings have been a better organization thanks to the Maloof’s and Petrie. I look forward to the next incarnation with optimism and anticipation.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Jan 11, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

It's simple where the Maloof's blame lies

Ron Artest, and the coaching searches. Everything else has to do with Petrie.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 11, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Petrie's balls

or lack thereof.

Seems like once upon a time he stood up to Portland management over the firing of Rick Adelman, but he caved like a cheap hooker the second time he faced that dilemma. The result was Musselman, easily the worst Kings decision over the past 14 years.

Hopefully he is regrowing a pair.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 12, 2009 4:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That & Bob Whitsitt had control of the Blazers by the time Petrie left

It wasn’t just about Adelman.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 12, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

14-23? Sure, whatever
Or that we’d be 14-23 or so if we had not traded Artest, but we would not have Greene or Houston’s pick, and we’d probably be headed for another 10-12 draft pick in the next draft.

You could just as plausibly argue that Theus would still be the coach and they’d be a game or two above .500 based on having the same lineup together (plus Thompson) for a full season and their trajectory from the previous season to last. Maybe Kevin doesn’t rush back only to miss a bunch more games.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 12, 2009 7:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You don't like

Petrie, Martin, Miller, Cisco, Hawes, Beno, or Salmons. In fact the only King I’ve seen you say positive things about was Artest, and he’s not a King any more and was probably the most non-King King I can remember being on the team. So why are you a Kings fan again? I think you’d make a great Lakers fan.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jan 12, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You're wrong

as usual.

I never said I didn’t like Petrie, but I don’t worship the ground he walks on like some here do, either. I am interested in reviewing how we got where we are, both on the way up and on the way down, and am especially interesting in figuring out if he’s the guy who can take us near the top again.

Hawes had a great game against the Heat and has played well at times. I like his spunk, but am unsure how he’ll turn out.

I like Martin, but question his toughness and am not alone in that. I like Cisco, but he’s been inconsistent and tentative this year. I’m not sure why, but maybe he is still a bit injured. I love the way he competed in the Miami game despite getting the shit beat out of him.

Miller has worn out his welcome, and you’re right, I am not much of a Salmons fan, although he plays very well at times.

Beno? Christ, you have to be kidding me if you don’t think Beno’s play this year merits criticism. And I am hardly alone in dishing it out. But naturally I hope he plays better. I hope they all play better.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 12, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I fail to see how your points prove

this team needs Artest. It seems to be what you’re saying, without you quite saying it. You wanted Artest to stick around; I clearly didn’t. So the question is, was it worth it for the Kings to trade Artest? I say hell yes. You say, well, i’m not sure what you’re saying to be honest. You seem to contradict yourself so often it’s difficult, impossible even, to extract what your clear view is.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 13, 2009 2:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't say that

I didn’t say the team needed Artest. I was just countering Section’s 14-23 prognostication if Artest was still on the team.

Artest is gone. I didn’t bring him up.

I think it’s pretty obvious some folks seriously lowballed the impact he had on making the Kings a competitive if not great team. But most, myself included, are not satisfied with that. We are where we are, and now it’s more about how do we get where we want to go, not where we would be if Artest was still around.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 13, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay then CC

Now that’s clear, any ideas?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 14, 2009 4:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You respond like a dick

as usual, but it is nice to actually see you say something positive about anything to do with this team, since that is not usually the case.

Ball movement ... is like jogging for most people: They do it occasionally, and it makes them happy. Then they go back to not doing it. - Henry Abbott

by Kfan in Korea on Jan 13, 2009 4:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"You respond like a dick"

If CC is still bothering you after four hours, please consult a physician.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Jan 13, 2009 8:15 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I damn near flagged your comment Section cuz I was laughing so hard

Classic shit mayne.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 13, 2009 8:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Substance?

He obviously has no clue that the Maloofs owned the team when they went to the WCF.

It’s hard to argue with stupid, but damn if I’m not doing it right now.

Are we gonna live together? Together are we gonna live?

by otis29 on Jan 10, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You know my opinion of the Maloof's

Unfortunately, it’s not as simple as people want to make it out to be. None of this stuff is.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The two faces of Fantasy Island
But the state of the team isn’t their fault, not Petrie’s fault, and not Miller’s fault. Free agents don’t want to come here, the players we had when we were winning got old and broken down, and that’s the cycle./


Some teams seem to do a better job of staying in contention. It’s not an inevitable cycle.

Of course, in Shangri-La, it’s never anybody’s fault but the folks you want to blame. Those criticisms (Beno, Natt, pick your poison) are apparently justified, while everything else falls into the category of “whining.”

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 10, 2009 4:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Where's Ziller?

Why can’t we shut this one down? This is one of the more pathetic Fanpost’s I’ve ever seen on here. We used to be good? The Maloofs are from Vegas and want a new arena? Adelman isn’t coach anymore? B52 is overpaid? Groundbreaking stuff there. Was Oliver Miller also overweight when he played for us?

However, I will admit that I didn’t realize the Maloofs just came along a few years ago. I could’ve swore I saw them celebrating on the floor after Game 5 against the Lakers.

The guy who did the post about the black jersey’s got ridiculed for poor grammar, but this one is just as bad. And at least the black jersey thing was something new on here and not the same old arguements of how we should rebuild this team.

I’m sorry, I just expect more from this wonderful website. I’m disappointed not only in the fanpost but that there was actually an arguement about it. I expect more out of my fellow Kings fans/experts.

by rockrichmond2 on Jan 13, 2009 2:20 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

"You keep on using that word
I do not think it mean what you think it means"

by lietothegirls on Jan 13, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Look at the bright side

Even the most horrible fanpost in here starts intelligent and educated discussion

by eduardo_m7 on Jan 13, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Way to tell em ed!

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 13, 2009 6:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

touché

I can’t argue with that.

by rockrichmond2 on Jan 13, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

dude

who do u think the owners where back in our glory days? lol… the maloofs are great owners, they love the team and they love the city. just because there impatient doesnt mean there bad owners. period.

Stang PRIDE!!!!!!!!!

by Robby1987 on Jan 16, 2009 3:48 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It's not a trait of quality ownership either

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 16, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

but they have done more good for this team than bad. they made a few bad moves like goin with ron artest against pietries judgment but still for the most part its been solid

Stang PRIDE!!!!!!!!!

by Robby1987 on Jan 19, 2009 6:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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