Preview: Kings vs Lakers, Preseason Game 3
by Tom Ziller on Oct 15, 2009 2:30 PM PDT
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-- Ricky Ricardo, I Love Lucy
THE OPPONENT
The Lakers lost 24 times last year. The NBA season for a Finals team is roughly 7-1/2 months long. I cannot count past 27, so let us estimate the length of the Lakers' season as 225 days. This means that the Lakers were undoubtedly losers on 10 percent of the days in their 2008-09 season. This means that every ninth day in L.A., Kobe Bryant and Lamar Odom walked around knowing that they absolutely, unquestionably had loserdom within them. There is no questioning that many times in the course of last year, Kobe Bryant was a loser. A big ol' weak stomached L.O.S.E.R.
This exercise cannot be replicated for the Sacramento Kings, because of an enchantment performed last Winter Solstice by Mikki Moore.
THE KEY BATTLE
The <Your Company Here!> Key Battle will be Spencer Hawes vs. Andrew Bynum. Hawes will be starting for the first time this preseason, coming off a minor ankle injury. Bynum has been beasting up the early preseason schedule, having scored more points (43) than any other Laker. Hawes defended Pau Gasol passably last season, but Bynum is a different type of center -- more Oden than Pau. Hawes's season won't be decided in any one game -- let alone preseason -- but every stop against bigger opponents does well to assuage fear.
While you'd never expect Kobe Bryant or Kevin Martin to relax for a minute, and while Bynum and Hawes have each heard questions about their fire, there's more at stake in the paint.
MUSICAL INTERLUDE
"Los Angeles, I'm Yours" by The Decemberists.
A theme song for the Los Angeles Lakers, if I've ever heard one.
INTERESTING SIDESHOW
There is not an ounce more clarity in the Great Small Forward Derby of 2009 today than there was prior to either of last week's games against Portland. Paul Westphal has discussed a three-guard lineup which would involve Kevin Martin and Tyreke Evans sharing shooting guard and small forwards duties. Paul Westphal has dubbed Desmond Mason the starter for tonight. Paul Westphal has given dap to Omri Casspi. Francisco Garcia has suffered greatly for our sins.
And nothing has been made more clear. Other than that we now know El Flaco won't be the starting small forward on opening night.
Ron Artest is reportedly bringing his A-game in preseason, and Lamar Odom could very well want to take some post-wedding pre-nup negotiation frustration out on the opponents. So the deck is a tiny bit stacked against Mason. ENTER THE OMRI.
WILD GUESS OF THE EVENING
Biggest Las Vegas cheer of the night: Lanny Smith.
REAL TALK
Knowing that Martin will match up with Bryant in a completely meaningless game is really weird. And it's a complete lose-lose for Martin. If he scores 30, it means nothing because it's preseason. If he stinks, he got shut down by Kobe IN THE PRESEASON. Therefore, rule No. 1 of "weird Martin-Kobe preseason match-up": I will not discuss Martin or Kobe in the post-game recap at all tomorrow. No matter what. Martin could ride into warmups on a talking pygmy goat who says terrible things about Kobe's mother and I, Th. Ziller, Esq, will not write a word about it.
DETAILS
It's a 7PM game. It will be televised in Southern California. FB&G reports Gasol and Luke Walton are out; only Garcia will miss the game for Sacramento. The expected starting five for the Kings is Evans/Martin/Mason/Jason Thomspon/Hawes. I would expect Fisher/Bryant/Artest/Odom/Bynum for the Lakers. The game thread will be opened at 7 PM sharp.
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I'm excited for this game!
Lakers are broadcasting it on KCAL so this is the first time I get to see the 2009-10 Kings in action!!
Kind of off topic but quick question:
Do you think we’ll ever see a line-up of Evans-Martin-Greene-Thompson-Hawes? The 1 – 3 positions would create mismatches all day. It would be a fun thing to see in the preseason to get a feel of how that would work.
by UCIrvine kings fan on Oct 15, 2009 2:35 PM PDT reply actions
You and all of us UC Irvine
I’ll be watching it too. Hehe.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
No Greene
Not without showing that he has and can give more than he presently musters.
His seemingly lack of BB IQ on the court is really going to keep hurting him. He shoots way too many threes, and misses, that are not in the flow of the game and has not earned playing time.
If he isn’t careful he is going back to the D League.
Since when is going to the D-League a bad thing for a 28th overall pick in the draft?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
It isn't as good as playing in the NBA
Not passing judgement, but am sure Greene wants to play for the Kings, not the D-League.
Even though Greene has mentioned in the past that he wants to play
and if that means the D-League, than so be it. Donte Greene is what he is: A project with lots of upside and hardly any of it realized as of yet. Time: He has it. As does Shawes, JT, Omri, Easy Reke among others. Youth needs patience; have plenty of it Kemo Sabe.
D-League isn’t a failure. And, do I need to list the number of players who have spent time in the D-League and then made a solid/better contribution than anybody could realistically expect?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
"...do I need to list the number of players.."
No need to list the number of players. Please list the names of each of the players, along with their D-League stats and NBA stats. And then wash the dishes for me. Thanks, you’re a pal.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Oct 15, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm too lazy to do my own homework
And catch up, and do my dishes, and clean up my room. So good luck with getting me to do your dishes.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
That's okay
I’d imagine it’s pretty hard to do dishes whilst carrying a sword and shield anyways. I wouldn’t want you to break all of my whiskey glasses.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Oct 15, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
You forgot my special helmet
That means I’m “special”.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
There may not be many D-league success stories yet
but there will be. Its going to improve the level of skill at the NBA level and some guys who would’ve had a bad year or two and gone to europe – or back home – will be big stories.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
by lietothegirls on Oct 15, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
How much money you got?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
Good choice
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
I think it would be good
for him to play and he isn’t. If he can get more playing time in the D league and develop then that is good for everybody.
I posted what I did because I think he hopes to be ready for NBA time now and am thinking he needs more work.
D-League would probaly be good for him.
Well MBS
I think it’s more of a point that of course he wants to be in the NBA. Wouldn’t you love to play in the NBA too? I don’t really think that’s the question of what he ultimately wants at this point; do you think that’s the issue here?
I think the question here, as we all know, is what he does for this team right now that PW will find reliable. The rest of the pre-season should answer SOME of that question. Other than that, who knows?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
And let me add
I think part of this is a bit of a crock too. If the Kings insist on keeping Donte up at the NBA level to save money, I’ll be pissed.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
Saving money?
I don’t know anything about that. How would they be saving money by keeping him at the NBA level?
By not having to pay Kenny Thomas to go on road trips.
Or not pay Desmond Mason (which I don’t think will happen) at the end and when it’s all said & done.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
Let me make my position crystal clear (for those who haven't been able to decipher what it means yet)
I disagree with any decision that keeps Donte from going to the D-League if that’s what it takes to help him develop. Simply put, there are 2 reasons for Donte NOT to go that have nothing to do with him being an active part of the roster.
The first is financial. Every team is required to have a minimum of 13 players (the NBA across the board is supposed to have an average of 14 players per roster) on every roster. Right now, the Kings have 13 players guaranteed a spot, and Desmond Mason might be the 14th contract. What happens when you assign a D-League player is that he goes to the inactive list. (Cisco is already there, or will be, at the start of the season.) That means the Kings either put both Mason and Thomas on the active roster while Donte is down at the D-League, or they let Mason go for financial reasons.
The other reason, that isn’t nearly as complicated to explain, is simple: Geoff Petrie and Paul Westphal (along with everyone else) feel that the D-League won’t help Donte develop. Frankly, I’ve always been puzzled why the Kings have never embraced the D-League more.
Of those 2 reasons, the one I fear (mostly) is the second because of the history. I’m hoping that if the Kings do send Donte down to Reno, it’s more than 5 games this time.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
I'm not saying start him
But he’s got to get minutes some time with the “starters”, so maybe towards the end of the 1st quarter or even coming out of half time.
by UCIrvine kings fan on Oct 15, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll take this a step further
You either play him consistent minutes at this level, or send him to the D-League and tell him to improve on the things you’re asking him to do at the big club.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
by pookeyguru on Oct 15, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Totally agree
Donte needs consistency more than anything. If he’s not going to get consistant burn send him down to the D-League to get some. The talent level may be lower but real game situations are always better than just practicing and riding the pine.
Dip til I rip
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by Muff209 on Oct 15, 2009 4:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Precisely
Dip till U Rip bawse….
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
If you're doing that
Why not just call them the Fakers and wish them Luck?
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
Why am I paying for NBA TV/league pass when they can't show this game?
They deserve a gorilla face delivered by one Mr. Lorenzo Lamas for this failure.
Musical Interlude, Part II
Death Cab For Cutie – “Why You’d Want To Live Here”
“I’m in Los Angeles today…
The greyhounds keep coming
Dumping locusts into the street
Until the gutters overflow
And Los Angeles thinks,
‘I might explode someday soon.’…
It’s a lovely summer’s day
And I can almost see a skyline through a thickening shroud of egos.
(Is this the city of angels or demons?)…
And I can’t see why you’d want to live here…"
Don’t worry about not being able to see the game the game will be broadcasted on this website http://www.atdhe.net/index.html
Also if that site doesn’t work for you I’m pretty damn sure it will be on this website as well www.p2p4u.net I know all of us want to see this game and finally see how the team plays together especially against the punk azz lakers
by dj3ptspecialist44 on Oct 15, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Musical Interlude, Part III
Tool – Aenima (of course)
“Some say the end is near.
Some say we’ll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I’ll see you down in Arizona bay."
No disrespect,
but totally don’t believe you about the talking pygmy goat, especially if it has interesting bad things to say about the Bryant family.
Lower their expectations and rise to met them
Decemberists
Hey TZ, going to the Treasure Island Music Fest?
Prediction and request
PW will want to see how well Evans can do defending against Bryant. I predict we see this combination at some point.
I can’t watch it, but hope to hear from those of you who can…
Ooh that's going to be a real interesting match up.
There’s some video of KB working on his post moves, so it would be interesting to see how Evans could match up defending down low against someone his size.
by UCIrvine kings fan on Oct 15, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
oops.
There’s video of KB working on his post moves, so I imagine he’s going to be using them in game situations**
by UCIrvine kings fan on Oct 15, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
What if K-Mart scores 100 and holds Kobe to 0 points, eh Ziller?
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
Then I guess you're going to need the Game recap more than most.
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
If his situation comes true
I’d like to hear his Game recap.
"Sometimes the capriciousness of youth anesthetizes common sense." -Let Geoff's words guide our patience this season.
by AnotherStupidSN on Oct 15, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a title suggestoin
ElRonToro’s VERY NSFW Game Recap
Father of the "Natt this!" movement and Grandmaster of the "Never let AnotherStupidSN forget what a Sham-Wow is" Order.
They aren't showing this on league pass broadband?
I read that someone posted that earlier… WHY?!?
The NBA: "Where 27 free throws happens"
Because it doesnt' apply to Broadband
It’s for regular season only.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
Damn
So there’s the Kings game on the internet at 7.
Dodgers/Phillies on now.
FlashForward on at 7.
CSI on at 8.
Agh! Idk what to watch.
President of Marteeeny's Weeenies: The Official Fan Club for Martin Prado.
WE WANT PRADO AT 2B IN 2010!
i think i’ll watch the Kings on the internet, DVR the shows, and just check on the baseball game on occasion.
President of Marteeeny's Weeenies: The Official Fan Club for Martin Prado.
WE WANT PRADO AT 2B IN 2010!
by Scott Coleman on Oct 15, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh
And fuck the Dodgers. :)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
amen
go Braves
President of Marteeeny's Weeenies: The Official Fan Club for Martin Prado.
WE WANT PRADO AT 2B IN 2010!
by Scott Coleman on Oct 15, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Im watching them tonight
Because this is the only opportunity I’ll get to watch them. Everybody else isn’t broadcasting games.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
thats what i was thinkin.
just a question: in the regular season, are there usually free feeds of the Kings games?
President of Marteeeny's Weeenies: The Official Fan Club for Martin Prado.
WE WANT PRADO AT 2B IN 2010!
by Scott Coleman on Oct 15, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
It depends on the team
But, not always no. It’s not super reliable to expect that. (I did it part of the season,and ended up buying league pass in February. If that helps.)
If you can afford it, I’d buy Broadband knowing the restrictions of where you live. (Unless you’re in Japan. I don’t think you can buy it there, still.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
well I bought league pass last year
but after being disapointed night after night after night, I pretty much stopped watching the games. dont get me wrong, i love watching the Kings…as long as we’re not losing by 20 or blowing a 10 point lead with 3 minutes to go (it seemed like that’s all we did last year). with money being tight, im not sure if i’m gonna buy it or not. I might wait, like you suggested, and see how the season is going around the ASB.
President of Marteeeny's Weeenies: The Official Fan Club for Martin Prado.
WE WANT PRADO AT 2B IN 2010!
by Scott Coleman on Oct 15, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
If you expect this team to wow you every night
You’re going to be in for a long season regardless.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
i dont
but I at least wanna feel liek we’re improving and playing solid, fundemental basketball every night.
President of Marteeeny's Weeenies: The Official Fan Club for Martin Prado.
WE WANT PRADO AT 2B IN 2010!
by Scott Coleman on Oct 15, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Not to be a sycophant and hype up the NBA and do their sorry ass marketing for them...
….but unless you watch the team consistently how can you know that?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
In your situation
I’d seriously consider saving your money. We’re going to be bad, might as well start lowering your expectations now.
If being terrible with occasional flashes of progress is going to depress you, save your $$$.
Professional Hyperbole Slayer
But I agree with 4-3 here too
It’s not likely to be pretty, and that’s more true early than I think later in the season.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
DVR is my friend.
President of Marteeeny's Weeenies: The Official Fan Club for Martin Prado.
WE WANT PRADO AT 2B IN 2010!
by Scott Coleman on Oct 15, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Similar dilemma here too
But with a Phillies fan roommate and a Kings fan here, the rest of tonight’s schedule will have to wait.
Thomas and Mack is going to be littered with Laker fans. Grrr.
If the Warriors can beat the Lakers on a bad day then so can the Kings. I would love to see ’Reke get at least 5 assists today and less turnovers. Go Kings!
October 28th couldn't come soon enough.
What do you expect?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
Watching the Kings/Lakers game tonight
If you would like to watch the Kings/Lakers game tonight I found a like for a live stream so you can watch it online in decent quality. go to channelsurfing.net scroll all the way to the bottom and click on Sacramento at Lakers. Enjoy it’s free!
http://www.justin.tv/big_bad_16
Pretty good link of Kings/Lakers
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